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Is Microsoft Being Weighed Down By the Ghosts of Its Past? (medium.com) 206

"The Microsoft of the future is being weighed down by the ghosts of its past," argues former Microsoft engineer James Whittaker, in a new essay at Medium's new tech site, OneZero: The Microsoft of the '90s, with Bill Gates calling the shots, was a technology-forward company, fast-paced, ambitious, and unapologetically capitalistic. .. The Microsoft of the 2000s, under Steve Ballmer, was almost exactly the opposite. Bruised and battered by the consent decree handed down by the Department of Justice for the very same ambition that brought it to dominance, Ballmer's Microsoft was sales-forward and cautious. It was either gazing at its own Windows-shaped navel or nervously clutching its pearls at the approach of Google in its rearview mirror. This inattention to anything resembling the imaginative or innovative caused it to hemorrhage talent, flatline its stock, bore its customers, and miss (or at least be very late to) the next three technology megatrends -- web, cloud, and mobile -- on the trot. It was an era of hand-wringing and coming to grips with a profitable but uninspired slide into irrelevance...

Satya Nadella has embarked on a culture-forward vision, which presents some serious historical hurdles to clear. Namely: how does a company move toward a new version of itself when its ranks are replete with people who made their fame and fortune under the previous versions...? Nadella's public fight against the old Microsoft is tacit recognition of the long shadows that both Gates and Ballmer cast. Each exited the company, but their legacies linger... If Windows was the only refuge for recycled failures -- the wannabe leaders who energetically and emphatically backed Gates' and Ballmer's strategy that whiffed on the web, cloud, and mobile -- Microsoft might be ok. But the residue of the past is thick in enough places that it is suffocating the culture of tomorrow...

At its core, Microsoft is a company that makes its money the old fashioned way: by creating products of value that people willingly part with their money to use. They stand as a bulwark against the data mongering and user exploitation that Google and Facebook see as the future of humanity. The entire world has a stake in Nadella's fledgling culture-forward strategy prevailing over the 40-year momentum of the made-men standing squarely in its way.

C'mon Microsoft. The world needs you.

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Is Microsoft Being Weighed Down By the Ghosts of Its Past?

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  • Is this a joke? (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Way Smarter Than You ( 6157664 ) on Saturday October 26, 2019 @07:42PM (#59350982)
    Microsoft is going to save us from huge evil corporations? Really? So, things are so bad we need one huge trillion dollar corporation to guide our future instead of other huge trillion dollar corporations? Uh, say what? How about we stop using all this shit and pass some data protection laws and bury them all? Microsoft our savior? That's some crazy ass shit you been smoking!
    • Well...

      The Microsoft of the 2000s, under Steve Ballmer, was almost exactly the opposite. Bruised and battered by the consent decree handed down by the Department of Justice

      It's no coincidence this round and round is mathematically identical to corruption in other countries, where business is denied unless money flows to the corrupt official.

      Even if you assume that here all is good and that political donations had no effect, much less were the goal, it still yields similar results -- business is slowed.

  • Wait? (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Jebos00 ( 6341512 ) on Saturday October 26, 2019 @07:44PM (#59350994)
    You think a company that deployed keylogging datamining software to every supported windows version is going to save us from evil datamining companies?
    • by Futurepower(R) ( 558542 ) on Saturday October 26, 2019 @09:15PM (#59351178) Homepage
      The title: "Is Microsoft Being Weighed Down By the Ghosts of Its Past?"

      Should be, "Microsoft's future is limited by past Abuses."

      30 Ways Your Windows 10 Computer Phones Home to Microsoft [howtogeek.com]

      Microsoft's new small print -- how your personal data is (ab)used [edri.org]

      Quoting: "Summing up these 45 pages, one can say that Microsoft basically grants itself very broad rights to collect everything you do, say and write with and on your devices in order to sell more targeted advertising or to sell your data to third parties. The company appears to be granting itself the right to share your data either with your consent 'or as necessary' ".

      Windows 10 is possibly the worst spyware ever made. [networkworld.com] "Buried in the service agreement is permission to poke through everything on your PC."
      • by postbigbang ( 761081 ) on Saturday October 26, 2019 @09:42PM (#59351210)

        Yep.

        Let's call the ost "LinuxWashing" so as to remove the taint of prior regimes, who did some pretty dirty business along the way. The same group full of not-invented-here incestuousness, and rally the troops to make it past quarterly-earnings pushes.

