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How Apple -- and Millennials -- Stopped the Rise of eBooks (vox.com) 156

As this decade winds to a close, Vox looks back 10 years to when ebooks "appeared poised to disrupt the publishing industry on a fundamental level." Analysts confidently predicted that millennials would embrace ebooks with open arms and abandon print books, that ebook sales would keep rising to take up more and more market share, that the price of ebooks would continue to fall, and that publishing would be forever changed. Instead, at the other end of the decade, ebook sales seem to have stabilized at around 20 percent of total book sales, with print sales making up the remaining 80 percent. "Five or 10 years ago," says Andrew Albanese, a senior writer at trade magazine Publishers Weekly and the author of The Battle of $9.99, "you would have thought those numbers would have been reversed."

And in part, Albanese tells Vox in a phone interview, that's because the digital natives of Gen Z and the millennial generation have very little interest in buying ebooks. "They're glued to their phones, they love social media, but when it comes to reading a book, they want John Green in print," he says. The people who are actually buying ebooks? Mostly boomers. "Older readers are glued to their e-readers," says Albanese. "They don't have to go to the bookstore. They can make the font bigger. It's convenient."

Ebooks aren't only selling less than everyone predicted they would at the beginning of the decade. They also cost more than everyone predicted they would -- and consistently, they cost more than their print equivalents... The Department of Justice accused Apple and the Big Six publishing houses of colluding to fix ebook prices against Amazon, and although the DOJ won its case in court, the pricing model that Apple and the publishers created together would continue to dominate the industry, creating unintended ripple effects... "Overnight, because of this conspiracy, ebook prices went from $9.99 to $14.99," says Albanese. "That set the tone for the future of the ebook right there...." While [presiding judge] Cote's sanctions required publishers to briefly modify the agency model so that resellers could set their own prices, within a few years, those sanctions expired. Today, the agency model that Apple developed is once again the standard sales model for ebooks.

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How Apple -- and Millennials -- Stopped the Rise of eBooks

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  • well (Score:2, Troll)

    by hjf ( 703092 )

    well.. ebooks can cost $0.00 if you know where to look

    • Re:well (Score:5, Informative)

      by _Sharp'r_ ( 649297 ) <sharper@TWAINboo ... com minus author> on Sunday December 29, 2019 @02:36AM (#59566620) Homepage Journal

      Unsurprisingly, as this is from Vox, but the article completely misses reality. Ebook sales continue to climb and to increase their share of book sales, but the numbers he's citing only take into account American Association of Publishers numbers. The numbers cited completely ignore [geekwire.com] who sells 45% of eBooks [justpublishingadvice.com], Indies and small presses. The Big 5 are down to publishing only 13% of Amazon's best-seller list.

      So yeah, it's true that since the big publishers decided to keep their eBook prices high to try and preserve their print sales, those publishers don't sell as many eBooks as they might. It's also true that many authors prefer 70% royalties to 10% royalties and readers prefer eBook prices in the $2.99-6.99 range instead of "might as well buy the print book" levels. They've both moved their transactions out of tradpub. If you count those sales, eBooks have been outselling print for a few years now and the sales continue to grow.

      • I'm seeing eBooks as common, if not more than regular books. Yes, eBooks may be a "boomer" thing, but there is nothing like the convenience of having all your reading available on your device, and oftentimes, you can buy the physical book, get the eBook free or at a discount, so might as well have both.

        A lot of eBooks, and good ones are prices well under $10. I've picked up a number of "penny dreadful" anthologies which had medicore writing, but for a cent per story, I can deal with some duds.

        The advantag

      • Re:well (Score:5, Informative)

        by Spacejock ( 727523 ) on Sunday December 29, 2019 @04:47AM (#59566806)
        I was trad-pubbed earlier this century (2004-2010), then got my rights back and went indie instead. I'm now a full-time author with almost 30 novels, all of them selling roughly 96% ebook and 4% paperback. (My audio outsells paperback, even though I only have 30% of my stuff in that format)

        Genre matters, though. Indie scifi and fantasy do just fine, whilst indie middle-grade fiction is a wash. (Ask me how I know ...)
        • Ask me how I know ...

