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Resentment is Building As More Workers Feel Stuck 174

Workers in the U.S. are running in place -- feeling stuck in jobs with dimmed prospects of advancement and seeing fewer opportunities to jump ship for something better. From a report: It's a sharp contrast to the heady days of 2022 -- when employees were quitting their jobs at record high rates, open roles proliferated and the possibility of a higher paycheck always seemed just around the corner.

Employers are sitting tight, says Daniel Zhao, lead economist at job site Glassdoor. Companies aren't making big changes to hiring strategy. That means "fewer opportunities for workers to climb the career ladder," he says. They're still plugging away at the same role they've had for years without the opportunity to move up internally or at a new company. 65% of the 3,400 professionals surveyed by Glassdoor last month said they feel stuck in their current role. "As workers feel stuck, pent-up resentment boils under the surface," Zhao writes in a report out yesterday.
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  • by Baron_Yam ( 643147 ) on Wednesday November 20, 2024 @03:59PM (#64960645)

    There's nothing wrong with finding a job and not being driven to climb the ladder until you are an example of the Peter Principle. ...As long as you're making enough to be content and you have a job you like. With shitty employers, this last part is difficult to achieve.

    • by GoTeam ( 5042081 ) on Wednesday November 20, 2024 @04:27PM (#64960747)

      There's nothing wrong with finding a job and not being driven to climb the ladder until you are an example of the Peter Principle. ...As long as you're making enough to be content and you have a job you like. With shitty employers, this last part is difficult to achieve.

      Some people prioritize having a family or being able to travel more over reaching the top of some shit company that will forget you the day after you quit/retire. If it's fulfilling work to you, then go for the top. Just don't expect anyone at work to give a damn.

      • Or not even about "work life balance." Some of us like what we are do and are good at it, and don't want to move up.

        6.3 [mit.edu] "I exist so that I can program. If I were promoted, I would do nothing but waste everyone's time. Can I go now? I have a program that I am working on."
        • Or not even about "work life balance." Some of us like what we are do and are good at it, and don't want to move up. 6.3 [mit.edu] "I exist so that I can program. If I were promoted, I would do nothing but waste everyone's time. Can I go now? I have a program that I am working on."

          I was quite content being a software engineer and at most software lead, left alone to design and implement solutions with a lot of independence. Making me team lead or more and sticking me in meetings and having me do paper work would have been a waste of my skills and experience. The one time I did think about becoming a manager type, my boss, who was moving up one position, said he'd rather me stay where I was, doing actual work, then bumped my salary to $1k less than the person who replaced him.

      • Some people live to work, some work to live. I have a decent life/work balance and like the people I work with so I'm pretty content doing what I do now. If I moved into middle management I'd get more money but a lot more grief and pressure.

    • Absolutely. I'm happy with the work I do, and I decided to move horizontally. Got good at what I do, went independent, and vowed to never work for arseholes again once my "f.u. fund" was sufficient. I'm still getting better at what I do, but it's not what I would call climbing the career ladder. And I can afford to work fewer hours now, which is great.

      But being stuck without promotion... that's what many of fellow Gen Xers had to deal with. It's nothing new even if the reasons for it might be differe
    • by OrangeTide ( 124937 ) on Wednesday November 20, 2024 @06:21PM (#64961049) Homepage Journal

      Those of us in tech corporations typically have to at least pretend that we're trying to grow our career. That we're ambitious enough to seek greater responsibilities and accomplish more things. I've had bad experiences in telling my boss that I'm happy where I'm at and want to keep doing what I'm doing. Now I have to make up some lies about my long-term plans and hope he forgets before the next review.

      • Ugh, that's no surprise but still depressing. While I'm back in school to finish some education and make a career swap, my current employer is happy with me as a department head and doesn't pester me about moving into an actual management role. I was doing that ladder climbing shit when I was younger and once I reached a certain point, decided I was miserable, the extra money wasn't making up for it and I slide back down a roll but am significantly happier. The extra money wouldn't change my life options bu