        There are no new heroes there, no great champions of freedom and supporters of the truly innovative. There's lots of chest-thumping, testosterone-driven championing of self-gratifying open source initiatives, but they still battle Google, Oracle, and themselves rather than rely on actual nurtured innovation.

        Token gestures merely are for PR. Their websites are buggy as their software. I'm glad they give AWS competition, but demonstrating third party-evaluated progress is difficult, as their PR control is absolute, and they live in a walled world of their own making. To make Microsoft great requires more institutional will than they have, because they, too, are slaves to Wall Street, and all must be bent in fealty for the short-term investment.

      • by Z00L00K ( 682162 ) on Sunday October 27, 2019 @04:06AM (#59351692) Homepage Journal

        Today it seems like every company in the world is starting to think they have the same rights too.

        In addition to the spyware headache that Windows 10 is infected with from Microsoft is the completely sloppy UI that they have cooked up since Windows 8. That alone is one of the reasons to stick with Windows 7 as long as possible.

    • How is it that large companies that have corporate secrets are not completely freaked out by this?

      • Because they have teams of lawyers, and no EULA will allow MS to steal "trade secrets."

        It is the medium sized companies that should be frightened, because they have a few secrets, but they don't have as much money to protect them.

  • by Lije Baley ( 88936 ) on Saturday October 26, 2019 @07:47PM (#59351000)

    So the good part is that Microsoft is trying to be "culture-forward" and do new and cool things in a newer and cooler way, but the good part is that they make money the old fashioned way instead of they way it is done by newer and cooler companies who do new and cool things.
    I'm so confused.

    • Let me clear it up: A technology company that has a steady income stream from it's old fashioned model, but doesn't adapt to a changing future is one with a bleak long term outlook. So it's good that they make old fashioned money, and it's good that they are trying to make new market money as well.

  • Shit. Another corporate buzzword.

    Scott Adams will love it.

  • Mistaken (Score:4, Insightful)

    by jawtheshark ( 198669 ) * <slashdot@[ ]theshark.com ['jaw' in gap]> on Saturday October 26, 2019 @07:50PM (#59351006) Homepage Journal

    C'mon Microsoft. The world needs you.

    That's where you are mistaken...

    • by Zero__Kelvin ( 151819 ) on Saturday October 26, 2019 @09:16PM (#59351182) Homepage

      "That's where you are mistaken..."

      True, but the statement can be salvaged with a few extra words: "C'mon Microsoft. The world needs you to hurry the fuck up and die.

      Literally the last thing the world needs is more incompetence fuelled clusterfuckery from the shithole company that is Microsoft.

  • by Jeremi ( 14640 ) on Saturday October 26, 2019 @07:54PM (#59351018) Homepage

    ... which is make excellent-quality keyboards and mice. Everything else can be dropped or spun off to other companies, to reduce the amount of distraction from their core competencies.

    • Does Microsoft actually manufacture their own keyboards and mice? If so, when did they change their practice from putting the Microsoft brand on somebody else's product?
      • No. They haven't.

        Microsoft has never developed an anything whether hardware or software in their entire existence. They only buy stuff from third-parties or assimilate entire third-parties so they can call other-peoples-shit their own. (Sort of like Banksters only play with other-peoples-money -- they have none of their own).

        Come to think of it there are two things that Microsoft did do itself: Microsoft Bob; and, Clippy

        And we know how those worked out.

        • No. They haven't.

          Microsoft has never developed an anything whether hardware or software in their entire existence.

          Edison would be proud.

    • I wonder what you think their core competence is. If you answer making keyboards, mice, and Windows 10, then you may as well just sink the company. None of those are profit centres that are currently driving their share price to all time highs.

      MS is doing well largely because their went outside their core competence.

      • He is mocking them by saying their core competency is making keyboards and mice.

        Another way to say the same thing, "Microsoft's core competency is convincing people to buy the crap they build." Except the world has mostly been brought down to Microsoft's level, so it's not such a funny joke anymore.
  • Anything but these mega-tech companies that act like they do - rather like Standard Oil and the other evil monopolies of yesterday.

  • Willingly? huh? (Score:4, Interesting)

    by bussdriver ( 620565 ) on Saturday October 26, 2019 @07:59PM (#59351028)

    Who values MS software to the point they'd actually willingly pay for it??

    Even great free software has trouble getting people to donate to the software they love at a quarter of the price MS demands for their software.

