Elon Musk To Join Twitter's Board of Directors, Teases 'Significant Improvements' (cnbc.com) 124
Elon Musk will join Twitter's board of directors after taking a 9.2% stake in the social media company. CNBC reports: "Through conversations with Elon in recent weeks, it became clear to us that he would bring great value to our Board," CEO Parag Agrawal said in a tweet. "He's both a passionate believer and intense critic of the service which is exactly what we need on Twitter, and in the boardroom, to make us stronger in the long-term," Agrawal added. Former chief Jack Dorsey praised the move, saying in a tweet that Musk "cares deeply about our world and Twitter's role in it." "I've wanted Elon on the board for a long time," Dorsey later added.
Musk's term is set to expire in 2024, according to a filing with the SEC. For his entire board term or 90 days after, Musk cannot be the beneficial owner of more than 14.9% of the company's common stock outstanding. [...] After he was named to the board, Musk on Tuesday teased he would push for adjustments to the product. "Looking forward to working with Parag & Twitter board to make significant improvements to Twitter in coming months!" Musk said in a tweet.
Musk's term is set to expire in 2024, according to a filing with the SEC. For his entire board term or 90 days after, Musk cannot be the beneficial owner of more than 14.9% of the company's common stock outstanding. [...] After he was named to the board, Musk on Tuesday teased he would push for adjustments to the product. "Looking forward to working with Parag & Twitter board to make significant improvements to Twitter in coming months!" Musk said in a tweet.
RIP Twitter (Score:4, Insightful)
Going to turn into 4chan.
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No one ever cared what you had for breakfast.
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No one ever cared what you had for breakfast.
then he'd be on the board of directors....
Re: RIP Twitter (Score:2)
He doesn't care about Twitter. That is just his public facade that he maintains. His friend Dorsey was kicked out for being a moron and he wants to get back at the board and current ceo for that.
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Yeah, and rich people also buy sports teams for fun. What's your point?
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Re:RIP Twitter [for sanity or profit?] (Score:2)
Mixed feelings on the story, but at least the FP thread looks like it has interesting potential.
But "These are not the memes you are looking for."
At least not so far, but I have had a weird new thought about Twitter. It's even possible this story triggered it. I do think that Elon Musk is kind of evil, perhaps even deep on the dark side, but I'd be hard pressed to prove he's an idiot. So if he's investing in Twitter, then maybe it isn't as worthless as it's always seemed to me. Here's my two-part meme that
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s/meme tag/meme of memes/
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Why build the Truth network when you can buy 10% of Twitter and make Twitter do what you want?
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I'm not clear what point you are trying to make. Something about TFG?
However, I think the TFG thing can be reduced to a simple paradox any way you slice it. For example, his fans insist he is smart and competent. But if he is smart and competent, then why was he unable to collect any concrete evidence of the massive election fraud he predicted in 2020 (and 2016). He insists there was fraud and yet no trace could be found? Resolution: No evidence of fraud because there was no fraud and TFG is not smart nor c
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What point am I trying to make... I think Elon is not a lot different than Trump, other than the fact that Elon has actually been clearly successful several times. So what does Elon want with Twitter? I think Twitter gives Elon the mouth piece that he needs, but Elon needs to tweak it to serve himself better. Elon and Trump both want to control the narrative.
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Hmm... But I don't think Musk is that focused on money. Rather he's playing gold-rush games and he keeps striking it rich. Musk just loves to gamble and he's quite good at that. Or in other words, he's fairly competent, but mostly he's extremely lucky. That's why I think his interest in Twitter is more more likely to be in mining the valuable memes than in stuff like making money or even getting a bigger soapbox.
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Not a bigger soapbox, a better soapbox.
Twitter is already at least as bad as 4Chan (Score:2, Insightful)
Twitter literally allows people to open discuss pedophilia [thenextweb.com] in ways that are disturbingly close to allowing pro-pedophilia activism while banning any dissent against transgenderism.
You look at the list of things they do NOT allow in the name of being "inclusive" and "stopping bullying" and "standing up for marginalized voices," and it's pretty hard to not draw the conclusion that a lot of folks involved with their ToS view pedophiles as "marginalized people."
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NAMBLA would be proud.
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Re: Twitter is already at least as bad as 4Chan (Score:3)
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Now show me where anyone else defends those clowns?
when you are done with that print up a list of left wingers who have the same charges. When you do, ill gladly post plenty of left wing media defending them
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Where did you find this list of people that no one has heard of?
