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'Great Resignation' Gains Steam As Return-To-Work Plans Take Effect (cnbc.com) 174

In what's been dubbed the "Great Resignation," a whopping 95% of workers are now considering changing jobs, and 92% are even willing to switch industries to find the right position, according to a recent report by jobs site Monster.com. CNBC reports: Most say burnout and lack of growth opportunities are what is driving the shift, Monster found. "When we were in the throes of the pandemic, so many people buckled down, now what we're seeing is a sign of confidence," said Scott Blumsack, senior vice president of research and insights at Monster. Already, a record 4 million people quit their jobs in April alone, according to the Labor Department. At the same time, there are more opportunities for job seekers -- with the Labor Department reporting a record 9.3 million job openings as of the latest tally. "The number of open jobs is higher than ever before, that's absolutely contributing to why candidates are putting their toe in the water to see what's out there," Blumsack said.

As Covid vaccinations gain steam, so are plans to return to the office, which is driving more workers to consider their options. In a survey of more than 350 CEOs and human resources and finance leaders, 70% said they plan to have employees back in the office by the fall of this year -- if not sooner -- according to a report by staffing firm LaSalle Network. Of the companies that are planning for office reentry, managing employees who want to continue working remotely is a top concern, LaSalle Network found. "If we see a wave of employees leaving, companies are going to have to figure it out," Reitan said.
The report goes on to cite a separate survey from McKinsey that says 9 out of 10 organizations will now be combining remote and on-site working.
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'Great Resignation' Gains Steam As Return-To-Work Plans Take Effect

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  • by Organic Brain Damage ( 863655 ) on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @09:32PM (#61539148)
    I switched jobs in January 2021. Pre-vaccination. My new company of about 5,000 is classifying us into Office, Flex and Remote. Office class workers are required in the office for some or all of the work week. Flex can come in if they want to if a flex-cube is available in the on-line booking or if there's a group meeting that would be beneficial to attend in person. Remote are expected to work from home 100%.

    I'm classified Flex and that suits me fine. If they re-classify me Office, I'll call my recruiters immediately.
    • Flex (Score:3, Interesting)

      by JBMcB ( 73720 )

      My employer sent out a questionnaire on how we'd want to be classified. Our team chose flex. Another team chose remote. So that's how we're working. I think it's the right way to do it.

    • Re: (Score:2, Funny)

      I asked to be classified God-Emperor of the Universe, second option Middle Claw of Justice in the Three Galaxies. They muttered something about severance pay and being escorted off the premises.
  • Monster.com (Score:5, Insightful)

    by phantomfive ( 622387 ) on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @09:41PM (#61539158) Journal

    I'm amazed Monster is still around. I gave up trying to find anything good on Monster.com over 15 years ago.

    • by backslashdot ( 95548 ) on Thursday July 01, 2021 @12:07AM (#61539394)

      It's still around. Their employees can't leave because they have to find new jobs, but they use Monster so they're stuck there. A benefit that doubles as an employee retention plan.

    • by Salgak1 ( 20136 ) <salgak@speakea s y .net> on Thursday July 01, 2021 @06:46AM (#61539886) Homepage

      I deleted my profile on Monster 10+ years ago. I ***still*** get pings from employers who say they found me on Monster. With one exception, they were all insurance companies looking for salesmen. The exception was a new, local supermarket, They were looking for shelf stockers and checkout clerks.

      Mind you, I'm a Security Engineer and Architect with 35+ years experience. And someone thought I was a match for ***ANY*** of these positions ???? /boggle

      • by Kreplock ( 1088483 ) on Thursday July 01, 2021 @08:07AM (#61539982)
        Don't be so hard on yourself, I'm sure you could learn the nuances of shelving canned goods.
        • by GoTeam ( 5042081 )
          I don't know, after 35 years of mostly (probably) computer work the arthritis in Salgak1's hands could make shelving canned goods difficult. On the plus side I saw a billboard for teaching people how to code. So all the normal shelvers of canned goods can become developers. Life finds a way!
      • I dunno, there are days when I think that I'd be happier stocking shelves.

    • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

      It might depend on the country you are in, Monster isn't bad for the UK market. Actually I found my last EU job on Monster I think.

