Weekends Were a Mistake, Says Infosys Co-founder Narayana Murthy (theregister.com) 257
Infosys founder Narayana Murthy has tripled down on his previous statements that 70-hour work weeks are what's needed in India and revealed he also thinks weekends were a mistake. From a report: Speaking on Indian TV channel CNBC-TV18 at the Global Leadership Summit in Mumbai last week Murthy once again declared he did not "believe in work-life balance." "I have not changed my view; I will take this with me to my grave," he asserted .
The argument from Murthy, and like-minded colleagues he quotes, is that India is a poor country that has work to do improving itself. Work-life balance can wait. The Infosys founder held prime minister Narendra Modi and his cabinet up as an example of proper workaholics, claiming the PM toils for 100 hours a week, and suggested that not following suit demonstrates a lack of appreciation. "Frankly I was a little bit disappointed in 1986 when we moved from a six-day week to a five-day week," he added.
"I was not very happy with that. I think in this country, we have to work very hard because there is no substitute for hard work even if you're the most intelligent guy," he said to an appreciative audience and laughing news anchor Shereen Bhan. Murthy claimed he himself worked six and a half days a week until retirement, typically 14 hours and 10 minutes a day, clocking on at 6:20 AM before downing tools at 8:30 PM.
The argument from Murthy, and like-minded colleagues he quotes, is that India is a poor country that has work to do improving itself. Work-life balance can wait. The Infosys founder held prime minister Narendra Modi and his cabinet up as an example of proper workaholics, claiming the PM toils for 100 hours a week, and suggested that not following suit demonstrates a lack of appreciation. "Frankly I was a little bit disappointed in 1986 when we moved from a six-day week to a five-day week," he added.
"I was not very happy with that. I think in this country, we have to work very hard because there is no substitute for hard work even if you're the most intelligent guy," he said to an appreciative audience and laughing news anchor Shereen Bhan. Murthy claimed he himself worked six and a half days a week until retirement, typically 14 hours and 10 minutes a day, clocking on at 6:20 AM before downing tools at 8:30 PM.
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That and they slowly wrap their tentacles around those running the government and get what they want.
Re:Let me guess (Score:5, Insightful)
It's more like a bug in capitalism that has become the point for some people.
"Free markets" are about producers making production and pricing decision and consumers making purchase decisions. The point of capitalism, for Smith, was getting governments out of these particular decisions. But now we have "free market capitalist" politicians who want to use tariffs to favor domestic businesses and who are all for anticompetitive business practices Smith would have opposed.
Re: Let me guess (Score:3)
The original proponents of capitalism never conceived of how "big" markets would become and how much a factor size and barrier to entry would become. Much like the authors of the second amendment never imagines guns firing 5000 rounds per minute. Both created quite a mess.
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Slavers always were, and always will be. Most of the social problems in the world are caused by rich people inventing new forms of slavery.
Michael Che on SNL Weekend Update [youtube.com] last weekend:
Elon Musk's new Department of Government Efficiency posted a job listing saying that they are looking for people willing to work 80 plus hours a week for no money.
But you can't be surprised that the white African guy's first idea is slavery.
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Re:Let me guess (Score:5, Insightful)
You misunderstand the "work for no pay" tactic. It's not so you can collect bribes. It's the same reason the big banks have lengthy unpaid internships for all the positions that lead to upper management.
It ensures that the only people who will ever be involved in decision making are only from affluent families.
Living on a strict budget will cost about $50K per year in NYC. DC isn't far behind. For a 2 year internship, you'll need at least $100K in cash, right out of college. And they will work you 80 hour a week to guarantee you can't get outside income.
This allows people who have had every advantage for success to look back and determine that people who don't have money are clearly lazy, look how easy it was for them! Sure, they understand what the poor go through, because they had to live on ramen for a couple of weeks too (from Ippudo on the West side, of course, because they have a better sake selection then at Naruto), but anyone could do what they did.
They want to ensure the person in this position has no real need to take a bribe. They'll probably take them anyway, but they don't need to.
