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Circumference (Score:5, Informative)
Circumference of Earth = 24,901.47 miles or 40,075.04km
So if you're within 1%, you're within 249 miles or 407.5km. That likely covers most of the native population of the UK who still live there.
Re:Circumference (Score:2)
If you have moved from Scotland to the South of England, you are probably just over 1%.
Re:Circumference (Score:5, Funny)
You are the 1%!
Re:Circumference (Score:5, Insightful)
If you have moved from Scotland to the South of England, you are probably just over 1%.
The different between England and the United States: In England, 100 miles is a long distance. In the United States, 100 years is a long time.
Re:Circumference (Score:4, Interesting)
Something I was wondering, not being an American - obviously, the USA is much larger than the UK (where I'm from), but does that mean it's also typical for people to move much larger distances from home, or do people tend to stay roughly in the same area?
I'm about 250 miles away from my place of birth normally, but most of the people I know are much closer to home. Well, apart from the three who moved to North America. My family pretty much stayed within a ~ 10 mile radius. Is this typical for the USA too?
Re:Circumference (Score:5, Interesting)
My family pretty much stayed within a ~ 10 mile radius. Is this typical for the USA too?
Yes and no, but let me stretch that to a 50 mile radius. For people with a limited education (high school or less), absolutely yes. For people with moderate education (tech training), it is fairly common. For people with higher education, it is just as common to be half a country away. This is due to opportunities being more available to those with more education, but may be on a different coast, up to 3000 miles away. I was raised mainly in Texas, but live in North Carolina, about 1100 miles away. It is pretty easy to move 1000 miles away from home here.
I would also add that a lot of people enter the military in the US, and those people are most likely to be stationed away from their home, and when they get out, odds are good they won't go back to their birthplace, being more used to living away. This is most true for those who stay more than a few years in the military.
The reason I stretched that to a 50 mile radius is that I know many, many people who live in the same general area where they were born. My wife is around 50 miles from her birthplace, for instance. Many live in a suburb of their birthplace, and may be 20 miles away but still have the same friends and family stucture. Or they either moving from a small town to the nearest city (100k), or vise versa. We Americans aren't afraid to drive long distances regularly, considering we are a less urbanized country and gas is about 1/3rd to 1/2 the price it is in Europe.
Re:Circumference (Score:3)
A 50-mile radius is a big circle, on England.
Look at the map: http://maps.google.co.uk/ [google.co.uk]
Your circle could cover London, Birmingham, Leicester, Coventry, Oxford, Cambridge.
Or it could cover Liverpool, Manchester, Nottingham, Leeds, Sheffield.
At a rough estimate, between 20 and 30 million people live in those two circles! (51 million people in England.)
A 50-mile diameter seems more useful.
For people with higher education, it is just as common to be half a country away.
I think this is where the difference starts. It's still "half a country", but my country is tiny, relative to yours.
Re:Circumference (Score:2)
It's closer to a perfect sphere than a billiard ball is, so I guess its close enough.
Re:Circumference (Score:3)
Re:Circumference (Score:3)
Half of circumference? (Score:3)
The circumference of the earth is 40.000 km. I live about 200 km from my place of birth. That is 0.5% of the circumference, but I think it would be wiser to use half of that, so 20.000 km, because that would be the maximum distance in a straight line. Then it's 1%.
Re:Half of circumference? (Score:2)
Re:Half of circumference? (Score:2)
And gave us a better range:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1554580&cid=31190006 [slashdot.org]
Re:Half of circumference? (Score:2)
I guess in that case most people in Europe would have to learn a new language to move a significant percentage away from their place of birth.
Re:Half of circumference? (Score:4, Insightful)
As if French and Spanish were only spoken in France and Spain.
Re:Half of circumference? (Score:4, Funny)
What? Have you heard the Spaniards speak Spanish?? It is an outrage! You can barely undertand them!
(Es un chiste, no me flameén, por favor!)
Re:Half of circumference? (Score:2)
Flameén? Is that a conjugation of "flameer?" I thought the infinitive would be "inflamar".
Re:Half of circumference? (Score:3)
Damn it, in Spain they speak Catalan, Basque, Galician, Castilian, etc. but NOT Spanish; that is why you can't understand them.
Re:Half of circumference? (Score:5, Funny)
If you live in the UK or Ireland, you could go to Canada, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, Zimbabwe or quite a few other countries and still speak the same language. You could also go to the USA where the language is close enough to English to be mutually intelligible most of the time. People in Portugal could go to Brazil. People in Spain could go to most of the Latin American Countries. People in France could go to Quebec, Canada, or a few other countries.
