Bill Gates Predicts Within 18 Months, AI Will Be Teaching Kids to Read (cnbc.com) 122
Bill Gates believes AI chatbots "are on track to help children learn to read and hone their writing skills in 18 months time," reports CNBC:
Historically, teaching writing skills has proven to be an incredibly difficult task for a computer, Gates noted. When teachers give feedback on essays, they look for traits like narrative structure and clarity of prose — a "high-cognitive exercise" that's "tough" for developers to replicate in code, he said. But AI chatbots' ability to recognize and recreate human-like language changes that dynamic, proponents say...
AI technology must improve at reading and recreating human language to better motivate students before it can become a viable tutor, Gates said... It may take some time, but Gates is confident the technology will improve, likely within two years, he said. Then, it could help make private tutoring available to a wide swath of students who might otherwise be unable to afford it...
"This should be a leveler," he said. "Because having access to a tutor is too expensive for most students — especially having that tutor adapt and remember everything that you've done and look across your entire body of work."
Gates isn't the only billionaire thinking about how AI will affect education. Mark Cuban recently retweeted a prediction that GPT-4 "will revolutionize homeschooling."
AI technology must improve at reading and recreating human language to better motivate students before it can become a viable tutor, Gates said... It may take some time, but Gates is confident the technology will improve, likely within two years, he said. Then, it could help make private tutoring available to a wide swath of students who might otherwise be unable to afford it...
"This should be a leveler," he said. "Because having access to a tutor is too expensive for most students — especially having that tutor adapt and remember everything that you've done and look across your entire body of work."
Gates isn't the only billionaire thinking about how AI will affect education. Mark Cuban recently retweeted a prediction that GPT-4 "will revolutionize homeschooling."
Automated Propaganda (Score:4, Insightful)
What could possibly go wrong?
Everything.
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> What could possibly go wrong?
5G chips in your arm from the fake vax that turn you into a tranny pedo in service of Soros. I have the meme right here that proves it.
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Jfc, you can end up on the FBI domestic terrorist list for showing at a school board meeting to complain about it. Or do you think that didn't happen either?
I don't think that happened, no. What I think happened is some parents showed up at schools making threats about what they were going to do if the schools didn't stop teaching their children facts that demonstrate that there are inequities built into a system that's taken advantage of them their whole life, but takes more advantage of other people they perceive as different harder so that's A-OK with them. And surely, licking the boot that stomps them harder will ensure their security in retirement.
Nobody's
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Videos of these school board meetings are all over YouTube and it is public fact that they put parents on a do,rustic terrorist list.
There is absolutely nothing any parents could do or say at a school board meeting that rises to the level of domestic terrorism. If some parents went as far as to bring a gun (none did, not one) and physically threaten the board (which never happened once anywhere), it would still be a local police matter, not rising to the level of FBI involvement nor domestic terrorism.
The
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AC, good idea. Wouldn't want to publicly humiliate yourself.
Re: Automated Propaganda (Score:4, Insightful)
- all whites are racist
- even white-adjacent people (Asians and even some Latinos) are racist
Probably quite true, but it misses the point the all people are racist, so it misses the point that black people are racist too. And ends up just moving the target of the racism.
Its a direct consequence of survival of your genes, in order to survive you need to favor your group over other groups. If a lion doesn't eat its prey because its not fair, then it dies. If a zebra lets a lion eat it because its hungry then it dies.
Also we live in a world without perfect information, so we use heuristics like race to determine things like danger. If you see more people with hats being violent then you are more likely to perceive a person with a hat as violent. You simply don't have the time to get all the information on that person before you react.
The best we can do is understand that we are racist and try not let it go to far, on a conscious level.
Re: Automated Propaganda (Score:5, Insightful)
- all whites are racist - even white-adjacent people (Asians and even some Latinos) are racist
Probably quite true, but it misses the point the all people are racist, so it misses the point that black people are racist too. And ends up just moving the target of the racism.
And even that misses the point that all people are fundamentally prejudiced in favor of people who are "like them", whether you're talking about race, religion, nationality, gender, sexual orientation, hair color, eye color, wealth/social class, caste, clothing style, or any of a billion other attributes that divide us. There's a word for that: "othering".