          How do you know? Not a joke, genuinely curious.

          • Re:well (Score:4, Informative)

            by _Sharp'r_ ( 649297 ) <sharper@TWAINboo ... com minus author> on Sunday December 29, 2019 @07:57AM (#59567086) Homepage Journal

            He presumably tried writing middle-grade.

            The problem with Indie middle-grade is that:
            1. Middle-grade readers don't buy their own books as much. Typically it's a parent, teacher, or librarian recommending and/or buying.
            2. They sell lots of books via scholastic and school promotions.
            3. They are less likely to have expensive electronic devices (although that may be changing).
            4. Tradpub has the "awards" locked up. Newberry and such is still important in the middle-grade market.

            All of that adds up to a tough sale for Indies in middle-grade, especially compared to say Romance, Sci-Fi, Mystery, etc... where 80-90% of sales are eBooks to people spending their own money.

            (Yes, I'm also an author, which is why I also know so much about the market. Even though I write military techno-thrillers, I keep up with the rest.)

        • by jhecht ( 143058 ) on Sunday December 29, 2019 @10:50AM (#59567330)
          Ebooks are hot in some fields, cold in others. Heavy readers of genre fiction -- Sci-fi/fantasy and romance --- love them, and they read a lot, so they are supporting a group of indie writers who specialize in those genres. The indies don't get counted in many surveys. Yet in many other fields ebooks are stuck around 20% of the market. For the past several years, my nonfiction books have been selling maybe 20% ebooks and 80% print copies, fairly consistently whether they are pop-science or technical tutorials. I think that's partly reader preference for the print experience, and part that ereaders and phones don't display complex material well, whether it's a nicely illustrated coffee-table book or technical diagrams. Something that the survey misses altogether is that scholarly and professional journals in many fields have shifted almost entirely to electronic format, but in full-page PDF, not in e-reader formats. They're not sold as books, so they don't show up in market surveys, but they are part of the publishing market. PDF rules that market because it can present complex material; ereaders are built for text-only narrative.
      • It's also true that many authors prefer 70% royalties to 10% royalties

        Publishers probably don't... Maybe that's why they keep the price of e-books high: in that market, they set the terms; authors can take it or leave it. But in a thriving e-book market, why would anyone need a publisher? Hire a good editor and proofreader on your own terms and you're good to go.

        • Or be very, very friggin' lucky like I was and stumble across a friendly person on a stick insect forum, make friends, find out later he's an editor and wants to start editing your stories, then stay friends for almost twenty years as he helps develop your books' world view.

          Great guy. Love ya, Ogre. (An ironic nickname considering the genre he's editing.)
      • by Jahta ( 1141213 )

        So yeah, it's true that since the big publishers decided to keep their eBook prices high to try and preserve their print sales, those publishers don't sell as many eBooks as they might. It's also true that many authors prefer 70% royalties to 10% royalties and readers prefer eBook prices in the $2.99-6.99 range instead of "might as well buy the print book" levels. They've both moved their transactions out of tradpub. If you count those sales, eBooks have been outselling print for a few years now and the sales continue to grow.

        And let's not forget, DRM issues and remote deletion of ebooks you bought and paid for [digitaltrends.com] didn't help the cause either. Publishers that play fair with their customers have tended to do well. Publishers (and retailers) that try to micro-manage their customers use of ebooks, not so much.

    • Re: well (Score:4, Informative)

      by dargaud ( 518470 ) <[ten.duagradg] [ta] [2todhsals]> on Sunday December 29, 2019 @04:38AM (#59566794) Homepage
      I like to pay for ebooks because I want to support the authors I like. And anyway I don't read that many books, so it's not a big spending. But when I see the price of the ebook significantly higher than the print book, it pisses me off and I do pirate it. I don't like being ripped off; like most people I guess.
      • I like to pay for ebooks because I want to support the authors I like. And anyway I don't read that many books, so it's not a big spending. But when I see the price of the ebook significantly higher than the print book, it pisses me off and I do pirate it. I don't like being ripped off; like most people I guess.

