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Ask the damn question (Score:4, Interesting)
At what point does one consider oneself to be no longer alive in the classic sense of "aliveness"? Use such constructs as prosthetics, brain-to-computer transference/memory storage, supercorporealism, or biological senility, as you see fit.
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Yeah, eventually it will be possible to transfer a person's consciousness to a computer.
But that raises the question of who will be in control of the computer(s). If it's a ruthless dictator with a lot of insecurity then everyone else might have their consciousness modified to love and worship the dictator. Or, for people the dictator didn't like, they might be subjected to billions of years of excruciating torture. As it is, old age and death puts at least some limitation on the suffering that people can i
Re: Ask the damn question (Score:3)
If I uploaded your consciousness without your body, would you still consider it "you?" What if I could do it without destroying your body? If I could take a snapshot of your brain and upload a virtual copy of you into a game for my amusement, are you affected in any way?
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If I had a pop tart for breakfast today, then you uploaded my conciousness without my destroying my body tomorrow, they'd be two completely separate entities who could both legitimately claim that they were eating a pop tar for breakfast this morning. Similarly, before you upload my conciousness I could happily say that I'd still consider myself to be alive provided I'm either around in bodily form in the copy of my conciousness you're about to make exists. After you do the upload both of these future entit
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So would you prefer your V-Brain to be running on Hyper-V or VMWare? What about checkpointing your V-Brain and clone a whole farm of V-You's?
Put your brain in a jar (Score:1)
This is why the only option to preserve your unique consciousness is to extract your brain and place it in some kind of jar that controls a robot.
Or, better yet, extract your brain and implant it into a new, identical body that was created via some kind of cloning process.
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Or say you did and hide the evidence.
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I don't think anyone forgets that. It's like a defining character trait.
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"Yeah, eventually it will be possible to transfer a person's consciousness to a computer."
some say it has already happened. there are around 172 billion cells inside the brain. the fastest computer i see parts for is if you can cope with using gpus as massively parallel support would have 4 3276 gflops gpus plus one cpu that likely has between 4 and 30 gflops. those computer devices have upto 1.7 billion transistors on the cpu and upto 6.2 billion transistors per gpu...
granted such tech needs either several
Re:Ask the damn question (Score:5, Informative)
the 10% myth was blown out of the water years ago, why do people insist on perpetuating it?
Nature abhors waste.
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...it's the 10 percenters who keep perpetuating it.
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Consciousness is abstract. Computers are concrete. It will be possible to transfer consciousness to a computer when a million monkeys write and score the Broadway version of "Mein Kamph" . You can however script reasonably predictable responses to f.a.q. in an A.I. environment with a suitable amount of programming and bloodletting. Not the same thing, but it appears impressive to the masses.
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i was going more for the undead variety of life ever after.
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When you're fit to feed to worms. Not respiring. The last fart leaves your cooling body. Roughly 7 minutes after your heart quits beating.First your vision will go, then a couple minutes later your hearing ceases, then the immense pain goes away right before your last thought. Fine'. 7-9 minutes.
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I don't know, but the poll question explicitly states "conventionally alive." At this point the usual indication of death is brain death. Even if you choose other indicators you're only changing the granularity of date of death by a little bit in the big picture.
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I'm not entirely sure... (Score:1)
... when I'll kick it, but I'm fairly certain my last words will be "You'll never take me alive, coppers!"
You're already dead... (Score:2)
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Other than the fact that all the plants around the world became geneticists, I rather liked the movie. Of course, I don't like people much, so there's that.
3 to 5 Years (Score:5, Insightful)
Dad died when he was in his mid 50's. Grandad died when he was in his mid 50's. I'm in my mid 50's. Considering the advances and that I do exercise more and eat a bit better, I might last a bit longer than either of them. But not much longer.
So live life to its fullest and enjoy it while you can.
[John]
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So live life to its fullest and enjoy it while you can.
I think that's great advice for anyone, no matter how old they are.
Remember, today is the last day of your life, so far!
Life, is a very dangerous adventure . . . no one has survived it yet!
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You're right of course, but I don't think that's what anyone here is suggesting. 'Live life to the full' != 'live each day as if it were your last' (the latter of which is of course preposterous on the face of it).
Anyway, why would I want to lie in my death-bed my whole life? :P
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Yeah, I chose 10 years. Mom died at 62, Dad at 72. I'm 56 and have high blood pressure even though I eat healthy and walk a lot.