      • Not limited to tech sector. Same in academia. Always pestered to "rise" to more managerial and high-level roles. Tech sector is worse though, with forcing you to reduce coding and deal more with people - many of us started in tech to **avoid** dealing with people.
        • by buck-yar ( 164658 ) on Thursday November 21, 2024 @06:25AM (#64961917)
          Local high school in my town is the biggest employer. Someone said 5 families control Mexico, not that much different in my small town. The large extended families and friends of the power players get cushy jobs in local govt, schools, and win contracts to do govt funded work. Go to https://www.openthebooks.com/ [openthebooks.com] and see where your tax money is going. Its hard not to ask "why does this position exist? and why is it paying so much?" as you think about how much taxes you pay.
      • by bn-7bc ( 909819 )
        Well managers can't imagine anyone wanting to be anything but managers, because that's what they want to be, and anyone with other goals simply lack drive in their eyes.
  • Everything is broken (Score:5, Interesting)

    by xack ( 5304745 ) on Wednesday November 20, 2024 @03:59PM (#64960647)
    Despite most countries having an educated workforce, the "reward" has been broken through outsourcing, robots and outright slavery in many cases. This can be obviously seen in industries such as crypto, as people are gambling that simply buying earlier in time will get them profits in the future, and then there is slop capitalism, such as scalping products and generating AI related SEO content to try and get "free" money. Our economy is broken across the world, in both democracies of both left and right and dictatorships. There is going to be a very nasty revolt because of AI and slop economics, Nvidia is the new standard oil, and Google is the new AT&T.
    • Oil is still the king of everything. People forget that when they look at the valuations of tech companies, but big oil is bigger than anything in the world.
      I agree with you about the people chasing free money. It's the corporate way, find a way to generate revenue, and then optimize it. There's a serious amount of grift and outright theft going on at every level of humanity. Kids are grabbing stuff off shelves and walking out. The theft problem is shutting down stores in the poor neighborhoods, which were

  • by TigerPlish ( 174064 ) on Wednesday November 20, 2024 @03:59PM (#64960649)

    What if one isn't a money, status and power-obcessed ladder climber? Will such a person also be resentful of their job and workplace?

    Methinks the article's author (and its publishing site, axios) has an axe to grind. An agenda to push. Unhappy Workers of the World, Unite!

    Nah mate. Marxism had its run and failed. Fuck off.

    And leave us non-ladder-climbers the fuck alone, we may have families to look after, or illnesses to conquer. No one has time for your ladder-climbing yuppie up-or-out bullshit.

    • It's not quite that simple. Even those of us who aren't obsessed with promotion eventually notice everyone around us moving up faster. We eventually begin to notice that we aren't in the meetings we should be in. We eventually feel resentment based purely on lack of recognition.
      • by GoTeam ( 5042081 )

        It's not quite that simple. Even those of us who aren't obsessed with promotion eventually notice everyone around us moving up faster. We eventually begin to notice that we aren't in the meetings we should be in. We eventually feel resentment based purely on lack of recognition.

        If a person is constantly being passed by their peers, they likely need to find a new employer. Their current employer doesn't value them, so stop giving them anything of value by going somewhere else. Lots of folks do this 3-4 times before they find the right job.

      • You grow out of that "recognition" thing when no money is ever attached to it. Now, if I was missing out on extra money alongside the recognizing, then I would be upset. At this point in my career at my current company, I just want to fly under the radar and be left alone to do my job. This mostly works for me. I'll leave the young ambition folk to shoot for the top.

      • Gawd. I felt that.

        Though for me it's not that people are moving up faster, it's that companies can't keep focus on anything long enough to see even a medium-term play pay out. If it's not short-term tactical bullshit, then it's taking too long and we need to cancel it. You can spend all your time fixing all the previous short-term tactical shit instead. And anyway, I know we took up all your time on horseshit and told you not to work on it, but why isn't that medium term project delivered yet?

        Meanwhile, the

    • Just because YOU want to be Milton from Office Space doesn't mean normal people don't want a path forward in their jobs. That's not ladder scrabblers, that's just sane human beings.

      Maybe you are happy doing the exact same shit every day and not getting a pay raise that even matches inflation, but normal people want to both be compensated fairly, AND have a path forward that is other than doing the exact same drudge work every day and going home. Even factory workers won't settle for that shit.

      So yeah, res

    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      by skam240 ( 789197 )

      You had me until you decided to bring your completely unrelated political problems into this.

      Shouldnt you want to move up and get a better job so you can be a better capitalist if you have such problems with things on the left?

    • And we have some hypnosis sessions with a professional who's been complaining about chest pains lately...

    • not all workers can be come good managers and others don't want to play politics at work vs doing more hands on work.