        Yeah, probably the guy you're ripping off is pissed at you. And if you dared to think about it, the high-priced ebook seller isn't ripping you off; you're not being forced to buy what he's selling. Thus, you're the only scumbag in your message.

    • Re: (Score:2, Troll)

      Actually a good point: Could the apparent lack of interest in ebooks in the millennial demographic be in part explained by higher piracy rates?

      • Better question: Could the apparent lack of interest in ebooks in the millenial demographic be explained by commercial ebooks being a DRM-crippled piece of shit?

        I'm a millenial. I read e-books regularly but I make them myself from public domain books on Wikisource. It's just a few lines of Python to convert HTML to DocBook and then apply the open souce XSLT stylesheets to generate Epub and PDF.

      • People see ebooks as having less intrinsic value than a paper book, they expect the ebook to have a lower cost. Why rent an ebook when you can own it on paper for the same price?
        • Exactly. There is a small percentage that value the portability or zooming features of ebooks but everyone else would rather just have the physical book. Also ebook pricing doesnâ(TM)t take into account the used or discount market. Itâ(TM)s pretty common to see the print book at a significant discount to the ebook version when it should be the opposite.

    • Our local council has an excellent e library. 2 week loans and it’s a free service!

    • Exactly that. Is it surprising that 80% of sales are physical? No because I'd guess for every 1 digital sale there's 10 $0.00 discounted items.

      Same thing if you consider dvd rentals vs digital set top boxes about 8 yrs back. It'd make you think there was still a market for video stores, till you realize every apple store or whatever download/rent was followed by 20 or so torrented copies. The demand is way way higher than the money going into the system and it's being met by pirated copies, or shared netfli

  • by ClueHammer ( 6261830 ) on Sunday December 29, 2019 @01:12AM (#59566490)
    Based on age. It is disgusting and discriminatory. Its is just another ism, like racism and sexism and must stop!
    • Well, at the end, it is self-hatred.
      After all a generation does not grow in vacuum, detached from parents, society and history. If the millennials failed in some aspects the blame should go to their parents and grandparents too.

      Anyway, self-hatred is quite prominent among westerners these days...

      • After all a generation does not grow in vacuum, detached from parents, society and history. If the millennials failed in some aspects the blame should go to their parents and grandparents too.

        Quite: the participation prize generation (if there is such a thing) didn't award themselves pries for taking part, their parents did.

    • Or is the hated group supposed to be bibliophiles? Stop looking at me. I only read 241 books this year. None of them were ebooks.

      I actually tried to read ebooks. Started trying some years ago, and did manage to finish a few books in electronic form, but never enjoyed the experience, even when the books were well written. Tactile thing? Or just contamination and revulsion because of Amazon's dominance? Can't say enough bad things about Amazon, but the market has spoken and I'm obviously wrong. Can't even do

    • This decade has also been about justifying your hate because you're hating 'the right people'. They deserve it after all right? So it's ok to be a hypocrite and do the exact thing you scold others for doing because somehow when you do it it's justified. If I had to give a one word description to this decade it would be Hypocrisy.
    • by EvilSS ( 557649 )
      OK Boomer
  • I feel like throwing Apple in the headline was just there to grab eyeballs. Every publisher (as the actual information shows) controlled pricing and policy. That's not surprising. Why do we need to feel some inferiority complex when it comes to Apple where we can't have a story that doesn't mention their name as the prime mover?
    • I think that most articles that contain "Millennials" in the headline use it to grab eyeballs. It works for those who like to blame Millennials for things and of course also for Millennials who are offended by it. And the following article is usually profoundly dumb in their analysis of things not being worth to be read otherwise.
    • Well you know we have to hear from the #1 ebook retailer to know how the biz is going, oh wait ...

