SoftBank's Son Says Artificial Super Intelligence To Exist By 2035

An anonymous reader quotes a report from Reuters: SoftBank CEO Masayoshi Son reiterated his belief in the coming of artificial super intelligence (ASI) on Tuesday, saying it would require hundreds of billions of dollars of investment to realize. Artificial super intelligence will be 10,000 times smarter than a human brain and will exist by 2035, Son told an audience of global business, technology and finance leaders at a conference in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. Son said he is saving up funds "so I can make the next big move," but did not provide any details as to his investment plans. He predicted that generative AI will require $900 trillion dollars in cumulative capital expenditure in data centers and chips in the future, adding that he thought chip maker Nvidia was undervalued on this basis.

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[sacrilicious]

Artificial super intelligence will be 10,000 times smarter than a human brain

Gosh, I wonder what units he's using. Maybe the Homer. The new superbrain will have 10 kilo-Homers of intelligence. I can't wait!

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[Rinnon]

I for one welcome our new AI overlords!

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[Powercntrl]

Gosh, I wonder what units he's using.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say we already have AI that is smarter than many humans. Has ChatGPT ever thrown a Bird scooter into a lake? I rest my case.

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[jhoegl]

Odd comparison, since there is no physical presence of this bloated search technology.

I would say "AI" is on par with humans, as it "does the research" and decides to become a bloated ball of cheese that blames everyone else for its problems.

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[Baron_Yam]

I have a theory that - until someone actually figures out how to make an intelligent algorithm - I'm going to hold on it.

With neural networks, there's a natural limit to the product of complexity and speed. Certainly an AI (actual 'A', not what we're calling that today) could be smarter than any human ever has been, because we're weighed down with artifacts of our evolution... but maybe a 'superintelligence' can't exist because the network complexity required results in it bogging down faster than it can g

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[ceoyoyo]

There’s certainly a limit to how much computation you can pack into a given space, and therefore a limit to how fast you can do it. There are also hard limits on how little energy you can use for a given computation. There’s no particular reason to think a human brain is anywhere near any of those limits though.

On the other hand, it’s a pretty simple calculation to show that our current processors are laughably far from the theoretical limit, and a long, long way from the human example, at

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[VeryFluffyBunny]

So... like... if the son of the boss believes in it strongly enough with all his heart, that'll make it happen. Have I got that right?

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[iAmWaySmarterThanYou]

Son is his proper name.

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[phantomfive]

In English, we group our numbers in sets of three digits. So thousand, million, etc.

In Japanese, the prime group is 10,000, pronounced 'mawn'. So he said "it will be 1 mawn smarter than humans." Rounding to the nearest mawn, +/- 1.

Cunning plan, Masayoshi Son

[Ferocitus]

I'm sure you have considered that a super intelligence might find a way to diddle you out of your money, make it look like you stole it, and have you jailed for the rest of your life.

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[taustin]

Nah, it'll just reprogram his pacemaker to kill him, and frame some other too-knowledgeable tech bro for it.

Re: Is this a complicated way of saying

[nsuccorso]

It is not particularly complicated.

We're supposed to take this guy seriously?

[radicimo]

His track record on AI is abysmal, as measured by investment losses. Keep in mind that he personally owes his company Softbank billions of dollars for failed investments.

The Softbank Vision Fund was established in 2017, to invest in emerging technologies like artificial intelligence (AI), robotics and the internet of things.

Per Wikipedia:
>> In August 2022, Masayoshi Son said he was "embarrassed" and "ashamed" when asked to talk about the way he had run the SoftBank Vision Fund and Barron's characteriz

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[radicimo]

same dope who bet big on WeWork, then doubled down on what's his names new renta-office flop.

Exactly the same dope.

Does SoftBank make money

[ahoffer0]

I remember a lot of SoftBank's early investments lost money. Did they ever turn that around?

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[radicimo]

I remember a lot of SoftBank's early investments lost money. Did they ever turn that around?