    • by lsllll ( 830002 )

      I moved 3 ranks up between 1990-1996 until I took a job contracting for a couple of years and then went back to my old organization as a contractor. The position I left in 1996 was an assistant director with managing employees responsibility, which I hated, but to make bigger money as an employee you had to do that.

      The point I'm trying to make is that maybe some of the employees like what they do and the position they're in. My wife has her certificate to become a high school principal and make about 25-3

    • Is it really necessary to swing to extremes?

      Workers can have bargaining power and control over the resource they own (their time), without reverting to state capitalism or worker owned collectives.

  • time for an union! (Score:3, Informative)

    by Joe_Dragon ( 2206452 ) on Wednesday November 20, 2024 @04:00PM (#64960651)

    time for an union!

    • by KlomDark ( 6370 )
      That's what McDonald's said, and now they are stuck with dead customers and lawsuits and a decline in sales, all because of bad unions.

      "An" union? You mean "A union"?
      • A union sounds better, but I think the an before a vowel thing comes up. Isn't the rule to use "an" before A-E-I-O and sometimes U?

        I guess it depends if it's union or Union. One being a noun while the other is a pronoun. You'd have to ask my sister. She teaches high school English :)

  • by RossCWilliams ( 5513152 ) on Wednesday November 20, 2024 @04:13PM (#64960705)

    People are unhappy, want change and don't see any coming or any way they can either personally or collectively help make it happen. Harris had no chance since she represented the status quo. Her only message was that Trump would be worse and a lot of people didn't turn out because they didn't really think that was true or didn't care.

    The larger issue is that no one that proposed real change can get the money needed to get elected. The people who have the money are satisified with things as they are. They will only support candidates picking around the edges on side issues like immigration or foreign policy.

    Any effort that would reduce wealth inequality is off the table. Any effort that would reduce the power of monopolies is off the table. Any effort that created fair tax policies is off the table. Any effort that fixed our expensive and ineffective health care system is off the table. Any fix to our broken retirement system is off the table. Real efforts to deal with climate change that don't allow the wealthy to buy their way out are off the table. You can create a long list of things that are more important to our daily lives than border security or china using our technology. Or vaccination policy. But there isn't anyone out there with the resources to do anything about them.

    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      Harris had no chance since she represented the status quo. Her only message was that Trump would be worse and a lot of people didn't turn out because they didn't really think that was true or didn't care.

      https://kamalaharris.com/issue... [kamalaharris.com] I bet if you told people on the street these were Trump campaign promises they would be praising him to no end.

      • It was negative campaigning vs negative campaigning, and that's really a winning campaign strategy. Ultimately, both sides were preaching to the choir rather than enticing people to their sides; and it really came down to getting people to vote instead of staying home. Undecided voters either had secretly decided, or they were just going with the feel good uninformed gut instinct. I think early on in her campaign that Harris was less negative but over time as the numbers dropped the negative campaigning

        • This was clearly not a "mandate" for anything, but then every president claims a mandate no matter how close the vote. As a practical matter MAGA Republicans now control all three branches of government. So they have the power of a mandate.
      • I don't see anything there about how she is going to help people cope with high prices. Just a bunch of wonkish jargon about the middle class and targeted tax cuts and benefits for specific groups. And some things about her past achievements which are now all part of the status quo people are unhappy with.

        There are a lot of things she might have done differently. My point is that largely it didn't matter. She had no ability to overcome people's unhappiness with their current lives. This was a vote against t

    • ... proposed real change can get the money ...

      Bernie Sanders proposed real change: He was 'canceled' by his own party. That was more than a demonstration of corporatism in politics and the US economy. It was the proof that 30 years ago, the Democratic Party stopped putting blue-collar voters, first: It's been said so many times, no-one remembers the Democratic Party is its own worst enemy. We are about to see the Democratic party be the minority party (in the HoR and Senate), for stints of 8-10 years.

      ... didn't really think that was true or didn't care.

      Your complaints of US politics/law/economy/gesta

      • I think you are blaming the victim. The democratic party has been hijacked by an elite centered around Yale and Harvard who see politics as a matter of managing perceptions. They speak at people, not for them. By contrast, Trump is a professional celebrity who figures out what the group of people who support him want to hear said and then says it. He speaks for them not at them.