Dr. Fuhrman and Dr. Weil might help (Score:2)
http://www.drfuhrman.com/libra... [drfuhrman.com]
http://www.drweil.com/ [drweil.com]
Mostly eat a lot more vegetables, fruits, and beans (or other healthy carbs) and a lot less of most other stuff, especially processed foods. Make sure to get enough vitamin D and iodine.
Increasing blood pressure could be a sign of clogging arteries; that can generally be reversed by an anti-inflammatory diet. Related:
https://www.drfuhrman.com/dise... [drfuhrman.com]
http://www.drfuhrman.com/libra... [drfuhrman.com]
And also on infrastructure: http://www.bluezones.com/ [bluezones.com]
And on escaping "th
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You can live longer than that. My boss at work is 66 years old and she can still ride a bicycle for 20 miles.
Talk to your doctor. If you smoke, quit. If you drink, cut back. If you eat a lot of fatty foods, change your diet. If you don't exercise, start exercising right away. It's never too late to change. You could live for another 20-30 years, not 3-5.
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Don't drink (didn't voluntarily take a drink until 10 years ago at 47 and only have tried different drinks a couple of times a year since then), never smoked or done drugs, I do eat more junk food than I should, exercise regularly (3 times a week on the weights, bicycling most of the year). Divorced twice.
Both sides of my family smoked (Dad, Mom, Dad's Dad, Mom's Dad) although both Dad and Mom quit when I was young. Both sides drank and as I understand Dad's Dad was quite the drinker and a bit abusive.
On th
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Your name is "Bigbutt" and you expect to die like your male family members in your mid-50s.
Please talk to your doctor about bariatric surgery.
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Read my journal entry.
[John]
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That really depends on what killed your father and grandfather. One of my grandfathers died pretty young because of an infection is his appendix. My father had his appendix removed a couple of years ago in an emergency operation after it got infected. Looks like I need to keep this is mind.
But now that doctors know what to do about this, it doesn't mean that my father gets to live "a little longer" - there is no way to know what the next problem is or whether it comes before he's 80.
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Heart attacks. Since they were of the "meat and potatoes" generations, plus a smoker and drinker (Dad did quit before I was aware that he smoked and Mom quit several years later), it's probably more of a bad diet sort of thing. While I'm not perfect, my diet is a bit better. We'll see eventually :)
[John]
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I hope you die soon, faggot.
And I hope you die soon and before reproducing. It continuously amazes me what kind of sick people we have even here on a fairly smart /. forum
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Dying is for sissies (Score:3, Insightful)
I plan to live forever, or die trying. Currently my plan is for life extension technologies to tide me over until we have a proper solution for mortality. Nevertheless I don't plan to avoid every little hazard because that is no way to live. Backup plan is to freeze my head, and wait for the technology to restore me from cold storage, even if they have to scan my frozen brain synapse by synapse or even closer than that.
Once the technology is available, I plan to always keep a backup on several disks. In fact I think I might end up giving up my current body to live in a simulated world -- not only is it eco-friendly, but it would open up various possibilities for improving my life that the current laws of physics and economics don't allow. Besides this it would mean I can have more than 24 hours per day, or I could take a *really long* nap if I should get bored of the current world. Or I could edit away some of my character flaws, if I dare. I plan to be part of a virtual community with proper permissions settings, so that involuntary interactions aren't allowed (ie, not merely illegal, but they just can't happen unless you have root access).
I invite you all to help in building this afterlife. As they say, God helps those who help themselves. We'll build a to-scale model of the various paradises, for fun, although I think most would rather live in a more modern setting. Join us -- I'd say it will be heavenly, but I like to aim higher than that.
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Backup plan is to freeze my head, and wait for the technology to restore me from cold storage, even if they have to scan my frozen brain synapse by synapse or even closer than that.
Won't work because in the future noone will give a shit about you to go through the (Probably expensive) procedure to revive you.
I invite you all to help in building this afterlife.
Meh. That will take too much time, too stressful and considering you will need to convince the rest of the world: impossible.
Besides, why do I want to be old longer? My choice is to enjoy the time I have of my existance with my loved ones and die at about 75. Thats a good age to go before the really terrible age-related decline really hits.
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My grandfather is 88 -- no decline. Watches TV, plays games online, has a girlfriend 40 years his junior. He has no money too, so that is not a factor. Grandma died early of the most horrible Alzheimers. Will see if I get lucky.