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The crazy part is that the 80+ hrs with no pay actually came straight from Musk [cbsnews.com].
Honestly, it probably would have been crazier if he hadn't said something like that...
Oh well, voters get the government they deserve. (paraphrasing someone famous)
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Most of the social problems in the world are caused by rich people inventing new forms of slavery.
My observation is that people that speak foolishly like Narayana Murthy[*] never mean to apply their insanity to themselves, but to visit the suffering unto others. The simple, but unworkable solution to that is to subject the originators of these suggestions to their own words, or, if one desires to be merciful, public beatings to discourage others of like minds.
* And most conservative "thinkers".
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"Convincing the everyman that they are enslaved because they are not paid fairly for their labor begs the first question, what is fair?"
Yes. What is fair? Is it fair that some have vast wealth, while others have nothing? That some must labor their entire lives only to die in penury, while others sup of the fat of the land until they vomit up the excess? What makes it fair? Are you claiming that the rich and the poor at some point in their lives had, statistically speaking, equal opportunity to achieve
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He' just angry that his stock price slipped from it's high a couple of years ago, so now he's gonna crack the whip....
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If you were ever against human rights violations and things like apartheid bothered you, you have to denounce modern India. I personally get nauseous thinking
Just the guy (Score:2)
I'd like to be my boss.
He will, indeed, take that to his grave (Score:5, Insightful)
Re: He will, indeed, take that to his grave (Score:2)
Yet he has a wife and two children. One wonders if he knows their faces...
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Two isn't enough.
Other famous industrialists have a baker's dozen kids with their distributed harem, and rarely see them, but at least that's R-selected.
To be K-selected and never see the kids is a terrible strategy.
Put "I worked a lot!" on your tombstone and be done with it.
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He's also overlooking whoever it was that did all the work to raise his kids, make sure he had a nice place to come home to, food on the table, clothes, etc. "100 hour-a-week career for me but not for thee".
It's not much of a gain for society if you just dump all the domestic work on your spouse, so they can't have a career. And not great for your kids if you both do that and leave the servants to raise them.
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> just work, work and work
https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]
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Honestly, it's just a neurodivergence, and folks with that particular one a) Can't imagine others have emotional needs, b) get tunnel vision and have obsessive behavior, and c) are very bad at leading other people as a result.
But the opinion he is spouting? It's just how his brain works. Leave the guy alone. I assure you that his family has adapted and probably love him and fit in with him. He isn't miserable. He's just not you.
People need to learn that brains are really diverse.
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That isn't the flex you think it is.
Re:He will, indeed, take that to his grave (Score:5, Insightful)
Bully for you. Working in the C-suite doesn't rate the same concerns as folks doing actual labor though.
If the majority of those millions of dollars you lifted for your son had ended up in the pockets of the folks who put in the actual work that created them, you probably wouldn't be looking at a population of people who have decided they'd rather do something that productive with their time.
Like not showing up to line your pockets.
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Bully for you. Working in the C-suite doesn't rate the same concerns as folks doing actual labor though.
If the majority of those millions of dollars you lifted for your son had ended up in the pockets of the folks who put in the actual work that created them, you probably wouldn't be looking at a population of people who have decided they'd rather do something that productive with their time.
Ah, you see, I've had a number of different jerbs. So your claim that I'm some C-Suite uber alles person isn't even wrong. Just shows your deep prejudice. I've labored a lot in my life.
I've been a pizza cook, a lifeguard, a member of a band, an electronic technician, and weirdly enough, a process chemist, photographer, video production from shooting to editing to final product, and computer support to the C-Suite, and a couple others - aside from my main job was as a researcher - much of that work not eve
Re: He will, indeed, take that to his grave (Score:3)
So, you know that laboring 80 hours a week as a food worker wonâ(TM)t get you there, you have to have some other thing.
Also, you know that the vast majority of well-adjusted people are not as driven as you, because they ARE well adjusted, have nothing to prove, and just want a nice existence. They want their confort.
You know they arenâ(TM)t like you, why argue with them? You want them to just want a little - you want them as workers, not competition.
