Twitter Bans Climate Change Propaganda Ads as Deniers Target Platforms (washingtonpost.com) 216
Twitter is banning advertisements that promote climate change denial in an effort to curb the reach of groups seeking to downplay the extent of the environmental crisis. From a report: Under the new policy, advertisements that contradict the "scientific consensus" on climate change will be prohibited along with other types of banned-ads such as campaigns that contain violence, profanity or personal attacks. Twitter will be relying on reports from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, a unit within the United Nations, to inform its decisions about which advertisements break its rules, according to the company. "We believe that climate denialism shouldn't be monetized on Twitter, and that misrepresentative ads shouldn't detract from important conversations about the climate crisis," the company said in a blog post. "We recognize that misleading information about climate change can undermine efforts to protect the planet."
Elon couldn't come sooner (Score:2, Insightful)
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You mean the guy who sells both BEVs and carbon credits? Gotta give him props for profiting from both sides of an issue. The man is a true Ferengi.
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The carbon credit system was designed so that they could be sold. It would be a hard sell for a publicly traded corporation to refuse to selling their excess carbon credits. If you are going to hate the guy then at least be logical about it.
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It's a private company and can do what it wants.
This is true regardless of who owns it.
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Because when there's +95% consensus, the other 5% are 100% wrong?
Scientific consensus is far different than social consensus.
Re:Elon couldn't come sooner (Score:4, Informative)
We know the smoking is bad for a good 60 years or more, but some part of society still smokes. Climate change is even worse than that because there is no immediate observable cause and effect.
Re:Elon couldn't come sooner (Score:4, Insightful)
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It means that we KNEW the situation.
If we, collectively and politically, choose not to act effectively to mitigate the very serious problem, the fact that our best way of knowing (the body of science, rated appropriately by internally assessed scientific credibility) KNEW the situation means that we cannot claim we failed to act due to being unaware of the problem.
It means that inaction, or inadequate a
Re:Elon couldn't come sooner (Score:5, Interesting)
Scientific "consensus" isn't a consensus about *truth*. It's a consensus about *burden of proof*, and it is encapsulated by Carl Sagan's aphorism, "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence."
The scientific consensus on climate change is the best place to start planning public policy from, not because it is *true*, but it is the view of matters that is most supported by evidence. Of course policy has other dimensions: economic, social, customary, and legal. So it's not like "CO2 is a problem so we should ban all fossil fuels." If you could get *everyone* to agree on anthropogenic climate change, that's still not something that would happen.
Still, I wouldn't be so pessimistic; the people who want *nothing* to be done about anything love to paint change as impossibly difficult and traumatic. Smoking is a great example. When I was a kid, 40% of Americans smoked; it was *everywhere* -- at work, in restaurants, on public transit. Now only 14% of people smoke, and they largely do it in private. It's gotten so that when somebody who's a heavy smoker walks past you you notice.
No, public education on the science of smoking did not stop *everyone* from smoking, it only resulted in a 65% reduction in smoking and a disappearance of smoking from most public spaces. That's actually a big accomplishment. And it hasn't really been that painful; people adapted; even smokers.
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Re:Elon couldn't come sooner (Score:4, Insightful)
When someone talks about "scientific consensus", they are not talking about science.
When someone talks about scientific evidence, they are talking about science.
As Einstein said, "If you can't explain it to a six year old, you don't understand it yourself." And climate science is much simpler than general relativity.
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Scientific consensus happens when the vast majority of scientists agree on the scientific evidence.
The consensus among scientists that stars are powered by fusion comes from all the evidence of fusion happening in the interiour of stars, even though no one has gone to the centre of a star and observed fusion happening. There is also still a lack of consensus in the type of fusion that dominates our Sun's fusion process.
If someone wants to argue that a different process powers stars, they are going to need e
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Really? It's not just hydrogen fusion? I ask because the sun is made mostly of hydrogen.
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Mostly hydrogen is the key. The carbon acts more like a catalyst in the sense of not being consumed in the cycle. Description here, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org] where it says it is more common in stars 1.3 times the Suns mass. Somewhere I was reading a good argument that the CNO cycle is more important in the Sun then commonly accepted. Not being an expert, I still find it interesting and an example of how what is commonly accepted might be wrong
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Don't be too harsh on those 60+. They have been duped by the government far too often to have anything but a cynical mindset.
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It's a lot higher than 5% in the general population, especially in misinformed countries such as the USA, Russia and Saudi Arabia.
But it's much less than 5% in the scientific community.
