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Apple Announces iPhone X With Edge-To-Edge Display, Wireless Charging and No Home Button (theverge.com) 570

At its event in Cupertino, California today, Apple unveiled the iPhone X to mark the 10th anniversary of the iPhone. It brings several new features including an edge-to-edge screen, Qi wireless charging, and Face ID. The Verge reports: Because of its edge-to-edge display, the iPhone has no place for a conventional home button, relying instead on a complex facial recognition system to unlock the phone. Called FaceID, the new system will replace TouchID, the home button sensor that's enabled fingerprint logins since 2013's iPhone 5S. Users can wake the phone by swiping up from the button instead of hitting the button. The same gesture will open the control panel once the phone is awake. The updated iPhone 8 will continue unchanged, including both the home button and TouchID. Apple also unveiled the iPhone 8 and 8 Plus, which are updated versions of the iPhone 7 and 7 Plus released last year. These new devices feature glass backs with support for wireless charging. The Verge provides some additional specs and features in its report: Apple has improved the display on the iPhone 8 line, adding the same True Tone technology it offers on the 10.5-inch iPad Pro to automatically adjust the screen based on the ambient light in the room to offer more accurate colors. Internally, Apple has upgraded the processor from the A10 Fusion found in the 7 to the A11 Bionic. It's a six-core chip with two performance cores that are 25 percent faster than the A10, and four performance cores that the company says are 70 percent faster that the old model. There's also a new Apple-designed GPU that's 30 percent faster, with the same performance as the A10 at half the power. On the camera front, there's a new 12-megapixel sensor on the iPhone 8 that is larger, faster, and finally has optical image stabilization. The iPhone 8 Plus also has new sensors, and offers f/1.8 and f/2.8 apertures now. The dual cameras on the 8 Plus also have a new "Portrait Lighting" feature to adjust the lighting for portrait shots. And Apple says that the improvements apply to video, too, with Apple executive Phil Schiller claiming that the new devices have the "highest quality video capture ever in a smartphone," with support for 4K/60fps video. Slow motion videos now support up to 1080p resolution at 240fps, doubling the the iPhone 7's 120fps option. The iPhone 8 will start at $699 for a 64GB model, while the 8 Plus will start at $799 for 64GB of storage. You can preorder these devices starting Friday, September 15th, and they will be released a week later on September 22nd.

UPDATE 9/12/17: The iPhone X will be priced starting at $999 for the 64GB variant. Pre-order will be available October 27th with shipments starting November 3rd.
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Apple Announces iPhone X With Edge-To-Edge Display, Wireless Charging and No Home Button

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  • Not want (Score:3, Insightful)

    by XXongo ( 3986865 ) on Tuesday September 12, 2017 @02:44PM (#55182379) Homepage
    No, I'm sorry, I don't really want a phone that starts up when it thinks it recognizes my face.

    I'd like a plain "on" button, thank you.

    • Re:Not want (Score:5, Insightful)

      by that this is not und ( 1026860 ) * on Tuesday September 12, 2017 @02:46PM (#55182395)

      But a phone that unlocks when it sees your face is one that the police can confiscate and unlock by simply aiming it at your face.

      Why wouldn't you want that convenience?

      • Re:Not want (Score:5, Funny)

        by HornWumpus ( 783565 ) on Tuesday September 12, 2017 @02:55PM (#55182457)

        Point it at your junk when it wants the reference picture. Duh.

      • Well it only works if your eyes are open so they can't mace you then try to scan you...
      • But a phone that unlocks when it sees your face is one that the police can confiscate and unlock by simply aiming it at your face.

        Why wouldn't you want that convenience?

        They addressed this in the presentation. You have to look at it with your eyeballs. As long as you look away with your eyes, it won't unlock.

      • by sehlat ( 180760 )

        But a phone that unlocks when it sees your face is one that the police can confiscate and unlock by simply aiming it at your face.

        Why wouldn't you want that convenience?

        I'd like to get some information on just how accurate that face-match actually is. For example, my beard length changes over several months until I trim it back for another crop. I'm also wondering just how many attempts before you have to type in your passphrase.

      • I've done nothing wrong.

      • How is that any different than the current t world where the police could compelled you to touch the finger print reader on your device?

      • Most likely it will be like previous versions that allow you to use a password (not PIN) to unlock your phone. Same with TouchID. Most likely same with this. No requirement to use it. it's up the user to choose between security and convenience.
      • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

        Gonna suck for identical twins too.