Othering is a huge problem everywhere, whether you're talking about race or any other characteristic, and it is important to not overemphasize one specific subset of discrimination (race) over all others, because the precise nature of that problem varies from region to region. In the South, for example, othering based on race is common, but so is othering based on religion. In California, political affiliation is the biggest source of othering. In the tech industry, othering based on age is a big problem. And othering based on English fluency is a problem pretty much everywhere, though the severity of the impact depends in part on the number of immigrants who speak a specific language in a given area and the extent to which they help each other.
It is important not to overemphasize one specific subset of discrimination (race) over all others. In fact, I would even argue that using race as the primary focus may be actively harmful, because nobody wants to be called a racist. In the U.S., a good place to start is with caste, assuming you aren't in an area with a lot of folks from India, because the entire concept will be entirely abstract to everyone else.
Then make it more concrete and talk about how you're more likely to do nice things for people you know, and talk about places where you meet people other than school. Church will invariably come up. Point that out as a great example of how discrimination can happen, entirely accidentally, because you're more likely to be friends with people that you know, and you're more likely to know people who go to your church.
Next, ask non-minority students how many minorities go to their church. For minority students, ask them how many non-minorities go to their church. Then bring up race and ask them to think about how the lack of minorities or non-minorities in their church might make them less likely to be friends with people of different races, and talk about how later on, when someone asks for a job, the non-minorities might choose a non-minority who goes to their church over a minority who doesn't and vice cersa, because they know them and like them, even if the qualifications for the other person are better.
Then, and only then, should you introduce the term "systemic racism." Describe it as the system as a whole creating bias based on race even when no individual racism exists. Make it clear that even people who aren't even slightly racist can still end up accidentally discriminating based on race because of the way our society is built, and the ways in which people interact. Make it clear that this isn't caused by anyone actually being racist, but is just a natural side effect of the way our world works. Also make it clear that it is everyone's responsibility to watch out for such biases and push back against them when they see them. Then encourage them to make it a point to interact with people of different races more.
Next, bring up language. For example, if you're in the U.S., you might ask how many Spanish-speaking people go to their church. If they're Catholic, odds are it will be a lot. Then ask them whether they attend Mass together with them or in a separate service. When (not if, unless it's a really tiny town) they say that they go at a different time, ask them how often they talk to the folks who attend the S
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You just outed yourself in public as a hatest!
There is no evidence at all that hat wearers are more violent and if there is then mentioning that fact also makes you a hatest!
And a hatophobe, as well, for good measure.
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*Sob* It's true! I even only buy records by Men Without Hats!
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All people are not racist. Some don't believe in race. They can still be colorist, though, which was a thing even before racism as we know it.
Words have meanings, if you ignore them then you're gonna have a bad time, and so is everyone else around you.
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This post is one giant *citation needed footnote.
Just what is "spreading fantasies about slavery in America"? Calling slaves unpaid involuntarily relocated workers? https://www.texastribune.org/2... [texastribune.org]
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I accept your words as my own, because I am just a man made of straw.
Careful, your TDS is showing!
Unaware of the fact that they are racist.... Interesting idea. Are you aware of the fact that you are racist against white people? Probably not.
I don't think it really matters (Score:2)
A handful of really nasty assholes at the daily wire are going to lose their jobs and that's about it. The propaganda if anything is going to get a little bit worse because it won't be created by and spell checked by a person but good enough is always good enough
Re: I don't think it really matters (Score:2)
has been able to inundate people with the limitless supply of carefully curated propaganda for pretty much ever.
I don't see any end in sight for your propaganda either. Should we shut you down too?
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Indeed. As the religious scum has demonstrated, the best time to indoctrinate people is when they are kids. At that age they will be willing to believe the most ridiculous crap and a majority never recovers from that.
Re: Automated Propaganda (Score:2)
Considering that AI can't read or comprehend itself. I don't know what you are babbling about.
Every AI I have talked with has quickly proven itself to be useless. Current AI are designed to provide any answer even if it is incorrect.
That quickly gets old
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The comment is self explanatory. Maybe your reading comprehension is lacking.
Re: Automated Propaganda (Score:1)
Re:Automated Propaganda (Score:5, Insightful)
If people had intelligence and critical thinking we wouldn't have the political problems we do now. Instead the rich use politicians to weaponize the stupid. They use woke nonsense to focus on our differences and increase in-fighting.