Scientists contradicting the norm don't get cancelled. On the contrary, they're being given shitload of money from the oil and gas industry. Even the industry itself agree with the scientific consensus*, but by giving money to these "scientists" they bought themselves a couple more decades. Buying politicians (again, especial
Challenging consensus is the core of science (Score:3, Insightful)
Because when there's +95% consensus, the other 5% are 100% wrong?
Scientific consensus is far different than social consensus.
No, it is not, it is somewhat similar. Scientists are people and they can have the same financial, political, philosophical, religious, etc biases are everyone else. Look at the history of the "big bang theory", the cosmological theory of the origin of the universe. This theory was opposed by the leading scientists of the day for literally religious reasons. The theory, in their opinion, too closely matched the biblical story of genesis, and with the physicist who proposed the theory being a member of the c
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Because when there's +95% consensus, the other 5% are 100% wrong?
Scientific consensus is far different than social consensus.
No, it is not, it is somewhat similar.
If you can upset the scientific consensus by discovering a new theory which better matches observations then you stand a good chance of a Nobel prize or something similar, maybe patents, spin-outs, promotions, etc. If you challenge the consensus socially then, even if right, your reward can be marginalisation, imprisonment more than it is Nobel prizes. Sure, occasionally you might get to be President of your country after decades of imprisonment, but it's rather less common. There are only a few instances i
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Scientific consensus is far different than social consensus.
No, it is not, it is somewhat similar.
No it isn't.
Any amount of scientific consensus can be changed by evidence.
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Sort of... But only sort of.
Could Newton's laws (at human scale) be overturned? Not really no, because there is a vast amount of evidence for them. The most you would get is a correction in certain regimes, not a complete replacement (well that's what happened with relativity in essence). The old evidence isn't going to suddenly vanish.
And even if you think they could in theory completely overturn it, would you bet money on that happening?
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There is no proof in science, it's a math thing to have proof. The consensus among scientists is that the Sun shines due to nuclear fusion, but it hasn't been proven and there's the electric universe guy who argues otherwise. Due to the consensus, the electric universe guy is going to need a lot of evidence for why his theory is a better match to reality.
Sometimes the theory with the most consensus is shown to be wrong, usually when a prediction doesn't work out.
An example was the Ether theory which made pr
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99.999% is not proof as there is still that 0.001% chance that it was wrong. It's accepted as correct until/if conflicting evidence shows up. Sometimes like Newton's stuff is still good enough to send a craft to Neptune even though it was shown to be wrong.
You are right that politics is different then science and unluckily they overlap too often.
Re:Elon couldn't come sooner (Score:5, Insightful)
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True point. Advertisers are guaranteed to have an agenda.
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I think twitter should be very reticent to delete posts but declining paid ads strikes me a bit different. If you're taking money to promote an idea, you're not just serving as a medium for communications, you're a paid spokesman for that message.
I was admittedly uneasy about this ban... but that's actually an interesting point.
I wouldn't go so far as to say as to call the host a "paid spokesman" (or even spokesperson), after all I'm sure no shortage of Democratic politicians have bought ad time on Fox News. But I think hosting an ad does imply a certain level of endorsement that the advertiser is a credible entity you should pay attention to, and it's fair that Twitter doesn't want to give that endorsement to climate change deniers.
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I think twitter should be very reticent to delete posts but declining paid ads strikes me a bit different. If you're taking money to promote an idea, you're not just serving as a medium for communications, you're a paid spokesman for that message.
I was admittedly uneasy about this ban... but that's actually an interesting point.
I wouldn't go so far as to say as to call the host a "paid spokesman" (or even spokesperson), after all I'm sure no shortage of Democratic politicians have bought ad time on Fox News. But I think hosting an ad does imply a certain level of endorsement that the advertiser is a credible entity you should pay attention to, and it's fair that Twitter doesn't want to give that endorsement to climate change deniers.
That example is a bit too apples and oranges. Fox is broadcast and there are rules they have to follow for political ads, like equal time to both parties. Political ads are also regulated and must have disclaimers, political advertisement paid for and approved by so and so. Then a network will sometimes add their own disclaimer, like such and such network doesn't necessarily endorse or share the views in the following paid programming. They don't have to run ads for political issues. Which is why you m
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Copernicus and Galileo .... (Score:2, Insightful)
Geocentric vs heliocentric models for the Earth come to mind. It wasn't just religion but primarily the SCIENCE of the day causing persecution for Galileo, echoing Copernicus's discovery that the Earth revolves around the sun instead of vice-versa.
