Comment Re: Only the "flagships"? What a ripoff (Score 1) 58
Most budget phones you are used to buying are subsidized, either by your carrier, by the bundled crapplets, or both
Except that Motorola sells a huge range of phones with costs varying by more than a factor of 5, all with identical Android images and unlocked. The only difference is the hardware specs. The only possible way these phones are subsidized in a way the flagships aren't is if Motorola thinks of the entry-levels as a way to get customers "hooked" on the brand and start paying for the more expensive (and presumably higher-margin) flagships.
I have a Motorola Edge 60 Neo, it was a reasonably cheap phone at £300 when it was relatively new (I think it's around £250 now. I'm yet to find all that bundled crapware the GP speaks of... hell it didn't even come with Facebook. I've gone and disabled all the AI stuff so it's now a decent phone with quite good hardware for the 300 quid category.
I bought my mum a G56 and it was largely the same story, except no AI as that was an older and even cheaper model (about £150). She loved it as it weighed half as much as the ancient Samsung she was lugging around.
I'm not particularly brand loyal though, I previously bought Nokias (HMD Global) but nothing they make is remotely good any more.
What people forget is that hardware isn't particularly expensive when you're buying it in bulk, especially before the recent RAMAGEDDON (which makes the full 8GB in my 60 Neo even more amazing). So production of cheap and mid range phones isn't that expensive especially when you're not customising the software to the Nth degree to preserve your brand. Margins are probably razr thin on a sub £400 phone but they're not being sold as loss leaders in the hopes of selling £800 phones to people who want £200 phones... You deserve to go out of business if you think that'll happen.