I agreed with you up until that sentence. From that point on, it becomes a Republicans-are-the-good-guy kind of rant. I would instead word it as:
The rich use politicians to weaponize the stupid, and by so doing, also elevate the opinions of the stupid to weaponize the intelligent.
Where "woke" attitudes fall on that scale depends on who you ask, and also probably depends on what specific attitudes you're talking about.
And personally, I view both sides of pretty much all political debates (including the woke/anti-woke propaganda) as profoundly stupid. They're both continually exaggerating the opinions of the other side, creating straw man caricatures to tear down, and all the while are completely ignoring the other side, failing to consider that the other side might have valid opinions, thus creating a giant vacuum where the political middle should be.
All of this is, of course, presumably to distract the public from the actual power.
Re:Automated Propaganda (Score:5, Insightful)
Woke is literally the mating call of the stupid. It means several things
1) Politically correct
2) Something I don't agree with
3) Ron DeSantis' definition "the belief there are systemic injustices in American society and the need to address them"
https://www.okayplayer.com/new... [okayplayer.com]
Number 3 always gives me a chuckle.
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Isn't definition 3 pretty much the original meaning when the term originated in the 1930s(?)? Like, if you're black, you have to be aware of all the ways the system is stacked against you?
Is it funny because it's impossible to oppose, yet DeSantis opposes it anyway?
Re: Automated Propaganda (Score:2)
I agreed with you up until that sentence. From that point on, it becomes a Republicans-are-the-good-guy kind of rant.
I don't see anything about Republicans in that. Think about it: All you guys ever do is bitch about Walmart and other big stores taking business away from smaller ones (and actually it's typically the opposite -- stores like Walmart are what the retail industry refers to as anchor stores. Those stores bring more business to nearby stores. When they open, so do more smaller stores. When they close, so do more smaller stores.)
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/t... [cbsnews.com]
And of course, you guys always protest Walmart buil
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I agreed with you up until that sentence. From that point on, it becomes a Republicans-are-the-good-guy kind of rant.
I don't see anything about Republicans in that. Think about it: All you guys ever do is bitch about Walmart and other big stores taking business away from smaller ones (and actually it's typically the opposite -- stores like Walmart are what the retail industry refers to as anchor stores.
Who is "you guys"? I shop at Walmart all the time. That article you linked pretty much sums up my opinion on the matter. Walmart might break some merchants who aren't able to adapt, but it also draws people in and helps some nearby stores survive that otherwise might not. My biggest complaint about Walmart is that they have far too many employees depending on government handouts because they don't pay well enough, but I mostly blame the political right of our federal government for that, rather than Wal
Walmart closing? (Score:3, Informative)
“There is no single cause for why a store closes,” Lauren Willis, a spokesperson for Walmart, told The Oregonian/OregonLive. “We do a thorough review of how a store performs and weigh many factors before making the difficult decision to close a facility.”
Walmart has also announced store closures this year in Arkansas; Washington, D.C.; Florida; Illinois; New Mexico; and Wisconsin, according to Insider. It’s given no specific reasons for the closures elsewhere, either.
https://ww [oregonlive.com]
Re: Walmart closing? (Score:2)
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There is no single cause. There are two. Mass theft in poor areas and unionization threats.
Wage theft exceeds all other theft, so when you're trying to figure out which one of these things is influencing corporate activity, the answer is pretty easy. And that's not even mentioning the amount of money that Wal-Mart employees need to collect in government assistance because they're not paid a living wage.
Re: Walmart closing? (Score:2)
A lot of businesses have been closing in Portland, Walmart is one of only very few that won't say why. The rest certainly do.
https://www.kgw.com/article/mo... [kgw.com]
When you teach (Score:1)
When teaching, it's inevitable to teach with a bias in life. This is why cults, whenever possible, try to seize the minds of the young and eliminate any other view points by any means necessary, including pogroms and executions. Wittiness the Right Wing all over the world, especially the American South.
The question is if AI teaching kids will impart it's own bias. I don't know. My fear is that AI teaching will be as to teaching as food processors are to food. Great for fast and cheap, but leaves out good.[1
think they're antisocial now...? (Score:5, Interesting)
Reading to your child is about more than just giving them reading skills (which, let's be honest, barely anyone today uses anyway).
It's about moments in which it is you, them, and they are your complete attention.