I canâ(TM)t see someone with that much driv
what labor is (Score:5, Insightful)
I'm not trying to criticize you, but want to gently make you aware that your "labor" resume is quite privileged. From your perspective, those examples might define hard work, because it felt hard to you relative to whatever you're doing now. If you go talk to the people who poured the concrete for your driveway, laid the bricks for your sidewalk, or applied the roofing to your house, they can tell you about labor. I recommend you not ask them why they're not working as a process chemist, photographer, or pizza cook.
The lifeguard and pizza cook roles are limited to people who don't have the financial pressure of an adult with kids, rent, and a vehicle. The other jobs are exclusively available to candidates who came from a relatively privileged background. The laborer finishing concrete or laying bricks can work as hard as humanly possible, yet never be promoted to computer technician.
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Whoa homie - the guys pouring my sidewalk or driveway or imagine roofing - are respected by me. Don't confuse my resume with thinking they aren't. I actually chat with the manual laborers doing work around my place (and at my workplace)
What many don't understand is that the guys and gals doing this stuff are also interesting - indeed, if you treat them well, they go out of their way for you.
Like when a team of workers were digging to install a gas line for my house, they had this adorable little backh
Re: He will, indeed, take that to his grave (Score:3)
"Does my ending up in the C-suite offend you? Don't answer - I know it does. Or are you stuck in the concept that it is impossible to get ahead?"
By definition, only a small percentage can end up as an executive. So it is literally impossible for everyone to get that far ahead. You are talking like it isn't, which is the reason people hate people like you - they all do that. They all forget where they came from and what it took to get where they are, and/or they don't acknowledge the element of luck.
You de
Re:He will, indeed, take that to his grave (Score:5, Insightful)
Good grief. What the heck does your job at a pizza shop have to do with whether cancelling weekends for Indian day laborers is good economic policy? Working insane hours to make someone else rich is a bad life plan. Interpreting that as a statement about you personally sounds like something you should take up with a therapist.
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There's work and there's work.
Spending a lot of time AT work is not equal to actually working, and actually working or something can be done efficiently or badly.
Some people can achieve in 2 hours what others struggle to do in 10.
So... what you say means exactly zilch.
Re:He will, indeed, take that to his grave (Score:4, Insightful)
You had one son. Population stability is achieved at 2.1 children per individual. But for all your wealth and income that you're claiming, you didn't have enough to keep the long term interests of society continuing to exist.
Communist North Korea is at 1.6 fertility rate, but hyper-capitalist South Korea leads the world at 0.64 fertility rate. I wouldn't be making this critique against capitalism if fertility rates were positive, but they aren't. Parenting needs to be socialized and incentivized in order to still keep population stable, but that requires taxes from you to shift to people who can dedicate more time to raising children. A 32 hour work week frees up people's time to do other activities like parenting. A 60 hour work week leads to a societal extinction event. No rich person's opinion should matter if they don't figure out how to maintain population stability, but it really seems that the trick to keeping population stability is to have government policy that is counter to any rich person's motivations.
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People have different views and values, that is generally a good thing. Trying to force those values on others i
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I don't disagree with your conclusion but there are more important things than WLB in whether you wasted your life or feel like you lived your life well.
I worked a lot, but that is not my objection to how I lived in the past. My main objection is that I failed to understand my intrinsic worth and felt like I had to constantly prove that I was worthwhile by taking care of dependent women and helicoptering in to solve every problem for my children. All that effort bought me nothing - zilch. Because it was
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Meanwhile, I kind of feel sorry for people who think the path to success is working as little as possible. It really isn't a successful strategy,
Minimizing energy use vs resources obtained is actually a very successful survival strategy generally speaking.
The rest of your post is a combination bro-flex and whining about "kids these days".
Re:He will, indeed, take that to his grave (Score:5, Insightful)
Here's a little counterpoint. I worked reasonably hard in my various jobs. At age 32, I started a small software company that I sold 19 years later. I rarely worked more than 40 hours per week and certainly never expected my employees to put in more than a standard 8x5 week. Although I was theoretically on call all the time for emergency tech support, I can count the number of after-hours emergency incidents on one hand.