Re:Half of circumference? (Score:4, Insightful)
People in France could go to Quebec, Canada, or a few other countries.
There'z no Canada like French Canada, it'z za bezt Canada in ze land.
Ze ozer Canada is hardly Canada. If you lived here for a day, you'd understand.
Re:Half of circumference? (Score:3)
People in France could go to Quebec, Canada, or a few other countries.
The French spoken in Quebec is different from the French spoken in France. The language stagnated in Quebec while it evolved in France. It would be the equivalent of someone living in the US today trying to have a conversation with William Shakespeare.
Also, the France French don't like the Quebec French.
Re:Half of circumference? (Score:3)
{ Jerry Lewis }?
Re:Half of circumference? (Score:5, Insightful)
I guess in that case most people in Europe would have to learn a new language to move a significant percentage away from their place of birth.
I am pretty sure that most Europeans know at least two languages, and quite often three. I know we had to be fluent in two and able to converse in one more language before leaving junior high school.
Unfortunately, the same can not be said for all the possible places to move to, but these days, you can expect to survive with one of your languages (most likely English or Spanish) until you learn the native language.
Culture is a far bigger problem. I moved from a western European country to USA twelve years ago, and I'm still not assimilated or even comfortable with the differences, and don't think I ever will be. Culture (or, in this case, lack thereof) is a real stumbling block. But you don't think about that when you move.
Re:Half of circumference? (Score:3, Funny)
Cheer up, culture can be learned. Twelve years just isn't enough time for you.
Re:Half of circumference? (Score:3, Insightful)
I moved from a western European country to USA twelve years ago, and I'm still not assimilated or even comfortable with the differences, and don't think I ever will be. Culture (or, in this case, lack thereof) is a real stumbling block.
I'm have no problem with your dislike of US culture, but that *is* your choice. It's pointless to moan about the US not conforming to your definition of culture.
Re:Half of circumference? (Score:3)
As a European who lived for significant amounts of time (several years) in Italy, Germany and Norway, this depends a lot on the size of the country. Germans, Frenchmen and Italians do not need a foreign language since their entire lives can go on just fine with their mother language only: dubbed TV series, translated manuals for electronic gizmos, this stuff. Same goes for Japanese and Chinese. And Americans. They all have their language classes in school, but you really do not know a language unless you use it once in a while, so they learn just enough to pass the classes and then forget it.
In smaller countries with small languages (Scandinavia, Netherlands, Finland...) people speak at least workable English because they need it for their daily lives. Plus some languages are similar to the point of being ridiculous (e.g. Danish/Swedish/Norwegian), so it is really easy for some to raise the count. Yes, there is also something to be said about the school systems, but country size is very important in defining actual need.
It's also important to define what we mean by knowing a language: being able to order a beer, to entertain casual conversation, or defend a doctoral thesis? I read once a nice definition by some random linguistics expert on Usenet: "If you can have a bitter, verbal-intensive, emotional fight in a foreign language, then you know it".
Re:Half of circumference? (Score:3)
> About 90% of music being made today seems to be crap.
Sturgeon teaches us that 90% of everything is crap.
Re:Half of circumference? (Score:2)
Given that the options only go up to 50%, meaning exactly the opposite side of the earth from your birthplace, I don't think you are supposed to divide by 2.
Re:Half of circumference? (Score:3)
20.000 km, because that would be the maximum distance in a straight line.
Actually it's almost 13.000 km, but that's a long dig. I like my space euclidian, tyvm.
Re:Half of circumference? (Score:2)
Being a true geek, immediately distance from place of birth brings to mind 'spatial reference' or earth relative http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWVshkVF0SY [youtube.com], merry Christmas and happy holidays.
Re:Half of circumference? (Score:5, Funny)
I dont even know how to work this out. what percentage is 12,000km?
12,000km is 12,000% of 1km.
You're welcome.
Re:Half of circumference? (Score:5, Informative)
I dont even know how to work this out. what percentage is 12,000km?
12,000km is 12,000% of 100km.
You're welcome.
Fixed it for you. When giving useless information make sure it is accurate.
Re:Half of circumference? (Score:2)
I'm too lazy for that, I only care to make it precise, e.g. 12,000km is 13,564.3958945% of 100km.
