You presume without evidence computer + software + data cannot embody consciousness. Then you complete the circular argument by asserting computer + software + data != computer + software + data + consciousness.

The only thing that has crashed here is basic logic.

What is the point of labeling something an automaton?

How do you know consciousness requires nondeterminism? What is the basis for this assertion?

What is the point of saying something can only be detected if it is detectable?

That's an understatement.

This is self sealing gibberish.

I'm asking what the relevance of determinism is WRT consciousness arguments and you are saying the issue itself is irrelevant? WTF is up with this crap?

The solution to phishing is SAS + secure authentication (e.g. ZKP)

What passes for security on the Internet (cleartext password transmission over "secure" channels) is the reason phishing is the worlds number one security threat. The worlds users have been trained to accept insanely dangerous behavior as normal.

What is especially pathetic many of the "MFA" schemes employed today are not even resistant to verifier impersonation.

I've never implemented a system like this where throttling would be based on anything other than login.

Throttling requests means if someone knows your username and has sufficient access to attempt login then yes they absolutely can keep you from logging in. Doing otherwise is insecure. If denial of service is a problem guard usernames.

As Tablizer mentioned there should be single purpose authenticators isolated from app servers for handling user authentication. It is unrealistic to expect passwords to contain required entropy to survive an offline brute force campaign regardless of algorithm or amplification scheme.

When you get around to answering the question why determinism is even relevant please do let me know.

I have several.

1. WHY are you PRESUMING consciousness **REQUIRES** nondeterminism?

2. If one presumes for the sake of argument consciousness requires nondeterminism so what? Lots of nondeterministic things "influence physical reality". Who cares? How is your statement at all responsive to my question? What capabilities does something that is conscious have that something which is not conscious does not? Why can't you answer the question?

What is the objective basis for the assertion consciousness requires nondeterminism?

Can consciousness be detected? Is there an objective test for its presence of absence?

What is the point of these arguments?

All you have done was seeded a PRNG with a known value to make it deterministic. The system could be driven by a real nondeterministic random number generator derived by real thermal noise. What difference does it make? This is a pointless implementation detail that isn't relevant to anything.

Why is "determinism" relevant?

Are there capabilities something that is conscious has that something that isn't doesn't? If so care to enumerate them?

What difference does it make whether a system is deterministic or not? What does this have to do with its capabilities?

This is one of the most craziest of non-sequiturs I've heard all week.

No worries, 18F is on the case.

Opposition has only increased.

I guess this is a feature of cognitive dissonance where people have such a need to protect their world view they begin to wholesale reject entire domains for irrelevant reasons. Kind of the f*** you and your little dog too response. As if the little dog had anything to do with anything.

This is what you are doing now with an inability to separate Trump being a an amoral dumbass with present day reality. If Trump is doing something or takes some position it it must be bad. Any analysis or research never gets past that point. Anything to do with Iran also suffers from the Gaza / Israeli issue which causes leftists to blow a gasket. And so you end up with people like yourself buying the idiotic talking points of oppressors and mass murders because they can't keep their cognitive dissonance in check.

Regime opposition is not being generated from outside Iran, it already boiled over and reached a critical mass inside of the country in late December before the bloody massacres and subsequent US attacks. Everyone who matters (RP,DT,BB,CENTCOM...etc) have stated the obvious recommending people hold off for a safer time. Meanwhile people are organizing and getting shit together.

It was just a suggestion. My intention was trying to be helpful and point out new possibilities you may have not previously considered.

When you support Russia's war of conquest against Ukraine you are doing something else entirely.

If you support Russia move there and join the SMO. They will give you citizenship and a signing bonus of several million rubbles.