  • by RitchCraft ( 6454710 ) on Sunday December 29, 2019 @01:35AM (#59566526)
    I really tried to use eBooks on everything from a Kindle, to an iPad, to laptops, but it just never felt "right". I just couldn't get used to reading print from a screen for long periods of time. I still prefer good old-fashioned books, especially when it comes to technical reads such as programming bibles. I feel that I can find information quicker and easier with a paper book than I can with an eBook. Perhaps I'm just showing my age?
    • eBooks aren't as good for reference. Try an e-ink reader for novels though...
      • by ceoyoyo ( 59147 ) on Sunday December 29, 2019 @01:51AM (#59566560)

        Huh? The ability to search is the killer app for reference books. Novels are good on e-ink readers, particularly when you need to move them.

        • The ability to search is the killer app for reference books.

          I agree that searching *should* make it easier for reference material. For some reason though it still feels strange to me.

          • When it comes to reference materials, search is really convenient, *after* you've already read the book.

            The first time through, though, it's so much easier to "skip around" with a paper book. Plus, with a paper book that you are really familiar with, you develop a bunch of "mental bookmarks", and know approximately where in the book things are. I do this with fiction, too. With my physical books, I know where the good parts are physically located, and can get to them easily. For studying, that kind of famil

            • by ceoyoyo ( 59147 )

              Try a good tablet PDF viewer. Your own highlights and comments in searchable form. Most also have a quick access index so you can jump around.

      • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

        I want an e-paper tablet that can display things like datasheets and reference web pages. It needs to be A4 size and have access to files on my local network (SMB). It also needs to be cheap and the battery last for a very long time.

        Also I want the moon on the stick, but that's by the by.

        These kinds of tablets exist and run Android, but are expensive. Technology Connections on YouTube bought a couple and reviewed them. He uses one to edit scripts.

    • by drnb ( 2434720 ) on Sunday December 29, 2019 @04:38AM (#59566796)

      I really tried to use eBooks on everything from a Kindle, to an iPad, to laptops, but it just never felt "right". I just couldn't get used to reading print from a screen for long periods of time. I still prefer good old-fashioned books, especially when it comes to technical reads such as programming bibles. I feel that I can find information quicker and easier with a paper book than I can with an eBook. Perhaps I'm just showing my age?

      I largely agree. However for plain ordinary books with just text the Kindle Paperwhite was a breakthrough for me. The first device I could read novels on hour after hour comfortably, felt just like paper in that regard.

      Technical books I still lean towards paper. For ones I may need on the road (i.e. work) I will use an iPad so that graphics and illustrations are readable. Fortunately I've read the book on paper so I am just briefly looking something up on the iPad so its all short duration stuff. But that's about it for a traditional tablet.

    • by PhrostyMcByte ( 589271 ) <phrosty@gmail.com> on Sunday December 29, 2019 @08:30AM (#59567150) Homepage

      Its because ereaders don't do book-quality typography.

      With a good book you get things like ligatures, paragraph-optimized justification, hanging punctuation, and optically-sized margins. All of these little things work together to make reading easier, and a reader will never even notice. When you try an ereader and these things are gone, at best you can tell something is wrong but can't quite put your finger on it, and at worst the experience has really obvious warts.

      These things are totally possible to do automatically, but the ereader companies don't seem to care enough and would rather just present what is basically a website.

  • by Gravis Zero ( 934156 ) on Sunday December 29, 2019 @01:35AM (#59566528)

    The issue was never the content, it was the absurd price of it compounded by low wages.

    Selling e-books that only works on a particular reader (which is expensive to start with) and then price it at 95% of the price for the physical object then you are going to deter people. They made e-books expensive and they loaded them with DRM all while knowing that they would sell fewer but net a higher profit.