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Re: Twitter is already at least as bad as 4Chan (Score:2)
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https://www.salon.com/2012/07/01/meet_pedophiles_who_mean_well/
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At the very least raiding / ruining people's lives is against the rules on 4chan (not Twitter, it's basically encouraged to ruin people's lives on Twitter)
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People who have been online for decades at this point are familiar with the cycle.
1. People are upset about moderation policies.
2. Upset people build a new platform, or take over an old one.
3. People realize with horror that no moderation creates a dumpster fire.
4. Horrified people implement moderation.
Re:RIP Twitter (Score:5, Funny)
Going to turn into 4chan.
I doubt even Musk can bring Twitter up to 4chans level.
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But probably *can* impose a 420 twits a day limit . . . :)
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I've had far more interesting discussions on 4chan than anything posted on twitter. Maybe you just suck at making filters?
Damn it. (Score:4, Interesting)
I'd joke that he'll have Twitter keep launching new/updated ideas until they stop blowing up, but that actually worked out pretty well for SpaceX.
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i hope he is not as excited about twitter as he was about discord and myspace. worry then, for sure.
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yea, the equivalent of going back in time to kill john connor....twitter is BD(beforeDRM).
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While Biden certainly hasn't been a good president so far (my opinion), all the delusional dumbasses that don't have the first idea of how the global economy works, or what a cum hoc/post hoc fallacy is, are blaming Biden for the inflation in the US, which of course isn't limited to the US, but is currently going on almost everywhere in the world for a whole string of causes, believing
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Trump and his global peers started it, by borrowing recklessly from the future, allegedly because of COVID.
Biden and most of his global peers have GREATLY worsened it, by doing more of the same, on an even grander scale.
Those of us who believe in limited government, rule of law, free enterprise, sound money, and peace through strength, have not had an ally in the White House since the days of Reagan. Trump was doing OK until COVID, but he and most of his followers bought into the lies hook, line, and sinke
Interesting how he was able to leverage 9.2% (Score:3)
I really didn't see how Elon could manage any kind of change at Twitter with just 9.2% of the stock.
But now I see, that was a warning shot and he was basically telling them he might consider owning more than 50%... that's why a condition of them bringing Musk onto the board and working on issues with him, is that he holds no more than 15% of the stock.
Pretty good deal to be able to change a company like Twitter buying under 10% of the stock.
I really hope this means some positive changes coming to Twitter. Might happen if Musk continues his poll-driven collection of enhancement requests.
Re:Interesting how he was able to leverage 9.2% (Score:5, Insightful)
It's only one seat on a board of (currently) 11. It would be trivial for everyone else to just vote down anything he wants to see happen, and thank him for the investment and self-restriction to not buy more and lead some proxy vote wars or a full-on hostile takeover.
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The huge corporation I work for had one of those "activist investors" do just that 3 or 4 years ago, but they told him to blow it out of his ear, and then lined up a a bunch of people who showed how his ideas to "unlock shareholder value" would destroy the company in the medium term, despite generating a lot of ca
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Unfortunately all Elon has to do is post in twitter something negative about the rest of the board, and that will either get the board voted out in the next AGM, or the stock price will crash.
Or Elon just has to step down and sell all his twitter holdings. Even if he did not say a single word about it, that will cause the stock to crash under the assumption that Elon is thinking that twitter is "unsavable" or that he may start a competitor since he has been talking about making his own social app / site rec
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Even at 9.2%, he's the biggest single shareholder. That'd be pretty hard to ignore at any publicly traded company.
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Note: he didn't change anything, yet.
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Someone said he is seriously in favor of free speech. If so, then I support him.
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He has repeatedly been for free speech at least in public.
Like his latest tweet on the topic:
"Starlink has been told by some governments (not Ukraine) to block Russian news sources. We will not do so unless at gunpoint.
Sorry to be a free speech absolutist."
Asperger running a social network? (Score:1, Troll)
Re: Asperger running a social network? (Score:2)
You mean like Mark Zuckerberg?
Re: Asperger running a social network? (Score:2)
Touché sir, I tip my hat to you.
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Seeing Twitter and "critical social underpinnings" in the same sentence made me throw up a little bit in my mouth.
Re:Conscientious person running a social network (Score:5, Insightful)
Lol. Selling paypal and getting $175 million in cash certainly helps with the ladies. You really seem to be on his nuts for some reason. He’s not your friend and if you got in his way he’d litigate you into oblivion. That or call you a pedophile.