        One analysis of the election is that when Trump left office working Americans were experiencing the best level of financial securit

      • by MrKaos ( 858439 )

        That was more than a demonstration of corporatism in politics and the US economy.

        The stagnation that corporatism brings comes from the subtle conversion of capitalism and democracy into feudalism, like history shows us the about the middle ages, now the Lords are Corporate. If eternal vigilance is the price of freedom then slavery is the cost of apathy.

        Now, US voters are corrupt too, demanding elitism for themselves and sacrificing their fellow citizens and townsfolk. The USA is truly getting the government it deserves.

        Looks like Benjamin Franklin was right about the constitution then:
        In these sentiments, Sir, I agree to this Constitution with all its faults, if they are such; because I think a general Government necessary for us, and there is no form

  • I can speak to my own personal career, here. I've been in I.T. doing one thing or another in it for I think 31 years now?
    I had my own on-site service and consulting business at one point, but I've mostly done corporate I.T. for small to mid-sized companies. I've been the only full-time I.T. guy wearing "all the hats" for a steel fabricator, for a 6 or 7 year stint. I've worked as an I.T. support specialist for nearly as long for another business, as part of a small team. I even spent about a year with AWS,

    • 6.2 [mit.edu]
      Why are programmers non-productive? Because their time is wasted in meetings.
      Why are programmers rebellious? Because the management interferes too much.
      Why are the programmers resigning one by one? Because they are burnt out.
      Having worked for poor management, they no longer value their jobs.
    • But the issue I kept running up against, my whole career, is inability to move into a sysadmin or even support role where I no longer have to interact regularly with the end-users.

      Yeah I was on track for a job in education like that, I did some contract work for the same employer and was lined up for the job, and then the guy who wasn't capable of doing his job so they had to contract me to do it on multiple occasions decided he was going to keep the job another year because he bought a Harley and needed to pay it off. Why yes, it was a union shop, why do you ask?

  • by rsilvergun ( 571051 ) on Wednesday November 20, 2024 @04:29PM (#64960761)
    The tariffs are going to spike inflation.

    To fight that inflation the federal reserve will hike interest rates up, because that's what they do.

    Now, let's talk about how and why high interest rates "fight" inflation, because it's not something anyone really talks about.
    br> See, it's suddenly expensive to borrow money. Most companies expand using borrowed money. So they stop expanding. Heck, they start *contracting*.

    That means layoffs. Mass layoffs. If you're in Tech you're already seeing it, which is why you're "stuck".

    The idea is we all get fired, blow through our savings, and massively pull back on spending. That forces companies to cut prices when demand tanks.

    It's balancing the books on our backs.

    This only works if there's competition, but we've had decades of unchecked market consolidation. So there's no real reason for companies to cut prices except the threat of anti-trust law enforcement and regulation.

    And those are right out the window now.

    So buckle up folks, we voted for this. [marketwatch.com]
    • To quote from Ferris Beuller's Day Off, the teacher (played by Ben Stein, who started as a speech writer for Nixon and Ford) is droning on:

      In 1930, the Republican-controlled House of Representatives, in an effort to alleviate the effects of the... Anyone? Anyone?...
      the Great Depression, passed the... Anyone? Anyone?
      The tariff bill? The Hawley-Smoot Tariff Act? Which, anyone?
      Raised or lowered?... raised tariffs, in an effort to collect more revenue for the federal government.
      Did it work? Anyone? Anyone know the effects?
      It did not work, and the United States sank deeper into the Great Depression.

    • The tariffs are going to spike inflation.
      ...
      So buckle up folks, we voted for this.

      No problem, Biden will get the blame for it.

      • but same difference.

        We really weren't ready to elect a milquetoast black president. If he'd managed to do an FDR style new deal it would've worked out, but he really just kept things afloat and more or less fixed the most immediate problems.

        And my _God_ people were scared. I knew several people who bought guns thinking Obama was coming for them. Obama. A guy who couldn't be bothered passing his own signature legislation (Pelosi's the one who rammed through the ACA).

        I think a lot of Americans see
    • The only thing that fights inflation is taxes. Taxes aren't coming back, so inflation is the new normal.

      When companies borrow, its true they spend the money, adding to inflation, but they also produce additional goods and services that more than counteract that pressure.

    • Now, let's talk about how and why high interest rates "fight" inflation, because it's not something anyone really talks about.

