Iran Demands Bitcoin For Ships Passing Hormuz During Ceasefire (ft.com) 221
An anonymous reader quotes a report from the Financial Times: Iran will demand that shipping companies pay tolls in cryptocurrency for laden oil tankers passing through the Strait of Hormuz (source paywalled; alternative source), as it seeks to retain control over passage through the key waterway during the two-week ceasefire. Hamid Hosseini, a spokesperson for Iran's Oil, Gas and Petrochemical Products Exporters' Union, told the FT on Wednesday that Iran wanted to collect tolling fees from any tanker passing and to assess each ship.
"Iran needs to monitor what goes in and out of the strait to ensure these two weeks aren't used for transferring weapons," said Hosseini, whose industry association works closely with the state. "Everything can pass through, but the procedure will take time for each vessel, and Iran is not in a rush," he added. [...] Hosseini said that each tanker must email authorities about its cargo, after which Iran will inform them of the toll to be paid in digital currencies.
He said that the tariff is $1 per barrel of oil, adding that empty tankers can pass freely. "Once the email arrives and Iran completes its assessment, vessels are given a few seconds to pay in Bitcoin, ensuring they can't be traced or confiscated due to sanctions," Hosseini added.
"Iran needs to monitor what goes in and out of the strait to ensure these two weeks aren't used for transferring weapons," said Hosseini, whose industry association works closely with the state. "Everything can pass through, but the procedure will take time for each vessel, and Iran is not in a rush," he added. [...] Hosseini said that each tanker must email authorities about its cargo, after which Iran will inform them of the toll to be paid in digital currencies.
He said that the tariff is $1 per barrel of oil, adding that empty tankers can pass freely. "Once the email arrives and Iran completes its assessment, vessels are given a few seconds to pay in Bitcoin, ensuring they can't be traced or confiscated due to sanctions," Hosseini added.
"...a few seconds to pay in Bitcoin" (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:"...a few seconds to pay in Bitcoin" (Score:5, Interesting)
There's the Lightning Network now, which if you believe the Bitcoin bros, is like a turbocharger for Bitcoin. The reality is, it adds some additional potential failure points, risks, and inconveniences, since now you're basically trading Bitcoin on a separate blockchain, where the transactions are ultimately consolidated and then committed to the main Bitcoin blockchain.
Really, at that point, you should just be using a different cryptocurrency anyway, but you know the old saying about the market remaining irrational...
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I've been very fond of the "actual money" currency. Its got a much less "fiat" backing than cryptocurrencies, doesnt involve any expensive proof of works and is reliably handled by almost all brokerages.
And you can buy pizza with it. Hell, keep it in paper form, its even anonymous.
Re: "...a few seconds to pay in Bitcoin" (Score:2)
I've bought pizza with Bitcoin. Don't see the benefit there of whatever it is you think normal currency is.
Re: "...a few seconds to pay in Bitcoin" (Score:3)
Its all just Bitcoins. Lightning works by essentially generating a Bitcoin transaction then sending that transaction to both parties. Then either party can publish the plain Bitcoin transaction whenever they want. This will finalize all payments and essentially close the channel. But everything's still Bitcoin.
There are some downsides to LN, but not being Bitcoin is not one of them.
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If course he is. Bitcoin may take a while to be committed to the chain, but that doesn't mean you can't have an exchange in a friendly country guarantee the exchange while the technical issues resolve themselves in the background.
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Pakistan?
Re: "...a few seconds to pay in Bitcoin" (Score:2)
Anyone who doesn't want their ship blown up by Iran when it starts transiting and Iran discovers the transaction didn't go through.
Re: "...a few seconds to pay in Bitcoin" (Score:2)
Russia? China? I don't understand why you'd think this would be such a gotcha.
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Who's the friendly country in this scenario? Please be *specific*.
You're joking right? You realise the news today is about Iran complaining that the USA has attacked an ally of theirs right? They have friends... ironically it appears they may have more friends than the USA.
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Re: "...a few seconds to pay in Bitcoin" (Score:3)
Interest bearing loans are haram. Cryptocurrency fits very well into Islamic banking.