    We buy MS when we have no other alternative. Maybe a few things are ok... but they can't support their company from the few products in that group-- they mostly profit from 2 monopolistic products and xbox.

    • We use MS Office every day in my company. Not because it is the Only Option, but because it works. OpenOffice and other attempts are shit. Say what you will about Windows since we use Macs and Linux machines, but office really does get the job done.
      • by Zero__Kelvin ( 151819 ) on Saturday October 26, 2019 @09:21PM (#59351188) Homepage
        Office has literally no benefit over any of the alternatives for 99% of the user base other than "it's all I have ever used and I would have to learn something new." I admit that Word has some nice features, like Bookmarking and Index generation, etc. however most people don't even know how to use the more basic but still highly useful features that other packages also have such as styles and templates.
        • MS Office has an ecosystem and an install base. If I sit Dorris, our average client, in front of Word she knows what to do and already has it installed so i donâ(TM)t have to worry about file conversion. Like Facebook or Twitter, the install base is part of the draw, even if other suites have feature parity - a claim I find dubious.

          Also, thanks for making me feel dirty for having to defend MS Office! ;-)
          • You just said the same thing I said, but using more words. Saying she doesn't have to worry about file conversion is the same as "she would have to learn something new." However your claim is wrong anyway, since different versions of Word use different extensions, etc. If you save with the latest version you can't share it with someone who has an older version, so "Save As" must be learned anyway. Of course the only thing that keeps the momentum going is people being ridiculous and making such a ridiculous
        • by Kjella ( 173770 )

          I'm not sure if you should list that as a pro or a con though. Like we've spent all this time and effort and they finally have a rudimentary skill in MS Office, you want the to start using a new tool? The people who think the Internet is the big blue e? That want/need a retraining class every time a button changes place or a menu changes name? I've had the displeasure of being my parent's tech support, it didn't take anything more than their online bank doing a layout change before they called me because ev

          • Right. You just made the argument for switching. Windows is not a singular stable platform nor is Office. They change things regularly and people have to learn the new way to do what they have been doing for years. Claiming not switching avoids unfamiliarity is bullshit. Sticking with Microsoft means less UX stabity over time, not more.
        • Word has some nice features, like Bookmarking and Index generation

          So has LibreOffice - probably since it was Star Office. These features were certainly in OpenOffice over 10 years ago - as is creation and management of references using a database - ANY database (although it would be a shame to use an MS database, since they don't manage (invalid) dates correctly).

          Two LibreOffice users I know did not even know about styles/Gallery and Templates until they moved to LibreOffice - probably because they Googl

    • Re:Willingly? huh? (Score:4, Interesting)

      by DogDude ( 805747 ) on Saturday October 26, 2019 @08:15PM (#59351064)
      Most of the people on the planet, that's who. We happily pay for Windows and their (now discontinued) point of sale software. Both are the best in the industry for companies of our size.
    • Who values MS software to the point they'd actually willingly pay for it??

      The people who are willing to pay 8+ figures for it. i.e. the only people who matter.

  • by rnturn ( 11092 ) on Saturday October 26, 2019 @08:04PM (#59351038)

    Oh, yeah. It's the sound of the world's tiniest violin playing mournfully in the background as I read about Microsoft's woes.

  • by drinkypoo ( 153816 ) <drink@hyperlogos.org> on Saturday October 26, 2019 @08:23PM (#59351078) Homepage Journal

    They can take their spyware and shove it straight up their ass.

    Microsoft has done nothing to earn trust. Absolutely fucking zero.

    • Microsoft has done nothing to earn trust. Absolutely fucking zero.

      Yup, the only reason the author of TFA remembers Microsoft through rose-colored glasses, is because most of Microsoft's most egregious endeavors failed in the marketplace.

      They also haven't learned. They're still trying to push that God-awful "S mode [hrwiki.org]" on some of their overpriced*, under-powered tablets.

      * I'm not trying to fanboy over Apple here (they're guilty of some crap, too), but the current gen iPad is cheaper then the Surface Go, and typically goes on sale for even less around Black Friday.

  • It's called Karma (Score:5, Insightful)

    by khchung ( 462899 ) on Saturday October 26, 2019 @08:24PM (#59351082) Journal

    There are still a lot of people who remembered all the shit M$ had done and avoided doing business with them when possible.

    Claiming that M$ was "bruised and battered" by that slap on the wrist, and saying Microsoft had ever created "products of value that people willingly part with their money to use" just showed you that they did not even realized what shitty things they had done.