    • by jythie ( 914043 )
      Wow. I didn't know they still existed. As you say, one can never find anything good on there, I wonder how they keep the lights on.
    • With some digging (extraordinary claims require extraordinary scrutiny): https://learnmore.monster.com/... [monster.com].
      It seems that this is merely a poll by monster.com. I mean, even in a good year, 95% of those workers visiting monster.com are likely to be considering changing jobs (the other 5% were kids disappointed to find out the site was not actually about monsters). Not sure if the poll was self-selected or random, there are no details. The CNBC article seems to be taking editorial liberties that this is all

  • by digitrev ( 989335 ) <digitrev@hotmail.com> on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @09:43PM (#61539160) Homepage
    I don't trust these statistics in the slightest. Monster.com, a site built around job-hunting, finds that most of the people they contact are looking for new jobs.
    • 95% does seem excessively, unrealistically high. That's the kind of quota you get when Putin is confirmed as supreme leader in Soviet Russia.

      • by cusco ( 717999 ) <brian.bixby@gmail . c om> on Thursday July 01, 2021 @12:33PM (#61540630)

        If you talk to Russians he's actually pretty popular there. Sure, he's a repressive dictatorial asshole, but the economy and society is pretty stable and people aren't fighting for sleeping places under the bridges in winter like under his predecessor. My friends in Moscow said essentially, "We don't actually like him much, but all the alternatives are an order of magnitude worse so I'll vote for him again next time."

        Yeah, mod me down, I don't give a fuck.

  • by TWX ( 665546 ) on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @09:43PM (#61539164)

    Lots of people are dissatisfied with work. There's an old joke that goes something like, "'I'm dissatified with my job. Is there a support group for people like me?' 'Yes, it's called everyone. We meet down at the bar.'"

    Prepandemic lots of people were considering changing jobs without doing it, for a myriad of reasons. While I have no doubt that there are more changes being made now than prepandemic, I seriously doubt that anywhere close to the kinds of numbers discussed are going to actually do it.

    For myself, my employer is offering a bonus if we remain through October, for everyone that was employed prior to March 15 or thereabouts of 2020. They announced this only fairly recently in part because of the budgeting and red-tape involved, but I have no intention of changing jobs before then, and on top of that the director of my department is both allowing us to work from home if our duties allow and is helping to create policy for the organization as a whole.

    • Your comment only makes sense if the report doesn't show a far higher propensity to leave than was the case pre-pandemic. If however the statistic is a measure that has shifted over time, then your dismissal is ill grounded.

    • Lots of people are dissatisfied with work. There's an old joke that goes something like, "'I'm dissatified with my job. Is there a support group for people like me?' 'Yes, it's called everyone. We meet down at the bar.'"

      Wait, which bar? I'll be there in 30. Never mind that it's 9:30 AM, I'm already on my fourth meeting today which means it's afternoon.

      Prepandemic lots of people were considering changing jobs without doing it, for a myriad of reasons. While I have no doubt that there are more changes being made now than prepandemic, I seriously doubt that anywhere close to the kinds of numbers discussed are going to actually do it.

      As others have written, 95% seems high. I mean, I'd like to be 3 star chef, I daydream about it on weekends. I'm not serious about it. No matter how appealing it sounds to quit and go backpacking, I'm not going to actually do it.

    • by cusco ( 717999 )

      Pre-pandemic I had actually intended to retire in April or May and then we would travel this summer, but now I'm staying at least into the fall when most people are vaccinated and things are closer to normal.

  • Not all devs... (Score:5, Informative)

    by jaamkie ( 2555134 ) on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @09:44PM (#61539170)
    If people are finding new jobs and happier for the change, great... But I'm sick of the endless articles implying that employees all have a strong preference for remote work, because it just isn't true. My office is open for voluntary visits, and we have some individuals showing up every day and teams clustering meetings for a mix of of in-person days vs. remote days. So far the vibe is happy and chill, people enjoying the social atmosphere and regaining some separation between work vs personal life.
    • Re:Not all devs... (Score:5, Insightful)

      by nehumanuscrede ( 624750 ) on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @11:59PM (#61539386)

      Okay, for those who DON'T:

      1) Have tiny infinite-energy-infused heathens who are out of school and driving you crazy
      2) Have significant others who think because you're home then you're available for projects

      It's awesome to work at home.

      For those who prefer to slog it out in traffic and sit in Cubicle Hell because it's better than sitting at home and dealing with your family . . . .
      I understand. . . .

      • by Bert64 ( 520050 )

        1) Have tiny infinite-energy-infused heathens who are out of school and driving you crazy

        Where do the kids go if you're working in an office? And why can't you send the kids there and stay at home yourself?

        The pandemic forced kids at home and work at home to happen at the same time for many people, but the two do not need to be. A lot of my colleagues worked from home before the pandemic, they would take their kids to school in the morning and then return home to work.