Re: "...a few seconds to pay in Bitcoin" (Score:2)
That's exactly how it works. It takes about 5 seconds for a transaction to show up. Now, depending on the security requirements and value involved, you probably want to wait 30-60 mins for confirmations from miners. But the reality is that initial transaction you see in a few moments is more of a guarantee you will receive the money than a bank telling you they moved the money already.
Re: "...a few seconds to pay in Bitcoin" (Score:2)
Hahahahaha.
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Man, people are still trying to hawk Lightning because they crippled bitcoin with the 1MB blocksize cap?
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Technically it's true, though there are significant disadvantages to using LN. Especially if you're Iran.
Re: "...a few seconds to pay in Bitcoin" (Score:2)
Bitcoin would be crippled without the cap by the block chain being too big for almost anyone to run a Bitcoin node but a few big players who could then hack the network.
The limit adds tons of long term security to the protocol.
Re: "...a few seconds to pay in Bitcoin" (Score:2)
You can't use LN without first setting up a channel. And setting up a channel is just like a normal Bitcoin layer 1 transaction. So, unless you have an established financial relationship with the recipient, LN doesn't help you here.
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So what? You think the ship's crew are the ones paying the toll? That's done by an office somewhere in another country. The ship isn't doing any transaction here.
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Sorry (Score:2, Funny)
All I have are trump shitcoins
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What does their Allah say about Monkey Jpegs ?
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Hmm. I wonder if this is a chance to offload my NFTs.
Sorry, those are barrels of oil, not monkeys.
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Hmm. I wonder if this is a chance to offload my NFTs.
Maybe they'll take these [collecttrumpcards.com]? /snark
Re: Sorry (Score:2)
As long as that monkey isn't intended to be Muhammad, the vast majority of Islam has zero problem with it.
Switching to TumpCoins (Score:2)
All I have are trump shitcoins
Good. Because by the end of negotiations there will be a switch to TumpCoins.
Bitcoin is a throw away demand ... (Score:3)
All I have are trump shitcoins
I am thinking that if Iran was a bit smarter, they would have required payment in the TRUMP coin (for how could DJT object to that?)
In Trump style negotiations, you always enter negotiations with things you are willing to concede on. Throw aways to trade for something you really want. Bitcoin is likely just one such throwaway. Like switching from Bitcoin to TumpCoin to "legitimize" the concept of being able to collect a fee in the first place, which seems to be a defacto violation of the laws regarding international waters.
That said, you know the f'n reason the USA created a standing Navy 250 years ago was so it would not have to pay
Trump likes that idea... for himself (Score:2)
and with echoes of the Mexico border wall:
https://www.aljazeera.com/news... [aljazeera.com]
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and with echoes of the Mexico border wall:
https://www.aljazeera.com/news... [aljazeera.com]
So... Trump muses about the U.S. imposing passage fees/tolls on a foreign body of water, totally unconnected to the U.S., and Arab countries reimbursing the U.S. for a war he started on a whim (apparently talked [nytimes.com] into it by Benjamin Netanyahu, who's had a 47-year hard-on for this). Also, continues to misunderstand "winning". Classic Trump.
Re:Trump likes that idea... for himself (Score:5, Insightful)
The Israelis build a nice presentation that tells Trump he'll be the world savior if he attacks Iran, and that success is guaranteed. The US army generals disagree, but Bibi Netanyahu worked at BCG, a top consulting firm, and there's no way his folks aren't convincing. Trump buys it and thinks it'll also stop people from talking about him being a pedo, so launches missiles. A few weeks in he realizes it's not working out, victory is taking time, and the narrative is changing (aka the stock market is crumbling, which is one of the few things he cares about). He asks his team to fix it, and so negotiations start. Negotiations aren't going well, but he's pushing his team of sycophants to do something while posting on social media how this is a beautiful war, some say it's the most beautiful, and Iran will pay and be destroyed and also Allahu Akbar. His team manages to have a draft of a beginning of an understanding with Iran, so immediately that's announced via the official governmental channel that is Truth Social (also called Pravda by the USSR). In the meantime the peace plan has barely any shape and is not in any way advantageous to the US, but there's a whole room of sycophants telling Trump "we're winning". Cue Trump's announcement that the First Epstein War is over.
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That's pretty much exactly what the NYT article, which was probably leaked by Vance, describes in detail.