And if you want to jump forward to much more recent times and "Green" related science? Let's talk about that oxygenated (ethanol mixed) gasoline the scientists claimed was better for the environment. Oops....
https://www.reuters.com/busine... [reuters.com]
Or how about this?
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Look at margarine vs butter. Or transfats which was suppose to be healthier than regular fats.
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There was no scientific consensus on the '80s food pyramid. It was bought and paid for by large food companies.
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Here in Canada, when the food pyramid was updated a few years back, industry (and the political opposition) acted like it was the end of the world to encourage drinking water instead of milk, etc. Huge political pressure to have a profitable food pyramid which likely would have won out if those companies were allowed to bribe the politicians like they are in America.
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If someone wants to post opinions about climate change that contradict the CURRENT theory? They should get their say.
Sure, so long as they provide evidence .
Re:Elon couldn't come sooner (Score:5, Informative)
Galileo didn't get in trouble for saying the earth was not flat, most scientists and the general population knew that the world was round. However he was supportive of heliocentricism which many in the church dismissed. The real problem was the paper he wrote defending heliocentrism that appeared to alsobe insulting to the Pope. Prior to this the Jesuits were on Galileo's side.
But you can still promote the idiotic denial of climate change on Twitter, you just can't do this with an *advertisement*.
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Why? Because when there's +95% consensus, the other 5% are 100% wrong? Where have I heard that before? Oh, I guess Earth is flat. Jail for you, Galileo! And what about papers like the recent one that found things may not be as bad as we thought they were? I guess Twitter doesn't want that paper on its platform, because? You guessed it. It's a private company and can do what it wants.
Back then, the catholic church was dogma and superstition, whereas Galileo was the scientific method.
Today, anthropomorphic climate change is proven by scientific methods, whereas conservative circles are pushing dogma and superstition.
It is right to defend society from the assholes that seek to impose their dogma and superstition upon us.
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Why? Because when there's +95% consensus, the other 5% are 100% wrong? Where have I heard that before? Oh, I guess Earth is flat. Jail for you, Galileo! And what about papers like the recent one that found things may not be as bad as we thought they were? I guess Twitter doesn't want that paper on its platform, because? You guessed it. It's a private company and can do what it wants.
Consensus among the scientific community is different...of course you know this but you would prefer to push your own agenda.
If 95% of the scientist involved in climate science agree, then yes, the other 5% are wrong until an alternative hypothesis is developed and proved. This won't happen.
Science is iterative and is built upon the foundations of previous work. There may be new findings that change our deeper understanding but it won't change the overall picture.
Also, citing a 'paper' without any reference
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If 95% of the scientist involved in climate science agree, then yes, the other 5% are wrong until an alternative hypothesis is developed and proved ...
No. The 5% are not wrong, they simply have a different opinion. Neither the 95% nor the 5% have proof, they just have their theories that differ in popularity, evidence that falls short of proof. Science need skeptics that double check and/or challenge the consensus. We f'd this up with respect to climate change by letting politicians get involved, by letting the politicians demonize the idea of not going with the consensus.
Science is iterative and is built upon the foundations of previous work ...
Yes, largely because there is no penalty for not being part of the consensus. Change
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Great argument...wheres the proof? We have volumes of climate change data that's reviewed by scientist all over the world. Where is all the evidence that scientists are involved in a global conspiracy and on the take? (We could call it 'climanon' LOL)
Wouldn't it be more likely that the folks telling you climate change isn't real are on the dole of oil companies...where all the money is?
PFFT
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Great argument...wheres the proof?
Compare predictions to data. We have 50+ years of predictions.
Determine the percentage of models used by climate scientists over the last 50+ years that have been found to be erroneous.
In short our understanding is still superficial to some degree, we are still learning the variables, the interactions, etc. We need to think like scientists, have an open mind. The 95% are the ticket punchers just trying to get enough papers published to get tenure. The real genius that develops the better and deeper un
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Galileo was not jailed. He was placed under house arrest at his Tuscan villa, continued his work, and received a steady stream of visitors, including his students from the university, which is not exactly the same as being in Leavenworth. He was also sentenced by Pope Urban VIII to read seven Psalms from the Bible once a week for three years (specifically, Psalms 6, 31, 37, 50, 101, 129, and 142). Get this: Galileo said that reading those Bible passages
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Why? Because when there's +95% consensus, the other 5% are 100% wrong?
