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Comment Re:Expected /. response (Score 3, Insightful) 292

The simple problem is that telemetry has been overstated and overblown.

No, the simple problem is that the telemetry is mandatory. Microsoft could have provided a way to turn it all off, but did not. How much or little about me that is exposed by the telemetry is beside the point.

Comment Re:What the fuck (Score 1) 183

Because it's on a per login basis. Because one stop privacy shops are all the rage across companies. Because I want to do it once in one place not once on every damn device I own.

That's a fine reason to have the option to control these things through the cloud. It is not a reason to make the use of the cloud mandatory.

Comment Re:Why Microsoft wins (Score 1) 183

I suspect that the whole telemetry stuff is meant to give them information about how the system behaves in various situations for engineering purposes, not ads.

I don't really doubt this is the case. That doesn't make it OK, though.

Firefox has the same kind of telemetry features. Chrome too. And pretty much everything else. But when it comes from Microsoft people freak out first, ask questions later.

I don't use Chrome, but with Firefox, you can disable the telemetry. That's why I don't freak out about it: I just turn it off. Microsoft isn't giving us a "turn it off" option. That's why Microsoft is getting bashed over this.

Comment Re:The damage is done (Score 1) 183

I hear you -- Microsoft has a long track record that justifies deep mistrust, and it's terribly hard to start trusting them now. Even if what they claim is true and you can stop Windows from phoning home entirely, the fact that they have jumped on this "constantly update" train means that you can't trust that Windows will always be so considerate.

Comment Re:About letting us choose everything? (Score 1) 156

The average user treats their computer as an appliance and don't know the difference.

True, but how is the relevant? It is entirely possible to cater to the "appliance" crowd while still allowing people who care about such things to retain control over their computer.

Besides, that wasn't the argument that I was responding to. The argument I was responding to was that letting users have control over their computers creates business difficulties. That may be true, but is a terrible argument. Why should being able to control my own property be restricted just because it makes someone else's business a little more problematic?

Comment Re:About letting us choose everything? (Score 2) 156

If most people are 2 years behind developers will have to target 10 different OS configurations instead of 2 (those who are on the latest and those who are deferred for a few months).

So the argument is that users should not have control of their own computers because it presents a business problem if they do?

I beg to differ.

Comment Re:Let's hope the Electoral College does their job (Score 2) 858

And no, he won't lose his supporters; we have no love for politicized science and the patron elite that rely on it to enforce their will

I am genuinely confused by this. If you have no love for politicized science and the patron elite, then why do you support Trump? He's been deep into both those things for a long time.

(I tried hard to find a way to ask this question without sounding like a troll. I hope I succeeded. This is an honest, and earnest, question.)

Comment Re:Good for them! (Score 1) 858

this is part of the spoils that the victor is entitled to.

Nobody in office is "entitled" to any spoils whatsoever. There aren't even any "spoils". The very idea that governmental departments and personnel are considered "spoils" is a huge part of the failure of the US political system. If Trump (or anyone in office) views things in terms of victors and spoils, then he is as much a part of the problem as everyone else.

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