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Microsoft Reportedly May Acquire BlackBerry 129

New submitter techtsp writes: Microsoft is just one one of many companies reportedly looking to get a bigger piece of the enterprise mobile market by buying BlackBerry. Reports claim that Chinese firms including Huawei, Lenovo and Xiaomi are also interested in picking up BlackBerry following the company's recent return to profitability. This report comes on the heels of BlackBerry announcing it is cutting jobs across its global business units in an attempt to consolidate its software, hardware and applications business.
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Microsoft Reportedly May Acquire BlackBerry

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  • by Stormwatch ( 703920 ) <rodrigogirao AT hotmail DOT com> on Sunday May 24, 2015 @03:26PM (#49764591) Homepage

    This one will be easier, Microsoft won't have to plant a trojan CEO to annihilate the company's market share first.

    • by marcello_dl ( 667940 ) on Sunday May 24, 2015 @03:33PM (#49764633) Homepage Journal

      > Microsoft won't have to plant a trojan CEO
      Who knows. Maybe they did.

    • by Anonymous Coward

      nokia was already dead when he joined them. Not saying he did them any good, but Nokia were going down with or without him.

      • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 24, 2015 @04:35PM (#49764889)

        Nokia was selling more smartphones than Apple and Samsung put together when Elop came aboard.

        • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

          by kamapuaa ( 555446 )

          Nope. Elop came on board at at the time when Android has just recently surpassed Symbian, and when iPhone was dominant in the category of expensive smart phones. Plus, Symbian sucked too hard to really be called a proper smartphone.

          • by aliquis ( 678370 )

            But Nokia didn't only sell smartphones or even mostly smartphones.

            They sold future-phones and dumb-phones too.

            So you may both be correct.

            That they still sold a bunch of phones though shitty ones which couldn't compete in the premium market doesn't really matter all that much.

          • by Anonymous Coward

            Please see the graph showing the smartphone quarterly sales:
            http://seekingalpha.com/article/916271-how-stephen-elop-destroyed-nokia

            See that top line? Way above the others? Thats Nokia.

            You cannot rewrite history in the Internet age, Elop was a trojan horse,.

            http://www.cnet.com/news/nokias-windows-phone-bear-hug-is-choking-the-mighty-finn/

            • I love that article. 5 seconds of Googling shows that Elop didn't actually become CEO of Nokia until the end of 2010, but for some reason the article decides to start half a year earlier, with the sales record of the previous CEO, who was forced out for poor performance. You're reading an article that's more concerned with being a hit piece than the truth.

              Another 10 seconds of Googling shows that at the beginning of 2011, Android was the top smartphone OS: http://www.tomsguide.com/us/an... [tomsguide.com]

              Elop talked abou

              • Sigh....MSFT didn't have to do a damned thing, neither did Elop as Nokia was already fucked as they pulled the same shit that Palm did, wasting their time at #1 pocketing cash and going in a dozen directions at once instead of actually innovating and staying ahead of the curve!

                Break down their sales when they were last #1....what was that? It was nearly 100% Symbian "feature phones" with an OS so damned old it felt like running Windows 2 in 2005? Bingo, we have a winnar! Symbian was waaaaaaay too fucking ol

                • by Rob Y. ( 110975 )

                  The point isn't really the timing of Elop's arrival - it's what Elop did with the situation. Going whole hog on Windows when Android was clearly the most successful alternative to iOS was pure Elop. It was a big bet with two possible outcomes:

                  1. Success - in which case Nokia has a headstart on becoming just another producer of Windows phones (i.e. first mover in a replay of PC commodification). After all, if they succeeded, then Samsung and the rest would be right behind them.

                • I own several Nokia devices, including feature phones, "future phones" and smart devices (both S60 and S^3) - but not a single Windows phone (for what it's worth, I'm also a former resident of Finland up until shortly before Elop happened).

                  Irrespective of how much you may love Elop and think that Nokia was going down the tubes, are you seriously going to sit there and bitch about Nokia devices which are difficult as shit to break, hold a charge for ages and don't need to be restarted every other week and ch

          • by Celarent Darii ( 1561999 ) on Sunday May 24, 2015 @11:39PM (#49766361)

            Actually no. Elop came in 2011, when Nokia was still selling more phones than Samsung and Apple. However *Android* had just begun to have majority of marketshare.

            http://25labs.com/a-quarter-of... [25labs.com]

            During his tenure Nokia's marketshare went from 38% to 3% (yes, that is right, 3 percent) source. [wikipedia.org].

            Elop was a disaster and got paid a 18.8 million dollar bonus on his departure from Nokia.