Depends on the people Climate sceptics are not randomly spread through the population. When you analyse the distribution by general intelligence and those who use scientific methods the numbers are more like 100% and 0%
So no, the other 5% aren't just 100% wrong, they are also incredibly stupid. Galileo wasn't stupid. Quite the opposite.
Interesting how ever your attempt at whataboutism didn't make a counterclaim to climate change, just that "things may not be as bad". You guys are getting comically desperate
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Because when there's +95% consensus...
That "+95%" number is a hoax. [fraserinstitute.org]
It's a private company and can do what it wants.
Sure, corporate blacklisting of unpopular viewpoints is dope today, but back when your side was trying to send people to jail [wikipedia.org] for criticizing Hillary Clinton all we heard from you was that corporations were not people and did not have rights.
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Why? Because when there's +95% consensus, the other 5% are 100% wrong? Where have I heard that before? Oh, I guess Earth is flat. Jail for you, Galileo!
Are you saying the deniers are all Gallileos?
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Why? Because when there's +95% consensus, the other 5% are 100% wrong? Where have I heard that before? Oh, I guess Earth is flat. Jail for you, Galileo! And what about papers like the recent one that found things may not be as bad as we thought they were? I guess Twitter doesn't want that paper on its platform, because? You guessed it. It's a private company and can do what it wants.
Nullius in verba [wikipedia.org] became a motto for that key historical insight.
What's difficult, really difficult, as it requires everyone to do some soul searching and take a long hard long look in the mirror, is that we know the brain is constantly being influenced according to natural bias mechanisms, not only for our survival, but just so we can make it through the day without having to make huge mental efforts over how to cross a road or how to drive a car, as these are all trained and automatic processes in the bra
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Why? Because when there's +95% consensus, the other 5% are 100% wrong? Where have I heard that before? Oh, I guess Earth is flat. Jail for you, Galileo!
That's so out of context i could easily accuse you of anything between severely mentally challenged and outright nefarious.
The notion of the flat earth was not based on science. In fact, (Greek) science has proven that the earth is round hundreds of years before the catholic church decided people should believe in a flat earth.
So the flat earth thing was purely a belief, not based on facts and forced on the flock.
It was a convenient 'truth', much like the belief that humans have no impact on earths climate
No worries (Score:2)
They all moved to Slashdot, as it seems.
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I'm willing to take money of denialists, anitvaxers, etc to promote their zany shit. Apply below. Sadly, as you say, the position is already filled.
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The problem is that "Y" and "Z" are lunatic's ravings, rather than actual objective arguments.
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Fossil fuels are healthy because they literally power the life you enjoy.
Same could be said about McDonalds.
So exactly who are they banning? (Score:2)
Now imagine if they banned all misinformation. No more politicians! Now more weather forecasters! Great times ahead!
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Shouldn't ban, just put a notice (Score:5, Interesting)
Banning just creates resentment and the Streisand Effect. Instead put a bright notice that it's likely misleading material and include a link to a rebuttal or alternative.
It's a good Streisand effect (Score:2)
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It's not obvious to most people, who don't [want to] know shit about shit.
Most people have no clue about AGW, not even one single solitary one. That's why the disinformation has been so wildly effective at spreading.
Don't ban it. (Score:2)
Just mark it with a big bold "This ad may be a scam." that's far more effective.
Re: Don't ban it. (Score:2)
Whew (Score:2, Interesting)
That's a relief, I was afraid the Arbiters of Truthiness weren't going to be on the job but yep - they're protecting us from all that icky nuance, debate, corrections, revisions, etc.
You know, because Science doesn't allow questions!
Wasn't it the first two or three IPCC reports that didn't include water vapor (the most potent warming gas in the atmosphere) AT ALL to much criticism?
So that criticism would be blocked, then?
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they're protecting us from all that icky nuance, debate, corrections, revisions, etc.
There's a lot of things to call two opposing sides talking about climate change, but "nuance" and "debate" are probably the words that describe them the least.
You know, because Science doesn't allow questions!
Since when is running adverts on Twitter "science"? Is a paper only peer reviewed after it gets an ad placement? Do you not get published in nature unless you're tweet about it first? Before angry-posting maybe consider that what you're saying is actually of zero relevance to the topic at hand.
Wasn't it the first two or three IPCC reports that didn't include water vapor (the most potent warming gas in the atmosphere) AT ALL to much criticism?
I'm pretty sure that back in 1990 when the first IPCC repo
stay away from political filtering (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:stay away from political filtering (Score:4, Insightful)
It is eventually counter productive for the cause.
Counterproductive to what cause? Do you suggest Facebook and Twitter would be so much better if the general discourse degenerated to the quality of a typical 4chan post?
