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Comment Re:Start the clock (Score -1, Troll) 258

Why make this discussion worse and label smart people who question the impact of this as deniers, or worse?

Elsewhere in the thread someone says you can't dismiss the historical measurement adjustments (that make the warming trend seem larger) without examining those adjustments to see if they're correct. Shit, I have a science degree and I'm not prepared to do that. Sure, someone else probably has and there's more for me to read, but anyone not thoroughly obsessed with reading about climate science isn't going to know those or care to read about them. It;s complex stuff.

Why does this matter? Let's face it - the impacts of this to date are INVISIBLE. We're talking sub-degree temperature variations per year. I don't hear Africans complaining it's too hot, and if you didn't notice, we live on a very cold planet, and the vast majority of land mass suffers from long, cold winters. I don't care how much CO2 the atmosphere has, a large portion of our land isn't getting more than a few hours of sunlight per day for six months of the year, and that's the dominant temperature impact. All I hear is celebrities, Californians, Vancouverites, and other hippies screaming about a problem nobody can see or cares to dig into the volume of science that "explains" it.

Comment Re: But why? (Score -1, Flamebait) 336

Funny how people are more willing to work as wage slaves in shitty jobs that destroy the environment than they are willing to just accept a little help from the government.

In a heartbeat. I'd rather slave all day in a mine to earn a living than accept free handouts from the government (which are ultimately taken from someone else). And I have a feeling the world, and particularly the US, would be a much better place if this were the case.

Thankfully, I think you are the minority if you prefer to live off someone else's money and work. For a good example, read up on history of the Great Depression and how people were desperate for any kind of work to avoid being "on the dole".

Comment Re: human race wiped out? (Score 1) 364

All those folks in California so scared about the earth getting warmer (they seem overly scared about everything these days), don't realize just how cold our planet is. Where I live, it's been below freezing for months and largely will be until next May.

In fact, last week, it was colder here than on Mars and parts of an asteroid belt.

We have a long, long way to go to being a warm planet.

Comment Re:Ob. xkcd (Score 1) 978

Fair enough, but this principle is not evenly applied in our society. It's ok for the insurance company to charge me higher premiums because I'm a male, but it's illegal to not rent your apartment to a black person (and you can easily produce statistics that a black person is more likely to be convicted of a crime). Extreme examples, yes, but there are many more.

Comment Re:Is this from The Onion? (Score 1) 284

I'll tell you what I do understand - I don't trust the UN or the politicians involved one damned bit. When this is being run by an organization so political it refuses to authorize journalists who don't subscribe to their group think, and the ultimate goal is to figure out how deep they can reach into your wallet, people ARE IN THE RIGHT to be skeptical of this. When you call people stupid and stand on your high horse, they end up voting for Trump because personally, Trump seems a far better choice than standing with these self-righteous douchebags.

The reporting organization linked above is definitely a "right wing" publication that has been critical of climate change based tax regimes. I don't agree with most of what they say, but when people won't stand up or protect their right to say it, those people have lost their principles anyway, so best case is they're not the ones to listen to in solving this problem.

Comment Re:Numbers (Score 1) 426

Yes, tax your high wage earners into oblivion for earning and consuming, the foundation of what people consider quality of life. The group that includes a few very rich people but mostly your well trained specialists, experts, small business owners and investors, and watch them flee to another country. Sorry, you need to be more competitive in your tax regime, the world is too mobile now.

Your utopia of controlling what people earn is a bad idea.

Comment Re:You are entering a carbon-friendly area (Score 1) 693

No! This general disbelief in society is the right behaviour and to be encouraged. Hear me out.

Climate is complex, and what is really happening is people are being skeptical of government and rich people trying to convince them of something they don't fully understand. Millennials seem to be more quick to jump to trust the government and celebrities, but being skeptical is the right approach, especially when someone wants in your wallet without actually explaining anything about how we fix the problem. Carbon taxes are the prime example. So taxes go up - any reasonable person is wondering just how that reduces their use of gas or anything other than making someone else rich.

And sorry, doesn't science involve something about verified experiments with repeatable results? Isn't that at the core? How is that possible with ANY climate model that has been put forth? I'm not saying they're totally wrong - they're just guesses, and you CANNOT SAY with a straight face they may be completely wrong either way as we don't fully understand the variables. Plenty of reasonable (sounding anyway) evidence (ice ages) of recent significant climate changes without man, so when people are dismissed as stupid they become more skeptical. As they should be.

Comment Re:Is this the same "One Decade" we were promised. (Score 1) 357

So what's "noticeable"? The problem is that the changes occur so slowly we aren't likely to notice.

I live in a major city - we had our first major snowfall over two weeks ago and temperatures have been at or below 0C for nearly a month. There are still THOUSANDS of kilometers of land (many million square km) between me and the north pole, btw. Also, this snow cover will likely last until next May (8 months out of the year).

What does this mean? We are still largely a cold planet. Most of the rabid AGW activists seem to live in California where it's warm all year and perhaps a slowly rising ocean is a threat. Sucks for them, the rest of the world has to put up with long harsh winters. A warming trend seems like a good thing, and if you're telling me I'll live to see a point where we don't have winter like conditions for over two thirds of the year, we're all just going to laugh.

Comment Re:The house always wins (Score 1) 843

Not defending Trump here, but I think the primary reason is he invested heavily in gambling-mecca-hopefuls like Atlanta and New Jersey. These turned out to be bad bets for a lot of people, as these places couldn't compete with Vegas.

As the industry suffered in those places, the long term valuations of those places would be written down quickly, so it's really not surprising to lose $1B when marking down assets of those size.

Comment Re:Prepare to be (Score 1) 532

Agree, but consider this: the Big Bang is generally accepted amongst the scientific community, so does that event not imply there is some natural process through which energy is created from (seemingly) nothing?

I know it's a crazy concept, but I also vehemently disagree with the folks here saying this is impossible due to current "laws". Imagine, a process discovered in which we could create energy, or observe energy being created. This would redefine what we think about the universe, and particularly, interstellar travel.

Also, a Dyson sphere would become a useless device, as why would you need to harvest energy when you can simply create it?

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