    • by jmv ( 93421 )

      Don't worry, they're already working on the next model that will remove the screen entirely and just do whatever you should want to do.

    • Re:Not want (Score:5, Informative)

      by Anubis IV ( 1279820 ) on Tuesday September 12, 2017 @04:05PM (#55183309)

      I get the point you're making, but it's worth pointing out for others that it doesn't just unlock when it thinks it sees you. Rather, it waits for you to focus your attention on it first. It's also worth mentioning that the false positive rate on Touch ID was 1 in 50,000, which was fine for the vast majority of their customers, whereas Face ID is 1 in 1,000,000. If you were already okay with Touch ID's level of accuracy, or else were on the fence before and just wanted it to be a bit better, Face ID may be the leap forward in accuracy that you wanted, even if it seems weirdly different at first glance.

      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        by fatwilbur ( 1098563 )
        I think what's far worse about it will be the battery impact from operating the camera the entire time the phone is on, or even with some logic, a good percentage of the time.
        • Re:Not want (Score:5, Informative)

          by Anubis IV ( 1279820 ) on Wednesday September 13, 2017 @01:03PM (#55188879)

          So, a few things:
          1) Their demonstration suggests it relies on accelerometer readings to know when to activate the sensor, since they had to raise the device before it started looking for faces. You can probably also click the power button to activate it, but either way, it doesn't appear to be always-on.

          2) From what we understand, it isn't using the camera to detect faces. Rather, it's using something more akin to the Kinect, since it's projecting 30,000 IR dots and then sensing them via a basic IR sensor to create a 3D mesh.

          3) Even if raising it isn't necessary to trigger the sensors, if the accelerometer is telling it it's stationary, it can stay off 99.9% of the time and just do a quick IR pulse every fraction of a second to see if anything's moved. Likewise, if the proximity sensor is telling it it's in a pocket or pressed to your ear it can stay off 100% of the time.

          4) Even if it is always-on (which, again, it doesn't appear to be), they're claiming it gets 2 hours better battery life than the iPhone 7, so they must have figured out some way to optimize things.

  • they brought back the headphone jack, right? Because they were able to jam so much other new things why not also find the room for something that caused much consternation last time around? It's only right to confirm their commitment to the consumer and are willing to admit they made an error in removing it, right?


    • by wed128 ( 722152 )

      they're just not that brave.

  • FaceID seems like a change just for changes sake, and I'm skeptical about their claims about it being more secure.
    • by HannethCom ( 585323 ) on Tuesday September 12, 2017 @02:57PM (#55182489)
      The funniest thing was them trying to show it off working on stage, and it failed asking him to use his PIN instead because face recognition failed.
      • Re:FaceID FAILURE!!! (Score:4, Informative)

        by Dixie_Flatline ( 5077 ) <vincent DOT jan DOT goh AT gmail DOT com> on Tuesday September 12, 2017 @03:17PM (#55182771) Homepage

        Face recognition didn't fail, they didn't unlock the phone when it woke up, just like with Touch ID. You have to provide a passcode after the phone has been turned off and on.

      • While there was a gaffe with that demo, it actually wasn't a problem with Face ID. Rather, whoever was prepping those iPhones didn't do something they should have done, which resulted in the presenter triggering a standard security mechanism that everyone who uses Touch ID probably recognized immediately.

        As a security precaution, iPhones are currently designed to require that the user enter their passcode instead of using Touch ID:
        1) Every time the iPhone is restarted.
        2) If it's been more than a week since

  • It's official (Score:5, Insightful)

    by JohnFen ( 1641097 ) on Tuesday September 12, 2017 @02:51PM (#55182425)

    The smartphone market is officially mature, as indicated by the fact that even Apple can't come up with anything other than incremental improvements and gimmicks.

    • by enjar ( 249223 )
      but ... SUPER RETINA DISPLAY. It's SUPER. So SUPER you will rush out and buy one. Hopefully.
    • The smartphone market is officially mature...

      Actually, no. We've just gotten to where things get interesting... Android/Linux passes Microsoft on the internet [statcounter.com] and just keeps going. Apple a distant third in that race.

  • All the things Samsung has had for awhile. My wife has been using that feature for months. I think I remember Apple fanboys dismissing the edge to edge display. But since it's Apple, it's cool now. I honestly don't mind companies adding features from their competitors, but it's the "Since it's Apple, it's awesome!" attitude. Apple is temporarily on par with Samsung.
    • Samsung, lg, asus, name it, every android phone the last 2 years?

