I don't quite agree with everything you said, but I'm willing to overlook everything because of your correct use of the word fecundity. 10/10, would reply again.

It's been a while since a comment on Slashdot made me happy. Thank you, sir.

Also, thank you for being a teacher. People say "thank you for your service" to military men when I'd rather say "fuck you for participating in the violent colonial exploitation of militarily weaker nations".

Thank you for your service.

I have kids too. I'm not going to pretend that I have all the answers. But parents have lost the ability to properly impart etiquette to their kids, in many cases because they have none themselves. So kids' behaviour in public has gotten worse. Simultaneously, adults have become spoiled brats unwilling to tolerate even the slightest discomfort, which is why you have people whining about having to listen to crying babies on flights. For fuck's sake babies are the literal future of our species.

Kids' etiquette needs to be improved.
Adults need to grow up.

I've travelled around the world, and it's only the so-called advanced Western countries that have this problem. For example, I was in Vietnam recently and kids' public behaviour was practically alien compared to kids back in Australia where I live. When kids did cry or make a ruckus, nobody even looked up. It was just understood that that is what it meant to live in a society that had kids.

Alternatively we fix that problem at both ends: we raise kids to behave well in public, and we as a society understand that putting up with kids who are in the process of learning etiquette is the price we pay for not going extinct.

Interesting that you feel that those are the only two options. Modern American society provides neither of those. In any case, the rest of the world finds it hilarious that no matter how often and how many of you dumbasses are driven to bankruptcy over mundane medical incidents, you STILL don't see the value in having a few social services provided at the government level. Don't mind me. You keep shrieking some shit about communism because I have to go. I have a doctor's appointment, because getting a regular checkup here in Australia isn't something I have to save up six months ahead for.

No, they use it because they feel that living in a fair society is a good thing. Fucking scumbags.

Sorry, I didn't mean to twist your panties. I was merely pointing out (pedantically, I admit) that the rules of logic are not identical to the rules of statistics. LLMs (and arguably all current generations of AI models) are inherently statistical systems. This can be pretty easily demonstrated by the fact that all current LLMs can be coaxed into saying things that are illogical. As you point out you can "approximate" logic and arrive at logical conclusions with these systems, but you are not doing so using a logic engine. You are doing so using a stochastic system.

At the philosophical level, logic exists outside of our neurons. Its rules are (as far as we accept anything in reality) independent of human existence. So just because our neurons are also subject to the imperfections of stochastic systems does not mean that ALL stochastic systems are logical.

Point of order. LLMs are not applying logic to a data set. They are applying statistical probability models to a data set. Not quite the same thing.

I didn't say they don't need calibration.

I said they don't need calibration all the time.

Failure to connect to the cloud should not result in immediate device failure. Manual calibration steps should be possible. Or at least a message "cloud service unavailable, device will stop working in 48h" or similar.

I don't understand why people are willing to bootlick the company in this case. Cloud connected everything is cancer.

I mean, the data is easily googleable.

Me: Prison is not the answer to everything.
You: It is because (insert specific scenario).

Let me introduce you to the word "everything" and what it means.

This whole article is about how to STOP people from driving while drunk. I'm not hand wringing, I just don't think that prison is the only solution here.

Because prison is not the answer to everything for fuck's sake.

Sure, in this case we can say "fuck you" to drunk drivers and the don't deserve sympathy, but this everything must be cloud connected trend is going to fuck us all eventually.

The problem is that the above sentence requires a person to be able to hold two thoughts in their head at the same time, which appears to be above almost everyone commenting in this thread.

Drinking and driving is not cool.

Making a device that could and should operate locally rely on a cloud service is also not cool. Breathalyzers have been around for decades, and do not need calibration all the time.

Sure, in this case we can say "fuck you" to drunk drivers, but this everything must be cloud connected trend is going to fuck us all eventually.

That's some optimism you have, asking people to think before posting.