Study Finds Drinking Before Age 40 Has No Health Benefits, Only Risks (eurekalert.org) 102
1.34 billion people consumed harmful amounts of alcohol in 2020, according to estimates from a new study funded by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.
It also found that 59.1% of those people consuming unsafe amounts were between the ages of 15 and 39, and that for that group "there are no health benefits to drinking alcohol, only health risks.... 60% of alcohol-related injuries occurring among people in this age group, including motor vehicle accidents, suicides, and homicides."
Of the 15 to 39-year-olds consuming unsafe amounts of alcohol, 76.7% were male. For adults over age 40, health risks from alcohol consumption vary by age and region. Consuming a small amount of alcohol (for example, drinking between one and two 3.4-ounce glasses of red wine) for people in this age group can provide some health benefits, such as reducing the risk of cardiovascular disease, stroke, and diabetes...
Authors call for alcohol consumption guidelines to be revised to emphasise consumption levels by age, stressing that the level of alcohol consumption recommended by many existing guidelines is too high for young people in all regions. They also call for policies targeting males under age 40, who are most likely to use alcohol harmfully.
It also found that 59.1% of those people consuming unsafe amounts were between the ages of 15 and 39, and that for that group "there are no health benefits to drinking alcohol, only health risks.... 60% of alcohol-related injuries occurring among people in this age group, including motor vehicle accidents, suicides, and homicides."
Of the 15 to 39-year-olds consuming unsafe amounts of alcohol, 76.7% were male. For adults over age 40, health risks from alcohol consumption vary by age and region. Consuming a small amount of alcohol (for example, drinking between one and two 3.4-ounce glasses of red wine) for people in this age group can provide some health benefits, such as reducing the risk of cardiovascular disease, stroke, and diabetes...
Authors call for alcohol consumption guidelines to be revised to emphasise consumption levels by age, stressing that the level of alcohol consumption recommended by many existing guidelines is too high for young people in all regions. They also call for policies targeting males under age 40, who are most likely to use alcohol harmfully.
Great study, I'll drink to that! (Score:5, Insightful)
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Questionable study (Score:4, Interesting)
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The problem with the study is that the article suggests that it includes alcohol-related injuries:
...drinking alcohol does not provide any health benefits and presents many health risks, with 60% of alcohol-related injuries occurring among people in this age group, including motor vehicle accidents, suicides, and homicides.
If that's correct then this is probably why the risks go down for those over 40 and the safe drink limit for men is less that for women despite the larger average body mass. While these sorts of injuries are arguably part of the health risks of drinking alcohol they are highly dependent on the volume consumed at one time not the average consumption over time.
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One of my permanent scars were caused by falling over with a carton of beer while drinking (but the carton of beer survived) , one by stacking my bicycle spectacularly as a kid, one from doing a backflip into the pool badly when I was a kid a couple from kicking steel dockside bollards with my shins when jumping off sailing boats in my 20's and 30's. One from a shoulder reconstruction after dislocating it snowboarding in my 20's.
So I'd say about sailing's twice as dangerous as drinking, but the dangers of d
Thank God I'm 66 (Score:1)
These young whippersnappers are fucked!
Re: Thank God I'm 66 (Score:2)
New Slashdot headline: US drinking age raised from 21 to 40! Xenials and above rejoice.
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There is not a lot new here. We know conclusively from the US prohibition that banning alcohol consumption reduces alcohol related diseases as well as alcohol related social problems like impaired driving and alcohol fueled aggression. ... but we like the taxes.
Oh, and prohibition fueled a criminal economy that was not so positive, but again we like the taxes.
Re:Great study, send them more money (Score:5, Insightful)
Oh, and prohibition fueled a criminal economy that was not so positive, but again we like the taxes.
Still continues to, except today we call it "the war on drugs", and the taxes are called "civil forfeiture".
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er, "criminal economy" sort of encompasses "gangs" I think.
Re: Great study, send them more money (Score:2)
Well, no, it backs the opposite.
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there are no health benefits to drinking alcohol, (Score:5, Funny)
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what about it gets loads of people under 40 laid each week?
...and you just explained a lot of how impaired judgement leads to STDs getting around.
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So is your hypothesis that STDs weren't a thing before the adoption of alcohol? Or that it doesn't exist in sobe4 populations?
Regardless, take your moral judgement and bugger off. Alcohol use may be one variable in promiscuity, but it's hardly alone. Better be disdainful of flowers and sports cars too?
Re:there are no health benefits to drinking alcoho (Score:5, Insightful)
what about it gets loads of people under 40 laid each week?
They, and society as a whole, are much better off if reproduction isn't a drunken mistake.