NYT referring to wrong 10-point list and authors (Score:2)
... a war he started on a whim
Not really. US special envoy Steve Witkoff reported that during negotiations the Iranians claimed to have 1000 pounds of enriched uranium that could be further enriched to produce 11 nuclear bombs. A bluff or not, it is product to assume it true.
... apparently (nytimes) talked into it by Benjamin Netanyahu,
Not really. The Vice President recently pointed out there are numerous 10-point lists from numerous factions. And the one the NYT refers to is one rejected and originating from the Revolutionary Guard. Its not what the current cease fire and talks are based on.
Pyrrhic Victory (Score:5, Insightful)
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It’s a success because he says so and then Fox repeats it. Cult followers hear the gospel and it’s fact.
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It’s a success because he says so and then Fox repeats it. Cult followers hear the gospel and it’s fact.
They love the taste of Kool-Aid in the morning ...
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That's about right (Score:5, Informative)
On the bright side, the dipshit also badly damaged his coalition.
But yes, Stumpy: - spent upwards of 12 digits on war porn without any plan,
- got badly outplayed by Iran on one side, Israel on the other, and China playing adult in the room,
- destroyed the Freedom of Navigation the world depends on for trade the US used to guarantee,
- spit in the face of our allies, yet again,
- demonstrated to the world that the US cannot be trusted to keep commitments,
- turned the most active Iranian protests against the regime in decades into very public demonstrations [independent.co.uk] defending it.
Oh - and we're not done. Iran says the ceasefire isn't on yet, because US/Israel is violating several of the provisions, and the Strait is not, in fact, open.
This is that fucking idiot failure Don Trump's gift for Americans.
Re:Pyrrhic Victory (Score:4, Insightful)
If you ignore the messaging, and pay attention to what's actually happening, you would know that the US is gearing up for a limited land war. This is nothing secret It's been covered on all the major news channels. But, it's second-run news that doesn't get the top billing, because it doesn't get as many likes and clicks as the will-he-won't-he reality show stuff you get from the Trump admin.
The smart people knew that Russia was gonna invade Ukraine, months before it happened. There was a ton of public info about it, but very few people paid attention because it's not intertaining stuff. Same thing is happening here. There's gonna be a limited land war in Iran, at the very least. It's gonna take a LONG time. And, when it happens, three quarters of the world are gonna make a surprised-pikachu-face.
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He's running his messaging strategy like a reality show. It's designed to keep people off balance, uncertain, distracted and misinformed. It's designed to encourage you to "tune in" a few hours later.
I think you give him too much credit. I don't think his "messaging strategy" has any design, nor is it a strategy. It's just Trump saying whatever shit bubbles to the top of what sometimes passes for a mind. And it's random and changes every four hours because he's random and changes what he believes every four hours. Or every four minutes.
I don't think he even "learned" to act like a reality show... I think this is just who he is and who he always has been, albeit with an added layer of growing demen
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That's always the claim.
It is rooted in the "madman" theory, and it isn't complete bunk, but vastly overrated. Acting like (or being) a crazy asshole is its own form of predictability.
And in Piggy's case, it is a cope masquerading as a boast. When he can't bully, the dipshit just has nothing else. He's strategic about nothing except protecting his fragile ego.
So he does utterly stupid things like attacking Iran while claiming
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No surprise at all. It's his usual M.O. Create a crisis, go back with nothing accomplished, claim victory for ending the crisis.
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Who wasn't thinking yesterday would be TACO Tuesday? Today market goes crazy, like, OMG we were "THIS CLOSE". Is NYSE a slapstick number now?
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I don't have a non-paywalled version of the article unfortunately, but this article by Robert A Pape is interesting and basically argues that Iran has been positioned to ascend to a fourth global power (alongside America, China and Russia) solely based on how they've played their hand and their dominance of that one strait. https://www.nytimes.com/2026/0... [nytimes.com]
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So let me get this straight (pun intended) -- we spent billions of dollars bombing Iran. They still are able to block the Strait and are now charging a tax that didn't exist before, to pay to repair things we bombed. Trump says there's "Complete and Total regime change," but the leader of Iran is still named the Ayatollah Khamenei. I'm not sure how any measure shows the US campaign was a success. On the contrary, it is likely a pyrrhic Victory that will embolden Iran, strengthen their Islamist regime and defiance, and fracture US alliances like NATO. What exactly was accomplished here? The end result seems like we're now giving Iran money and allowing them to dominate the Strait officially.
