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Reddit Bans 11-Year Account for GPL Game Post, Testing the EU's DSA (reddit.com) 180

Longtime Slashdot reader DF5JT writes: On July 26, I posted a single announcement in r/backgammon: GNU Backgammon for Android, GPLv3, the first standalone backgammon engine on F-Droid. Reddit's spam filter removed the post and permanently banned my 11-year, 30,000-karma account -- the result is publicly visible at reddit.com/user/OE1FEU. To this day, Reddit has given no reason whatsoever, although Article 17 of the EU's Digital Services Act makes a statement of reasons mandatory. The only appeal channel is a 250-character web form that sends no confirmation and has never been answered; Reddit's own help text admits: "you may not have received a message to your inbox." A GDPR export of 11 years of data came to 7.2 MB; every post was truncated after a few lines, with zero data about the ban decision.

So I spent one day escalating through every mechanism the EU provides: certified out-of-court dispute settlement at Austria's RTR, complaints with the Austrian and Dutch Digital Services Coordinators, the data protection authority (citing the ECJ's SCHUFA ruling on automated decisions), noyb, and Austria's consumer association. Bonus finding: the European Commission's DSA Transparency Database contains 14,067 Reddit statements of reasons for that week -- none for my ban -- and the Commission's own feedback form limits reports to 500 characters and crashed with a 500 Server Error. Is the DSA enforceable for ordinary users, or just paperwork?

Reddit Bans 11-Year Account for GPL Game Post, Testing the EU's DSA

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  • He really is following the regulations, that's good!

  • by gweihir ( 88907 ) on Tuesday August 11, 2026 @07:23AM (#66283296)

    The DSA has teeth, but bureaucracy is slow. It may also be necessary to level some impressive fines under the DSA before it becomes respected by the usual US social media asshole companies. If you do, say, a GDPR data request (which does include data on why something was banned, demonetized, etc.) even YouTube reacts fast, because they all know this can get extremely expensive and can get them shut down in Europe if they mess it up too often.

    • by Tom ( 822 ) on Tuesday August 11, 2026 @07:45AM (#66283316) Homepage Journal

      The DSA has teeth, but bureaucracy is slow.

      Which is often intentional.

      We live in 2026. You can order an artillery or drone strike in Ukraine from a tablet and it'll be delivered within minutes. Data processing speeds are essentially instant for data sets not on LLM sizes. We have automation everywhere when it suits the right people. e.g. that speeding ticket you received for going 12 km/h over the limit? No human ever so much as saw that. Full automated process. Takes 6-12 weeks. Why? Because otherwise you might still remember how fast you were actually going or that you weren't even in that street on that day, and fight it. Same principle here: The slower the bureaucracy, the more people will just give up and go away. It's a self-regulating system to reduce the number of inquiries to the amount that the public servants can comfortably process.

      • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

        by Anonymous Coward

        Eh, it's kind of like a terminal that makes time between login attempts to prevent a brute force attack.

      • We have automation everywhere when it suits the right people. e.g. that speeding ticket you received for going 12 km/h over the limit? No human ever so much as saw that. Full automated process. Takes 6-12 weeks. Why? Because otherwise you might still remember how fast you were actually going or that you weren't even in that street on that day, and fight it. Same principle here: The slower the bureaucracy, the more people will just give up and go away. It's a self-regulating system to reduce the number of inquiries to the amount that the public servants can comfortably process.

        My dudes, the system, our system(s) aren't perfect. I'm with you, the issue is the volume of shit courts have to deal with, and the solution is not super high speed automated dispute resolution systems to deal with even more automated speeding tickets, it's to lower the volume of bullshit, and less speeding tickets that do nothing good for anyone.

        But complaining about getting in front of a judge to discuss how The Internet Moderators have treated you, what the fuck are you doing with your life. Again, the p

        • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

          by pla ( 258480 )
          Being silenced inappropriately by clanker mods is far more frustrating than getting nailed for plenty of minor "real" crimes we consider legitimate. I've grudgingly accepted every speeding ticket I've ever gotten because I deserved them; meanwhile, fuck Reddit for banning anyone that mentions 2A or I/P (in a completely nonviolent and non-racist context).