        The pandemic didn't introduce home working for them, but it did bring a lack of school which caused a disruption to their work.

        • Where do the kids go if you're working in an office?

          At our house.

          And why can't you send the kids there and stay at home yourself?

          They're already there.

          Some of us are still single-income households.

      • Sounds like you need a new wife.

    • Re:Not all devs... (Score:5, Interesting)

      by Opportunist ( 166417 ) on Thursday July 01, 2021 @02:19AM (#61539574)

      I can of course only talk for myself, and I am absolutely aware that I am probably not the standard case, but for me, that last year was one of the best in my life. I did not have to meet people. I did not have to leave my house. I could end every conversation by turning the pesky voice simply off instead of actually having to move.

      This is awesome.

      Yes, I enjoyed those last 14 months and I am absolutely devastated that they're coming to an end. My hope now is in the anti-vax and other conspiracy nuts to keep the infection rates up so I may get a few more months out of it.

      • I did not have to meet people. I did not have to leave my house. I could end every conversation by turning the pesky voice simply off instead of actually having to move.

        I don't think you're too unusual. Many people I work with are happy as clams (just why do we think clams are happy?) staring at Code all day. I love that too.

        OTOH, it's driving me nuts that Bob/Hema and I can't duck into a conference room and scribble things on a whiteboard. It's so much harder to collaborate on-line versus face to face.

        Now, if I could only convince my bosses that my team shouldn't be in California, Minnesota, North Carolina, Israel, and Bangalore, then we'll be making progress.

    • Absolutely. As soon as I can go back in the office I would as well. Just to catch up with people. That doesn't remotely mean that I prefer to be in the office. I'll probably show up for a few weeks and then go back to working from home.

    • Re:Not all devs... (Score:4, Interesting)

      by AmiMoJo ( 196126 ) on Thursday July 01, 2021 @04:15AM (#61539722) Homepage Journal

      It's going to vary from individual to individual, but I expect a lot of younger people will want remote simply because it's the only way they can afford to buy a house.

    • Yeah, I've found that I get much more work done in my office at work than I do at home and it's way easier to concentrate on it, meaning I also enjoy the work more when I'm at the office. If I had to start working remotely, then I'd start renting out a private work space and there's plenty of choice in my area.

      Then again my preference for working from the office stems partially from my employer being a tad old fashioned so doesn't set up open plan offices unless workers specifically request it. Because o
      • by jbengt ( 874751 )

        Yeah, I've found that I get much more work done in my office at work than I do at home and it's way easier to concentrate on it, meaning I also enjoy the work more when I'm at the office.

        I find just the opposite, I get much more work done at home.
        At home, I work when there's work - for the most part I can take breaks when I want and start early, finish late if need be, and only put the hours I actually work on the timesheet. And I don't feel like I have to look busy for the boss, but can work at my own pa

        • If you end up waiting for work to turn up and have managers constantly peering over your shoulder then that suggests your issues don't stem from having to work from the office, but rather that you've got terrible managers. Either not assigning work effectively or being over-staffed. I've got multiple things that I can work at any given time, with different levels of priority, so I don't have to pretend to be busy because there's always work to do. I come in, work whatever is the highest priority at the time
    • by jythie ( 914043 )
      Eh, sadly we are caught in constant waves of 'everyone likes X, no X is old, everyone likes Y, no Y is old, everyone likes Z', probably according to whatever some small group of currently in-vogue influencers like.
    • I don't get that implication from most articles. What I've been reading is that there is a large contingent that does prefer work from home, and this is notable because 18 months ago that wasn't really an option. People didn't even know it was possible.

      Plenty of people like the office and that's fine. I'm just sick of my company telling me that the ONLY place that a person can get good work done is in an office, particularly since my job as a programmer is 100% doable remotely. Even my meetings are better a

  • by Applehu Akbar ( 2968043 ) on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @09:49PM (#61539182)

    The way the economy is currently trending, fancy restaurants will have to restaff by offering waiters six figures plus a stock option and Silicon Valley class playthings in the break room. They will of course reprice accordingly, becoming even fancier.

    Non-fancy restaurants will fold and be replaced by marijuana dispensaries.

    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      Yeah, there is a rash of restaurant owners around here crying about how they can't compete with unemployment. Newsflash for those assholes: If you think unemployment pays too much, then maybe you should try going on it for a year.