Through the Earth, or around it? (Score:2)
Re:Through the Earth, or around it? (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Through the Earth, or around it? (Score:3)
Being transdimensional, I'm both at my place of birth and an infinite distance away all the time.
Insensitive clods!
Poll fail... (Score:2)
Re:Poll fail... (Score:5, Funny)
Regardless, maybe in a few years I will fall pleasantly in the 4%-10% range.
Optimistic about continental drift?
Re:Poll fail... (Score:3)
Re:Data type fail... (Score:2)
Just moved back... (Score:2)
...to the town where I grew up. Several times a week, I drive past the hospital where I was born.
Re:Just moved back... (Score:2)
half a mile (Score:2)
I didn't even have to do the math, because the hospital where I was born is just down the street from my house. While this sounds pathetically mom's-basement-y (and it probably is), it's not quite as bad as it sounds. I've lived farther away from my birthplace than I do now, including about half a year (cumulatative) across the Atlantic from here. I just happen to like the area where I grew up.
Re:half a mile (Score:2)
I'm in the same city where I was born, and this city has been my home continually. But perhaps another interesting poll would be what's the farthest distance you have ever visited from where you were born... Though I have to admit, for myself it would still be within the same country... when we drove east, over five thousand kilometers each way... (runner up was a different trip where we drove a north, four thousand kilometers each way) And I frequently take a one thousand kilometer each way drive west.
I live in my great-great-grandfather's house (Score:5, Interesting)
Welcome to Olde Europe ;) :)
My great-great-grandfather moved to Lisbon from his little village somewhere in the 19th century, and most of us haven't moved out of the neighborhood. Lots of relatives here. We still own the original stone house back in the little village, its origins lost in time.
We've traced our genealogy all the way back to the 1600s when the church started recording baptisms, we were still there then, and plenty of relatives never moved out of it either
Guide (Score:3, Informative)
1. open maps.google.com
2. key in your place of birth and current location.
3. google circumference of earth.
4. look for a calculator / calculator app (yawn)
5. key in those figures (hard to keep my eyes open)
6. choose the option and slump on the laptop.
Re:Guide (Score:5, Informative)
You may as well use Google as your calculator (you do know it evaluates expressions and conversions?), or simpler yet go to http://www.wolframalpha.com/ [wolframalpha.com] and ask it to calculate:
"distance from new york to london / circumerfence of earth"
Answer: 0.1394 (13.94%)
Re:Guide (Score:2)
or, in one step:
1 WolframAlpha (distance from A to B / earth's circumference)
Re:Guide (Score:2)
Or just know off hand that the earth is around 25000 miles in circumference. Are you less than 250 miles from where you were born? More than that but less than 1000? More than a thousand but less than 2500? More than 2500 but less than 6000? More than 6000?
You don't need to be super accurate here. Unless you have no sense of distances, it really shouldn't be hard. And if you do have no sense of distances, you probably are within 250 miles of home.
Re:Guide (Score:2)
2. key in your place of birth and current location.
Ok, I did that. Google maps refuses to calculate directions from Ukraine to New England. Now what? Some of us have moved far.
Is there a way get the distance without directions?
Re:Guide (Score:2)
You insensitive clod... (Score:5, Funny)
Take your pick:
I don't know where I am, YIC...
I don't know where I was born, YIC...
I don't know what the circumference of the Earth is, YIC...
I don't know what circumference means, YIC...
I wasn't born, I was a C-section, YIC...
I wasn't born, I was created in a lab, YIC...
We aren't born, we're grown, YIC...
Individual Birth is Irrelevant. Resistance is futile. We are Slashdot. You will be assimilated. YIC...
I was hatched, not born, YIC...
I budded binomial fission style from my mother/sister/host, YIC...
I am a 3rd generation modified Lucien Genetic Upgrade Clone, YIC...
I was born again, and so have more than one distance figure applicable to me, YIC...
Euclidean geometry does not apply to my extradimensional existence, YIC...
So take your pick, you insensitive clod...
41% Baby!!!! (Score:2)
I just can't get far enough away!
At least the poll's not in multiples of my height (Score:2)
born in paris, living in columbus OH (Score:2, Insightful)
that's about 7200Km away. The earth's circumference is roughtly 40000Km. So that's about 18%.
I am surprised, there are so many 1%, since roughtly being in an other city than were you were born, gives more than 1% (even in a small country like France). But I guess christmas season skews the data.