    On top of this, the generations with the lowest wages aren't about to start throwing money at everything because they don't have money to throw. Boomers can keep crying about how Millennials are "ruining" everything but the honest truth is they created this problem (and several others).

    There is no mystery to what stopped the rise of e-books, it was and still is greed.

    • by adrn01 ( 103810 ) on Sunday December 29, 2019 @01:54AM (#59566564)
      Also, you can still *easily* read a paper book you bought 20 years ago. Does anyone imagine that a DRM-locked ebook will be guaranteed readable even 10 years from now?
      • by ajkieser ( 450423 ) on Sunday December 29, 2019 @03:50AM (#59566714)

        As a "Boomer glued to an eBookReader" I started with eBooks about 10 years ago (when the "HD" era began on eInk-Displays). And 10 years further I'll be able to read those eBooks from 10 years ago just fine (or in 20 years...).

        There's a reason for this and this reason isn't a pleasant one: from the fist purchase on I've stripped all DRM (which is forbidden) and changed all deviant formats to epub. That means in consequence the whole consume of eBooks is basically self-service - the market does not support this technique. It is possible and a working solution (for me) just because of -1- incredible software package: Calibre. As long as Calibre is working, consuming eBooks is possible.

      • The only eBooks I'ma ware of that have DRM are Amazon kindles.
        All others are simply *.epubs ... perhaps you want to visit http://gutenberg.org/ [gutenberg.org] once ...

        • Kindles are the only e-readers that *don't* support epub. Quite deliberately though. If they supported epub, people might be able to buy or obtain their ebooks from someone other than Amazon, and Amazon isn't going to let that happen easily.

          I tried to buy an e-reader on Amazon just last week. Interesting observation: If you search for "nook" or "kobo" on Amazon, most of the results it returns are for the Kindle. Even when you are explicitly searching for someone else's brand, Amazon search will still helpfu

          • I like my Kobo, and I have a Nook, too.

            Background is: they both run Linux and not a castrated Android. You can root them and make funny toys with them. And as ebook readers they are ok. Kindle, at least the App, simply sucks in my eyes (I have(had) a kindle app on my android tablet(iPad) ... incredible primitiv).

          • as the previous post said: Calibre. Problem solved. ebooks aren't just for boomers, anyone moderately technical could in a few minutes find out calibre or the like exist can easily cross convert files and discover torrents and never pay for books again. Or buy undrm'd books from whatever store they want and convert it to their kindle. Or heck comparison shop ebook readers and have bought something not a kindle in the first place.

            My mother is a boomer and she has a technical son. So she hands me her device,

      • I am in development, i have seen standard change and morph and i expect them to further change and morph, and i expect fully current ebook to be "obsoleted" at some point to force a new buy in. Also I can gift my book , loan them, takes a few seconds. If I had children they could inherit them. Same with film and dvd really.
        • I am in development, i have seen standard change and morph and i expect them to further change and morph, and i expect fully current ebook to be "obsoleted" at some point to force a new buy in.

          Ebooks are simple to convert into other formats (epub/mobi/...). As long as no DRM is involved, it will always be possible to write a converter.

      • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 ) on Sunday December 29, 2019 @09:05AM (#59567188) Homepage Journal

        Hmm, let me see, $15 for a single DRM infected eBook or $0 to download 100k_ebooks.torrent that will work on any device forever.

        This is a hard one.

      • That is where my thoughts went too.

        The ebooks I have read are public domain. Most recently Jane Austen. No DRM there.

    • by rossdee ( 243626 )

      "Selling e-books that only works on a particular reader (which is expensive to start with)"

      You can get a 7inch Fire for Fifty bucks brand new - how is that expensive.
      and of course you can use it as an internet tablet too.

      Of course there is also a free reader app for your android phone and PC .

      Some Kindle eBooks are $3 or less

      But the big thing for me is being able to read in a slighly larger font, white text on a black background. (I have vision problems)

    • What file format are these DRM ebooks? I've ever only seen .mobi and .epub files.