There's nothing counter productive about filtering messages because like it or not there's a fuckton of outright morons in the world
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Would Truth Social run ads for Green Peace? I think not. The all sides argument is also bullshit. You mostly hear that among the dim witted and holocaust denial crowd.
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We live in a democracy
Who told you that? They lied to you.
We live in a democracy where everybody should be mature enough to make informed decisions and forming opinions.
What should be, ain't.
We need to see all sides and then decide for our selves what is right.
Most people know shit about shit, sorry.
If one does not believe in this principle any more, then democracy goes down the drain.
What democracy?
It is an arrogant attitude to treat the general public as stupid kids who need to be ``educated" or ``protected" from ``wrong" opinions.
You don't even know that the USA is an oligarchy [represent.us], as is the UK, and frankly most nations on the planet which are not something even worse. Now you want to be the arbiter of who has a valid opinion?
Education in the USA has been compromised to the point where democracy is not possible, even if we ever had it, which we never did. They set up the nation so that only landed white men, the same people
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Why not follow the money ? (Score:2)
I've heard rumors that the denialists are funded by Big Oil. Hey, just rumors, I have no proof. That theory goes like this: Oil companies seed rumor sites with denials, then they promote the concept (using $?) with high profile gossips, then the rumors spread organically around the globe.
That theory could be wrong. Another rumor claims that corporate lobbyists and the like are doing the same thing. Why? Companies that have energy costs already don't want to pay huge sums to reduce their carbon footprint. Th
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That may be true, but from where does big oil get its power?
Self-described "progressives" take more flights, fly more miles, and have higher carbon footprints than self-described "conservatives".
So the notion that climate change is caused by the non-believers, and the notion that big oil exists over the objections of the parties lead by righteous millionaires is folly, and no amount of sticking ones fingers in their ears is going to change that.
The climate may very well be changing, but there a few people i
How many times... (Score:2)
Fortunately! (Score:3)
Fortunately, Twitter will still have ads for airlines, automobiles, and other earth-harming products & services.
You can harm the earth, you just can't deny that the earth is being harmed.
Sounds sincere to me.
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Yes, well, no (Score:2)
"We recognize that misleading information about climate change can undermine efforts to protect the planet."
"We recognize that misleading information about climate change is politically incorrect and can undermine the value of our company."
Dang (Score:2)
I don't know what weird country this is now, but I want the one back where even deranged leftists hated what I said but would defend to the death my right to say it. Or claimed that they would, anyway.
Oh wait, that's when their ideas were on the outs, or at least not firmly in control. But now, well, bring on the jackboots (or the banhammer).
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>"Twitter is banning advertisements that promote climate change denial "
Twitter is banning anything that THEY BELIEVE is "climate change denial". Which is ANYTHING that goes against their narrative de-jour.
>"along with other types of banned-ads such as campaigns that contain violence, profanity or personal attacks."
Which is completely and utterly difference. But I guess, not in their minds.
>"We recognize that misleading information about climate change can undermine efforts to protect the planet.
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I find it absolutely appaling that a company that has a defacto near-monopoly on American public discourse
It doesn't. You're just confusing the fact that a vast majority of people prefer Twitter to the alternatives. Maybe ask yourself why that is.
No monopoly, clutch your pearls elsewhere (Score:2, Insightful)
I find it absolutely appaling that a company that has a defacto near-monopoly on American public discourse is explicitly taking its cues on restricting defacto 1st Amendment rights of American citizens and voluntary associations of American citizens from a foreign entity (the UN) whose leadership is composed of a fair portion of totalitarian one-party states with an explicit policy of undermining the United States.
I don't care for Musk very much, but I hope he buys that trash heap and turns every single one of its employees (from janitor to CxO) into unemployable beggars shitting on the streets of SF.
There's no social media monopoly. There are plenty of alternatives where you can spread whatever coal company falsehood you want to...it's just no one wants to be there with you. Fuck off with the insincere outrage and clutch your pearl necklace elsewhere.
I thought the right was all about being business friendly and into freedom of private enterprise. If you don't like Twitter, go to Truth Social, Gab, Parlor or whatever alternate dumpster fire caters to your needs. Go do something productive with you
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If you don't like Twitter, go to Truth Social, Gab, Parlor or whatever alternate dumpster fire caters to your needs. Go do something productive with your life.
Social media is a collective dumpster fire. If you use any of them for anything important you are a moron.