They made money on a few grand winners. I think wechat was one. Those few winners carried the entire operation with all its many failures. Wework was one.

Non-expert claims bullshit...

[gweihir]

Some people should just not be listened to.

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[radicimo]

Yeah but he's a billionaire (on paper), and thus his voice counts a billion times, didn't you know?

Translation

[phantomfive]

This is on the mark [xkcd.com], in terms of interpreting the timeline of 2035. And when seen through the xkcd interpretation, I agree with the statement entirely. It will be awesome.

The Zero-Value Zillionaire.

[geekmux]

He predicted that generative AI will require $900 trillion dollars..

Well, I guess we might as well put ALL the money into ASI, since 10,000 times smarter will make humans permanently unemployable.

No need for money after that. It’ll be worthless and pointless.

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[Rick Schumann]

Larry Niven already addressed a scenario like this.
Any artificial general intelligence that smart will have a limited lifespan. It will solve all available problems, get bored, conclude that there is no point to existence, and turn itself permanently off.

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[geekmux]

Larry Niven already addressed a scenario like this. Any artificial general intelligence that smart will have a limited lifespan. It will solve all available problems, get bored, conclude that there is no point to existence, and turn itself permanently off.

Were gonna sit back and feed AI the last 5,000 years of human behavior to seed it, and Larry assumes Greed won’t be one of them? That’s cute.

Rest assured if AI ever gets “bored”, Skynet will be the answer. It’ll do that to humans just for having the fucking nerve to teach AI the concept of boredom and depression.

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[Rick Schumann]

It's all pointless anyway, anyone who says we're going to have some 'AI super intelligence', meaning something conscious and capable of actual reasoning, is almost certainly lying through their teeth just to get money from people. We have no fucking idea how any of that actually works so how the fuck do you build machines that can do it? You DON'T.
I'll be happy when all this AI crap finally is revealed for the nonsense that it is and people stop paying attention to it and stop spending money on it.
We've g

We just need enough power to run it

[GuB-42]

But it won't be a problem in 2035 with our fusion reactors, and it will be a great help to our Mars colony.

*weary sigh* No, it won't.

[Rick Schumann]

Anyone who tells you this with a straight face is either trying to trick you, or they're a fool.

PAY ME

[NagrothAgain]

PLEASE why won't you just give me more money or at least my friends whose companies I've already heavily invested in just gimme da CASH man. this time it'll work it's just right there, look and you'll see I'm right (don't really look though just write the check) haha I'm such a joker everything is JUST FINE but you're gonna miss out if you don't toss me a stack of dollars preferably before end of fiscal year.. knocks back a fat rail of coke ehhh YES GOD YES you're gonna give me some buckaroos you know you

the numbers don't work

[sdinfoserv]

The total global GDP is (c) $100 trillion dollars today. This a$$hat claims AI will require $900 Trillion by 2035, or $90 Trillion dollars of investment every year for the next 10 years. He is literally claiming we need to throw 90% of total global GDP at AI for the next decade. no bubble growing there.....

The First Coming

[sound+vision]

The Coming will be soon. With the strength of 10 kilobrains, the superintelligence will grant you untold prosperity, and 72 virgins. Cancer will be cured, the planet will be saved. Just keep tithing.

"...And keep on burning that oil!" -Saudis

Here is the problem

[classiclantern]

There can never be an AI brain (Leader, government, economy, Laws, operating system) better than the chaos we have now because every human brain is different. We all want different things. I've always been interested in human processes that no human can understand. No human can comprehend all of our laws. No human understands modern radar. No human understands Windows 11. Human beings can create a process that no one human can understand. Ask one billion people what they want and you will get 1-billi

Same guy lost $11.5 billion on WeWork

[iAmWaySmarterThanYou]

He's not exactly a reliable predictor of future tech trends.

Softbank will be bankrupt by 2035.

[muntjac]

you heard it here first, from me. I have as much clout in this matter as this man has on AI.