    At its core, Microsoft only knew to leverage and abuse its monopoly position to force its software down people's throat. Without that leverage, such as on the mobile platform, nobody willingly installs Microsoft software.

    Karma is a bitch, M$ deserved every bit of it.

    • by waspleg ( 316038 )

      Microsoft only knew to leverage and abuse its monopoly position to force its software down people's throat.

      How are they any different whatsoever from the past? Windows 10. They're every bit as evil as they ever were, only now they have PR department.

    • There are many reasons to hate Microsoft, but offering IE for free was never too high on my list. As a result, you'll notice there were decades where basic utilities had to be downloaded that every Linux distro as well as MacOS bundled....for example, a zip utility. Microsoft really held back on innovation in the OS to avoid antitrust penalties and Windows users suffered. I hated having to download WinRAR when all my Linux machines could just read .rar files by default. I'd say they were definitely more
      • by MightyMartian ( 840721 ) on Saturday October 26, 2019 @10:43PM (#59351372) Journal

        Man, I love the "I used to use Linux but now I love MS" flamebait posts. Like wealthy Nigerian scam emails, they never get ols

      • Just FYI, There is no such thing as "MacOS".

        "Mac OS" refers to the old, pre-OS X days. The new, post-OS X operating system is called "macOS" (no space). If you want a trick to remember the syntax, just think about "iOS".

    • Claiming that M$ was "bruised and battered" by that slap on the wrist, and saying Microsoft had ever created "products of value that people willingly part with their money to use" just showed you that they did not even realized what shitty things they had done.

      Exactly so. Bruised and battered by a huge US Government contract for their pathetically unreliable cloud offering?

      Have you ever been beaten to death with a soft pillow?

      WTF?

  • by rsilvergun ( 571051 ) on Saturday October 26, 2019 @08:28PM (#59351090)
    because of Office at this point. Even the Windows monopoly might not have saved them from multiple disastrous products (XBox, Windows Phone, Money, etc).

    It's fine if elements in Microsoft want to look forward. They do that all the time. They just suck at it. They can get it right every now and then (Xbox 360) but man, when they blow it they blow it (XBone launch).

    I don't think Microsoft is a company that should risk forgetting it's roots.
    • because of Office at this point.

      Someone hasn't seen their profit statements. Office barely registers on it, let alone actually be the profit centre which is currently keeping their profit and share price at all time highs.

      Office can disappear tomorrow and MS will still be making stupid amounts of money. You should look into what it is they actually do.

      • it's guaranteed profits every single year. It lets them take risks. If Office disappears tomorrow then the next time they screw up will be the last time.

        This is actually a bit of a stickler for me in general. Folks like to talk about Entrepreneurs as risk takers, but there's actually very, very few of those. Most Entrepreneurs have something solid to fall back on. Small ones have friends and family, own a home with a nest egg and have a long career with a college degree backing them up so they can just
  • Monoploy (Score:5, Insightful)

    by PertinaxII ( 6264270 ) on Saturday October 26, 2019 @08:28PM (#59351096)

    Microsoft still makes most of it's money from having illegally created a monopoly on Desktop and Laptops, for which it was fined billions of dollars in the US and Europe. It still has 86% of that market which means that every manufacturer, other than Apple and System 76 forces consumers to buy Windows and usually Office, same old game.

    The new Microsoft, under Nadella, is trying to diversify into commercial cloud services by using those profits to undercut Amazon and Google, and they are having some success. That makes them more attractive to software engineers who can't get a job at Google.

    Medium is full of narcissistic rubbish and this article is typical. It is just meaningless jargon and spin that belongs only at a Microsoft staff conference.

    • If you go into PC World, you will also be told lies about how AMD is only a toy, and real users need an Intel processor - "You look like a serious user - never mind that Rysen 7 with HDR, have this "Pentium Gold with 1220x768"

      No, I did not punch him on the nose - but only because of the CCTV.

  • What a load of bollocks.
  • by kackle ( 910159 ) on Saturday October 26, 2019 @08:32PM (#59351106)
    OLD Microsoft? Give me a break. Didn't they just trick old ladies and children into downloading Windows 10?