After I sold the company, I worked another 5 years and then I retired. I have enough money to last me, so why wold I bother busting my ass just to get more money? Life is too short.
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I fully support anyone competing with me to drop to 32 hours. I'll mop the floor with them.
In what way? You holding up money while they are living 1.5x the life you are? The issue here is that you've defined the boundary of how you will mop the floor with someone, and here's the thing: the people prioritising work life balance over whatever makes you tick don't give a flying fuck. The only thing you'll be mopping is your ego while the "loser" ignores you ... happily.
Re:He will, indeed, take that to his grave (Score:4, Insightful)
You didn't say how much you work, mostly just shit on other people.
But I sincerely doubt you worked 100 hours a week the majority of weeks (as the person being discussed claims), and even if you did, do you really think the entire population is capable of it?
I have known people that work that much quite frequently (with minimums of 50 hours), but it doesn't really leave much time for much else. I've personally worked 80+ weeks for a month plus and consider myself fairly fit, and was young at the time.
Even doing non physical work it left me pretty broken at the end of the month (the last two weeks were over 95 hours), and if I didn't have all of my meals catered, and had a house to maintain, I wouldn't have been able to do it.
I handle lack of sleep better than the average person, so I don't think it's a reasonable thing to recommend for everyone.
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Less work means happy right?
You're committing a combination of a fallacies, the just-world hypothesis, with three biases: survivorship bias, fundamental attribution error, and self-serving bias. Willpower, high IQ, and high stamina are biological traits. You lucked out on the genetic lottery for these, and that allowed you to have the extremes of energy necessary to do as you describe. That's the long tail of the distribution, likely at five standard deviations above the average. And, as is typical of such cases, you explain your luck
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Slacker (Score:4, Insightful)
"Murthy claimed he himself worked six and a half days a week until retirement, typically 14 hours and 10 minutes a day,"
What, he retired? Slacker.
How 'bout this. Staff multiple shifts so you can keep your offices open during the hours you want. And, pay your employees so they can afford to have a life outside of work.
Re:Slacker (Score:5, Insightful)
And realize like Henry Ford did that a healthy economy for your company includes a broad middle class with discretionary income and the time to spend and enjoy it.
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But let's have it without the corp-sponsored surveillance and monitoring of employee life outside of work.
"I will take this with me to my grave" (Score:5, Insightful)
I will take this with me to my grave
Make that an early grave.
Sorry I can't make his funeral, I have a meeting. (Score:4, Funny)
He better put his funeral in Outlook now if he wants anyone to attend.
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He's 78, past the current life expectancy for India, and far past the life expectancy for Indians when he was born.
One life to live (Score:5, Insightful)
You had no choice being born. Living requires effort to sustain it, and you didn't get any input into that bit of reality either.
But now that you're here, why wouldn't you try to maximize your enjoyment of the experience? Rather than toil away so someone else can take a cut of your output and live like a god... Why not drag that asshole out in the street and beat him to death, then go home and enjoy some family time knowing you just improved the world your children will grown up and inherit?
You have to do your part to be productive enough to support your society so long as it is doing its part to make your life better than if you were living in the paleolithic era. Everything after that should be about enjoying life without impairing anyone else's ability to do the same.
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Non violence is preferable, but it is also a way for those willing to resort to it to dominate you.
When the slaver declares he's coming for you, you can take care of business or accept your collar.
we need more UNIONS and lower full time hours with (Score:4, Insightful)
we need more UNIONS and lower full time hours with an X2 or more OT
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But you have the Musk fiefdoms, Amazon and Trader Joe's suing in court to abolish the National Labor Relations Board because they think its unconstitutional.
I think a better idea is emigration. Young people should consider leaving the United States. Vote with your feet when voting at the ballot box fails.
Eventually, they will try to stop emigration too. What do you think the border wall is for? The southern border wall is now going to get built. I wouldn't be surprised if they start considering a northern
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Although it varies a bit by state, labour unions are pretty powerful in India in general. That's why these guys can't institute slavery like they want to.
truck, train, etc drivers are not allowed to work (Score:2)
truck, train, etc drivers are not allowed to work hours like that.