Don't forget that Iran still has their stockpile of uranium and enriched uranium, and some unknown quantity of drones and ballistic missiles (and can build more). And Trump suspended sanctions on Iranian (and Russian) oil sales, to soften U.S. fuel prices. I get the feeling that, despite all his talk, Trump doesn't really understand the word, "winning". But, hey, the U.S. blew up a *bunch* of stuff and used/wasted a large portion of our super expensive Tomahawk missiles and other ordinances, burned thro
Re:Pyrrhic Victory (Score:5, Insightful)
The former leader of Iran was 86 years old, in failing health, and facing increasing internal opposition despite repeated crackdowns. By killing him, the US turned him into a martyr, not just for hardcore loyalists in Iran, but for many others across the entire Middle East. And his replacement not only has political, ideological, and religious motivation, but: the US made it personal.
Thanks to incompetent drunk Pete Hegseth, the US bombed a school and killed a lot of little girls. That won't be forgotten for a long, long time. Not only has it enraged much of the population, but it undercut the opposition movement by providing fresh evidence that the US isn't and has never been on the side of the Iranian people.
The parade of unhinged threats from Trump has been an absolute gift to Iran's strategic and tactical military planners. if the ceasefire holds for a while, they can use the time to bolster defenses in at least some of the right places, because Trump gave them a target list. Politically, it nicely demonstrates to everyone -- including US allies -- that Trump is a psychotic moron who cannot be trusted. I think at this point that if he decides to pull the US out of NATO, they might offer to hold the door open for him. He is quite clearly demented AND insane: it's obvious on inspection.
There's a reason Iran wants to be paid in cryptocurrency, aka fake money for criminals. Do you know which country really REALLY wants cryptocurrency, lots of it? Which country has knocked itself out running numerous large-scale operations to get it? North Korea. That's the reason: Iran no doubt already has a deal in place for weapons, and the North Koreans are happy to supply them because they've very interested in finding out how those weapons perform in live combat against the US military.
Bottom line: the US lost in every possible way, and provided a textbook counterexample to the principles expounded in The Art of War.
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The former leader of Iran was 86 years old, in failing health, and facing increasing internal opposition despite repeated crackdowns. By killing him, the US turned him into a martyr, not just for hardcore loyalists in Iran, but for many others across the entire Middle East. And his replacement not only has political, ideological, and religious motivation, but: the US made it personal.
Assuming Mojtaba is not a vegetable he lacks religious credentials, has no charisma and hereditary ascension cuts against a core tenant of the Islamic revolution. What having him in place makes bare to Iranians is the IRGC is running the country as a mafia state and he is its puppet.
Thanks to incompetent drunk Pete Hegseth, the US bombed a school and killed a lot of little girls. That won't be forgotten for a long, long time. Not only has it enraged much of the population, but it undercut the opposition movement by providing fresh evidence that the US isn't and has never been on the side of the Iranian people.
More Iranians are enraged over the prospect of being abandoned as bombs stop falling. Iranians supporting attacks against the regime were well aware of the fact there would be collateral damage. There were never any safe opti
Yeah the radicals are cool with bombs dropping (Score:3)
On top of that Trump has done numerous stupid things guaranteed to undermine any opposition of the Iranian regime. Go look up YouTuber Belle of the
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Just like when 9/11 happened in America I can tell you right now that every single regular Iranian person is going to rally around the government and the military. Doesn't matter how terrible the government and the military are when your country is attacked you rally round them.
Do you actually know any Iranians?
The majority of them hate the regime and want it to fall, but the loudest voice online is the regime because not only do they commit a lot of resources to spreading propaganda around the world, they also suppress the voices of ordinary people so it's more difficult for them to speak out.
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In the medium to long term the main outcome of this war will be accelerating the move away from US based currency and payment systems. Lots of alternatives to Mastercard and Visa already have some momentum, and trading oil is moving away from USD.