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> current readout on the AOC doomsday clock is
AOC said she was joking or speaking in a metaphorical style. If you include the original WITHOUT her follow-up disclaimer, you are giving misleading info. Do it right, be good, not a troll, shape up, improve yourself, you can do it! Wrong stuff is a dime a dozen.
(For the record, I'm against most banning and recommend a notice with alternative links instead.)
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Do it right, be good, not a troll, shape up, improve yourself, you can do it!
His username *is* "RightwingNutjob", so ... :-)
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> current readout on the AOC doomsday clock is
AOC said she was joking or speaking in a metaphorical style. If you include the original WITHOUT her follow-up disclaimer, you are giving misleading info. Do it right, be good, not a troll, shape up
So pointing out AOC said this but she was just kidding and did not mean it, besides it also being demonstrably untrue, should be allowed then?
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> current readout on the AOC doomsday clock is
AOC said she was joking or speaking in a metaphorical style. If you include the original WITHOUT her follow-up disclaimer, you are giving misleading info.
By that logic, Trump was correct since he said both sides often.
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Wow, you really earned your username with that one... :-)
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Twitter does not have a "defacto near-monopoly on American public discourse." Approximately 22% of Americans participate in Twitter. Approximately 80% of Tweets are generated by the most prolific 10% of Twitter users. Twitter is mostly a few loud actors making performative noise into the void. There is no "defacto 1st Amendment right" associated with Twitter, in that none has been established in law, nor has an appropriate court determined that such a right exists in law.
If you dislike Twitter so much, mayb
The world will certainly not end in 8 years (Score:2)
Nobody said the world will end in 8 years including "AOC". But just because the world is not going to end, does not mean we should not do something. If I took a shit on your bed everyday, the world would not end, but you would probably want to do something to keep that from happening.
As a side note, I do not understand why you right wing nut jobs are so obsessed with AOC. She has relatively little influence on policy, yet she lives rent free in your heads permanently.
No one is saying that (Score:5, Insightful)
Literally no one is claiming that this will solve climate change. Just like no one claimed that banning cigarette ads would cure cancer. But even a small step in the right direction is better than nothing.
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Imagine if, back then, they had banned all mention of cigarettes posing a health threat.
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> Truth isn't a binary thing of "everything this team says is true, anything that team says is false".
Two competing hypotheses:
1) they're trying to promote the Truth and failing because they're dumb.
2) they're effectively promoting the globalist NWO [twitter.com] agenda as every President from Bush I to Biden has explained.
Heaven help those who are keen on seeing the edges of the Sahara revegitating due to stoma contraction. More arable land doesn't help with tax revenues that much.
Re:I get what they're trying to do, but (Score:4, Informative)
Their ultimate source of truth is the same UN which issued a report saying San Francisco will be underwater by - a few years ago.
Out of curiosity, which report? I searched for "UN report san francisco underwater" but after 5 pages of non-hits I gave up looking.
There was one story https://abc7news.com/un-climat... [abc7news.com] which was a 2021 IPCC report predicting 2-5ft rise by the end of the century, and a person from the San Francisco Estuary Institute explaining what would be the impact of such a rise would be to the Bay Area shoreline. But that's entirely different from what your characterization so presumably you're thinking of something else.
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I get what they're trying to do. They are trying to be good guys. They've fallen into the same trap many people fall into. Thinking that ANYTHING said by anyone on your favorite politiball team is gospel truth.
This drives me crazy. Someone last week told me that you can't be a good person if you vote for the other party. Something is wrong when you make it into a team sport.
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If you vote Democrat you are voting against yourself and your fellow middle class citizens and also the lower class.
People can always justify their dumb ideas, and you are no exception.
If you want to be scientific, you need to look for ways to test your hypothesis. That is, search for reasons you might be wrong.
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Their ultimate source of truth is the same UN which issued a report saying San Francisco will be underwater by - a few years ago.
btw, do you have a link to this?
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It is scientific consensus that the world will not end because of climate change. It is scientific consensus that civilization will not end because of climate change.
Re: Probably thinking of the wrong ban (Score:2)
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The world would certainly be better off without humans on it, though.
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Moving Goalposts, Strawman, Red Herring, Dog Whistle.
Congratulations, I think you almost have bingo.
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Think of it this way. Twitter is a bakery and climate denial ads are a gay wedding cake.
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You're asking if, completely of their own free will, wealthy Democrats are going to give equal time to a position that they abhor?
Gosh, you know, I'm not psychic but I'm going to say, uh ... no.
I like to think that there's no such thing as a stupid question, but ...