    • by HannethCom ( 585323 ) on Tuesday September 12, 2017 @03:01PM (#55182559)
      I have seen the Samsung edge to edge technology, and it is truly edge to edge. I just saw the iPhone X, and there is a definite bezel. It is a wrapping around piece of glass, but there is black between the screen and the side of the glass, so not a true edge to edge, even though they are using a Samsung display.
  • by known_coward_69 ( 4151743 ) on Tuesday September 12, 2017 @02:55PM (#55182453)


    Why is it so cheap? Hoping it was at least $3000 so the peons couldn't afford one

  • I didn't see the unveiling, but I'm wondering how they're going to protect against someone coming up to you, while you've got your head down playing Candy Crush, and just holding a Square ApplePay pad to your phone trying to make a $500 transaction. Up until now, with TouchID, you'd have to be holding a registered finger on the home button, but it would authorize the transaction in less than a second. Is FaceID just going to approve it if your face happens to be in front of it?
    • You have to be actively paying attention, apparently—CFed demoed that. You also have to have your eyes open.

    • by the_skywise ( 189793 ) on Tuesday September 12, 2017 @03:14PM (#55182733)
      You've got the double press the power (now the "selector"?) button to enable ApplePay now and they've probably disabled the auto-detection. If anything your scenario is more likely now with TouchID. My main issue with it is that it's not as seamless as using ApplePay with TouchID. Pull the phone out of my pocket, move the iPhone to the reader, wait for the iPhone to detect the reader and the card to appear and press the home button to confirm Now i've got to pull the phone out of my pocket, hold the phone to my face, double click the button and move the phone to the reader and then wait for the iPhone to detect the reader and hope that it detects my reader and not the one next to it as I move it over.
      • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

        It's gonna be funny watching people try to hold the phone to the terminal and get their face in view at the same time.

  • Phil Schiller claiming that the new devices have the "highest quality video capture ever in a smartphone."

    Phil Schiller fills us with shilling.

  • Have almost all these new technologies with better display. .. except for face unlock, which I don't know if it's a valuable option?

  • Both the iPhone and you after you buy it.

  • another glass back that will look ridiculous in rubber armor.
  • Will unlocking a phone require that photos are uploaded to Apple cloud, or is it something that will stay on the phone only? Just curious - I don't plan on buying an iPhone X and will probably move back to Android after my sole Apple purchase, an iPhone 6s, dies.
    • Facial recognition doesn't take any photos, just like Touch ID didn't take an imprint of your finger. It converts it to a mathematical representation and does a comparison inside the Secure Enclave. The analysis it does is non-transferable.

    • "I don't have time to either read or watch the announcement, can you please answer my questions that are spelled out already"

      As described in the announcement, all facial recognition is done locally. Nothing touches a "cloud" server.

  • TrueDepth (Score:5, Interesting)

    by hackertourist ( 2202674 ) on Tuesday September 12, 2017 @03:24PM (#55182869)

    Here's hoping the face scanning technology becomes user accessible as a general-purpose 3D scanner.

  • Edge (Score:4, Insightful)

    by fluffernutter ( 1411889 ) on Tuesday September 12, 2017 @04:18PM (#55183431)
    With all these edge to edge displays, I hope they have technology that can prevent my phone from doing totally unpredictable things when I pick it up. Is that too much to ask for? This is a problem with my regular bezel edge phone, can't imagine what it will be like with an edge to edge phone.
    • can't imagine what it will be like with an edge to edge phone.

      Then just walk into a shop and try it. There's no problem with rejecting touches on the edge of the screen on the Galaxy S6 edge or any other edge to edge display built in the past 3 generations. It's one of those things that you think will be a problem because of your previous experience with a completely unrelated product. But the thing is, when people build something that actively causes a problem they also design engineering solutions for them.

      It's like watching people use the stylus on my Surface for t

  • by istartedi ( 132515 ) on Tuesday September 12, 2017 @06:12PM (#55184449) Journal

    Is that really display surface with a bite out of it on the X? What are you supposed to do with the two little devil-horns at the top? Ads I guess. Yeah, nevermind. Devil-horn advertising will be the hot new trend.

  • ComeFace (Score:5, Funny)

    by seoras ( 147590 ) on Wednesday September 13, 2017 @12:25AM (#55186009)

    "Set your Apple Face ID to your comeface, so that if someone mugs you for your phone they at least have to wank you off first" - Frankie Boyle [facebook.com].

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