      • by aergern ( 127031 )

        One thing most will not talk about is that there was a labor shortage for those jobs in 2018 and 2019. This isn't new and like in Mississippi where they yanked the Fed subsidy away from unemployment ... the jobless rate was WAY under the unemployment being paid. In other words, MS just has a problem with filling jobs that no amount of punching downward will fix. It's an excuse by GOP'ers to just be dbags.

        • Re: (Score:2, Interesting)

          by quall ( 1441799 )

          My local vineyard was looking for someone to pull inventory out of their reserve and stock shelves. Kind of like a stock-boy at a grocery store but for a winery. He didn't have a job and wanted $30/hour. This is in Ohio and the cost of living is pretty low here. The guy who owns the vineyard barely makes this much after quantifying his hours put in.

          In OHIO there is a requirement where you have to look for a job in order to keep receiving unemployment. So, people are asking for unrealistic pay in order to me

          • In OHIO there is a requirement where you have to look for a job in order to keep receiving unemployment. So, people are asking for unrealistic pay in order to meet that requirement. Companies are also competing against the government's bonus....

            This is also true in South Carolina. While required to fill out job applications, South Carolina lets you set your salary expectations and adds the amendment that a job offer can be declined on the basis that the company could not meet the salary expectation. The salary expectation needs to be within a range based off of previous salary. This helps ensure that the middle class doesn't start shrinking.

          • by jbengt ( 874751 )

            Companies are also competing against the government's bonus....

            The current bonus is $300 a week, equivalent to $7.50 an hour for a 40-hour week. Typical unemployment benefits are less than 50% of the person's previous earnings rate. So someone who was making $15.00 an hour before losing their job would be getting the equivalent of that in unemployment. Made sense before, in order to keep the economy going after the original cut-off date when so many restaurants and such were still closed, but will end

    • Considering the quality of some of those joints, that can only be an improvement.

  • by technomom ( 444378 ) on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @09:53PM (#61539194)

    95% is a big number, but I mean who doesn't think about leaving their job under even the best of circumstances?

    What was the number under the control?

  • by ThomasBHardy ( 827616 ) on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @10:03PM (#61539208)

    I work in development at a major firm. We used to be part of something very small, but kept being bought by progressively larger companies. At each stage, the team became more distributed. Many of us have been working from home for up to 15 years now, and the majority have been at it for around 7 to 10 years.
    Each company that bought us voiced concerns over our setup and it almost soured the deal a few times. But in each case it was just us after we were purchased, the rest of the company stayed the same office bound.

    The pandemic was barely a blip to our teams, productivity wise. Most of us were already used to living on chat and IP meetings when we needed to brainstorm. We may be the only team in the country that didn't miss a step. The company seems to be pretty cautious thus far about bringing the former office workers back to the office.

    The pandemic shows that it can be done and it can work. Sure, groups new to it had some bumps along the way during the transition, but that's to be expected. Now those bumps are behind us and hopefully everyone can see a new way forward.

    For me to return to an office based job, with the commute, expenses, necessity to live near the place (we're all spread out to wherever we feel like living now)... that would be soul-crushing.

    Any company wanting to compete for employee hires in the new world needs to get with the program. Workers who are able to do their jobs from home now know the reality is that it's not necessary to be in an office to get the job done, and it makes for a better and easier life for most.

    All those companies who talk about work/life balance... time to live up to it.

    • by Luckyo ( 1726890 )

      The problem here is that people who aren't coming back aren't the people who can work remotely. They're overwhelmingly people who cannot. You can't serve drinks, do assembly work or build houses remotely.

      In the past, such work was undervalued by the society, because previously it was the "degree" that determined value. But now that such front line workers have been effectively out of work for a while and many re-trained to do work like yours, there's going to be a massive oversupply of "I want to work remot

      • Do assembly work, serve drinks, build houses.

        Retrain as a software dev within 12-18 months.

        Yeah, sorry, no.

        Wouldn't worry too much here. Not every job applicant is actually valid competition for the others, even if they may be good enough to fill the statistics. I wouldn't worry too much above the above group if I was looking.

        Disclaimer: I was a dev for ~20 years, and doing IT management and hiring for not-quite-a decade now.

      • by jbengt ( 874751 )

        You can't serve drinks, do assembly work or build houses remotely.

        In the past, such work was undervalued by the society, because previously it was the "degree" that determined value.

        Skilled workers for house construction typically make a very good wage. Assembly workers in some fields do, also. And bartenders in upscale establishments make a great living after tips and taxes.