    We don't need them as much as we need another OS company. (Linux is great and all, but there are too many versions out there for the basic user to choose from, and its power [arguably overkill for a basic single user] makes its internals too complicated for the average person to deal with.)
    • That's bullshit. I have set up Linux systems for people without any skills as a power user and they like it because it actually does "just work" unlike Windows. I have often had people tell me they would never go back to Windows. I've never had one who wasn't glad they switched and went back to Windows.
      • My experience has been that most people, who have never partitioned a disk into multiple partitions, like Linux just fine. Facebook and Google work exactly the same under desktop Linux as they do on Windows. Most people wouldn't know the difference been Linux and a Windows UI update, and they don't care. They click a picture, it opens.

        At the other extreme, people who want to deeply understand how the OS and services work enjoy Linux - you get as deep into the guts of the system as you want, and it all mak

        • "Windows experts may not want to learn something new."

          "Windows Expert" generally correlates with what used to be a Novel NCSE. It general terms they do not actually know anything except which picture to poke to do something, and were it can be found in the UI-of-the-moment. I believe Microsoft calls them MCSE or MVP or something -- MVP standing for Most Valued Putz.

          • MVP standing for Most Valued Putz

            Thanks for that - I often wondered.

          • > except which picture to poke to do something, and were it can be found in the UI-of-the-moment.

            Quite. One of the questions I got on one if the Microsoft exams concerned in which Windows version the control panel applet was called "Printing" vs "Printers and other hardware", or whatever the f*ck the exact names were. The right answer, on all versions of Windows, is "click the one that says 'Print....'"; according to the Microsoft cert an expert is someone who remembers which version switched the exact

        • by rl117 ( 110595 )

          "enjoy Linux - you get as deep into the guts of the system as you want, and it all makes sense"

          This was certainly true... until systemd came along and the system is no longer your own; its internal state is not even known to the systemd developers.

      • by Dunbal ( 464142 ) *

        I have set up Linux systems for people

        Which means you are not a "basic user" as stated by kackle. The point stands.

        • What your post means is that you aren't smart enough to figure out that when someone buys a PC it was set up by someone who knows how to do it. The OS and Office, etc. come preinstalled and configured. People like to say using Linux is something you need to be highly skilled to do, when what they mean is that the initial installation and configuration requires skills. In other words,, you don't know the difference between a user and the IT expert who originally sets up the system, either in an OEM capacity
      • by kackle ( 910159 )
        Well, perhaps I was a bit off on the layperson/user knowledge comment. But the fact that there are many Linux distros today means the layperson would struggle today to get help when something doesn't go perfectly.
        • Unless it is an obscure distribution, which it wouldn't be if a real expert sets it up for them since they would never choose an obscure one knowing a "regular Joe" will be using it, then this is not an issue. Anyone who has ever tried to solve a Windows problem knows that for any given error message or number you will find pages of issues and solutions unrelated to the problem you are experiencing, and tens of different solutions to the same problem. Windows isn't any more friendly to the user when things
  • The summary contrasts Microsoft's "old fashioned" money for products approach to Google's "user exploitation" approach. Even ignoring the question of whether or not the targeted ad-based model is "exploitation", it's not accurate to say that Google believes that advertising-supported products are "the future of humanity".

    Advertising is the ideal way to fund products whose value to individual users is low enough that it doesn't justify payment of fees, but high enough that users are willing to view ads in order to use it, and which have sufficiently-broad appeal.. Broadcast media, web search and webmail are all examples. Other products make more sense in the traditional produce for fee structure -- Google's GSuite is one example of that, as well as all of the physical and digital goods sold by the Play store, among others. Google does both sorts of business, and is actually growing its "old-fashioned" business faster than it's "new-fangled" business (not that advertising-supported media is remotely new).

    I'm quite happy to see the many of the changes Microsoft has made, and I wish them well (and not only because I own some MSFT stock), but the author's characterization of the company as a "bulwark against data mongering and user exploitation" is just silly.

  • At its core, Microsoft is a company that makes its money the old fashioned way: by creating products of value that people willingly part with their money to use.

    Fucking lol. I can count the number of people I've met who genuinely liked and wanted Windows on a blind butcher's worst hand. For the vast majority of people it's what comes with the computer so it's what's needed to make it work, and for most of the rest it's just necessary to run the software they actually want or need to use. Some weigh up their options and decide that overall it's less troublesome than mucking around with compatibility layers on other operating systems or using different software for t

    • Fucking lol. I can count the number of people I've met who genuinely liked and wanted Windows on a blind butcher's worst hand

      You've never been to Seattle.