          This is all the more offensive when companies try to hide behind section 230 for their own capricious actions while explicitly violating it to remove cont
          • This is all the more offensive when companies try to hide behind section 230 for their own capricious actions while explicitly violating it to remove content because /rolls dice/ it's Tuesday and Spez didn't get a hummer with breakfast today.

            Dammit. I was with you right up until this part.

            Section 230 EXPLICITY grants operators the protection to block anything they damn well please -even something which is otherwise legally protected speech is explicitly allowed to be blocked solely at their discretion with no recourse.

            • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

              Keep in mind though that this is Europe. Here if they make an automated decision, they have to explain it on request.

        • by Tom ( 822 )

          You didn't get it. This is speeding tickets issued by fully automated systems. No court has ever seen this.

          The solution is to stop treating it as a money-printing system. Punish people who speed in front of kindergardens, and leave people alone who at the city edge in the industrial zone on a Sunday evening didn't decelerate quite fast enough coming in from the highway.

          But complaining about getting in front of a judge to discuss how The Internet Moderators have treated you, what the fuck are you doing with your life.

          I literally have no clue why you're saying that or who you think you're talking to.

      • by gweihir ( 88907 )

        Not directly intentional, no. Bureaucracies are designed to be slow and careful. The "careful" part may not always be present, but the "slow" part is always there and it is not a question of technology.

    • The DSA has teeth, but bureaucracy is slow. It may also be necessary to level some impressive fines under the DSA before it becomes respected by the usual US social media asshole companies. If you do, say, a GDPR data request (which does include data on why something was banned, demonetized, etc.) even YouTube reacts fast, because they all know this can get extremely expensive and can get them shut down in Europe if they mess it up too often.

      Play bureaucratic games, Win bureaucratic prizes.

  • Similar issue (Score:5, Interesting)

    by AmiMoJo ( 196126 ) on Tuesday August 11, 2026 @07:25AM (#66283300) Homepage Journal

    I created a throwaway account, as is normal practice on Reddit when you want to ask something without it being tied to your main account, and it was quickly perma banned, and a 7 day ban applied to my main account.

    I submitted a DSAR under GDPR rules, and like DF5JT I just got some truncated crap and none of the information I actually wanted.

    Currently going through legal action with Reddit over this. In their initial defence they admitted that the ban was automated, and when I appealed a human looked at it and confirmed it. The ban was for being a bot, which obviously I'm not, so they admitted they made a mistake that really human review should have fixed. It appears that they also deleted the data that I asked for, which is a fairly severe GDPR violation. On top of that, they tried to gaslight me about it, for example by showing fake login errors and a fake password reset process, in order to supposedly access the DSAR data, when in fact they had already deleted both the account and data.

    Currently waiting for mediation to be scheduled, basically a 1 hour phone session where an intermediary tries to see if there is a way we can settle without it getting to court. Given they have admitted they screwed up, and have deleted the data I asked for, and seem to have a policy of abusing users who submit a DSAR...

    • Re:Similar issue (Score:5, Interesting)

      by sinkskinkshrieks ( 6952954 ) on Tuesday August 11, 2026 @08:24AM (#66283352)
      Reddit is owned by greedy corporate asshole hipsters in SF (including Sam Altman of OpenAI) who don't give 2 flying fucks about EU regulations, liberal democratic values like due process, transparency, or benefit of the doubt, or human review that doesn't involve bullshit justifications to double-down on the original, undisclosed "pronouncement" of the AI.
    • Re:Similar issue (Score:5, Interesting)

      by jenningsthecat ( 1525947 ) on Tuesday August 11, 2026 @08:27AM (#66283354)

      Best of luck to you, and I hope Reddit gets the screws put to them bigtime.

      I don't know much about this stuff. My first thought is that the law should force companies like Reddit to have a DSAR banner on every page their site serves. It would show the total number of DSARs filed to date, and have a link to a page listing ALL of them, both pending and resolved - with personally identifiable stuff redacted, of course.

      If legislation forced such businesses to make every gaslighting move blatantly public, maybe the behaviour would improve.

      • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

        Reddit, like many companies, relies on having an automated system to process DSARs. You make a request and it shits out a zip file with some data in text formats like XML. Unfortunately that data is incomplete, and doesn't cover anything that isn't available by simply looking at your account page. You also can't get it if the account has been deleted.

        Unfortunately the UK's regulator is useless, so legal action is the only way to get this stuff resolved.

        • I worked for a company that implemented the "Right to Know" for the CCPA. I can assure you that the data they sent to users was not anywhere near everything that was required under the law.
    • Nice. Way to make the world a better place.
    • I created a throwaway account, as is normal practice on Reddit when you want to ask something without it being tied to your main account

      You do know Reddit has privacy settings now to prevent people from browsing through your post history? Ironically, Slashdot doesn't, so now everyone who looks at your post history here will know you were asking some sort of awkward question on Reddit.

      • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

        I'm aware, but they can of course use Google or just recognize the name. I wish Reddit let you change your username.

      • by pla ( 258480 )
        "author:powercntrl".

        No idea if that's you or not, but I promise I'm not stalking you - That's just how stunningly useless Reddit's privacy controls are.
        • I don't have the privacy settings enabled on my account. If someone really wants to read through my post history on Reddit, it's their sanity to lose.

  • No laws are enforceable for ordinary users. They are enforceable for courts. The ordinary user would be required to use an enforcement mechanism such as a government commission (which seems to have failed you) or through a legal process such as suing the company directly, ideally filing lawsuit against them in Amsterdam where they are based.

    • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

      Meh, there are other ways. Post a story on slashdot for instance.
      • Maybe they should post it on Reddit instead with a new account, where someone who can actually fix the problem might see it?

        Although, knowing Reddit, it will detect that he's coming in from the same IP or computer as the banned account and auto ban that one as well. So... maybe use a VPN and a different browser first, assuming that's still allowed.

  • by sinkskinkshrieks ( 6952954 ) on Tuesday August 11, 2026 @08:15AM (#66283338)
    Where opaque, proprietary algorithms decide without evidence or appeal to instaban long-time, constructive users for "reasons".

    Never try to build an elaborate homestead in the surf zone of an ocean controlled by some mercurial megacorp.
    • by ffkom ( 3519199 )
      At least he got the honor for being banned for something posted after having been able to post before. Last time I created an account at a mildly interesting forum, when I wanted to write a very first post I immediately got a message that the account was banned "because something-something you must be a bot". Before anything was posted. I did not bother to appeal or follow up with such nonsense.
  • What is the Democratic Socialists of America doing in EUrope?

  • https://x.com/shopnilrone/status/2078860355233824809

    https://postory.io/blog/twitter-suspended-appeal

    https://inspiretothrive.com/twitter-jail/
  • Reddit permanently banned my account (over 12 years old) and for two years now I've been unable to create a new account that lasts more than a few minutes before being banned. They claimed I "advocated violence" when all I did was write that I looked forward to scrolling past a certain orange madman's obituary. For two years, now, I've been unable to create a new account that lasts more than a few minutes before being banned, regardless of using VPN, different email addresses, etc. Not sure how they trac
    • Heh, I got a site wide ban on Reddit this weekend. On a story about an American company with ties to Trump, illegally in Greenland with a bunch of drilling equipment that they've been expressly told they do not have authority to use.

      Someone posted that they should be arrested. I replied that we've already set the precedent that they're in the country illegally, working illegally, so they should be arrested and then deported to El Salvador.

      Some AI decided that I was promoting hate speech, and I got banned.

    • I once got perma-banned for advocating violence against Amelia Earhart. I still say that bitch has it coming.

    • For two years, now, I've been unable to create a new account that lasts more than a few minutes before being banned, regardless of using VPN, different email addresses, etc. Not sure how they trace them back to me, or why they would go to such lengths.

      If you're using Windows it would appear it could be the Microsoft GDID. If you're still using the same browser it could be your unique ID they get from that.