If you think wilding mobs of violent kids aren't antisocial enough today, let's see what they're like when we take take one more element of human contact out of raising children.
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It's about moments in which it is you, them, and they are your complete attention.
All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain
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Did you even read the summary of the article? This isn't about reading to kids. The summary is having them do two things:
1. Provide "research assistant" capabilities to kids. Not entirely sure what that means other than maybe finding a story about wizards if they want to read a story about wizards.
2. Provide insightful feedback to kids for their writing. Mom has said that spellcheck helped my spelling immensely, and that spell check was the one way back in the day that you had to manually trigger becau
Re: think they're antisocial now...? (Score:1)
Can't we just stop graduating functional illiterate children who don't understand basic mathematics and only understand the history their teacher thought they needed to know?
We could make that change today.
The easiest route to fixing education in America would be to remove tenure and add merit pay to reward successful teachers and remove incompetent teachers.
I saw a great exchange on Bill Maher's show this weekend:
White Justice Warrior: "we need to pay teachers what their services are worth!"
Audience: Big A
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Well, there isn't a 'just stop', because just stopping graduation means more high school dropouts, not more literate adults. Would increase the value of graduating high school again, though.
If the artificial tutoring works out, that would help with graduating literate students at an affordable cost.
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$53k/yr. in L.A. is a poverty-level wage. Rent will take over half your salary and you'll never be able to afford a mortgage.
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The easiest route to fixing education in America would be to remove tenure and add merit pay to reward successful teachers and remove incompetent teachers.
They called that No Child Left Behind, and well, you can see where that got us. The only difference was doing it through gamification of test scores, instead of nationwide punishment.
The simple fact about fixing US Education is: That there are none. The problems are entirely local to the individual schools / districts / teachers / students / parents. There is not one single solution that will magically fix all of that across the board. In the way that many want to exist. If anything at this point the who
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"Did you even read the summary of the article?"
Of course he didn't. After all, "barely anyone today uses [reading skills]"
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When we talk about teaching kids to read, we are mostly taking about teaching them to decode increasing complex strings of symbols. At first telling us what words mean, perhaps in context, then what sentences mean and retelling entire stories. Then analysis
The later is where writing comes in and AI fails. AI writing
Really? (Score:5, Insightful)
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Yep. They even had a decent TCP stack for Windows 3.11 (not too fast, but it worked OK) and didn't bother to ship them together.
Now Bill Gates' primary significance is that he owns all the farmland. The obvious fear is that he'll do for farming what he did for computing.
Not AI. Owners of AI. (Score:5, Interesting)
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excellent!!
(couldn't help but imagine Mr. Burns)
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A world where the extreme elite don't need 99.9% of humanity to maintain their power, comfort, and ego is one where that 99.9% is in overwhelming physical danger from the top. Especially the educated, who would be a constant threat to power.
After the dust of chaos settles, it's not hard to imagine a world that consists of a few dozen God-King tyrants, a few hundred power-hungry vassals, and a few million slaves to worship and fear th
Bill Gates Predicts... (Score:1)
Sorry, sorry, so very sorry.
Says the guy (Score:3, Funny)
who stated 640Kb should be enough for anybody.
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i don;t get this at all, 640 Kbitcoin SHOULD be enough for anybody?!!
But I predict... (Score:2)
But I predict that I don't give a shit what little Billy Gates thinks.
Wealth = Intellect? (Score:1)
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"If you're so smart, why aren't you rich?"
"If you're so rich, why aren't you smart?"
No it won't. (Score:2)
It would be more impressive... (Score:2)
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> if AI were teaching 18 month-olds to read.
"According to this article, you guys are changing my diaper all wrong. Do it right, or I'll embarrass you with a loud snotty fit in church!"
But does a kid understand why he should read? (Score:3)
All these sites have moved to videos, only the old fashioned still read an article.
Like I have already complained at my newspaper that they should at least have a good recap or better transcript to read when I don't feel like or don't have the time to watch their video.
But yes, this might be helpful making more coming adults able to read.
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All these sites have moved to videos, only the old fashioned still read an article.
I never understood that one. Is it because videos are more popular with the current demographic?
I can read text in an article in 1/10th of the time it takes me to watch the video, and I can do so without disturbing my neighbors in a public place.
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It's my understanding that videos are easier to make money on with ads.
