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Comment Re: Misleading way to phrase this much? (Score 1) 93

If the point is to prove that the system is vulnerable, publishing the vulnerabilities defeats the purpose because the vendor will simply patch those vulnerabilities.

https://www.cisa.gov/about

The entire reason that agency exists is to help secure our infrastructure and coordinate with the public. Or do you see something in their mission about privately discovering vulnerabilities for politics.

If the point is to score political points for the party in charge, it's probably illegal for a federal agency to do that bud.

Comment Re: One Man's Spy.... (Score 2) 21

a group that advised Saudi organizations, including the kingdom's social insurance agency

Or JFC guys, maybe he's just a shady hedge fund advisor. Which would explain _everything_, including the level of competence displayed.

But that's a boring story, so let's call him Mohamed Al Bond and make up a better one.

Comment Re: Intellectual Property is dead. (Score 1) 21

Yes, and I have as much control over IP I produce as I ever have? Which is to say it's complex, but not something I fret over, and who does exactly. Why are we clutching these pearls now, it seems odd from this community, where things like abolish software IP used to get +5 Insightful. Nothing changed with IP law, the application of it, or the resulting effects. You have this badass reverse engineering tool, and I could get +5 Godlike here by saying you shouldn't use tools to understand other people's codes guyz, it's immoral and the tools were built using forbidden knowledges. Wtaf happened.

Can the folks that are not working IT professionals shut up about this stuff already? Your only connection to reality on the ground seems to be when Linus talks about his day, literally. Professionals use AI every day now, to produce the same proprietary code you hate with all its IP protections, to produce open source material with the same copy left protections and to reverse engineer and hack all of the above like any other Tuesday. AI is a tool, get over it.

Comment Re: prosecute OpenAI for this (Score 1) 55

PROSECUTED for creating the opportunity for this to happen

You can't write three paragraphs on why something is dishonest hyperbole then pivot right to charges for allowing it? what? to happen. It didn't do the things they say it did.

You can't have both. You guys are weird. Anything under the umbrella of AI safety and alignment "research" is practically a cult. The anthropomorphizing is one facet of it, they believe some AI god will take form. Do not rationalize them as crash test safety engineers. These folks are saying things like by sending the car into a wall at high velocity with no choice it decided to preserve its course of action and eject the occupants into oncoming traffic, that we made sure was just within reach of the test site, and it didn't even ask why the brakes weren't working or how the passengers felt, the car is misaligned with human values!!!11 The reason it seems to conflict with your senses is because of the cult logic. Cars can be unsafe, and you can distrust them, but when you all pick up on the bullshit, I can't believe they are anthropomorphizing cars, then follow with, they're letting cars murder people, you're being idiots.

AI "alignment" is a doomsday cult. The guy holding the end is near sign is starting dumpster fires. I'm just saying I get why you can agree with him that the world is shitty, but also don't take the guy who is setting dumpster fires word for it.

Comment Re: I mean, yeah (Score 1) 45

Dude it's a cult. That human values, alignment, self improving crap comes directly from the AI alignment and safety cult that OpenAI and Anthropic and others are full of. It's where all the conflicting messaging comes from, all the accusations of Altman saying one thing doing another comes from those folks that are concerned he isn't drinking the right amount of koolaid. They believe AI will become a god, and only they can be trusted to build it.

OpenAI and Anthropic are full of them. Anytime you see some "AI safety researcher" quit all huffing and puffing out the door, it's one of those people causing drama. Anthropic was started by folks from OpenAI that reaaaaaly drank the koolaid, see the inviting religious leaders, the don't hurt the AI feelings stuff, the constant drop of the AI is conscious, etc.

They're fucking nuts, and any accidents that come out of an "AI safety" lab at any of these companies deserves heavy squinting. Making a point by any means and generating scary headlines is their entire goal. And yes, it does seem to conflict with the company's mission. Until you understand these companies are full of people that sincerely think the mission is only they can be trusted in the race to build AI god.

So, anyway, outside of that, I'm not saying standard internet safety stuff isn't warranted. Some auditing and reporting thresholds, know your customer, age regulation, they're worth looking at, just filter out the AI safety nuts because that whole field isn't what it looks like.

Comment Re: "aligned with human values" (Score 1) 45

What does that actually mean, a kebab shop on every corner (yay), or more abortion restrictions, sin taxes, dry counties, blue laws like can't buy a car on a Sunday, can't buy wine before 10am, can't look at a beer after driving west past the third armadillo cause law and order Jesus says so, posted in every classroom?

You're afraid of there was another religion at the table all your stupid religious laws might have to go, I'm calling it. Big talk from Texas politicians, not a lot of legislating cause it might cut a little close to home huh, fucking hypocrites.

Comment Re:--depth 1 (Score 1) 107

The major difference is that scion is not decentralized. A major problem that Scion introduces is that you can't properly sandbox a development environment

A sandboxed development environment still has access to a git remote to pull and push branches, how else would they work? If you're going to wave hands and say that's different, you literally have no clue how access controls on this scion thing works.

