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All of Humane's AI Pins Will Stop Working in 10 Days 64

AI hardware startup Humane -- which has been acquired by HP -- has given its users just ten days notice that their Pins will be disconnected. From a report: In a note to its customers, the company said AI Pins will "continue to function normally" until 12PM PT on February 28. On that date, users will lose access to essentially all of their device's features, including but not limited to calling, messaging, AI queries and cloud access. The FAQ does note that you'll still be able to check on your battery life, though.

Humane is encouraging its users to download any stored data before February 28, as it plans on permanently deleting "all remaining customer data" at the same time as switching its servers off.
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All of Humane's AI Pins Will Stop Working in 10 Days

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  • I opened the link to see how many people are getting fucked. I am surprised they sold as many as they did.

    Did any of you buy one of these? Why? AC replies will be read on this one.

    • by dmay34 ( 6770232 )

      They had 10,000 "orders".

      I bet they shipped far fewer. I bet they didn't even ship a baker's dozen.

    • by Njovich ( 553857 )

      So HP paid 116 million dollars for Humane and they couldn't be bothered to spend a couple million more on refunding the buyers for their paperweight - oh sorry, I mean battery tester?

      Hope they get sued.

    • by Potor ( 658520 )
      I have no idea what this product is. I know I could google it, but I think I helped to answer your question.
    • by necro81 ( 917438 ) on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @12:56PM (#65179409) Journal
      I'd wager many of those orders didn't result in sales to end users. Of those that did, I'd wager a lot of them were returned - it sounded like a real shit product.

      Of the genuine sales, I'd wager that probably half of them were gadget reviewers, all of whom used it briefly, panned it [youtube.com], then tossed it in a drawer.

      Of true consumer customers, how many found enough utility in this device to still be using it today? In short, I'm sure there are very few actual, active users of this product at this point. It sucks for them, certainly, but they probably number fewer than 1000.
    • by aitikin ( 909209 )

      "A fool and his money are soon parted..."

  • They'll stop working in 10 days... did they ever work to begin with?

    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      by GrahamJ ( 241784 )

      In the sense that silence is probably better than a hallucinated answer I think they will actually work better now.

  • by Rinnon ( 1474161 ) on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @12:57PM (#65179417)
    Just imagine, it used to be fun to be an early adopter! At the very least, you didn't have to feel like you were gambling on whether or not a new product would be a success, because even if it wasn't at least you got to keep it for it's (still reasonable) life expectancy. These days, if something doesn't take off (in this case because it was a trashy product), even those who DID like don't get to keep using it because it'll just get deactivated. So my question is: Why would anyone want to be an early adopter anymore? Unless you're just looking for a reason to burn through some cash, it seems way smarter to wait and see if a product is going to survive it's own launch before biting.
    • This is not a new thing son, it was never fun, you're just slow to realize it.

      Early tech adoption has been separating fools from their money for at least 30 years...
      • by GrahamJ ( 241784 )

        Sure it’s fun, while it lasts. Like op says some things do last; you go into the deal knowing it’s only a matter of time before the new shiny comes out, and that’s fine. But it’s not fine if that time is cut short through no fault of your own, and even moreso if it’s expensive.

        Sometimes buyers should have seen the warning signs and stayed away and this was clearly one of those times. The value prop was just not there and everything about it screamed risk. New company with new t

        • not fine if that time is cut short through no fault of your own...

          Buying an untested and unproven product from a startup - guarantees the fault is 100% yours.

    • by havana9 ( 101033 )
      It was always like this, especially if a product needed consumables to work. Remember the Philips Video 2000, and DCC, the Sony Elcaset and Betamax or Kodak disc cameras?
      The difference is that in those case you had some grace period and could sometime still find today some NOS stuff and not an abrupt stop. Now it's becoming harder and harder to find 135 format film, blank compact cassettes or VHS tapes too, so now the difference is small.
      • The Kodak disc camera was hilarious.

        They made a camera that cost 4x as much as the cheap 110mm cameras that had saturated the low end market and used film that cost around 5x as much per photo, but the negative was 10x8mm which made it hugely inferior to the 110mm cameras.

        The only real selling point is "it looks cool."

      • by wwphx ( 225607 )
        "Harder to find 135 format film"? I've got a dozen fresh boxes, I shoot both digital and film - 35mm and 6x7. Easy to get from good camera stores, lots of places process it and scan it. There's some really cool motion picture stock being turned into shootable 35mm.
    • Being an early adopter was always a risk. There have always been products that did not materialize, or turned out to be crap, or that stopped working shortly after launch. It's just so much easier to reach a lot of people now, and the critical thinking abilities of entire nations is at an all time low, making for easy pickings.

      I've backed a few projects, and I've been happy with them. I did not blindly back "this looks great!" projects, though. I did some research. I gauged the complexity compared to the pr

      • by ukoda ( 537183 )
        I have backed many kick starters and they have had a good record, but like you if I see the words AI or Cloud I steer clear of them. If you see AI in a kick starter it usually means an Internet connection to ChatGPT. I already have those, they are call phones and PCs. If you see Cloud then you are not buying a product, you are renting it for an unspecified amount of time. In the case of the AI Pins that time was laughably short.

        Pretty sure I saw the kick starter for the AI Pin and though "Isn't that
    • by nightflameauto ( 6607976 ) on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @02:17PM (#65179629)

      Just imagine, it used to be fun to be an early adopter! At the very least, you didn't have to feel like you were gambling on whether or not a new product would be a success, because even if it wasn't at least you got to keep it for it's (still reasonable) life expectancy. These days, if something doesn't take off (in this case because it was a trashy product), even those who DID like don't get to keep using it because it'll just get deactivated. So my question is: Why would anyone want to be an early adopter anymore? Unless you're just looking for a reason to burn through some cash, it seems way smarter to wait and see if a product is going to survive it's own launch before biting.