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Even if your grandfather dies tomorrow... I'd be impressed. It's not when you die, it is what you did while you are alive and how you died. If you are having fun one day and simply didn't wake up the next, I'd say you pretty much won at life.
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Backup plan is to freeze my head, and wait for the technology to restore me from cold storage, even if they have to scan my frozen brain synapse by synapse or even closer than that.
Won't work because in the future noone will give a shit about you to go through the (Probably expensive) procedure to revive you.
I'm more concerned that freezing (or rotting at room temperature while they get around to freezing) will cause unrecoverable data loss. As for revival, it will be done for the same reasons we spend millions on dying patients and the same reasons we would revive frozen cavemen if we could. As for price, the first few would be expensive and dangerous but then the price will go down, and some rich guys have made the appropriate financial arrangements for their own revival.
As for overpopulation, who's to say th
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That is a fascinating creature. Thank you for the link.
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Those other creatures have different genetic code. You are human, you are coded to age badly and die, and so you shall. We normally don't spend millions on dying patients unless they are rich, instead they are put into "palliative care" until they die. Enjoy the rest of your short human life as much as possible, because there will be nothing afterward.
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The above post is exactly what I meant by "dying is for sissies". "I have a terminal condition but I can't be arsed to do anything about it."
I'm coded to have a brain, and I plan to use my brain to help find a cure to the whole "age badly and die" shortcoming in our current bodies. Note that there is nothing saying that it theoretically can't be done (unless you question surviving the heat death of the universe), and in fact every living creature has the necessary code for rejuvenation. Otherwise babies wou
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the "for you" was implied. You might have things reserved or done for you before birth, but after death there is nothing for you.
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All you have to do is survive until it happens.
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I plan to live forever
Be careful what you wish for. The Black Hole Era will probably be on the boring side and the Dark Era will be downright tedious.
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I plan to be part of a virtual community with proper permissions settings
My recommendation: Read the CC&Rs [nolo.com] very carefully.
until TSA gets me, eventually (Score:4, Insightful)
Given their entire organization's history of abuse, sexual perversion (starting with the "no undergarments" duck-walk of attractive women in a Washington stairwell, and the on-camera "office searches", continuing through the nudie scanners that weren't "supposed to" provide full images, but did, through the multiplicity of groping incidents, all with no punishment of the offenders), and general stupidity and malice, I have avoided airports and any other venue likely to be infested with TSA. Some time, though, I'll likely be forced by circumstances to risk it, and, inevitably, things will go badly.
I smoke, I drink, and I'm... (Score:1)
....realistic. I've also shagged a few questionable women in my time and since I'll be 56 this year and being realistic about my past and current behaviors I know I have little hope of surviving another ten years. I'm already planning on applying for Social Security when I'm 62 to get what little I can back from the system I've been paying into for the last 40 years.
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Forever, without the Amen (Score:1)
I'm a biochemist studying aging. Let me put it this way
Ya'll mothafuckas are gonna live forever, so long as you pay me for the shiny new drugs I'll be pimping (ok, the marketing people will be pimping...) in about a decades time. Think "fountain of youth". All that stuff about life inevitably breaking down is just nonsense, turns out there's no physical reason you can't live forever. Or at least until the heat death of the universe or there about.
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Wow. I am so convinced that you are an elite biochemist and we are only a decade away from immortality. Can you also tell me about the flying cars and cold fusion devices that you are working on in your spare time?
WTF (Score:1)
Unless you have a diagnosed terminal illness (and even then it's a window), you have no idea. Any guess is delusional. You might be dead in an hour from now or you might be dead well past 100 years old.
Planning for retirement, sure. Planning your funeral arrangements, sure. Planning for death at a certain age is a stupid way to live.
10 years or less (Score:1)
When you have an inevitably lethal disease like some cancers, Parkinson's, MS, and all the others, your thoughts about how long you are going to live change drastically. Your outlook on life also changes, you expect the worst but hope for the best. All of a sudden, it is not about how long you are going to live, its more about how much fun and fulfillment you can have working on your bucket list! In my case, 10 years is pure hope but I'm having fun on that bucket list!
Good points; Valerie Harper example too (Score:2)
http://articles.latimes.com/20... [latimes.com]
"Valerie Harper, best known for playing Rhoda Morgenstern on the beloved 1970s sitcoms "The Mary Tyler Moore Show" and "Rhoda," has revealed she has terminal brain cancer. The actress, who also starred for two years on the '80s sitcom, "Valerie," told People magazine, "I don't think of dying. I think of being here now."