Re: Conscientious person running a social network (Score:1)
Go look into his union busting activities. (Score:2)
intersting idea you have there (Score:2)
Union busting" has always been an interesting term to me.
Let's see... person X has an idea, rounds up some friends, and invests his money and that of his friends in starting a business, and they offer jobs to people. Nobody forces those people to take the jobs; the jobs are offered with a proposition: "you do this work for me in the following conditions, and I will compensate you with this pay and these additional benefits". The people take those jobs, but then later double-back and say "pay us more or we w
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Union busting" has always been an interesting term to me.
[snip]
I haven't seen such a well-constructed strawman since The Wizard of OZ
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Someone who is a free speech "absolutist", a term that Musk uses to describe himself.
Despite calling himself a 'free speech absolutist,' Elon Musk has a history of retaliation against employees and critics [businessinsider.com]
Elon Musk on Saturday criticized Twitter for "failing to adhere to free speech principles," which he said "fundamentally undermines democracy."
The Tesla CEO, who has previously referred to himself as a "free speech absolutist," has a track record of silencing critics with threats of lawsuits and firing employees who disagree with him.
"Seems @elonmusk is a free speech absolutist unless it
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Someone who is a free speech "absolutist", a term that Musk uses to describe himself.
That's good to hear.
Re:Conscientious person running a social network (Score:5, Insightful)
Someone who is a free speech "absolutist", a term that Musk uses to describe himself.
Another word for that would be "extremist", and like most things involving extremist positions, they end up sucking.
A totally free speech Twitter like Musk claims to want would be a total unusable cesspit. What he really means is he wants to be able to do what he wants with zero repercussions.
Lol (Score:2)
Elon is such a reasonable Asperger master. (Score:1)
Just like his email to the Tesla underlings, it should be easy to talk back to the entitled, selfish, vindictive master who welcomes being told he is wrong! Right?
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To: Everybody
From: Elon Musk
Date: Monday October 4 [time redacted]
Subj. Please Note
If an email is sent from me with explicit directions, there are only three actions allowed by managers.
1. Email me back to explain why what I said was incorrect. Sometimes, I’m just plain wrong!
2. Request further clarification if what I said
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So basically...
Option 1: Start an argument with me so I can find a reason to fire you.
Option 2: Tell me you don't understand, and I'll use that as a reason to fire you.
Option 3: Do what I say, which is the only real option if you want to keep your job.
He's such an open, understanding guy!
ACQUIRE Trump Media and Technology Group! (Score:3)
He is not an innovator, he is a... (Score:3, Insightful)
... banker, a finance guy. People really need to stop encouraging him. Money can't buy creativity or ingenuity. The fact his first "idea" was an edit button says it all. The least creative way to solve a non-problem. Please... please... stop fanboying this man, he is not your friend and doesn't have your interests in mind.
Clearer rules and appeal process would be nice (Score:3, Interesting)
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I'll bet there's more here than you innocently quoting the US Surgeon General.
I'm inferring the offending tweet as that was the most inflammatory on my feed, and was posted within 24hrs of the account being suspended. (my feed was 80% dedicated to posting homemade engineering project updates a-la AppliedScience or AvE.)
Nope, no warning, and nothing that violated Twitter rules that I can tell. I tried an appeal but ~4 months later got a single-line response it was closed with no update or clarification.
I have since moved to a freer platform and have rebuilt a good chunk of my geekly
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My reply was simply "I agree, slap um all"
Perma ban for "targeted bullying"
oh, and the dude i replied to is still up and running though, and my acct has not had any bans or warnings prior...
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I think the trick with social sites like Twitter and Reddit is to avoid the "main page" full of political dumpster fires or talking kittens. Twitter is great if you follow a select few for updates on technology (or whatever you like) but avoid trending topics. I have found nothing positive with Facebook or TikTok however.
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I was banned from Twitter for 'COVID misinformation', by quoting the Surgeon General stating that masks were ineffective against COVID.
And? Twitter wasn't wrong. Just because you quoted misinformation doesn't make your post any less misinformation.
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If Twitter actually cared about misinformation they would have banned the Surgeon General and not someone retweeting him.
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How about reposting the tweet here?
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How about reposting the tweet here?
Granted Slashdot ain't what it used to be, but I'd rather not risk being de-platformed.
It's probably safe posting the MSM news article talking about it though, so: https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/29... [cnn.com]
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So you're a pussy then.
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Granted Slashdot ain't what it used to be, but I'd rather not risk being de-platformed.