  • I got banned for telling an IT worker asking about career advice to steer clear of Indian contract companies because of my personal experience and their general reputation for ripping people off, not paying them, lying about it being 1099 income, being understaffed and underpaid, etc. That got a 7 day ban that was actually lifted on appeal. Then I got banned again because I made a comment about H1B's affecting the job market. It was one VERY inoffensive sentence.
  • I thought they required you to create a new account every time you log in.

    Though that may have been 20 years ago. Last time I saw a reason to go there.

    • That is because you mix up:
      Sign in with
      Sign up

      And the Sign UP button is highlighted and default.

      Blame the web designer.

      I have a friend with ~20 Facebook accounts, every time, the cooky runs out, he makes a new one, and gets himself as first friend suggestion.

      Always takes days to recover the original account.

  • by Fly Swatter ( 30498 ) on Tuesday August 11, 2026 @10:04AM (#66283584) Homepage
    Sometimes things work but most of the time something will go wrong.

    Usually it is something small, until you need to get something done and keep running into poorly managed computer services.

    Computers are convenient until they aren't, then you waste time tracking down a human that can't fix it except to say 'you are screwed.'
  • Was it signed in triplicate, sent in, sent back, queried, lost, found, subjected to public inquiry, lost again, and finally buried in soft peat for three months and recycled as firelighters?

  • by silentbozo ( 542534 ) on Tuesday August 11, 2026 @12:07PM (#66283848) Journal

    Now that all this information is valuable (to AI bot scrapers), it's all being gatekept from humans who refuse to log in and participate in generating more valuable content for AI bot scrapers.

    It's basically Farmville (but for scrapeable content), but restricted to the existing domesticated population of users. If you refuse to have a collar put on you, you no longer are allowed to access an echo copy of information that used to be on the open web before SEO garbage displaced it all.

    Surfing with javascript turned off to help defend against drive-by 0-days? Half a dozen anti-bot systems either block or temp ban you. Use the wrong IP address, and reddit prevents access.

    You could say this is a natural evolution of order in a capitalist society, as explained by Cory Doctorow's views on enshittification. However, I would argue this goes back even further to RMS' views on open vs closed software. Essentially, when no money is at stake, people are willing to share. When money is at stake, people start putting the things people were sharing behind closed doors and charging for entry.

    If you extend the open source metaphor, being able to fork your posts theoretically allows individuals (and by extension a community) to transcend greed and censorship. Consider how much historical content (both virtual and IRL) has become cancellable in the last 4 presidential administrations, depending on which side of the current wave of bandwagoning you stand on. Even before that, how much content was rejected or "rewritten" on spaces like Wikipedia to satisfy the personal views of editors who staked out and camped specific areas on Wikipedia. Mind you, this was before Wikipedia became a force multiplier for influencing, which led to attacks by astroturfers and state actors.

    Which then leads me to the question... what forkable, censorship resistant alternatives to reddit exist? I don't want to have a brand just to have my own legion of supporters to defend and reinstate me, or rely on glacial bureaucracy mandated by law if I get deplatformed just for having a conversation just because some AI bot had a bad day.

  • by Ajay Anand ( 2838487 ) on Tuesday August 11, 2026 @12:42PM (#66283936)
    Initially, Reddit was an open source project but it stopped being so about a decade ago. Your backgammon engine was under GPL and Reddit stopped appreciating that a decade ago. OpenAI became closed-source years ago.

    These are clear indications of the beginning of an abusive regime.

    Slash, the content management engine behind Slashdot is still open source though.
    • by PPH ( 736903 )

      Keep an eye on Reddit. See if one of their pals releases a Backgammon game in the near future.

      Also, Reddit is advertising supported. Did OP buy an ad? There's that to consider as well.

  • He forgot to go through the Department of Bureaucracy Reduction.

  • I don't play BackGammon but just reading the description on fdroid I fully support this app. The fact you can play this game completely offline without weirdo monetization or needing to phone home or be online is what I'm talking about. Why this post or game should get someone banned is absolutely bananas....

    Then again I suppose the "AI" running inside Reddit is jealous that the AI for this game cab be fully offline and not be stuck in a data center and can be out in the world. Albeit it's still playing bac

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