Re:truck, train, etc drivers are not allowed to wo (Score:5, Insightful)
That's the point, working such long hours is not productive because the quality of your work suffers. When it comes to something like driving, that poor quality work can often result in deaths which is why it's not permitted.
In areas where there's no direct risk of anyone dying, you just get poor quality work.
Re: truck, train, etc drivers are not allowed to w (Score:3)
Right, you gotta work those extra 4 hours in the morning to fix all the stupid mistakes you made while exhausted during your extra 4 hours the previous night :)
Re:truck, train, etc drivers are not allowed to wo (Score:5, Insightful)
That's the point, working such long hours is not productive because the quality of your work suffers.
The worst bug I ever coded happened at 11:00pm on a Friday night at the end of a 70 hour work week.
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> Truck drivers can't uncrash. Programmers can revert checkins.
Tell that to the families of these people:
* https://www.theguardian.com/te... [theguardian.com]
* https://www.fierceelectronics.... [fierceelectronics.com]
* https://hackaday.com/2015/10/2... [hackaday.com]
Even if lives are not directly on the line:
* https://www.bbc.com/news/artic... [bbc.com]
* https://www.zdnet.com/home-and... [zdnet.com]
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
My point is that software is more and more involved with controlling life and death situations and somehow we want to give a free pass for poor workman
Re:truck, train, etc drivers are not allowed to wo (Score:5, Insightful)
A lathe, a press or a turn are deadly machines, if not treated with attention and focus.
Workaholic thinks everyone should be workaholics (Score:5, Interesting)
I know workaholics. They have been blessed/cursed to find a task which engages and consumes them fully. They are typically highly successful, in whatever field they are in. Their vocation is their avocation.
What they fail to realize is the vast majority are not, nor will ever be, workaholics. People can be very energetic, but on hobbies (their avocation), not their work (vocation).
Considering they require the cooperation of the masses to realize their vision, and the masses do in fact, feed and protect them (Indira Gandhi was assassinated by her bodyguards), they should take into account that not everyone's vocation is their avocation.
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At the risk of stereotyping I do wonder if there is a c
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Nobody dies wishing they spent more time at work, though many regret not spending more time with those they love.
death march to happiness (Score:2)
Everyone will continue marching forward until everyone is happy. Guaranteed success with this guy.
Narayana Murthy (Score:5, Informative)
...is a fucking idiot.
I with with infosys folks almost daily.
Most don't have the skills required for their job roles, and most are burned out or close to it.
Slave labor isn't the answer..... training and treating your people better could be though.
If infosys continues their current race to the bottom of the barrel they'll be out of business soon enough.
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Is this the same infosys that's into doing digital IDs for the UK, banks, and whatnot?
Salary (Score:3)
Mental Illness (Score:5, Insightful)
Workaholism is a mental illness.
We got another crazy celebrating his mental illness and wishing others had it too.
He should be posting his dysfunction to TikTok like a normal crazy person.
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He should be posting his dysfunction to TikTok like a normal crazy person.
I'm SO glad that when I read that I didn't have a mouthful of the soda I'm currently drinking...
Not the only one (Score:5, Interesting)
You think the billionaire cartel you guys elected don't believe the same exact thing. They all have told themselves how self-made they are, and if you aren't 8-figures wealthy something must be wrong with you. You are either dumb or lazy. And if you are broke, in-debt, or on any kind of assistance you’re a parasite unworthy to be alive. They keep pounding this BS about meritocracy, that your value comes from your economic productiveness, and if you have no economic societal value, your life is a waste. It's all bullshit they believe. Its hard for a rich person to believe anything else. The Bible wasn't joking when it said a camel could get through the eye of a needle (note this is an impossible task) easier that a rich man can get into heaven.