Need more options around 50 years (Score:4, Interesting)
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I'm already over 50. I might live another 50, but more likely not. 25 more years would have me nearing 80, and that seems realistic for me.
Last generation to die (Score:4, Interesting)
I expect to live just long enough to be told "we can not extend life and health substantially, possibly indefinitely, but not for anyone already as old as you"
Or maybe not. Given that I expect it will take 20 years from the big breakthrough to a practical treatment and I'm already 46, I should be seeing signs already that the research is getting close.
Healthy bodies for sale (Score:1)
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But what rich and probably white old person is going to want to run around in a dirty brown peasant body?
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I expect to live just long enough to be told "we can extend life and health substantially, possibly indefinitely, but not for anyone as poor as you"
Fixed that for you.
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So you entered "Another year or less", right?
These "Quizzes" Record your Information (Score:1)
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yes yes, between choices like forever and a year... i am sure they are gleaning the snarkiness of /. with each quiz.
I'm not dead (Score:3)
My life isn't conventional. (Score:2)
Life is an illusion (Score:2)
Caused mainly by high quality tea. Coffee drinkers are thus entirely a figment of the imagination.
Longevity vaccine (Score:2)
--CEO Nwabudike Morgan, Morganlink 3D-Vision Interview
Eeh (Score:2)
I think the guesstimates that some sort of immortality might be within our reach within 3-5 decades are overly optimistic. I'm also fairly pessimistic that they'd be available to eve
I'm a dude who knows Jesus is real. (Score:2)
25 years (Score:2)
My Dad was 68 when he died. My Mom was 75. I'm 53 now. If I significantly outlive either of them I will be surprised.
...laura
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I don't know much about my father's side of the family, but on my mom's side, one aunt passed just before 90, and the other is still alive at 95. Mom's "only" 80, but still going strong and kicking butt. I figure somewhere in the 80's is a good guess. I'm 54 now.
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Why would that surprise? Statistically you should outlive them.
Futurama (Score:2)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]
I will love as long as the universe will exist (Score:3)
Any evidence to the contrary is spurious. I think therefore I exist. I can't observe anyone else thinking, therefore they do not exist.
At least my 80s (Score:2)
People make a good point - relative intervals don't tell us much. I'm in my late thirties and picked fifty years - I have the genes for longevity, I think (though not Lazarus Long style), since three of four grandparents lived to their late 80s and one great grandparent even made it to 99.
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Nah -- one thing about polls, you can just vote and trawl, if you'd like -- pretty usual ;) (Look at the number of votes vs. number of comments; votes always wins.)
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It's a silly poll as it's dependent on both age AND lifespan expectations. Ultimately it reveals very little.
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shocking! a slashdot poll that reveals little!
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It's a silly poll as it's dependent on both age AND lifespan expectations. Ultimately it reveals very little.
Except those that answer "1 year" and to a lesser extent "~10 years". To them, you have both my sincere condolences and my urgent plea to get off of Slashdot and enjoy your life without us trolls fucking up your day.
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Not to mention that there are options for "a year or less" and "until about ten years from now". Kind of jarring for those of us statistically unlikely to survive another ten years -- does this mean we only have a year to live?
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After a long squawk.
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Or ... pining for the fjords
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We're pining for the Fjords!
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We're pining for the Fjords!
Fjords? No thanks. I'm a Chjevy man.
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Would you consider the removal of his still living head into a life support jar to be "dead"? If not, you're in for a long wait.
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Each day I wake up further supports my theory that I'll live forever.
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" and lots of antioxidants "
increasing antioxidants above what the body needs increases the chance of getting cancer.
http://www.skepticalraptor.com... [skepticalraptor.com]
http://www.quackwatch.com/03He... [quackwatch.com]
The initial reason doe the belief that anti oxidants help with cancer(prostate) and the follow up studies :
http://jama.jamanetwork.com/ar... [jamanetwork.com]
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Evidence for the supernatural is present, both in historical records and events witnessed by those who are looking for evidence today. If you choose to believe neither the recorded history nor to seek out current events that might illuminate truth, I'm sorry for you. At the youth convention last week, one of the kids at the church was healed of a knee problem that had been plaguing her for years. No more abnormal movement and clicking when squatting down and now able to run without problems.
God exists. His