      Lmafo, 54% of Americans read at the 6th grade level or below, they don’t understand the word tariff so you’re going to need to back up quite a ways. For those reading a tariff is a tax PAID by US companies or people to import things into the US like raw materials, products, and food. Companies can’t go out of business and want to keep making the same profits so COMPANIES ADD ALL THAT TAX AND JACK UP THE PRICE PEOPLE PAY.

      If you have a person buying shirts for $10 and selling them for $2

      • I don't think I'd of included food in that list but only because we pretty much are a net exporter of food. Also, I seriously doubt you will see a 100% blanket tariff for the entire market. You MIGHT see targeted tariffs, such as Trump did last time and Biden carried them forward (as in, they still exist today!). Heck, Biden even did his own protection racket tariffs on solar panels and EVs. Which is baffling if you think about it. If China wants to sell the world cheap solar panels and EVs, shouldn't we be

      • Or they buy from an American company instead. And that company employees American workers and buys supplies from other American companies. The results may be higher or lower prices for American consumers, depending on whether the American company can produce the product at the same or lower cost.

        You are right tariffs are taxes. So they will lower somebody else's share of taxes.

        I am not a big fan of tariffs. But the notion that "free trade" benefited the average American is doubtful. It allowed American cap

    • by hey! ( 33014 )

      The deportations as well will create supply chain disruptions, and that will also be inflationary. We'll especially see upward pressure on food prices.

    • Got news for ya. The market economy is in trouble regardless of who we voted for. The market's never reached this high and there are various economic warning signs that the tv doesn't like to talk about. It's boring after all.

      I'm surprised it's lasted this long to be honest. The real killer for our country will be the out of control debt though. Neither party will "fix" this. It would require massive austerity, spending cuts and tax increases. Democrats love new taxes but only so they can spend more. Republ

    • It's critically important to always remind people that the sky is falling.
      If it's not actually (remember how everyone 3 weeks ago was insisting THE ECONOMY IS FINE GODDAMNIT! ?) it surely will be any moment now.

      Otherwise, why would they need to vote for a mommy government that will snuggle them and hold them and validate them and keep telling them how special they are?

  • by nightflameauto ( 6607976 ) on Wednesday November 20, 2024 @04:48PM (#64960831)

    Looking at the prospects for society moving forward, it all seems pretty bleak. But, the only focus we're told we're supposed to have is career and the pursuit of every increasing wealth. Anything outside of that is considered a waste of time, a waste of energy, a waste of potential. And maybe, just maybe, pursuit of empty, meaningless careers, while watching our parents and elders age out and see that most of it was literally for absolutely nothing at all other than taking care of the people they never had the opportunity to spend time with until they aged out, we wonder what the point of jumping on the treadmill and barely maintaining momentum while standing still is. Middle class folks get pushed down to the bottom if they aren't climbing. And if we aren't climbing, we're told we're failing.

    Maybe we're just resentful of a society that has literally found every avenue available to tell us we are worthless. Healthcare has been stolen from those of us that used to be able to afford it. Now, for me, a relatively healthy middle aged guy, it's 10k a years as an individual, for a policy with a 12k a year copay, that covers literally nothing at all, and has the prospect of denying coverage if I have the accident I fear may bankrupt me. So I have a choice to either pay in and continue to pay, or not pay in and risk the unknown. Common bills continue to climb around 8-9% per year, pay increases around 3% per year. Been that way for over twenty years in this area, and right at the moment it's looking like the common bills are going to start climbing faster. I can "make due," but I won't be putting away the retirement funds I'd been hoping to be putting away so I don't have to work until I'm completely shredded.

    This isn't a "worker" vs. "employer" only situation. This is a society wide trap that we've all fallen into. And when we ask for hope, we're handed a shit sandwich and told to eat up. "Should have worked harder, should have done more, should have been born better." Well, some of us are looking at the future prospects and seeing more of the same and are tired of the bleakness.

    Oh, and by the way, AI is going to replace us all within a few years too. So we got that fun little monkey riding our backs, no matter how false the premise seems to those of us that see how crap the average AI actually is. Because management seems to believe it. And all it takes is the right decisions and we're all out on our asses until the day comes where they realize they fucked up and may actually need humans after all. And by then, our wages will have all reset to baseline again. The future's so bright, I gotta wear SPF 20,000 to avoid burning in it.