  • by Rick Schumann ( 4662797 ) on Saturday October 26, 2019 @09:31PM (#59351204) Journal

    Is Microsoft Being Weighed Down By the Sins of Its Present?

    Yes, yes it is. Forcing their product on people who didn't ask for it and don't understand what's happening. Spying on it's end-users and taking control of hardware they don't have a legal right to. Shoving ads in your face. And so on.
    I'm glad I'm running Ubuntu, no regrets, and never going back.

  • "C'mon Microsoft. The world needs you"

    OMG! Ponies!
  • by BrendaEM ( 871664 ) on Saturday October 26, 2019 @09:58PM (#59351258) Homepage
    The Bluetooth on Windows now rots for connections, gives up, and the user can only download files on request. Even the best Intel Wifi drivers loose connection. Windows logs take forever to sort, since they changed whatever they did some time ago. Windows computers wake from sleep to do random chores, that cannot be locked down. There are incomplete menu, using several different unfinished styles. Bootup wallpapers get replaced with default ones. The new Group-by" "feature was one that no one every wanted. To top it all off, whenever people get upset--Microsoft locks their threads.
  • by superwiz ( 655733 ) on Saturday October 26, 2019 @10:00PM (#59351264) Journal

    Yes, Ballmer had his rough spots. He was a CEO! Culture first! FUCK THAT.

    Ballmer era almost perfectly coincides with the Windows 7 era. What about Vista, you ask? Well, it sucked. So MS buried it. Like a good company should.

    Nadella got promoted because he built a successful Azure business for MS. Except now that everyone from the cloud has more clout, everything looks like a nail (and yes cloud is the hammer). Everything that is wrong with the modern batch of MS is in its attempts to phone back to the mothership. This is cloud mentality. Making your OS just a terminal is why everyone dreads it. Win 10 installs are multiplying because of exclusive deals and, YES (FUCK YES) because of anticompetitve practices. It's the new MS competing with the Win 7 MS and playing dirty at it. Most users would much, much, much prefer Win7 if they were given the choice.

    The majority of Win 10 installs are done because AMD won't support Win 7 and because MS won't issue new Win 7 licenses. The office in the cloud is a TERRIBLE idea. It's awful and provides worse quality than MS Office provided 15 years ago. Ever seen Grammarly adds? Yeah, that's because the MS Office which did all of that 20 years ago is not installed by default on most PC purchases (like it used to be).

    MS would have done better by putting its own chinese wall between the cloud and the desktop business. Run VMs in the cloud if you want to, but don't try to erase the difference between desktops and VMs. It's not needed by most users. And it's a configuration nightmare for those who do try to do some trivial thing "seamlessly."

    • " Most users would much, much, much prefer Win7 if they were given the choice."

      Actually, they would prefer Windows 10 2000. That is, the Windows 10 Kernel with the Windows 2000 UI.

  • }--- Microsoft is a company that makes its money the old fashioned way: by creating products of value that people willingly part with their money to use. ---{ . I mean what in the world is this guy smoking?
  • by Nocturrne ( 912399 ) on Saturday October 26, 2019 @10:18PM (#59351318)

    The microsoft tax, bloat, and spyware as an operating system need to be burned to ash. We need a new operating system that is open source, secure, and private. The only way is to start from scratch. C'mon CS nerds. Make it.

  • by melted ( 227442 ) on Saturday October 26, 2019 @10:36PM (#59351358) Homepage

    Every time he leaves an employer he posts a lengthy diatribe complaining about his former employer. Last time it was Google. Now it's Microsoft. What the fuck did you expect from a 200K person behemoth? Agility? Impact? People who give a shit? That's pretty naive. 90% of MS is rest-and-vest crowd, and they're getting less and less picky by the year as Google, FB, and Amazon hire the best and brightest from under their nose.

  • by burningcpu ( 1234256 ) on Saturday October 26, 2019 @10:39PM (#59351364)
    An interesting (to me) comparison is what would happen to an individual versus a company, as consequence for breaking as many laws as Microsoft. A person would be labeled a felon and prevented from holding many types of jobs, would be required to disclose the fact to all potential employers, and would otherwise carry the stigma for life.

    If corporations are to be treated as 'people' WRT speech and such, we must bring the stick along with the carrot. Corporate death penalty must be on the table.
  • Mostly horseshit but the conclusion is at least truthful. For good or bad, Microsoft appears to be achieving without selling us out like more modern tech companies
  • by King_TJ ( 85913 ) on Sunday October 27, 2019 @12:07AM (#59351464) Journal

    As someone who loved to hate on Microsoft for decades? I've got to admit that right now, they're poised to be the most profitable and successful they've been in a LONG time.