If you actually airgap development systems, what are you even talking about, like mount a read only copy of the code in a container, then scrape the ephemeral storage layer off from the outside as you tear it down? Then the system preserving your hypothetical airgapped development uses source control itself to commit the work. The source control system literally does not matter. For local version control you could use anything, or nothing at all. You could use svn then translate it to git commits, you could use git then translate it to scion.. commits? You could just take the whole working copy it produced and squashed commit into whatever the external source control of the day is. Christ you could use svn locally, offline, then translate it into.. external svn commits. It's not rocket surgery. I could fart out scripts to do all of those in any combination in tens of minutes. How could anyone ever think this is only possible with git, like it's the only possible way to do offline development?/!

The actual problem is how many people have opinions on git, and lack a first principals based understanding of how version control even works.

Comment Re: Bosses' folly (Score 1) 107

In any case, the rapid fall off of CVS and Subversion proved his point.

He has given us his shoe! This is a sign that all who follow him shall do likewise! The shoe is the sign! It's a sandal! Gather the shoes! Follow the gourd!

The only thing git adoption proves is that sketch is timeless.

Comment Re: Good luck with that. (Score 1) 72

That damned weight sensor! With my kids it screws up all the time because one person is scanning and other person is standing there holding the previous thing fumbling with the next bag. I started scanning then setting the item outside the bag on the platform instead of handing it off. Then whoever is bag wrangling can bag it in their own time. I think that works, at least I haven't seen the place item on bagging area message in a while.

I can pretend I'm a robot arm on an assembly line, but it sucks for anyone that doesn't predict the shitty programming I guess, that's fair.

Comment Re:Good luck with that. (Score 1) 72

The upper end for AI-pilled companies is paying upwards of $7,500 / seat a month. Which would get you some engineer or managers in most parts of the country, or multiple lower level employees. I have no idea what Kroger pays for their AI, but if they think that AI eliminates thousands of jobs then they are using frontier AI at the aforementioned rate. Or they have made a terrible blunder and are going to be short handed.
Most likely they are not using AI for much of anything but don't want to publicly take responsibility for cutting jobs to trim their expenses. Pure accounting trick with a little AI-flavored PR.

Be real, they're not Amazon burning time on their own hardware funny accounting. So more like $20/month a person, maybe $50 for a developer.

Don't worry about them being short handed. They're being sued for some amount that's potentially around three times their adjusted annual profits because of a failed merger/acquisition a couple years ago. They did some buybacks, but growth has been shit for a while, and on Oct 12th, the same day as this AI layoff announcement, *COINCIDENTALLY*WINK*WINK*WINK*, the filings from that lawsuit were made public. Scheduled to go to trial on the 19th. I arrest my case your honor.

https://assets.bwbx.io/documen...

I used AI to look all this up, so please everyone feel free to burn out your own eyeballs reading a bunch of legal blah blah blah and financial filings. None of these AI layoff stories have anything to do with AI, you just have to look, and use an AI to do it FFS, but also read and ask questions either way. Also I don't want to get sued, so uh sure AI optimized teams can cut through corporate inefficiencies.. just like I use it to cut through the bullshit on Slashdot. AI is good and bad so anything is possible? I'm buying groceries at Krogers tomorrow, they're so awesome, you all should.

Comment Re:Good luck with that. (Score 1) 72

They thought self-check was going to eliminate thousands of jobs. Then they figured out that every 4 self-check registers requires 1 human employee to watch it and handle all the alerts it pops up. Pretty sure that one human employee could scan groceries 4 times faster than people doing it themselves, so those self-check registers are saving them... absolutely nothing. And they are seeing a lot more "shrinkage", although I'm not sure whether it is due to intentional or accidental failure to scan items. When I hear a beep, I assume the item scans. Turn out I can't tell the beep from the register I'm at from the beep of any of the adjacent registers... I now prefer human clerks to make it less likely to get arrested for a mistake.

You read the screen to see the price of the thing you scanned along with the total. Not rocket science. I mean shit happens too, we've all walked out with some security tag a cashier forgot to disable at one point basically same thing.

Comment Re:110% agree with Linus! (Score 1) 100

Using it to do things that you're bad at means you won't get any better (fine, a lot of the time) but also you can't evaluate the output properly as you don't understand it, and of course you get impressed by observing (sometimes just apparent) competency. Using it to do things that you're good at, erodes your skills.

That doesn't hold up. If you hand over your carpentry business to a nephew, you'll still always know what a fucked up coffee table looks like. Lots of things are like that, it's easier to grade an essay than write one. Hell it's always easier to read and judge, and get good at it, than it will ever be to write something original, they're separate skills. There might even be a universal information theory rule somewhere in there. Getting rusty happens, but losing the ability to judge the quality of someone else's work, I don't think you have anything to back that up with. Also, getting rusty is OK. Every piece of software in use today replaced something before it, and probably poorly but you're going to use it anyway. If we're talking about tech, memorizing every piece of junk, every trick we use today isn't really "skills". There's a lot of smart hamsters out there running on very dumb wheels. We throw them away for newer ones all the time but nobody ever wants to admit it sucks when they're running on it. Plenty of them deserve to rust.

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