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Comment Re: I got an idea (Score 1) 110

The problem they had was giving raw unfinished data to people who were felt entitled to it

The CRU folks have trouble even keeping raw data at all - also so very scientific. Can't afford hard drive space apparently.

I'm also quite capable of reading and understanding what people are saying when they think nobody else will know (especially) without going to an apologist website.

Comment Re: I got an idea (Score 1) 110

By "hiding data" you mean how scientists were reluctant to give their data to complete strangers that already showed their bias.

Yes. Science is supposed to be an adversarial process. Whining that others may try to disprove your conclusions is decidedly unscientific.

Also please describe what you mean by gaming the system.

“I can’t see either of these papers being in the next IPCC report. Kevin and I will keep them out somehow — even if we have to redefine what the peer-review literature is!”

Comment SCADA systems (ie "the grid") (Score 1) 574

are not normally connected to the internet. Utilities have administrative networks that certainly are though.

Ideally those two networks don't ever touch each other, in practice though there are often some paths from one to the other, even if it is only sneakernet (Stuxnet apparently got onto the Iran nuclear program SCADA system via a USB drive used for transferring updates).

So yes, the hackers probably never got to exploit any such path before they were discovered, but that is almost certainly what they were looking for. It is still a hostile act.

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