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You don't have to drink alcohol to have a good time?
You don't have to wear shoes to run a marathon, but it fuckin helps!
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The quotation you were desperately looking for is: the doses makes the poison [wikipedia.org].
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I pointed that out to someone else. Drink enough water and see what happens. Consume 1kg of salt and see what happens. Consume enough apple seeds and see what happens.
Re: Alcohol is a poison (Score:2)
That's not what the science says.
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Huh? The science, as interpreted by the WHO's International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC), says that alcoholic drinks are known human carcinogens. Just like both tobacco smoking and smokeless tobacco.
The word "Botox" is short for botulinum toxin; it's definitely a poison.
Silicone is debatable. Liquid silicone should not be used within the body, but other than that it's generally recognized as safe for its intended applications. You could beat somebody to death with a silicone implement, but it's
Put that dildo down ! (Score:2)
" You could beat somebody to death with a silicone implement"
Put that dildo down, you little sadist !
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Alcohol above a certain threshold is a carcinogen. Virtually all substances have thresholds for both desirable and undesirable properties. Oxygen is a poison above a certain threshold, but very necessary below that level and above the minimum level needed to sustain life. Alcohol has similar thresholds. There exists a threshold, shown by this study to vary with age, above which it is beneficial, provided it is below the toxic threshold, which also varies with age.
THAT is what the science says.
Why is the rum gone? (Score:1)
They also call for policies targeting males under age 40, who are most likely to use alcohol harmfully.
Boy, they're really pulling out all the stops these days to increase youth voting turnout. Threatening to take away the booze is a new one.
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Life is no fun without 151.
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Life is no fun without 151.
Have fond childhood memories of spitting 151 into the campfire. Also really chapped lips.
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What I'm more afraid of is bland life than anything else, so boozus maximus to that! :)
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Threatening to take away the booze is a new one
Literally nobody is recommending that. The entire section that talks about policies is titled.
Age and region should drive alcohol consumption policies
And then it gets into minutiae about the subject.
The recommended amount of alcohol for people aged 15-39 before risking health loss was 0.136 standard drinks per day. . .
And basically puts the onus on governments to take that information and do something, nothing, pretend to care, or whatever they want to do with that information.
At no point does anyone say they are taking your fucking alcohol and I am done with this bullshit of people inventing things that papers distinctly did not say to wax whatever outrage boner they are wanting
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From What Perspective? (Score:5, Insightful)
Life is full of risks and choices.
I don't believe that the point of life is to try to live as long as absolutely possible.
I don't believe the point of life is to worry about every perceived threat around every corner.
This is fodder for the puritan crowd, and those that want to "maximize their ROI".
For the rest of us, we won't know any better once we're dead.
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Most people of action are inclined to fatalism and most of thought believe in providence. - David Viscott
Re:From What Perspective? (Score:5, Informative)
This is fodder for the puritan crowd, and those that want to "maximize their ROI".
They're not saying that any and all alcohol consumption before the age of 40 is harmful. They merely say it has no health benefits. Additionally:
The recommended amount of alcohol for people aged 15-39 before risking health loss was 0.136 standard drinks per day (a little more than one-tenth of a standard drink). That amount was slightly higher for females aged 15-39 years at 0.273 drinks (about a quarter of a standard drink per day). One standard drink is defined as 10 grams of pure alcohol, which is equivalent to a small glass of red wine (100ml or 3.4 fluid ounces) at 13% alcohol by volume, a can or bottle of beer (375 ml or 12 fluid ounces) at 3.5% alcohol by volume, or a shot of whiskey or other spirits (30 ml or 1.0 fluid ounces) at 40% alcohol by volume. /quote
Re: From What Perspective? (Score:3)
I wouldn't call it fodder for Puritans (Score:3)
One of my favorite videos of all time is a tobacco executive saying that while it's true that babies born to mothers who smoke are smaller there's no evidence those babies aren't healthy (a lie and he knew at the time he was lying) and he chu
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One of my favorite videos of all time is a tobacco executive saying that while it's true that babies born to mothers who smoke are smaller there's no evidence those babies aren't healthy (a lie and he knew at the time he was lying) and he chuckled and said some mothers my prefer smaller babies...
I'm assuming that "video" is the movie Thank You for Smoking [imdb.com] - which was surprisingly good.
I've only seen the clip (Score:2)
The internet gives you access to a wide array of information sources, making it possible to get out of information silos [youtube.com] in a way that wasn't possible in the past.
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I think younger folks, when they get the good feeling from drinking, they figure if they drink even more they will feel better.
While older folks (who are not addicted) are more likely to know to stop when they just start feeling good. Knowing more will not make them feel any better.