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There has been regime change. The old supreme leader was killed. The new one was thought to be too extreme by the old one, but that was before his mother, father, wife, child and a bunch of other family members were killed by the US and Israel. Much the same experience as a bunch of other young Iranians who might have been leaning towards the whole US = the great satan thing being a bit of hypoerbole.
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The big story that Western media is missing here is Iran's proxies, and their effect on Israeli security.
Iran's proxies are effective. I watched the Joe Kent [x.com] interview with Shawn Ryan, and they admitted that Iran's proxies had killed a lot of Americans in Iraq. What is well known in Israel I'm sure, but what they've been very poor at conveying in the Western media is that they were being hit from the south by the Houthis (Shia), from the west by Hamas (Sunni) and from the
Don't worry (Score:2)
These cryptocurrency payments can't be used to fund terror and evade sanctions since all the transactions are public on the blockchain! Also, would anyone like to buy a bridge?
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Also, would anyone like to buy a bridge?
Nope. Trump will just blow it up. :-)
Article with broken paywall... (Score:2)
The paywall on the article is broken, with "undefined" in place of the price in every instance on the text. I'm not on a VPN or doing any crazy monkeying with the site. Just Firefox on Android with uBlock Origin, connecting direct over my home Wi-Fi.
Almost seems appropriate to get a tollbooth on an article about an Iranian tollbooth.
Re: Article with broken paywall... (Score:2)
Yes, I saw the alternative link. No need to point it out to me. Still find the broken main site exemplifies many issues with the Internet today.
will they take ez-pass? (Score:2)
will they take ez-pass?
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So sorry to disappoint you, but it appears that he is not only profoundly and immeasurably stupid, but also his cowardice matches his stupidity.
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So sorry to disappoint you, but it appears that he is not only profoundly and immeasurably stupid, but also his cowardice matches his stupidity.
I didn't see the OP, so you'll have to be more specific with this Administration. :-)
I am glad Trump is a coward. (Score:5, Insightful)
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It sure doesn’t take much for the pointy hat to appear.
Your sig is so ironic it hurts.
Re:Done. (Score:4, Insightful)
Stay in school, kids.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
Women make up a majority of University students in Iran. There's a hell of a lot of things to criticize about Iran, but you're laser focused on one thing that simply is bullshit.
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2) That's the whole point. Iran shows that you can do damage cheaply, and very expensive to defend against, even against an enemy with far superior firepower.
3) It was before, and like Hamas, it is so deeply rooted in society that you have to kill the population, e.g. commit genocide to get it out.
Why should China and North Korea come out in support? Do they gain
Re:Done. (Score:5, Insightful)
3) It was before, and like Hamas, it is so deeply rooted in society that you have to kill the population, e.g. commit genocide to get it out.
Or Israel could stop regularly provoking such groups so the long healing process could actually begin. That's probably a long shot though unless we force them by threatening their aid but I don't see either political party doing that despite them avidly committing war crimes.
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but i do consider the Islamic Republic, North Korea, Putin, to be "bad" in terms of being a menace in their neighborhoods
That's your error in a nutshell.
Yes, they are bad, and I don't want to live in any of the countries. But lumping them together and consider them a monolithic block marching in sync is such a misjudgment of reality, that it is exactly that simplistic world view I am referring to. If the police chases a suspected killer, do you expect the thief to come out in support of the killer, just because both are bad? No, the thief does not care if the police catches the killer or not. He will seize the opportunity w
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Oil prices rise, and what's the U.S. answer to that? Li
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It's a two week cease fire. Anything could happen after that.
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There's no way it makes it two weeks.
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TrumpIdidThis.jpg
TrumpIdidThis.jpg [google.com]
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TrumpIdidThis.jpg
Every time I go to a Wawa for a sandwich or something, I keep forgetting to check for Trump's ugly mug on the gas pumps. Kind of just don't pay much attention to them anymore, seeing as how my car doesn't use gas.
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Been coal-rolled by any big diesel Bubba trucks lately?
Nope. That's actually one of the funny things about the Bolt. Most people just assume that it's just another ICE compact hatchback (like the Honda Fit it looks nearly identical to) and pay it no mind, even if they despise EVs. My car not looking like a political statement is actually something I consider a huge plus.
Re: Haha (Score:2)
Some guy did that to me, so I made my way in front of him and spent the next 20 minutes enraging the guy by keeping him trapped in slow traffic.