    • My employer wasn't really affected at all in terms of product development either and most of us work from the office. How? Because us engineers have our own offices, as in actual rooms with doors, rather than open plan ones and could thus come into the office no problem. The only change was fewer in-person meetings and having to stand in the doorway when going to talk to co-workers rather than entering their office. Had to re-arrange my office to make that easier, but that was just a half-day productivity l
  • by backslashdot ( 95548 ) on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @10:08PM (#61539220)

    Man, I did not know that my boss, who has never met me in real life, could fire me so easily and hire a cheaper worker from Romania instead.

    • If you really think meeting him in real life would have any effect on that, you either never worked in a large corporation where the boss you know has zero impact on whether or not you get fired, or worked for the average slave driver that doesn't give a fuck who you are, whether he never met you or knew your family from five generations ago.

    • by thegarbz ( 1787294 ) on Thursday July 01, 2021 @04:02AM (#61539708)

      Man, I did not know that my boss, who has never met me in real life, could fire me so easily and hire a cheaper worker from Romania instead.

      But can he? Does he have a business in Romania and the ability to manage an employee there? If so I suspect Romania matches your current timezone and you're Europe based, which means you are likely covered under employee protection laws of some kind and can't just be mindlessly fired too.

      People assume that just because the world is global that it's trivial to simply hire anyone from anywhere. That can't be further from the truth. Now if you already have an office in Romania and there's no reason your specific task should be done from the USA then yes you very well may be replaceable. But is that new? What part of that makes it a "great firing"? Just because you've never met your boss in real life (I haven't, not in the past 6 years) what makes you a risk of being replaced? Are you not providing value to the company, or is your value determined exclusively by shaking your boss's hand? If that's the case, finding another job may be a good thing for you.

      • by mjwx ( 966435 )

        Man, I did not know that my boss, who has never met me in real life, could fire me so easily and hire a cheaper worker from Romania instead.

        But can he? Does he have a business in Romania and the ability to manage an employee there? If so I suspect Romania matches your current timezone and you're Europe based, which means you are likely covered under employee protection laws of some kind and can't just be mindlessly fired too.

        People assume that just because the world is global that it's trivial to simply hire anyone from anywhere. That can't be further from the truth. Now if you already have an office in Romania and there's no reason your specific task should be done from the USA then yes you very well may be replaceable. But is that new? What part of that makes it a "great firing"? Just because you've never met your boss in real life (I haven't, not in the past 6 years) what makes you a risk of being replaced? Are you not providing value to the company, or is your value determined exclusively by shaking your boss's hand? If that's the case, finding another job may be a good thing for you.

        Further more, how will your boss deal with customers trying to leave because the service has gone down the shitter.

        I know a formerly, very well respected service provider that is having customer retention problems after "righshoring" to India. Not only are the customer having trouble understanding the service techs, the staff simply don't care. Most are already planning their next job (in India you must always be seen as moving, if only sideways) hopefully collecting a few certs along the way.

        Bosses, as opp

    • That's laughable. I've been hearing about the offshore boogeyman for years, and it's never happened even though offshore developers are often quite excellent now. There is still a shortage of talent.
  • It;s funny to watch management panic when they get trout-slapped by reality, and no way to gloss it over.

    Guess I'm lucky I've been working in the trades since the 1980's.
    You couldn't pay me enough to work in an office, my brain would fossilize.

  • by nehumanuscrede ( 624750 ) on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @11:55PM (#61539380)

    Many folks have a taste of not wasting 2-3 hours of their life everyday getting ready and slogging it out with traffic to get to and from a building somewhere.
    Once tasted, you will be hard pressed to entice them to return to the Cubicle and Traffic / Commute hell that was the normal pre-pandemic.

  • by Miles_O'Toole ( 5152533 ) on Thursday July 01, 2021 @03:30AM (#61539674)

    A slave revolt. Spartacus would be proud!

  • by Tom ( 822 ) on Thursday July 01, 2021 @04:22AM (#61539736) Homepage Journal

    I'm among the people who will not return to the office full-time. 1-2 days a week is the max I will tolerate, and if the company wants to force more on me, they'll have my resignation letter in their inbox.

    The main reason is that modern offices are complete shit. Open floor plans and other abominations that should've been aborted in their mother's wombs, shared desks, the whole MBA bullshit bingo suite.

    If you work with your brain, it is IMPOSSIBLE to get anything done in modern offices. I used to have proper offices with doors and all, either shared with one colleague or by myself. There you can work. When you need to focus, you can close the door and people understand that as a sign to not disturb if it's not urgent. You can send your phone to voicemail, turn of mail notifications and get some focussed work done for an hour or two.

