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Comment Re:Wrong? No. (Score 1) 154

I guess the question is, "Who is the 'we' in the title?" The "prevailing wisdom" is almost universally not to be trusted. As you pointed out, 10,000 was a 60s Japanese marketing promo. If it's the same universal "we" that flits from superfood to superfood and couldn't define inflammation past it being the thing turmeric fixes, then, sure. "We've" been thinking about it wrong, just like we think wrong about most things.

But if the "we" is actually the people studying these things in earnest, well... We"ve been thinking wrong about exercise in the same way that Newton was thinking wrong about gravity. Wrong in the most definitive, all inclusive sense, but really, really right in general. Especially since health is so much more muddy than gravity.

Comment Re:First, define ultra processed foods (Score 1) 295

So the vast majority of it is clear, but a couple things seem ambiguous? That's pretty successful for something this fuzzy.

So milk is group one regardless of the difference. Pasta is group one because the drying preparation is accomplished without adding to or changing its composition. But pasta wet in a can with added ingredients for stabilization - pasta "dishes" rather than just pasta - are group IV. That extra word does the heavy lifting. Dry spaghetti, group I. Spaghetti-o's, group IV.

Boiling alone doesn't land a canned vegetable in group III. In context, you see that it's the addition of more salt, sugar, or fat that is needed. Context is everything.

Sure, you can nitpick the grey areas, but you're getting away from the basic question. Is it a decent attempt to codify and lend basic guidance to the dizzying array of food preparations? Sure it is. If you were trying to argue specificity in a court trial, it wouldn't be enough. But that's not what it's for.

Comment Love my Camry. (Score 1) 170

2019 Camry Hybrid. I got in exactly at the right time. No subscriptions, modern everything, no continually warning me not to pirate music, CarPlay supported. Nice screen. Physical controls for everything that should be knobs, dials, and sliders. It's just quietly good at being a great car. 7 years and 100k km later, not a single failure of any kind.

I have owned only brand new cars since 1994 - and I'm done. When the time comes, I'll be shopping for a throwback. I am opting out. Cars are far too expensive now, and I will never pay for a subscription to anything.

Comment Re:First, define ultra processed foods (Score 1) 295

For your specific comparison of sugar, oils, and fats, when read in context it's pretty clear what is meant.

Group II of these are derived in a single step. Olives to olive oil. Milk to butter. Cane sugar to rock sugar. Group IV require further processing. White sugar, hydrogenated oils, etc.. these things are not direct derivations. They require additional processing.

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