Good times.
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Re:They still want tolls? They'll get bombs, inste (Score:5, Insightful)
"The only question in my mind is if Kamala would have started dropping the bombs sooner or later."
Sure it is. Maybe Trump will improve your talking points later.
"Kamala was all "Yea! War!" so maybe she'd have not done it?"
Citations please.
"One is to start/continue wars behind an orange retard. The other is to start/continue wars behind some brown bitch-retard."
Sure, both sides. Super original. Which "retard" worships Putin? I mean, besides you.
"Kinda finding it hard to see any real difference"
Sounds like a you problem. And how did Kamala Harris become part of the conversation? We all know, of course.
"Do you want those announcements from some dumb bitch you would not let operate a can-opener by herself or some angry ancient orangutan-looking asshole who you'd bet against putting his pants on by himself?"
Not being a raging misogynist like you are, the choice is clear. I prefer not to have a 34-time felon, rapist and child molester threatening genocide of nearly 100M people as my President, we know what you prefer.
"Great choices, partisans. Lovely situation you've both-sides'd us into."
Wait, who's doing the both-sidesing? You have us mistaken for those "retards" you are so familiar with.
Being a woman put Kamala in a tough spot (Score:2)
To counteract that women who run for president, and this goes for both Kamala and Hillary as well as the various women who ran in the primary, all have to do a bunch of saber rattling to show how tough they are to those voters.
The problem is that saber rattling inevitably backfires and a bunch of youn
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Every time she opened her mouth to make a point, nonsense came out. She just exuded "incapable". Trump did too, but never pretended otherwise.
She'd been pummeled in the primaries, and got a political version of "get out of jail free" card being put on the ticket as a token for Biden, and then when Bide
Hillary and Kamela had Jeb and Mitt's personality (Score:2)
A sizable percentage of likely Democrat voters are worried that a woman would get bullied in international negotiations by male world leaders. This is of course a silly thing to think but they think it. To counteract that women who run for president, and this goes for both Kamala and Hillary as well as the various women who ran in the primary, all have to do a bunch of saber rattling to show how tough they are to those voters. The problem is that saber rattling inevitably backfires and a bunch of young men see it and get spooked that the woman in question is going to drag us into a war with a draft. There's an old saying about war, don't give your opponents problems give them dilemmas. What I described above is a dilemma. There's no actual right answer or good solution. If you skip the saber rattling you lose the voters who think you aren't going to be able to negotiate and if you do the saber rattling you lose the voters who think you're going to draft them off to die in the Middle East. The Republican party has a lot of these kind of dilemmas and they can usually solve them with overwhelming propaganda and dog whistles because they have a much larger media apparatus and a lot more money. Those aren't options for the Democratic party. Because of all this under the current system it's basically impossible for a woman to become president. I think if they completely eliminated voter suppression then they could win but that's going to be a multi-generational effort. This is what Jasmine Crockett meant when she said the Democrats are going to nominate the safest white boy they can find. They aren't in a position where they can risk running a woman again. We've got 20 or 30 years of civil rights organization and voting rights organization before that can happen...
Hillary and Kamela sucked, end of story, just like Jeb and Mitt. People love Trump. No one loves Kamela or Hillary. You'll be hard pressed to find a voter who gives a fuck about them now that they're not running. People love Bernie. People love Obama. People love Trump. People who voted for Mitt, Jeb, Hillary, and Kamela preferred them over the competition, but didn't love them. People still care what Obama thinks. Who the fuck cares about anything that comes out of Hillary/Kamela/Mitt/Jeb's mouth
Re:They still want tolls? They'll get bombs, inste (Score:5, Informative)
Another "Say one word that could even be interpreted as not support Ukraine and I'll accuse you of Putin worship." guy. Yeah, great logic, moron. Everyone at ... is a "Putin worshiper". Very rational and well thought out...
Oh give it a rest Spirals. You are not merely opposed to war you actively support Russia and regurgitate every bit of false Russian propaganda there is while demonstrating guttural hatred of Ukraine like any good self respecting vatnik.