    First off? They *finally* took a page from Apple's playbook and started building their own hardware to run their software on. The whole "Surface" product line allows businesses to purchase their hardware and not have all the headaches about device drivers and BIOS/firmware updates. Everything is just auto-detected as part of the Windows 10 installation, or gets updated automatically as part of the Windows updates.

    Second? Azure is going to be a huge win for them. They were just awarded that $10 billion defense department contract with the U.S., as one example -- and in the past, that would have gone to Amazon, IBM or Oracle. They're really going all-in with cloud based services and applications, and I don't think a lot of people even realize how they're poised to overtake the existing "standards" for so many of them. The flagship of selling Office is what got their foot in the door. Companies using Office products saw it just made more sense to buy Office 365 subscriptions and let the products auto-update to the latest versions continuously, vs. buying a specific Office release and being stuck on it until they paid for the next major version they wanted to use. But once you have that, you also get "OneDrive" storage at no extra cost. And they've added enough functionality to OneDrive so it parallels DropBox. When you look what it costs to buy DropBox for Teams licenses for a company -- it's easy to see why you'd dump that and go to OneDrive. Or look at Microsoft's "Teams" application they're throwing in. It does everything you could do with a Slack subscription, except integrated more tightly with your contact list in Outlook and with ability to link to content you might have on OneDrive or using Microsoft SharePoint. Oh, and they took Skype for Business and are rolling THAT into Teams too, so you'll get accustomed to using Teams just for those video chats you used to do on Skype. Or how about the new Microsoft Forms? It lets you whip up surveys and tabulate the results, meaning you might not need that SurveyMonkey subscription anymore either.

    They've already killed off most of the competition for hosting corporate email. Everyone I know uses Exchange with O365 at this point. Again, why not? If you pay for that Office 365 license anyway, you don't need to pay again for some third party to host your Exchange mail services.

  • "They stand as a bulwark against the data mongering and user exploitation that Google and Facebook see as the future of humanity." I respectfully disagree with this statement, mainly because of the data-harvest happy tendencies of Windows 10. I would assume most readers here are familiar with what data Windows 10 collects and the fact that you have to opt-out manually (during the initial install, and in some cases have to root deep into the registry to fully turn off.) Also, and perhaps most egregiously, i
  • Culture is set by example, not management. Until Microsoft finds an aggressively creative male leader to once again energize the company with new ideas and insights it is bound to suffer the fate of every large, successful company: slow, bureaucratic decline. In this gynocentric, hyper-liberal time these usually difficult people cannot rise to control companies. They are eliminated long before they can drive companies forward today. Companies must create female friendly environments, the gold standard of a
  • by RobinH ( 124750 ) on Sunday October 27, 2019 @07:32AM (#59351964) Homepage
    There are lots of companies like ours, that choose to build large enterprise applications on top of .NET. We did this with the acceptance that we're going to be bound to Microsoft technologies like .NET, visual studio, SQL server, and Windows for the foreseeable future, but that was ok. They haven't really done anything "bad" in the last 20 years. Recently they announced their intention to end .NET framework at version 4 and base version 5 on their open source .NET core, which runs on any platform. This is all very pro-business, and companies are happy to stick with a supplier that looks like it'll be around and boring for decades. On the other hand, building on Google technologies is like building on a sand foundation. It changes every 18 months.
  • by fred911 ( 83970 )

    ''At its core, Microsoft is a company that makes its money the old fashioned way: by creating products of value that people willingly part with their money to use. They stand as a bulwark against the data mongering and user exploitation that Google and Facebook see as the future of humanity.''

    How can anyone say this with a straight face when we all know the ultimate plan for their desktop is to stop distribution of client side executables only to be replaced with local DRM so that all services and processes

  • Microsoft needs to fire all the old people and replace them with interns.
  • MS is weighted down by being MS. They are an evil, greedy company, with, at best, semi-competent engineering and consistently bad leadership. Without the historic accident of the quasi-monopoly they still hold, nobody would even know their name today.

  • What the hell does that even mean?

    Am I supposed to buy their "culture"? I mean I get it, it's worked for IBM for at least the last 30-40 years (do they even sell anything now)? But...?

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