I also expect those under 40 have less general aches and pains, then those over 40, so when our normal aches die down, we know that we had enough. While those younger kids who actually feel good anyways probably don't know that
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Oh dear. Alcohol isn't a health food? Who knew? (Score:2)
I am not sure who decided that we all drink because it's clearly part of the FDA nutrition pyramid scam, or nutrition totem pole, or nutrition parallelogram... whatever they're using these days.
Next up! There are no health benefits to consuming lollipops before the age of 40 and, furthermore, it should be illegal to sell candy to people younger than 21.
Re: Oh dear. Alcohol isn't a health food? Who knew (Score:2)
Ahh the good ol food pyramid where we were supposed to eat 11 servings of bread every day.
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Not health food, but Alcohol has been a dietary staple for many civilizations for thousands of years. Fermenting sugars to Alcohol is a good way to preserve food, from more harmful bacteria and fungi, as well preserve the calorie intake. We don't think of Pickled, Brine, Smoked, Candied foods as health food as well. However we used these processes to allow food to last over the growing seasons, and give us enough nutrients and calories to make it for the next season.
The legal issues around Alcohol isn't
Grape (Score:5, Interesting)
>"Consuming a small amount of alcohol (for example, drinking between one and two 3.4-ounce glasses of red wine) for people in this age group can provide some health benefits, such as reducing the risk of cardiovascular disease, stroke, and diabetes..."
I am so tired of hearing the above being used as a "benefit" of drinking alcohol. What is beneficial in red wine is grape, not alcohol. You can get the same benefits by drinking red grape juice. Personally, I take grape extract supplement, since I am not fond of grape juice.
Re: Grape (Score:4, Funny)
TL;DR grape juice makes vodka good for you
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Almost like nature intended it this way.
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Yeah .. but you know the best exercise bike is the one that you will use. Same thing with drinks. If you aren't going to drink grape juice regularly then red wine is an alternative.
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Re: Grape (Score:2)
Except you don't.
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>"Except you don't."
Don't what, take grape extract?? Um, yes I do. And, in fact, I took one just minutes ago. Along with a multi, D, and Niacin. I have taken grape extract daily for 20+ years.
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Grape extract and grape juice have been shown in multiple studies to NOT provide the same benefit as red wine. What you take is your own damn problem.
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There are also risks with unfermented grapes however. Higher sugar content, and a smooth taste that doesn't encourage slow consumption isn't exactly good for blood sugar.
It's probably not the alcohol that makes grapes healthy, or the sugar but the phyto-nutrients in the skins.
Similar to tobacco (Score:4, Informative)
Alcohol is poison.
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Alcohol is poison.
"The dose makes the poison." -Paracelsus
Beer Goggles (Score:2)
Well, there are plenty of social benefits to drinking alcohol...including Beer Goggles.
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If alcohol didn't exist, there'd be much fewer ugly people in the world.
What about psychological health? (Score:3, Insightful)
Re: What about psychological health? (Score:2)
Without alcohol they might have learned better coping skills. I say this as a drunk (only alcoholics go to meetings) who sucks at social situations.
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Alcohol is not a good treatment for anxiety. When the effects of the alcohol wear off the anxiety returns more strongly. Of course you can drink again and again - constantly increasing the dose to counter the effects of tolerance - but you risk becoming addicted.
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Start by asking yourself, "if I go talk to that girl I like, what's the worst that can happen?" and realise that even the worst is better than nothing at all - at least if you get a very negative response, you know that approach doesn't work and try something different next time. Trying nothing means you will learn nothing.
It might also help to stop thinking of her as a "girl" and start thinking of her as a person with various different interests just like yourself, that you may or may not share. If someone
No health benefit intentend (Score:2)
It got me laid more than once (Score:2)
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This casual discussion of "alcohol gets you laid lol" is uncomfortable and creepy.
Consent under the influence is not clear consent at all.
Drinking After Age 40 doesn't have any either (Score:2)
Propegation (Score:2)
Study full of estimates, assumptions in analysis (Score:2)
Life is short regardless (Score:2)
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Want to bet they are middle aged women? Surprise, research shows younger males are "the problem" and a little red wine is ok. Yep, I can picture who wrote this article.
From what I read on the message boards, the older one gets, the harsher drinking any amount is. This study is likely flawed mainly due to bias.
The unstated assumption that there is benefit (Score:1)
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In my country most of the studies linking alcohol consumption to health benefits have been funded by the wine industry.
Budweiser 0 (Score:2)
https://www.google.com/search?... [google.com] is immune to this study
Tried that... didn't work. (Score:1)