I'm confused here. How long have you been on Slashdot? It looks like you've only been posting since Feb of 2019. Did you have another account before this one? Or did you lurk for a long time before you got an account. I did that. I started reading in 1997 a little bit after the name change, but waited for a while to actually get an account.
Also unsure of what you mean by "what it used to be" in the context of being "de-platformed". This is Slashdot. The moderation system has always been user centric and bas
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It looks like you've only been posting since Feb of 2019
One can read Slashdot articles without having an account. I was around back when sites getting 'slashdotted' due to traffic was still a thing, hehe.
Twitter's process for warnings/suspensions/appeals is notoriously arbirary, and without a large base or friends in high places, it's not uncommon for a suspended account to be permanently suspended, even by accident. https://www.cnet.com/tech/serv... [cnet.com]
I'd suggest doing a cursory Reddit/Google search for users wrongfully/arbitrarily suspended by Twitter to f
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One can read Slashdot articles without having an account. I was around back when sites getting 'slashdotted' due to traffic was still a thing, hehe.
Which I did note as a possibility in my post and did ask you about. I still find it hard to imagine anyone going quite that long before ever getting an account. You're not me, of course, so you do you.
Twitter's process for warnings/suspensions/appeals is notoriously arbirary, and without a large base or friends in high places, it's not uncommon for a suspended account to be permanently suspended, even by accident. https://www.cnet.com/tech/serv... [cnet.com]
No disagreement there. Among the reasons why I don't have a Twitter account. Another being that the artificially short message size it started with was ridiculously confining, but also seemed, from my perspective, to be intentionally designed to drive conflict. This is because I have a (perhaps naïve) pri
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Was the quote:
"They are NOT effective in preventing general public from catching #Coronavirus, but if healthcare providers can't get them to care for sick patients, it puts them and our communities at risk!"
from Surgeon General Jerome Adams back in Feb. 2020? Trump's (although, oddly, not sworn in by him for some reason, with Pence doing it instead) surgeon general? The one from a tweet that he deleted? That he later tried to walk back by saying:
"I was saying that then because of everything we knew about coronaviruses before that point told us that people were not likely to spread when they were asymptomatic. So the science at the time suggested that there was not a high degree of asymptomatic spread. We learned more,"
I mean, he was certainly a better choice for Surgeon General than Ronny "[Trump] has incredibly good genes" and "BTW, would you like some hard drugs that I happen to have in my pocket" Jackson (the first quote is real, the second one is not an actual quot
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The SEC is going to love that (Score:2)
User swappable algorithm needed (Score:2)
What Twitter ultimately needs is a user-programmable algorithm. Before you idiots say that would fuck-off the CPU/data usage .. it can be done without fucking off the CPU -- but thats not a topic for this comment. Anyway, what I am saying is that users should be allowed a limited amount of programmability in their feeds to create or purchase third-party algorithms to determine what shows up in it. For example, if you decide to follow a certain hashtag, you can have your algorithm apply certain criteria to d
Added him to keep him from buying more (Score:2)
Not sure that is a good outcome.
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Elon Musk is becoming Kanye West 2.0.
I can appreciate what he has accomplished,
If you truly appreciated what Musk has accomplished, then you wouldn't be comparing him to Kanye.
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Exactly. Kanye started without money. Musk had family backing, and therefore is much more accomplished.
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What does free speech have to do with private-industry technology platforms like Twitter?
Also, he's highly technically literate, has "fuck you" money, tends to get things done, is creative and regularly identifies and fixes problems.
Is Twitter known as a company with a technical competence deficit? Rocket science translates to large-scale internet platforms? Is there something Twitter wanted to do that if couldn't
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Recently?
Grifters gonna grift. (Score:2, Insightful)
He's the richest man on Earth. If that doesn't tell you what a shit show Earth is, I don't know what will. He's an enormous fucking ego with hypocrisy to match and the maturity of your average middle schooler, so yea Kanye is a good comparison. I can't wait for the South Park episode.
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Strictly speaking, a can of gasoline and a match might produce a significant improvement.
Re: Iâ(TM)m so over Musk (Score:2)
There's nobody left who knows how to fix that. It's likely also why the mobile version still doesn't have a working back function when writing a comment.
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Doesn't mean its okay for FB to act like they're not political hacks and then silence all the people they disagree with.
Even if that's not illegal (and it shouldn't be), doesn't mean the market isn't going sour on it.
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Actually it also covers agents of the government even if they are civilian businesses. All businesses doing business with the government sign a contract that states that they will comply fully with the constitution.