          • by gl4ss ( 559668 )

            the year elop came onboard was the best selling year for the symbian smartphones.

            though, if they had kept the same middle layers they would still have been fucked - elop or not. elop accelerated things considerably though, by announcing windows phones when they were selling symbian phones by the boatloads(EXCEPT in USA. a market that traditionally was a niche market for Nokia really and rightfully so). for some reason the board was hell bent on conquering the low profit shitty carrier ran smartphone market

      • I think this may be release 2.0 of the Microsoft-aided business plan. It used to be:

        1. Found startup doing something Microsoft doesn't do.
        2. Wait to be bought out by Microsoft.
        3. Profit!

        Now it's:

        1. Wait till your cellphone company is in its death throes.
        2. Wait to be bought... well, you know the rest.

        If you work for a cellphone vendor I guess you know it's time to dust off your resume when you hear rumours that you're being bought by Microsoft.

      • by aliquis ( 678370 )

        The Nokia stock is up above where it was than the Windows phone deal was announced.

        Which also was a pretty weird reaction even though it would be in line with what I felt about the ideas before-hand but considering analysts / at least some people had said that was what they should do and then it tanked anyway =P

        Anyway. Stock price recovered. And now they don't make phones.

        • And now they don't make phones.

          But they do make a high-end Android tablet, and an unique Android launcher. Maybe this does not sound like much, but it is widely speculated that they will make Android phones in 2016. They are just waiting for the non-compete clause of their deal with the devil to run out.

          And it would be a wise move, I believe. The Nokia brand is still incredibly strong in developing countries; it was only Windows Phone that poisoned their sales.

        • Are you sure you're not looking at the other Nokia - the part that M$ didn't buy?

          • by aliquis ( 678370 )

            I look at the Nokia which is Nokia.
            Not what is now Microsoft.
            I talk about Nokia not Microsoft.

            The fact is that Windows phone and number of phones manufactured or not Nokia according to the market is worth about the same. That the phone business has been sold of is irrelevant. The price for that include what it contained and was.

            Finns who held the stock through this time is likely about or better of by now (whatever you measure before it was announced or after matters.)
            Of course having changed to the market

    • Popcorn futures are already up 5%. This is going to be fun!

    • why would Microsoft double down on a dying dud? nothing there but dead weight, a black hole.

      patents are cheaper in Chapter 7.

  • by billDCat ( 448249 ) on Sunday May 24, 2015 @03:39PM (#49764657) Homepage

    From the author's bio: "He is having immense interest in psychology, human behavior and mind hacks."

    Given that as well as the bad grammar, I'm pretty sure this is made up to get a reaction.

  • by dpbsmith ( 263124 ) on Sunday May 24, 2015 @04:05PM (#49764769) Homepage

    I'm sure this will be as big a success for Microsoft as their acquisition of Danger, Incorporated, developer of the Danger Hiptop/T-Mobile Sidekick, which led the innovative, exciting, youth-oriented Microsoft Kin. And the rest is history.

    • You know, if they made a 4G LTE Sidekick, I'd buy it in a heart beat. I miss my old Sidekick from the day of feature phones and crappy 3G service.

      Or I'd settle for a regular high end smart phone with a god damn keyboard. I love swype but I really preferred typing on a slide out keyboard... and not one that felt odd by only having a protruding end on one side (HTC G1).
  • by xeno ( 2667 ) on Sunday May 24, 2015 @04:08PM (#49764783)

    I'm horrified, partly because I'm on the verge of buying a BB Passport. It's the best thing they've done in years, and since playing with SWMBO's (she bought one instead of a galaxy edge, after much comparison). The BB has a nice android implementation, simple hack to add the Google apps, better security and sandboxing of droid apps, and real keys with a touch surface that flows right onto the 1440x1440 touchscreen. Oh, and all that stuffy Blackberry stuff. It's a truly awesome piece of hardware. And now Redmond wants to gut 'em for their IP portfolio and security reputation?

    In the mobile market, Microsoft is like King Midas in reverse: everything they touch turns to shit.* But this isn't a rant about Microsoft, it's a worry that Blackberry -- having done the amazing job of pulling out of the total nosedive they were in -- might get stomped just as they level out, and ship something even better. What a disappointment that would be.

    *apologies to Tony Soprano

    • by Prune ( 557140 )
      You nailed it. I wish I had mod points...
    • by 93 Escort Wagon ( 326346 ) on Sunday May 24, 2015 @05:20PM (#49765079)

      ... it's a worry that Blackberry -- having done the amazing job of pulling out of the total nosedive they were in ...

      Uh, what the heck are you talking about [academia.edu]?

      • Wow, way to link to some obscure student essay just to have an argument. Maybe you could've pulled the actual financials from google instead: http://press.blackberry.com/co... [blackberry.com]
        Q4 2015: positive cashflow of $76Million versus a negative cashflow of 784Million in Q4 2014
        Q4 2015: cash and investments of $3.27 billion, up $608Million from Q4 2014
        Q4 2015: earnings of $0.04 per share, versus loss of $0.08 per share in Q4 2014

        I would say the original claim of them pulling out of a nosedive would be accurate
    • by Anonymous Coward

      Pulling out of a nosedive? The company is gutted, their products aren't remotely competitive. Buy a passport, Just know it won't be supported

    • by smugfunt ( 8972 )

      King Midas in reverse: everything they touch turns to shit.*
      *apologies to Tony Soprano

      Graham Nash [wikipedia.org] in1967, but since Midas lived about 3000 years ago I doubt this was the first time the notion occurred to anyone.