"Now, those women they sent away for safe keeping better learn to clean house and pole dance at speed, because daddy isn't coming home. He got blown up in a proxy war back home. Bad decisions to prolong wars have consequences (and so do foreign warmongers interfering, like you are advocating for). Ukrainian women are going to finish paying the price on strip club runway that Ukrainian men already have paid with their lives. "
"Fuck those beggars. They definitely provoked it with their shelling in Donbas and elsewhere after repeated warnings from Russia to stop."
"When Ukraine loses and capitulates to Russia they will never get back their lost territory. They probably shouldn't have been shelling Russians in Donbas and Luhansk and they'd never had the trouble with Russia in the first place."
"BTW, Ukraine is losing badly and this whole idiotic debate is about to end when we properly stop supporting this proxy war and war mongering BS"
"There was no 2014 coup? There was no shelling in Donbas before the war? There was no threat of joining NATO? Russia just invaded because they coveted Ukraine?"
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We wouldn't accuse you of saying anything. By all accounts you can't because you don't seem to ever take Putin's dick from your mouth.
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If the Democrats still ran the show, there'd still be the new and used EV credits at least.
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Let's see, what's worse:
1. Having an EV which doesn't require gas, and paying for the jacked up cost of groceries and other goods because of pass-through fuel surcharges.
or
2. Paying for the jacked up cost of gas for your car, and also still having to pay for the jacked up cost of groceries and other goods because of pass-through fuel surcharges.
Hmm, that's a tough one. /s
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Let's see, what's worse:
1. Having an EV ....
Fake Straw Man. No one said anything against EVs.
What was said is that fossil fuels are what delivers food to your local supermarket, and pretty much any other store and even deliveries to your home. So owning an EV does not mean one is immune from higher fossil fuel costs. Which leads to higher costs for nearly all consider goods. So that EV rebate gets wiped out by bad energy policy.
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I took advantage of the EV rebate when it was still a thing and I don't have to buy gas, so my exposure to this suckfest is only the portion of pass-through costs associated with high fuel prices. I absolutely don't consider the benefit of owning a EV negated, because if I still had my ICE car, I'd be buying $4.30/gal gas on top of the increased costs of everything else.
So, from where I sit, the tax credit was a net benefit, and getting rid of it means that the Republicans screwed over anyone who looks at
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if I still had my ICE car, I'd be buying $4.30/gal gas on top of the increased costs of everything else.
You need to re-read. The question above is not "what if I still had my ICE car". The question above is "If the Democrats still ran the show". The point made was that current EV buyers have a net win without the EV rebate due to better energy policy which lowers the costs of everything fossil fuel delivered.
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Yes, folks, he's literally to ignorant to know that diesel has a higher energy content than gasoline, so vehicles travel farther on a gallon of diesel than they do on a gallon of gasoline. That being said, the current different in price ($1.30/gallon more for diesel) greatly exceeds the difference is efficiency.
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... dependent upon fossil fuels...
Yes, folks, he's literally to ignorant to know that diesel has a higher energy content than gasoline
LOL. Both diesel and gasoline are fossil fuels
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Republicans still don't believe Trump's policies cause inflation, do they?
(You know Biden actually had inflation under control by the end of his term, a problem he inherited from a combination of inheriting Trump's economy and the COVID supply chain problems, right? And he did that while maintaining full employment, which is unheard of. Meanwhile, while general inflation isn't significantly better or worse right now, tariffs and support for the AI industry and the unnecessary wars against two OPEC members h
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Biden didn't release them in 4 years, what makes you think Kamala would have?
If they were as damaging to Trump as people claim, surely Biden could have released them before the election?
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She didn't have four years to do it, she wasn't even President.
And at that point the wheels of justice were going, just... slowly. There was no reason for Biden to speed up the process either. It was assumed that there would, ultimately, be trials and convictions.
Having the name that appears most, save for Epstein himself, in the Trump-Epstein files become President, coupled with the people he put in charge, including Pam Bondi who was AG during a suspicious period in Epstein's life, and given Epstein died
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"War is good for business"
This news appears to have slightly pumped the value of Bitcoin a bit since yesterday. Says a lot about the moral character of people trading crypto, when they hear that they may be able to profit from the world going to shit.
Perfect definition of the crypto bros.
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Says a lot about the moral character of people trading crypto, when they hear that they may be able to profit from the world going to shit.
This is how literally all major markets work.