Re:born in paris, living in columbus OH (Score:3)
Re:born in paris, living in columbus OH (Score:4, Insightful)
Calculate this with Wolfram Alpha (Score:2)
I'm surprised how low most people are (Score:2)
For all of the supposed world travelers on here, over 50% have the smallest option. Not that I consider my 4.5% (covering most of the way across the US, the short way) to be all that impressive. For all the supposed glamour of it, very few people spend much time more than a few hundred miles from where they were born.
Re:I'm surprised how low most people are (Score:5, Insightful)
It's Christmas Eve. Figure it out.
Re:I'm surprised how low most people are (Score:2)
I'm mostly curious about how many 1%'ers are actually farther than that. I don't consider myself to be that far away from my birth place BUT when I did the math I was just over 1% which kind of surprised me.
As for your surprise, there are some factors you're forgetting about... here's a few types of people on /. who would be *more likely to stay within 1% than their peers:
1) 'been in a MUD since '83... can't... leave... keyboard...
2) The world is available at my fingertips via the internet, why would I ever leave here?
3) I travel all the time and have seen most of the world. I don't need to "move" there.
4) Relocate for a job?! BAH! I can work from home!
I'm sure there are more. Add those to the reasons why statistically most people stay within a certain radius of their roots and this population may be more home-centric than average.
Re:I'm surprised how low most people are (Score:2)
People who travel the world don't always live elsewhere, many people like where they grew up. And the poll asks where you are now, not where you have visited (though that might be another interesting poll)
Personally I'm less than 1% (same city, same quadrant of the city) But I have visited over 10% away (of course that was still in the same country...) My two longest road trips were over 5000km each way (driving east), and over 3000km each way(driving north). My next trip will actually get me out of the country...
Re:I'm surprised how low most people are (Score:2)
Re:I'm surprised how low most people are (Score:2)
over 50% have the smallest option
You mean over 25%? (Over 50% ends up being less than 50% the other direction.) In any case, as I sit here typing, the smallest category is 11-25% (which happens to be the category I'm in, albeit barely). Over 25% has nearly half-again as many votes.
And, given your confusion about 50% vs 25%, are you sure about that 4.5% number of yours? That seems awfully small for "most of the way across the US", unless you meant N-S. (Which seems odd to describe as "across", somehow.)
Re:I'm surprised how low most people are (Score:2)
As I see it I have 2 ways to get home.. the 1,000 mile route or the 24,000 mile route going the other way..
So I can have a 96% option for getting home..
Re:I'm surprised how low most people are (Score:2)
you forgot about the 2.3e6% route the other way around the sun! :)
(A straight-line path according to Einstein.)
Far more than 50% (Score:5, Informative)
Flat Earth? (Score:2)
Why are we talking about the circumference when you can't be any more than one diameter away from any other point on Earth? It's not as if the poll is actually asking you to drill the tunnel, it just wants its length.
Re:Flat Earth? (Score:2)
I'm clarifying all this to you because this is a really important matter that it's worth spending a lot of time arguing about on a Christmas Eve.
Life close to a political boundary (Score:2)
I live 1% from where I was born, in another country.
Re:Life close to a political boundary (Score:2)
Hey, what happened to the "less than" sign? It disappeared when I clicked on "Submit".
Re:Life close to a political boundary (Score:2)
try < for < but I had to type it &lt;
But, but... I own my mother's basement. (Score:4, Interesting)
I'm typing this in the same bedroom that I had as a child.
I'm single, and almost 50.
I could be the perfect slashdotter, save that I'm employed and the basement floods in heavy rain.
Re:But, but... I own my mother's basement. (Score:3)
"Is that by choice?"
Pretty much.
I was living in Albuquerque doing IT work in 1998 when my parents died (Old age. Just like the stereotype for elderly couples, one passed and the other was gone 3 months later.) I was single, and the office I was working at was shutting down so I was the one of the family who could head back home to handle the estate. Rather than selling the house in a locally depressed housing market I took it as my part of the inheritance. Been here ever since.
It has good points and bad points. Certainly wasn't where I figured I'd settle. But, I like living in a small rural town (east central Illinois).
I have a good job with the local university fixing lab equipment. Not the highest pay in the world, but it's pretty secure and work that I enjoy. So, no plans to move elsewhere.
At christmas time? (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:At christmas time? (Score:2)
I think that's the point of the poll - to capture where people end up on Christmas.
I too am not in my usual position, but my situation is the opposite of yours. I'm 'normally' about 250 km from my place of birth (~0.6% earth's circumference), but right now am 14,885 km from my place of birth (37% of earth's circumference), due to Christmas travels.