    • I'm liking my passport fwiw. Quite happy with it.
      It generates lots of "what is that?" questions. (Funniest one thus far: "A Blackberry, what, are you Canadian?")
      By the time BlackBerry is assimilated (or recovers) I will be on to a different handset.
  • Patents (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 24, 2015 @04:08PM (#49764785)

    MS wants to buy the patents. The let the rest die.

    • And Chinese want (Score:2, Interesting)

      by Anonymous Coward

      the encription tech.

      Trust me, either way Blackberry will lose a large amount of customers almost overnight.

  • Very possible considering the fact that the entire Canadian government web infrastructure and most of the Provincial ones have all become dedicated Microsoft centric infrastructures. The same thing goes for all the crown Corps like the CBC and most universities so the acquisition and dismemberment of BlackBerry at the hands of Microsoft would come as no surprise at all.

    It has been the goal of Microsoft to dominate all digital communications in the western world and as far as possible elsewhere. The acquisit

    • by Anonymous Coward

      The Canadian government does a lot of Linux on the presentation (web) tier. I won't lie, Microsoft is all over the place but so is big iron Unix (AIX, HP-UX) and a lot of that is migrating to Linux. Some departments may be only Microsoft but the new Shared Services Canada (one IT department for all departments) uses both Linux and Microsoft. Desktop is pretty much MS all the way though with Exchange on the back end.

    • by Guppy ( 12314 )

      The Scroogle campaign has not to date done much to Bing the Google thing but it is obvious that the campaign to undermine, defame and absorb them is still alive and screwing over the market place! Milo Minderbinder has nothing on Microsoft!

      Microsoft has already switched tactics, recognizing the Scroogle campaign was going nowhere. Currently the main thrust to boost search is through free "Windows with Bing" devices (pairing up with Intel's anti-ARM contra-revenue strategy), and the Android-with-Microsoft ecosystem they are trying to build up through Samsung and Cyanogen.

  • Don't be touching my Blackberry Microsoft!!!!
    • by fisted ( 2295862 )

      I tried the Blackberry Microsoft for a while, and it isn't even so bad.

      commas -- fundamentally changing the meaning of sentences since 300 BC

  • by msobkow ( 48369 ) on Sunday May 24, 2015 @05:34PM (#49765147) Homepage Journal

    Once they acquire the patents, they'll make a tablet with a keyboard and insist it's not a laptop. :P

  • Military Use (Score:5, Informative)

    by Frosty Piss ( 770223 ) * on Sunday May 24, 2015 @06:12PM (#49765319)

    Just a small note, the military is switching to the iPhone 6 from the BlackBerry. Most of the leadership at the very large DoD facility I work for turned in their BlackBerries a few months back for iPhones.

  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]

    OMFG, does the evil Empire really need to strike again?!?

  • Instead of sinking billions into Blackberry, why not spend $500mil on making higher quality apps on the Marketplace store? I bet if they create enough high quality apps/games and then making them free it would pay much higher dividend than acquire another niche mobile device maker. Haven't they learned already that Nokia was a dying ship? The Tmobile Sidekick/Danger was another dying ship before their acquisition.
  • Canada considers BlackBerry as a national Canadian treasure of sorts. It's a huge success story and has been the backbone of just an immense number of high-tech jobs. BlackBerry is a flagship company. As such, Ottawa will never allow it to be sold to outsiders like Microsoft or anyone else.

    It's just not going to happen.

    This means the value of the company is a lot less than it seems since the value can't be taken out of Canada in any meaningful way.

    • by etinin ( 1144011 )
      so was Nokia. Oulu, with its once pride big economy is now in tatters.
    • That's pretty sad that you need the government to defend and bail out the single Canadian success story.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    Shit + more shit = shit

  • I've never read so much crap from the anti-microsoft brigade for a long time.
    I bet that all of them hadn't tried Windows phone 8 and so they feel that they can run it into the ground because it's MS.
    The phones are great. The OS is excellent and works well on low end phones too. The Windows store is better than you think and the gui and general operation is easy to use esp with One Drive. Cortana is brilliant. Hands off answers my sms-s with voice recognition.
    It all a matter of choice and preference. You lik

    • by Anonymous Coward

      You bet?
      You know what I think?
      Cortana is brilliant?

      Go fuck yourself.

    • by gavron ( 1300111 )

      > I've never read so much crap...

      Your illiteracy isn't something about which you should be bragging. Learn to read and then read about Microsoft and you'll read lots more crap than you ever thought existed -- all earned by Microsoft through its incompetence at software engineering.

      > I bet that all of them hadn't tried Windows phone 8

      Your wagering skills aren't something about which you should be bragging. Windows Mobile has been a scourge since 2002 when Microsoft owned the market, and lost it throu

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