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Comment Re:they are right, the ban is stupid. (Score 1) 1042

Well shit... How did I not know that? I was thinking Empire-Weimar-NSDAP-Federal Republic. Guess I should have taken more than one semester of German.

Anyhow, I'm well aware of what people are thinking when they say "Fourth Reich", but as it's silly and wrong, I like to point that out.

Comment Re:Immigration policy is not hate speech (Score 1) 1042

I didn't, you generalized my statements to all Democrats. All I said was that Democrats were the ones making certain arguments on the news. That can't possibly be all Democrats, even if every news outlet joined forces to interview each individual Democrat we still couldn't have gotten through them all.

In other words, thank you for providing an example.

I don't know how to respond to your first point, as I'm not entirely sure what it is. This is due to the ambiguous term "reactionary", which in this context usually refers to a class of attitudes on the far right. The left-wing instance of the class is termed "radical". So, I'm not sure what you mean by "reactionary extreme viewpoints". Rewritten as "extreme right-wing viewpoints" doesn't seem to fit the context of your approach, but I don't want to put words in your mouth.

Comment Re:Immigration policy is not hate speech (Score 3, Insightful) 1042

Yes, but it becomes difficult when facing rhetoric that falsely generalizes your specific statements to entire groups, labels you as racist for any disagreement, or invents new contexts to justify calling you racist.

For example, any Republican that comes out and says, "Illegal immigration is bad, it hurts Americans and we need to do something about it", will be lambasted as anti-immigrant, with Democrats all over the news talking about how we're a nation of immigrants and that this is just another example of the GOP being racist and hating American values. As if the "illegal" was never specified. An apalling affront to reason and public discourse.

Or like when Trump said that inner cities were a disaster because Democrats had failed the black community, and the response was, "look, he's saying racist things about black people!" The statement was a direct criticism of elected Democrats and their policies, and how they failed to help inner cities if not actually harming them. Could not have been less racist.

Comment Re:The question is this (Score 1) 481

You're conflating different forms of diversity. People living in cities tend to have different perspectives and concerns than people living in rural areas. People living in a city like Atlanta, with its growing tech and film industries, may have different concerns than someone living in Detroit, a dying industrial city. Attitudes and perspectives in the rust, bible and corn belts vary. The concerns of Northern and Southern border states vary. What's important to Ohio may be irrelevant to Florida. Etc.

For as culturally and ethnically diverse as cities tend to be, they tend not to be all that diverse politically. The electoral college maintains the relevance of regional political diversity. Geography remains a "big deal" despite the fading economic importance of agriculture. The urban/rural divide has nothing to do with farming, it's about needs, attitudes and perspectives.

Comment Re:Under Trump, hate speech is encouraged! (Score 1) 427

I'm not going to deny that the country has had an inconsistent and often unpleasant, unfair or outright cruel attitude towards homosexuality. Despite having had at least one 'openishly' gay President. In fact, attitudes seem to express historical cycles with eras of indifference and rejection coming and going. Over the last twenty years or so, we have been in a phase of outright acceptance across the political spectrum. But conservatives are slow to change (it's in the name), and not amenable to being pushed into it. They can also be incredibly warm, loving and accepting; you just have to engage with them in similar fashion.

To them, gay marriage is a shocking and massive change to an ancient and fundamental concept, redefining something central to their world-view. It takes time to adjust, and things like protesting businesses and calling them homophobes is entirely counterproductive. The actual homophobes are rare, and painting all conservatives with that brush instead of letting them adjust and come around prompts resistance and rejection. Protesting outside a fast food restaurant and shouting insults doesn't work. Talk with them, listen to their concerns and express yours. Break down the barrier of "the other" with friendly engagement. They will listen. Show them there's nothing to worry about, and they'll come around. Call them bigots, and they will dig in and plug their ears.

Love works, anger does not.

Comment Re:Not very smart (Score 1) 497

I remember when he said that 2nd Amendment supporters could stop her, not that they could use the 2nd to stop her. The NRA is one of the most powerful lobbies there is. Right up there with the AARP. I remember when he did not explicitly agree to accept the outcome, saying instead things like, "we'll see", and, "I'll keep you in suspense". That last one gave me a chuckle, because he was busting balls and I find that funny. I also remember how it was put in the context of the 2000 election, and that he wrapped an implicit statement of acceptance in a joke about how he'd immediately accept the results if he won. And yes, I do remember him saying the entire system, including elections, is rigged. I wouldn't go that far, but there is a valid argument to be made.

But in the end, none of it matters because he won handily and it was the other side that rejected the outcome and took to the streets for... Are the protests still going on? It's been over a week.

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