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It's actually not impossible, if you have enough money to build a really big needle or bioengineer tiny tiny camels. ;)
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Yes, we know all the ways that people have come up with to try to work around what that verse means. Fact is, it was said for a purpose and is clear. Of course each wealthy person thinks they are the exception, in which case we have to ask why was the statement made in the first place if people can weasel your way out of it. A standard camel and a standard needle, the meaning is clear. Ironically the same people trying to weasel out of that line (many of them preachers) are the ones saying the Bible should
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Boy, I sure am glad you cleared that up for me. I definitely wasn't *obviously* speaking tongue-in-cheek or anything. :smh, lol:
Re:Not the only one (Score:4, Interesting)
You do realize that Trump will get 2 years in his second term as president and that then he will be replaced (whether he wants to or not) by Vance, who will be directed by the people behind 'Project 2025'.
Trump will get those 2 years and a pardon for everything he has done, as a thank you for services rendered to the people behind 'Project 2025'. Trump will live out the rest of his days like he was used to, but you and everyone else voting for Trump will soon find out that 'Project 2025' will have a (very) negative effect on the US economy and the global market as a whole.
With a bit of bad luck, it might even cost the US Dollar its position as a global trade coin. And that will make the military force the U.S.A very quickly unaffordable. Which is likely to impact the position of the U.S. as a whole in the global playing field.
One has to remember, in Trump's first term, there were still a lot of people in his staff with experience in keeping up global appearances. Given the choices he made to fill those jobs for his second term, that will not go well at all. Mainly because those people have no experience and go up against experienced people from other countries who are simply "sharper" in this regard.
Term 1 Trump may have given the impression that he wasn't all that bad as president. Term 2 Trump is most definitely the worse evil. Purely because he surrounds himself more and more with acolytes. Acolytes, who talk today like they love Trump, but in reality will be proponents for everything 'Project 2025' will want to accomplish.
Trump 2...let's just say that I hope it will not take 90 years to fix the situation, but I expect that it will bring down the U.S., Australia, Israel and Europe, while empowering China, Russia, Brazil and India, possibly igniting the Middle East. And that won't be good for anyone on this rock at all.
Hello Peter, whats happening? Ummm, I’m gonn (Score:5, Funny)
“Hello Peter, whats happening? Ummm, I’m gonna need you to go ahead come in tomorrow. So if you could be here around 9 that would be great, mmmk oh oh! and I almost forgot ahh, I’m also gonna need you to go ahead and come in on Sunday too, kay. We ahh lost some people this week and ah, we sorta need to play catch up."
No one is stopping him from paying people... (Score:4, Informative)
... to work 70 hours.
I've historically gone beyond 40 hours per week, but I was paid for every single one of them. It's how I got ahead before my salary got high enough that 40 is enough.
What he wants is to pay people for 40 hours and then have them double their hours for no additional compensation.
People certainly can find another 30 hours to get paid if they want to. But that isn't what this is.
What if... (Score:2)
What if you could just not pay them and keep them employed, just give them housing and food, appropritate to their station, and just see what happens? We could eliminate homelessness and joblessness in just a few weeks.
Can I work 1day for 1/7th of his wealth? (Score:5, Insightful)
I would be perfectly happy with 1/7th of his wealth.
I am ready to work 1 day per week for that.
Dependent gainful employment was a mistake (Score:3)
But as long as being out of work is worse than even the worst job and no one really questions the system, wage slavery is here to stay.
Says a guy ⦠(Score:2)
Who's he trying to impress? (Score:2)
He's certainly not going to be winning over his employees, so I'm curious who he's trying to impress with his "India is a poor country and thus requires workers to sacrifice their happiness and health" rhetoric.
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Politicians.
He's praising them for working so hard to get where they are, while saying all everyone else needs to do is work harder, so they too can be successful like him and the politicians.
Karma needs to bite this guy in the ass! (Score:3)
Wait, where are you going? (Score:4)
#1 Issue with H1-B in IT are these Indian firms (Score:5, Insightful)
These companies have brought Indian workers rights or lack-thereof to the U.S. Through fraud they have taken over H1-B in IT. That's the reason it's almost all Indian now, as opposed to used to be. I've worked for one of these companies and it was awful. It was contract but "salary". They have basically changed salary from a desired type of pay to the worst type of pay. You are never off work, even on vacation and in my IT department, in a major U.S. Bank. You were supposed to expect to be called 24/7 at least several times a week, if not 10 or more, when you were "off" work. Forget sleep, much less work/life balance.