    In the offices they offer now, that's impossible. Most of my colleagues in the last office before the pandemic brought headphones to listen to music, mostly to drown out the noise. Now, with people having enjoyed undisturbed home office work, I think most people simply realized how shitty their office environments really were - and why would you willingly return to a terrible place?

    If companies were smart, they'd fire the PHBs and MBA-know-nothings and consultant-idiots and build offices that people actually want to work in !

    • If the numbers in office fall a lot, and the chatterers cluster at one end, there's a fair chance that the workers will be able to concentrate more easily than in the past. But yes, it's going to be 'interesting'.

    • You and me both, except I have a solo office with a door. Still too many distractions - people coming in to chat and whatnot, often about nothing - plus I'm not doing a commute anymore. My home office is great. My monitors are bigger, my chair is nicer, and I have my dogs with me.
    • by cusco ( 717999 )

      I used to work in the AWS SOC, and it was the first time that I had seen an open floor plan that made sense. One person could say, "We had a bunch of NVRs go down in APAC, is anyone doing work there?" or "I'm going to be on this call with PDX50 for a while, someone else has to cover their alarms" and everyone knew what was up. That's a pretty limited example though, and the only one that I can think of in 25 years of office work.

  • by codeButcher ( 223668 ) on Thursday July 01, 2021 @06:37AM (#61539874)

    I'm one of the privileged ones that develops software and can do it from home.

    I've been freelancing in 2020 but found it difficult to get gigs during the lockdowns and the meltdown in the economy in my locale - a lot of smaller companies, that were my market, fell on hard times. So start of this year I've been interviewing for full-time positions.

    I got the impression that there was much demand in my locale for developers (larger teams as opposed to single-person gigs). Also, most of the positions were WFH. "We were already transitioning to remote work before Covid" was a refrain I heard more than once or twice.

    In the end I had 3 good offers in hand and opted for one that has ties with a large European company. (Only remote interviews, they even have laptops with cameras disabled for security, so it was more like a telephone conference.) We have to be remote-capable in any case because some of our team members sit on another continent. I surely find the WFH arrangement a perk (I live alone) and it will figure high in future work arrangements, as I like the flexibility in choosing where to live. Also, I love having the commute time available for weeding the veggies or go to the gym, etc.

    Looking at our Scrum board I don't think I'm unproductive (even if taking a break for /. :-) ). Scrum master already mentions how much gets done since me joining. (Just more hands, but still.)

    Other team members have already grumbled about not wanting to return to office. We seem to be doing just fine remotely. One person took off for his parents' home in another city when a fresh round of strict lockdowns was announced.

    Of course this gig also has the European work balance mindset. I can't even book overtime. So I rather don't work it. I like to spend some extra hours when I'm "in the flow" with a problem, so often by Friday afternoon I find my week's hours filled, so I log off and take off for a free afternoon.

    Summary: I think work in my domain is moving towards WFH, it will be a standard perk most companies will offer in the near future. And many that don't will find it harder to fill positions. And I'm all for it.

  • If employers think workers are more likely to leave, maybe they'll treat us better. Many have record profits and it's time to actually increase salaries for a change. Productivity has gone up steadily and so has profits while wages stagnated. I'd love to see my employer give out stock grant retention bonuses.

    Like others, I am skeptical about how many will actually quit. One threatens to quit a job many times before actually doing it...similar to divorces, going back to college, quitting smoking, los
    • Not gonna happen. The MBAs will say "If you ask for a raise and get it, you'll just ask for another one in the future! Now where's my bonus check?!".

  • One problem of a lot of low-paid jobs is that they suck up so much of a worker's time that they don't have any to spare for looking for a different job or getting the qualifications for a different kind of job. The pandemic gave them a time-out from work and free time to take classes and go looking for better-paid positions. It shouldn't come as any surprise then that many of them have _found_ better jobs and aren't going back to the old ones. Also, 600k+ deaths removed at least a few hundred thousand worke

  • Yeah, sure, I guess they still exist - but why would I trust a survey about the amount of people looking for work, from a recruitment company?

    This entirely stinks of opportunistic media behaviour to me - send out media missives that so many people are looking for work, based on an internal study - to drive traffic to Monster?

    I don't have the necessary understanding of what is happening in job sectors or countries other than my own - perhaps Monster.com is massive for some job roles?

    As a tech worker, I don't

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