Re:At christmas time? (Score:2)
However I think that the majority of the people who live more than 25% of the circumference of the earth away from their birthplace don't go 'home' for Christmas due to the cost and time involved in the travel.
I now live about 1/3 the c-of-e away from where I was born and the furtherest I have been since I moved here was less than 1%
Re:At christmas time? (Score:2)
Re:At christmas time? (Score:3)
Could be interesting to compare it to the previous poll "Distance from birthplace? ". http://slashdot.org/pollBooth.pl?qid=1260&aid=-1 [slashdot.org]
US, coast to coast (Score:3)
I was born in eastern North Carolina, and now live in western Washington State, which works out to around 11% or so.
I guess this is a fairly big country - it's surprising you don't hear more about us on the news! Instead it's always "Canada this" and "Canada that"... guess we just picked the wrong neighbors.
Lotta astronauts here! (Score:2)
Anybody using that option for some other reason? Posting from a plane or something?
Re:Lotta astronauts here! (Score:2)
Apparently there are 102 people on the ISS. Must be crowded.
Kew to Brunswick (Score:2)
11.2 km by road. Maybe eight km great circle.
Kafka's comment on this poll . . . (Score:2)
My grandfather used to say: “Life is astonishingly short. Now, in my memory, it is so compressed that I can hardly understand, for example, how a young person can decide to ride to the next village without being afraid that—apart from accidents—even the time allotted to a normal, happy life is far too short for such a journey.”
26.5! (Score:2)
Go West, Young Man (Score:2)
When the bastards outsourced me and my mates that's what I did.
128 votes for the ISS option?! (Score:2)
Boy, it's crowded up there...
Re:Which circumference? (Score:2)
But its circumference is remarkably constant.
Re:Which circumference? (Score:3)
Not so much. [about.com]
The circumference of the earth at the equator is 24,901.55 miles (40,075.16 kilometers).
But, if you measure the earth through the poles the circumference is a bit shorter - 24,859.82 miles (40,008 km)
Though that extra 70km is hardly going to make a difference with the margin of error on this poll.
Re:Which circumference? (Score:5, Insightful)
+/-0.08% is not remarkably constant?
Re:Which circumference? (Score:2, Insightful)
How far am I really then because I'm only 0.005489685% the circumference of the Earth from my place of birth? My distance is less than the error.
Yep, I live 2.2 Km from where I was born. The hospital's been torn down and replaced by an old age home. Maybe I'll be able to go back there to die one day.
Re:Which circumference? (Score:2)
You know your place of birth accurate to the millimetre?
Re:Literally (Score:5, Funny)
geez, long shifts.
Re:From europe to japan (Score:2)
your far far away is someone else's home turf
Re:Was bored, decided to look at this.. (Score:2)
I'm currently 0.004325 % of the circumference of this dirtball from the exact point on the globe of my birth, which, sadly, no longer exists, and approx 8.2 million circumferences from the point in space I was born...
The point on the globe where you were born no longer exists? or did you mean that the town / city / address / house or other arbitrary labeled surface feature no longer exists?
In calculating 8.2 million did you only include the orbital path of the earth around the sun or did you include the motion of the sun and galaxy as well?
Since you only calculated 6 decimal places, I will assume you ignored the rotational position of the earth at the time you were born as compared to the time you posted.
I know it is Christmas time, but this is slashdot
Re:Insensitive clod.... (Score:2)
There's this fascinating mathematical concept called "rounding". People who are, or claim to be, nerds are generally expected to have heard of it and be reasonably familiar with the algorithms for applying it.
When people ask your age, do you get stuck forever if the answer at the time they ask isn't a rational number? :)
Re:% unknown, too lazy to do the math (Score:2)
33*365.25*24*.03 is 8678 metres. Did you mean kilometres? My distance is about the same as yours but I am 13 years older so am a slower mover.
Re:% unknown, too lazy to do the math (Score:2)
10.000 meters from my place of birth, and I am thirty three, so my average is .03 meters per hour,
Easy there speed racer, your average speed is WAY lower than 0.03 meters per hour -- it's closer to 0.00003459 meters per hour.
Why, if you were zipping along at a blazing 0.03 m/h you'd be well over 8672 meters away from your place of birth by now!
Re:% unknown, too lazy to do the math (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:birth place? (Score:5, Funny)
Born there, but never have been back. Place is gone now. What does it matter?
Kenya is nice this time of year, Barack.