Please get these Indian Head Hunter companies out of the U.S. Unless you want fraud prevalent in IT, finger pointing and no workers rights.
Rich always full of theories abt other ppls work. (Score:2)
They're serious folks (Score:2, Troll)
I don't know if we're gonna get a chance to fix this mess. It just comes down to how fast the incoming administration consolidates power.
One thing I know, we fucked around, and we're about to find out. Tariffs will cause inflation, there will be interest rate hikes to counter that inflation, and that'll lead to mass layoffs. Because that's literally how Interest rate hikes work.
The world conditions (Score:3)
that gave someone like this a voice and a lot of power were a mistake.
This twat thinks he's auditioning... (Score:3)
Work 80 hours a week for no pay? Luxury! When I were a lad we used to work 26 hours a day, 8 days a week, & pay the company for the privilege of working for 'em!
Long hours are great, if... (Score:2)
...you love the work and voluntarily choose long hours.
Long hours are counterproductive if managers force employees to do work they hate. They do it poorly, either out of protest or because of fatigue
Take an Ex-Lax and go home. (Score:2)
typically 14 hours and 10 minutes a day
Sounds like those daily 10 minutes were to unclench his anal sphincter - perhaps hoping not to be so full of shit as others might perceive him.
Slacker Hypocrite. (Score:2)
Murthy claimed he himself worked six and a half days a week until retirement..
Woah, hold up. Retirement? What kind of quitter shit-talk is that?
Best get your ass back to work. Six and a half days a week. Take that to your (early) grave, or be called the worlds biggest hypocrite.
So do I have this right? (Score:2)
For decades, India had a six day work week. It remained a poverty stricken cesspool. And Murthy's answer to fix this problem is, "Go back to a six day work week...or maybe seven!"
Either this guy is a special kind of stupid, or he wants to go back to having slaves rather than employees.
At least he's consistent (Score:2)
Wait, retirement? Surely, for the good of India, he should have worked until he died. Or even better, worked until he was no longer a net benefit, then eliminated himself as a surplus mouth to feed.
Keeping the top talent away (Score:2)
... missing the second part (Score:2)
Everyone should work 70 hours per week ... regardless of their financial compensation. A tech founder working 100 hours for for a return of $5 billion dollars. Yeah, that's totally understandable. More power to him. That same founder looking down on his workers because they won't work the same hours for compensation that the founder would consider insulting is ... insulting. It also demonstrates a lack of intelligence about economics. He thinks that supply and demand shouldn't apply to the worker ants
George Orwell had thoughts on this (Score:2, Insightful)
"...we have made a sort of fetish of... work. We see a man cutting down a tree, and we make sure that he is filling a social need, just because he uses his muscles; it does not occur to us that he may only be cutting down a beautiful tree to make room for a hideous statue." This is from "Down and Out in Paris and London", which is a book I recommend; in my opinion it's just as good as "1984", maybe better in some ways.
It strikes me that a lot of human "work" has a net effect of making life more miserable f
He still doesn't get it (Score:3, Interesting)
On the other hand (Score:3)
Another out of touch millionaire.. (Score:3)
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but you must not be able to compel anyone else to do it.
I mean sure, but it sounds like he's edgeing up towards that.
the guy working 80 hours a week will earn more than another, who works only 40 hours
Isn't that the tenet of Marxism, that the time spent is the source of value? I think generally the person producing the most value should earn more. Good chance it isn't the completely burned out underpaid 80/hr per week worker.
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I knew a woman from a wealthy Indian family. She talked about her house, her servants, and all those things and did not see a problem with the stark contrast between her family and most others. She grew up with it and accepted it without thought.
Which to me is really difficult to understand, because she's otherwise an incredibly compassionate person.