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Comment Re:This is more exciting that circling the mooon (Score 1) 37

Sorry to say, but this seems more exciting than our recent circle of the moon.

True but the circling of a human crew is a bit more exciting than the occasional camera of the last 50 years. Its progress. :-)

Without a vehicle to get people to the moon, we don't need to extract O2. I guess you could argue we need to do the electrolysis anyway to extract metals for robotic manufacturing.

Comment Re:Claim + Evidence is not just for science (Score 1) 56

Mostly the attacks on people changing their position are aimed at stopping them from doing so and thereby supporting the position they have found reason to abandon.

That should undermine the credibility of the people attacking, those supporting the old position found to be incorrect.

In other words, attacks should not be trusted with data to back them up.

If the US says that the Chinese are secretly planning to invade Taiwan, for example, how could anyone expect to check. They presumably have access to sources that we do not.

Well in a functioning democracy the executive branch would be verified by the legislative branch. The leadership of the House and Senate Armed Services Committees should have been advised and seen the evidence. Not a perfect solution, some trust is still involved, but at least there are two groups. Maybe three depending on how you look at it. The military made a claim, the president had to be convinced, House/Senate oversight had to be convinced.

Comment Appeal to authority fallacy (Score 1) 56

> Verify what is said,

Finding out information that only exists inside a company, particularly a private company not listed on the stock market, is extraordinarly difficult. The walls are closed. How should we go about verifying what is said?

If its not verifiable then the claim is not to be trusted.

Think about the appeal to authority fallacy. It's based on a "trust me". A true authority does not wave credentials and say "trust me." A true authority can show and explain the data in a way the masses can understand, so that the masses can see for themselves the validity of a claim. The same applies to corporates spokespeople. Its a fallacy to believe them merely on their job title.

Comment Re:Claim + Evidence is not just for science (Score 1) 56

There are levels. People may make wrong statements that they believe to be true.

As I said, "imperfect knowledge" is one of the factors. But the result is the same, one needs to verify the evidence. Perhaps we should repurpose your "level" clarification. How much work you put into evaluating the evidence depends on the "level". A friend says a movie is good, fine, trust and go see it.

The great problem that I see in modern society, is that when someone changes their position on something, because they have new information, they are accused of waffling or wavering. Stupidly clinging to an old position that you took in good faith and now know is wrong is just as bad as lying about it intentionally.

Which would be less of an issue if more people have a more scientific approach. Also, such accusations are useful. They help spot those that are the liars or the naively trusting. A hazard of all, the left, right, or center.

Comment Mostly fluff, real metric is robot vs dog nav (Score 1) 19

Glad you made the effort in the headline to explain what a Guide Dog does.

And much of that functionality is unnecessary. We can already have all those conversations with our cell phones.

The only meaningful behavior of the robot is what a dog would do. Provide subtle "follow me" physical feedback for real time navigation of immediate obstacles and hazards. Yes, wrt hazards, sometimes the dog's feedback is not so subtle. The one and only question is how a robot and a dog compare with respect to such real-time navigation.

Comment Speaking of over engineered .... (Score 1) 19

You don't need a robot dog for this, just a body mounted camera. AR goggles would be ideal for this as they could continually tell you what you're looking at and read text to you.

AR Goggles? These people are blind. Their cell phone and ear buds would accomplish what you describe.

AR Goggles are an example of over engineering too. :-)

Comment Claim + Evidence is not just for science (Score 1) 56

Almost no one can be trusted. Nearly everyone has imperfect knowledge, bias, an agenda, etc. And the more "well meaning" they believe their agenda the more open they are to inserting an agenda. Accurate or not, its a the ends justifying the means. A "white lie" that leads to a better outcome, or so they believe. This is normal human behavior, left, right, or center.

The solution is simple. Verify what is said, regardless of whether you like or dislike what was said, regardless of whether the person is friend or "foe", "ally" or not, etc. That's the only way to find the truth. Look at the evidence behind the claim or opinion.

Otherwise, you are setting yourself up for manipulation. Rewarding the liars on your team, and every team has liars, who rely on people trusting their team's leadership, statements aligned with their team's expectations, ideals, etc.

Sorry, but knowing what is really happening takes work on your part. Verifying a claim based on evidence is not something only to be practiced in science.

Comment "Good intentions" does not outweigh bad writing (Score 2) 93

This is revisionist to Star Trek ToS that "pander to all the current 'sensitivities'" under the eye of people today. It was very progressive at the time and dealt from long standing human issues like racism. It wouldn't be considered, in most circles, to be today, but that's a sign that many of us have progressed

The important distinctions were that the issues were handled with (1) greater class and intelligence and (2) audiences reacted more positively. "Good intentions" does not outweigh bad writing.

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