Oh I get it. Whites and their culture are to be despised when possible, lauded when useful. Seems pretty straightforward.

That's pretty much what I finally decided on too. Shrug. I work for a EU firm in the US so we even have a corp car policy that if you get an EV they'll pay for installing a charge station at your house which I suspect I could finagle (or end up paying only an upcharge for) into a decent home-size battery-storage that I've wanted as well.

Maybe my next car-buying cycle.

What people on /. can't seem to wrap their head around is that it's possible to be pro-EV conceptually while recognizing that they might not be the answer to every problem or not there technologically yet:

- yes, I'm a cutting edge tech guy; I would LIKE to drive an ev for all sorts of reasons, some of them irrational
- at the same time, I recognize the shortcomings and have to recognize REAL LIFE calculations of time, value, etc.

Initially, yes, I thought so too.

I don't know what universe you live in but it's rather often that I drive MORE THAN JUST to/from work in a day? I live in an exurb, so while I figured I could get by with 40mi/day on elec to cover the occasional run into the nearest shopping center, parts story, Costco, or Microcenter...well yeah, if most of my driving is going to end up being gas-powered (on an overweight, overcomplicated, under-engined vehicle as well) then...why waste my $/time on a PHEV?

I drive to Chicago about once every 3 weeks - about 440 miles each way
I drive to a lake cabin about every other weekend on average (more in summer, less in winter) - 149mi each way.
You tell me if my "range anxiety" is rational, then? The run to Chicago is about 7 hours assuming I can align around traffic. No, I don't want to add 1.5 hours fucking around at chargers esp as ABRP shows at least 2 of the required stops are at chargers with 3 or fewer points - ie likely to be in use.

My work is 5 mi away, would have been perfect for a PHEV except for:
Common low temps by my home: -30f/-35c Dec-Feb; about every 3rd winter we hit -40 for a few days. Yes, I keep my car in a garage but there is no indoor parking at my work. No charging at work, either.
And what would my Chicago run take at -30F?

Audi PHEV has "30 mi" range on electric (supposedly) but the sales person admitted that this could drop to FIFTEEN miles in very cold weather.

They're also a fantastically wealthy petro state with a highly-educated population and a persistent culture of high conformity, collectivism, ecological responsibility, and social welfare most of which are features which have been famously hard to export to ... anywhere.

And they are nearly entirely white making it extra ironic that their culture is so frequently touted as exemplary by leftists who simultaneously insist "white culture" is the source of everything wrong with the world.

The racial distribution of Norway population - surprisingly hard to find as they themselves attempt to hide it by using terms like "Norwegian" but then lumping in immigrants etc: are in fact 99.18% are white and 0.82% are multiracial.
https://www.neilsberg.com/insi...

So... are these the "good whites" then? Are they "surprisingly articulate" too? Or is it just that they conveniently drive EVs?

Shall we compare some numbers?
Miles per year: 8000 NO vs 16000 US
Norway average trip per US is even shorter in proportion.
Average Norwegian road speeds are much less (far fewer major trunk highways, basically)

Sorry, Thorsten Veblen was the one who wrote the book Conspicuous Consumption (where consumers make rational choices but it's about displaying things not efficiency with their money).

Not sure there was an ELI5 way to say that for anyone bothering to read it.

Let me guess, you're the same bot farm

Well, we're talking about Coke on slashdot so depending on their metrics, it's a success.

I strongly considered a phev for my last purchased car in dec 24, the math didn't math.
I expect eventually I will get an ev, but I still think they're a Veblenseque luxury* rather than a rationally good choice for most American drivers.

Rsilvergun: "we don't need plumbers any more because we aren't building cities"

Jesus Christ of all the colossally stupid shit you say, I'm impressed you managed to find something even dumber.

I know a c-student guy who just got his master electrician cert (training & cert paid for by his company) making about $110k comfortably with minimal overtime.

If you think kids come out of college with "critical thinking" skills, I'm not sure you've been near a college campus in 30 years.

Not disputing anything you wrote but I'm curious how long ago you went to college and (if you care to share) your approximate family income at the time?

We put 4 kids through college 2011-2020 and found that FAFSA was basically just an on ramp to easy loan money (and saw a lot of our kids' peers get themselves unreasonably into debt thereby, going to colleges that were CLEARLY outside their income bracket).
Afaik the "grants" part of fafsa is only fully available to (today) a *family* income of $60k which is really quite poor.

Oh look, later reporting turns out to confirm he just meant weapon testing NOT setting off desert nukes, ie doing the normal sorts of weapon tests both Russia and China never stopped doing.

What, ArchieBunker turns out just to have been tendentiously misinterpreting the news as strawman as he could manage to be?

Huh, never would have guessed.

Chinese Bot.

Certainly that's what they seem to be today, yes.

I don't think they always were. I had a grandfather who was a strong union guy and he said they aggressively kicked out malingerers and useless workers because obvious fuckoffs weaken the union's arguments to get better pay and benefits.