I do agree with you about how annoying video only news is. Waste of my time 99 out 100 times.
Re:But does a kid understand why he should read? (Score:5, Insightful)
Videos are a terrible reference resource. They are sequential, and unless carefully indexed (and who does that!?), it's painful to find something contained in the video. I can scan and search electronic text, heck, I can visually scan and browse through text on paper. Videos? Not so much by comparison. So yes, there are reasons to read, and that is just one of them.
Other reasons go much beyond the simple "logistics" I gripe about here. For one, videos are much more manipulative than written text (any kind of live speech is). Rhetoric (the "art" of "persuasion") was honed to "convince" people by spoken word. Sure, within reason that goes for the written word as well, but when I read something I can choose my own pace (!!) and stop at any moment to think / reference / check. The point of the spoken word is in part to prevent people from stopping to be able to do just that. Many famous and infamous speeches demonstrate that very well.
So, yes, there are many _very_ good reasons to be able to read, to be able to read well, and to actually read (a lot). Still, no time right now, I have to read something important for work, incidentally. People are waiting ...
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They are sequential, and unless carefully indexed (and who does that!?)
This is literally a job for AI.
Hell, you can have AI train and improve itself in speech recognition. Train and improve itself on image/text recognition. Train and improve itself in understanding context and changes of context.
All you need is one human to review the results to correct any mistakes. And those corrections will also be used to train the AI.
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Sometimes you are looking for a small bit of information in a long document / presentation because you already know the rest of the material. Its a huge waste of time watching and waiting for that key bit of information to be presented
With complex or math intensive information, its often necessary to jump up and back in a document to remember de
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This one surprises me, but I've seem more and more information presented as videos. Its a good medium for some things but terrible for others.
The reason this is happening is all about monetization. It's not at all about people thinking that video is actually the best way to present information.
i bet AI/chatGPT (Score:2)
all those poor programmers will have to get jobs mowing lawns and bicycle paper routes
Well I suppose (Score:2)
AI Stands For "All In" To Big Tech Companies (Score:1)
In other words:
- A.I. doesn't even started yet, the definition of "A.I." keeps getting broader to justify the term A.I. itself in software products.
- The layperson is being told A.I. is here and ready.
- The main pushers of A.I.'s R&D are big companies, not faculties/colleges/universities.
- A.I. is being used as an excuse to further degrade people's life standards, that
When a human is taught by a human (Score:3)
He becomes a fully-rounded human. The danger of course is being taught by a bad human.
When he's taught by a machine, he may be taught in the most neutral possible way, but he'll become a machine himself. It'll be a sad, sad day when children spend most of their school days speaking to machines. They'll turn into soulless recipients of knowledge.
What a sickening future we're about to gleefully step into.
18 months behind (Score:2)
Yesterday, I saw on the news a project in a Belgian school which already does this.
The AI helps the teacher, support in a school where 70 nationalities are represented, and they all need to learn Dutch.
I'll take that bet (Score:2)
This is beyond stupid (Score:2)
First, "culture eats strategy for breakfast". This is a famous quote by Peter Drucker that implies that no matter how elegant a strategy is (and how sound the predictions on which it is based are), if it goes agaisnt the cultural dynamics, it will fails catastrrophically. Does anyone really believe that most parents or schools will decide to outsource reading lessons to a corporate owned machine/software, in a year and a half from now? Unless, of course, the prediction is about a couple of isolated cases th
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Indeed.
One might imagine that there are students out there who would like feedback on their essay, will receive and consider that feedback from the AI carefully, and will be able to apply the relevant lesson in the future. Nobody actually cares about those students because they were always likely to do well.
But the reality is AI will primarily be employed as a "make my essay better so I get a better grade with less thought and work" device. In that case, AI is actually making it easier to avoid learning h
Bill Gates knows zero about kids or AI (Score:5, Insightful)
He has zero background in childhood development or education.
He has zero background in AI.
BG was a shrewd businessman who was very successful selling inferior software at an acceptable price. That's it.