      • by Zumbs ( 1241138 )
        .epub can also have DRM associated with them. Adobe DRM is quite popular and used by pretty much all ebooks published by four of the big five: Hachette, HarperCollins, Penguin Random House, Simon & Schuster. Macmillan has some imprints that do not use DRM, but I am not sure if it is all of them.
  • by hawguy ( 1600213 ) on Sunday December 29, 2019 @01:52AM (#59566562)

    Ebooks aren't only selling less than everyone predicted they would at the beginning of the decade. They also cost more than everyone predicted they would -- and consistently, they cost more than their print equivalents

    I don't think those are independent of each other. I've stopped buying most mainstream books as eBooks, I refuse to pay more for an eBook than a paper book.... and when I do buy, I buy a used copy. Pretty much the only eBooks i purchase are from small independent/self-publishing sites like Smashwords, though I also enjoy reading (or re-reading) many of the classics from https://www.gutenberg.org/ [gutenberg.org] as eBooks

    • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

      These people live in some bizarre world where people will lock themselves in to their platform and pay even more for "convenience" or something.

      Even the mad bastards at the MPAA didn't think they could charge MORE for a broken DRMed copy of an album than for the CD.

    • Ebooks aren't only selling less than everyone predicted they would at the beginning of the decade. They also cost more than everyone predicted they would -- and consistently, they cost more than their print equivalents

      I don't think those are independent of each other. I've stopped buying most mainstream books as eBooks, I refuse to pay more for an eBook than a paper book.... and when I do buy, I buy a used copy.

      Yep, that's how I fight back against excessively high prices, both digital and dead tree: Used books.

      • That's my big beef with DRMed eBooks (Amazon, etc.) - after you've read the book you can't pass it on to a friend or donate it to the Salvation Army so someone else can read it.

        There's this policy (Amazon, etc.) that you can "lend" some (but not all) eBooks out once in a lifetime for, I think, two weeks. And that's it.

        So I go for used paper books whenever possible, which is almost always.
  • I was skeptical back in the early 2000's when e-readers first appeared. However I was avoiding reading, I didn't want to buy books (just more 'stuff', and sucks when moving), and the library was more of a rental model, since it could vary greatly week-to-week how much time I actually had to read.

    Stopped in a local Sony store and took a look at their reader, and was instantly hooked. That model was a bit slower to turn pages, but was still pretty fast, and the text was great to read.

    Bought a newer model seve

  • The price of a used printed book is much cheaper than the ebook. Note that this means the publishers make less money, as they aren't selling me either the ebook or a new printed one, yet I still bought the book. I suspect that the high ebook prices are not maximizing profits for the publishers.
  • by bobstreo ( 1320787 ) on Sunday December 29, 2019 @02:17AM (#59566594)

    The fault really lies with the actual "Publishers".

    They took the easy way out, instead of creating a common industry interface for purchase themselves, and let Apple and Amazon do all the heavy lifting for a few percent of the profits.

    If the publishers hadn't avoided the whole sales part of e-books, prices would have probably fallen quite a bit, as there would have been some actual competition.

    • by tlhIngan ( 30335 ) <[ten.frow] [ta] [todhsals]> on Sunday December 29, 2019 @06:56AM (#59566998)

      If the publishers hadn't avoided the whole sales part of e-books, prices would have probably fallen quite a bit, as there would have been some actual competition.

      No, prices will not have fallen.

      The reason ebooks are expensive is because books are expensive. The actual electrons part versus having to ship deadtree around is extremely low - over the course of printing, warehousing, shipping, retailing, etc, the total cost of all that per book amounts to well under 10% - usually a couple of bucks tops.

      We've had centuries of experience of moving books around efficiently and cheaply that it doesn't cost too much. Most of the cost is in retailer markups - there's a reason why Amazon can offer 40% discount on books - the retailer markup is around 100% so even discounting 40% Amazon still makes money over the wholesale price (Amazon's "retail" price would be 200% of what it costs Amazon to buy it from the publisher. thus a 40% discount still means Amazon makes money. If Amazon discounted it 50%, they'd be selling at wholesale price).