  • by Shaitan ( 22585 ) on Wednesday November 20, 2024 @05:13PM (#64960885)

    They'll point out how many applicants they get but companies are using that as an excuse because they don't fill the roles with any of them. Nobody is hired to grow into/adapt to roles anymore... everyone needs to be a perfect fit already which can only be done by someone stepping out of that EXACT job somewhere else.

    If you won't hire a senior checkpoint engineer to be your new senior palo engineer then you've eliminated the closest parallel that exists to that job, the only thing that works then is another senior palo engineer and checkpoints going out of style. Soon enough the same will be true of palo. And since you won't hire either as an architect cloud or security engineer [which is almost never devsecops/app security but universally listed with that skillset requirement] despite the fact they've likely proven they can switch hats before they have nowhere to go.

    This isn't just bad for the employees impacted and bad because it demotivates people in tech. The best talent available almost certainly isn't the closest match! You are going to end up passing over top talent in favor of someone with a skillset that any tech guy could pick up fairly quickly. You can't teach talent and experience... you can teach appliances, languages, frameworks, etc especially to talented staff.

  • More workers have their heads still stuck in the sand refusing to realize that they aren't as valuable as they think they are.

    • by hey! ( 33014 )

      They're pretty valuable. But what drives decisions in capitalism isn't value, it's *marginal* value. You can always afford to fire someone, you can't afford to fire everyone.

  • by Mspangler ( 770054 ) on Wednesday November 20, 2024 @05:41PM (#64960945)

    11,000 boomers retiring a day and there are no open spaces up the ladder? Peak baby boom was 1958 plus or minus a year, they are hitting the Grail, Full Retirement Age this year and next year.

    Add in later boomers retiring early and the very logical question is where did the job opening go? Or did too many race into computers so that now there is a shortage of electricians, carpenters, and plumbers.

    Somewhere there is a disconnect.

    • by hey! ( 33014 ) on Wednesday November 20, 2024 @07:18PM (#64961177) Homepage Journal

      I'm in that retiring boomer range, and one thing that has changed drastically about work since I entered the work force is the degree to which jobs with a company are *transitory*. In the 1960s, the average amount of time someone worked for a company was ten years. When I entered the workforce in the 80s it was six years. Today it is four years.

      Employment also *feels* a lot more transient than it used to. I know a lot of young workers who work in constant fear of layoffs, even when the company is doing well. Layoffs of course always happened, but only when things were quite bad. Now company decisions are more informatics driven and agile and if the spreadsheet says, we're profitable now but we'll be a lot more profitable next quarter if we lay off a bunch of people, then suddenly people get a text telling them they're not employed anymore.

      Companies complain about declining loyalty among employees, but a loyal employee now is just a sucker.

      The path up was often a kind of balance between internal promotion and changing companies, but now both paths feel broken. Companies don't invest in developing employees like they used to because employees are hired and let go casually. But now if you try to change jobs the application process is an opaque black box. HR departments get spammed with applications and run them through filters that work god knows how.

      Believe it or not, it used to be customary to respond to correspondence applying for a job with a brief but polite decline. And if you actually interviewed, it was customary to tell you in a timely manner if you didn't get the job. Now I've known young people to go through several *days* of interviews, only to be ghosted.

    • Certainly there's some re-arrangement needed. Society doesn't need health insurance or A.I. salesmen, but the people doing those jobs won't want to transition into nursing, plumbing, or construction without:

      (1) a big stick - unemployment
      (2) a big carrot - decent wages on the other side

      The next market crash could be the stick. But they'll also need a clear, risk-free path to transition into the next career. Some kind of national employment agency that funds the training, and guarantees job placement. And pro

    • by dohzer ( 867770 )

      There'll be plenty of retirement home jobs to go around!

  • I worked 35 years at DuPont, yup sucked at times...went thru some layoffs weeks, BUT it was a steady paycheck and medical insurance for my family. I had decent raises and a few promotions. Steady paycheck meant I could pay my house off, feed my family, buy cars when needed, built up a very good credit score, never missed a payment ! Feeling stuck or entitled ??? I had a job before the senior year in high school cause I wanted car. No one handed any $$$. Suck its up !!!
    • I think most of us of a certain age can say we've gone through a bunch of things, with whatever happened to us, that we sucked it up. Or if we didn't we wouldn't be posting here. . You merely show that you want to see others suffer as you did.

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