Oh, maybe he does know a bit about kids from his time with Epstein:
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/1... [nytimes.com]
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Lol, ok, thanks. Did you mean dos/cpm or windows/Apple/xerox?
if it can give unlimited attention and time (Score:2)
But (Score:1)
Wanna actually fix reading in the USA? (Score:5, Informative)
Now, we have another pundit, Bill Gates, with $billions in venture capital backing who's been trying to find a way to milk those sweet, sweet public education $$$s for decades without success and even doing harm along the way, e.g. https://www.edweek.org/teachin... [edweek.org] (It's already been a shocking waste of public money.) Bill Gates wants us to believe, without evidence, that he can deliver educational programmes that are miraculous improvements on the treatments that are currently available: At worst, they just need to re-train teachers of reading so that they know how to implement more effective methods.
When Bill Gates publishes his peer-reviewed research into the application of AI systems for early literacy development in a reputable journal, and reporting substantial effect sizes of proposed treatments that are cost-effective and feasible at scale, I'll listen. Until then, he can just STFU because ATM his track record in education speaks for itself.
!remindme 18 months (Score:1)
If only someone had a list of all predictions made by celebrities and would check them for accuracy - I think most of the "visionary" myths would implode quite violently.
This one is guaranteed to be among those. It demonstrates a purely technocratic perspective on education, and makes the incredible mistake of thinking that the FIRST few years of school are where teachers are easy to replace, while these are probably the years where this is the least likely to happen.
They will also hate reading (Score:2)
18 months? (Score:2)
The kids are cheating at maths with it RIGHT NOW.
Not a Chance (Score:2)
I'm the parent of a 6 year old who recently got over the initial hump of learning to read. While we have used some apps that gamify the process, there's nothing about AI that can replace tutoring. The benefit of tutoring is having a HUMAN pay attention to the student. Children in the "learn to read" age bracket of 4-7 LOVE it when adults pay attention to them. 90% of the battle for a young child learning to read is making them WANT to read and put in the effort. Most 6 year olds (especially boys) just want
Lazy and Short-Sighted Solutions in Education (Score:2)
Techies will do anything and everything to avoid the reality: education is hard. Teaching is hard. Being a student between the ages of 5 and 22 is hard.
You can throw all your laptops, tablets, slideshows, lecture recordings on 2x speed, and AI "educators" at kids and still the best thing to teach the majority of the children and young adults will be a skilled, passionate human educator who is not over-worked.
Remember the early 2000s when Kahn Academy and all these other online learning platforms were suppos
Maybe it will (Score:1)
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Tard. What do you think happens to kids who are mutilate and sterilized before the age of consent?
Hint; They don't become millionaires. In fact, according to the numbers, they don't make it to 30.
Re:Read? What about their genders? (Score:5, Insightful)
Why are conservatives always thinking about childrens genitals?
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Point of fact, they weren't. That's why the left was able to gain such a strong foothold in our public schools before anyone noticed.
Of course, sending your child to public school in today's day and age should be considered child abuse, but I digress.
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No, it was because you right wingnut were demonizing them and the left decided they'd enough of your bullshit.
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So in order to counter the conservative demonization of children's genitals, you decided that cutting them off, doping them up on wrong sex hormones and putting them in the wrong clothes was the right answer.
Got it, thanks.
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At least someone is keeping track. https://www.dailykos.com/stori... [dailykos.com]
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DK is still online? And has readers? Wow....
Thank god we have clear headed and unbiased sites like dailykos to keep us informed of the facts!!
Lol, so funny that anyone would use a dk link to prove anything. If dk said 2+2=4 I'd double check on my calculator.
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It's not like there aren't scores of other links reporting the same facts.
Watch some real news now and then, and maybe you won't sound like a reality-denying dumbass.
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Then post those links instead of biased trash. No one is going to do your research for you and posting trash links makes your own biases super clear.
I wouldn't trust dk to quote 2+2=4 and get it right. And then there's the fucked up lying bullshit they surround every alleged fact with.
Oh, hey, look, a quote in the National enquirer that supports my point! I'll use that and tell you there are dozens of other good links but make you out to be the bad guy for not accepting my trash link instead of posting a
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Ah, gaslighting. Too bad it only works with people who would rather question their own sanity than question your lies.
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https://www.dailykos.com/stori... [dailykos.com]
I'll post a list of democrat sexual predators but can't seem to find nearly as many,
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Dailykos, the bastion of truth and honesty in journalism!
How come dk has a republican list but doesn't have a democrat list?
Are we saying no democrat office holder has ever committed a sexual crime or are we saying dk has an agenda?
Dailykos... lmao