      Since such discounts are extremely common with print books, you can't really discount the ebook any less - the wholesale price would be slightly slower due to not needing to ship or warehouse, but it's so efficient you're saving a dollar or two over the print version. So in the end, you're not saving too much more money, but getting things much worse with DRM and all that.

      And don't forget while Amazon is discounting 40%, that's because they're doing it on volume - they can order 100 pallets of the book and sell basically 99 of them at 40% discount making money, and the last pallet will be sold at milder discounts of 20% or so because it's off the "new list". So Amazon is moving the physical product quickly to get cashflow going and quick profits. The ebook will often not be discounted - if you're so impatient to read it you probably will just pay full price over buying the "inconvenient" paper version.

      It's just how the market works - Amazon doesn't need to discount the electronic version as much because people will pay the increased prices (and it costs little for Amazon), while Amazon moving 99 pallets of a book quickly generates quick profits and cashflow and frees up warehouse space. In other words, physical books are efficient, but still cost money to store and can represent money locked up in inventory. Ebooks cost barely anything to store, and Amazon doesn't buy 10 million copies of an ebook that sit on a virtual shelf - they just pay the publisher every time someone buys the book, so it's not even tying up any cash.

  • Sorry but there are a lot of people like me that prefer a physical book. I prefer to read from a paper based book, I can put my bookmark in, skip back pages when I want to refer to something, it is comfortable to read in bed, doesn't need a battery and won't break if you accidentally drop it or sit on it. Many like me predicted that ebooks couldn't completely supplant paper books as you aren't going to change someone like me.
    • if yo prefer physical books, why are yo posting in an eBooks thread? You could have saved your time, our time reading your comment and my time responding ... oh ... why did I actually respond ....

  • I for one use the library. It's free, I can get on a list for new releases, and they do digital books/delivery too. I only buy books that I know I will want to keep in my personal collection. Similar to how I prefer CD over MP3, or IF I REALLY LIKE the band/artist i'll go for the vinyl.

    I want a physical copy of a book and in hardcover please. Convenience is great until one day the service is gone or your ebooks are lost A book in hand can last hundreds of years. Don/t need to plug it in, powe

    • by fred911 ( 83970 )

      'IF I REALLY LIKE the band/artist i'll go for the vinyl.'

      So you prefer less dynamic range and a higher S/N ratio that exponentially degrades each time you use it in comparison to a CD or a lossless codex. I mean you're not buying half-speed masters on virgin vinyl these days [even they don't have equal quality to a CD].

      • Dynamic range is useless on a CD when its normalized to 100%. A good example was the release Depeche Mode had in 2005. People posted screenshots of the vinyl compred to the CD versions. See https://www.diyaudio.com/forum... [diyaudio.com]

        I listen to the music, not the imperfections of the medium.

  • This is what kills digital culture.
    period !

  • Their are people who lie awake at night trying to figure out how best to fuck the human population for their own benefit. Fuck those people. Fuck those people all to Hell
  • I suppose we have this big legal battle to thank for bookshops still being around! Given the choice between a nicely printed and satisfying book or a convenient and space-saving eBook, where both cost the same, I think I'll stick with the tangible version... at least I can share the physical version plus it keeps real shops in business
  • by Solandri ( 704621 ) on Sunday December 29, 2019 @06:19AM (#59566930)

    They also cost more than everyone predicted they would -- and consistently, they cost more than their print equivalents...

    Ah, see. That's due to publishers lying through their teeth about what it is they're selling. If you buy a paper book and make photocopies of it to give to your friend, they'll scream that you can't do that! You didn't buy a book, you only bought a license for the content in the book. And the copyright to that content still belongs to them, so you can't make physical copies of it to give to anyone else.

    But if you say fine, then let me buy a license to the content of the book, they'll turn around and tell you that it'll cost you more since it's a virtual copy instead of a physical one. Regular people get this, which is why most people refuse to buy an ebook which costs more than the paper version. It's the publishers trying to live in a fantasy world where books are licenses when it comes to buyers making copies so physical and virtual books are the same. But physical and virtual books are somehow different when it comes to setting prices.

    You can't have it both ways. Either people are buying a book (and can make photocopies or virtual copies of it if they want), or they're buying a license (and the price will be the same regardless of format, maybe charge extra for materials for a physical copy).

  • I love my ereader because of the sheer number of books I can carry in one device, and the ability to change font size, ( old eyes suck!) I really wish there was a cheap 10 inch ereader available!
    Both my kids won't touch it with a barge pole, they like the tactile nature of books.!
    I suppose it goes hand in hand with vinyls resurgence.

    • I really wish there was a cheap 10 inch ereader available!

      I use exactly that, the iPad Pro. And if you want, there is a 12" version.

      Okay, new ones are not cheap, but used ones, just as good for ereading, are.

  • by Going_Digital ( 1485615 ) on Sunday December 29, 2019 @07:54AM (#59567082)
    I think it depends a lot on the type of book. Technical books have a very short shelf life before they are out-of-date, as a result I am not going to pay for a print edition. Cheap trashy novels on the other hand are probably still popular in print, reading them on a tiny kindle screen isn't the most pleasant experience and requires up-front cost of buying the hardware. Much more convenient to carry a print version around with you to read on the train or whatever.
  • Millenials are killing... flips page ebooks?

    Aren't these the same millenials that killed traditional books a few years ago?

  • So, placing a huge library (mostly tech books which change rapidly), at lower cost of ownership, on a tablet or e-reader is a âoeboomerâ thing? Sorry, it sounds like a wise use of money.

    I reserve purchasing a paperback or hardback book for literary works that I want to keep and display (after reading) on my bookshelves.

    My boys, all in their 20â(TM)s are prolific readers and spent a lot of time growing up with paper purchases borrowed from the library.

    Itâ(TM)s not a generational thing.

  • Here's an example of leveraging hate, ageism in this case, for clicks. This is what we need to reject, not patronize.

    The success/failure of ebooks has nothing to do with any "actions" taken by millennials nor is it representative of any victory by one age group over another.

    Also, the article linked to support "Analysts confidently predicted that millennials would embrace ebooks" says no such thing. Millennials aren't even referenced.

    Lizard-brained trash, nothing more.

  • OK, I'm a boomer (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Applehu Akbar ( 2968043 ) on Sunday December 29, 2019 @11:32AM (#59567414)

    The people who are actually buying ebooks? Mostly boomers. "Older readers are glued to their e-readers," says Albanese. "They don't have to go to the bookstore. They can make the font bigger. It's convenient."

    I can't speak for the overall validity of the author's stats, but his is exactly how I switched. In 2007 when I retired, we sold the city house and moved into the smaller mountain retreat. We no longer had room for thousands of books accumulated over the years, most of which we realized had only been read once, so we took the e-book plunge and haven't looked back since. E-books are just so much more convenient in all ways. I like being able to use a tablet most of the time but being able to knock off a chapter or two on the phone when I find myself standing in line for something, while Kindle automatically keeps track of where I left off on each device. I love living in the future.

    If there really is a lag in e-book adoption, blame those fixed high prices. I often see the paperback being cheaper than the Kindle edition. Become aquainted with subscription plans, and free library borrowing through Libby/Overdrive.

  • I bought one ebook once. Never again, & it's not just the price:
    • It was crippled with digital restrictions management (DRM) software which meant I had install 3rd party software loaded with surveillance & bloatware just to open it.
    • ereaders are typically minimum viable products which have the cheapest possible CPU. They're frustratingly slow & cumbersome to use, especially with non-fiction & reference books, e.g. search or switching between ToC & chapters, & leafing through pages to
  • I must be one of the few people that doesn't enjoying staring into a screen all day.

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