      Do not buy "needs a connection all the time" products. Especially in the early adopter stage. Gilfoyle was right. It truly is "Internet of Shit."

    • So my question is: Why would anyone want to be an early adopter anymore?

      Because it does not matter anymore. Whether you are an early or late adopter, if it relies on "the cloud" it is effectively disposable in either case.

    • >So my question is: Why would anyone want to be an early adopter anymore?

      Youtube views. Remember how many people bought the Apple VR headset, and then returned it :)

    • by Tablizer ( 95088 )

      Such is for rich people who want bragging rights. If it bellies up, it's pennies to them.

      Thank You plutocrats for being the guinea pigs for we plebeians! We'll reward you with yet more tax breaks and dereg!

    • by wwphx ( 225607 )
      Even if you bought a Microsoft Phone, it still worked as a phone after MS stopped making them. Maybe you didn't have an app store, I don't know how people worked around that.
    • It still is fun to be an early adopter. There was never a guarantee something would turn into a usable product. There was never a guarantee it would work forever, and even today those types of new developments still exist.

      Unless you're just looking for a reason to burn through some cash, it seems way smarter to wait and see if a product is going to survive it's own launch before biting.

      That has always been the case throughout all history. With a comment like that I don't think you understood the concept of being an early adopter.

  • by KalvinB ( 205500 ) on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @01:01PM (#65179429) Homepage

    as if 2 voices cried out in terror and then were silenced.

  • by MpVpRb ( 1423381 ) on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @01:19PM (#65179471)

    Run away!

  • All these classist schemes are doomed but the 'creators' live in an affluence fueled fantasy and they're protected from the consequences of their actions because they rely on other people's money. Not to even mention how these despotic top down transnational corporations are not only above the law, now they own the law. This is what plutocracies look like. There's no going back either. I predict the economy will become even more predatory and unable to produce ethical products or ethical services.

    • Only if we keep spending money to support it. Unplug the feeding tube, and the machine dies.
      • by 2TecTom ( 311314 )

        sadly, all the complicit people are in charge, they make our decisions for us and they will keep the machine running since it keeps them in power and living in the lap of luxury while the rest of us slave away in debt, that's just how classism rolls

  • by smooth wombat ( 796938 ) on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @01:41PM (#65179517) Journal

    12 PM is not a time. It is either 12 noon or 12 midnight. Also, what time zone? Eastern? Pacific? Central Mongolia?

    Not that I have one of these, but if you're going to give people a deadline, at least be accurate about it.

    • For some reason, it is convention that 12pm is noon, and 12am is midnight. I guess it all depends on how you define "post" and "ante."

      Which time zone, haha, that's for you to guess.

      • Er, currently the post says "PT" so presumably the time is PST.

      • For some reason, it is convention that 12pm is noon, and 12am is midnight. I guess it all depends on how you define "post" and "ante."

        Which time zone, haha, that's for you to guess.

        12PM is noon because 12:01PM is clearly shortly after noon. Put another way, the AM/PM "digit" changes at the same time as the lesser significant hours digit changes. -dk

      • On a 24-hour clock there is only one 12, at noon, and midnight is 00:00. Morning is AM and evening is PM. So does 12 noon end the morning or begin the evening? Well all the hours on that 24-hour clock from 13:00 to 23:59 are obviously PM, and if the clock is balanced there should be 12 PM hours, so 12 noon and its hour from 12:00 to 12:59 add in to make a clean 12-hour sequence that is exactly half a day. Similarly, even though we call it 12 instead of 00, the 12 hours from midnight 00:00 through 11:59
    • Does it really matter, though? Most people probably gave up in frustration on these devices months ago, and most of them are just sitting in a desk drawer with a dead battery collecting dust.

      There will always be a few hardcore hobbyists who will try to make these things work without a cloud connection, so maybe they'll have some luck unloading them on eBay as "For parts, not working" for a few dollars.

    • "12 PM is not a time. It is either 12 noon or 12 midnight."

      While I agree that 12 PM is vague with some ambiguity and 12 noon is more precise and is to be preferred to avoid confusion, it is generally accepted that "12 PM" is 12 noon, as one minute afterwards is indisputably 12:01 PM. Arguing otherwise is just being intentionally obtuse.

      "Also, what time zone? Eastern? Pacific? Central Mongolia?"

      Right in the summary it says "PT", i.e. Pacific Time. Pacific Standard Time can be safely inferred, as the US is

    • 12 PM is not a time.

      Yes it is. 12PM universally means 12 noon. The timezone issue is real but since time starts at the 00 minute market 11:59:59AM is the final second before the time switch to PM. There is some ambiguity at midnight where 11:59:59PM may not be the final PM second, but that only happens when we add leap seconds and doesn't change the fact that 12:00AM is midnight.

      But I understand where the confusion may come from. While all clocks have always agreed 12:00pm was midday. The US Government reporting office didn't

    • It is either 12 noon or 12 midnight.

      Or more simply noon or midnight, neither of which ever occurs at any hour other than 12.

  • But AI is super intelligent and told me this would work!

  • by fortfive ( 1582005 ) on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @01:49PM (#65179555)

    Most will agree the product is pointless. What IP could it contain to make it worth so much?

    Or has the elite takeover gone so far that this just how the exorbitantly wealthy 'fund' their kids, getting their buddy to buy them out for insane money.

  • HP can afford to refund all the users.

    These things happen - it would only be unconscionable if they were to screw over the users.

    Not that HP has any history of class action lawsuits or anything.

    They should probably read "The HP Way" before it's too late.

    • They could, but why should they? Nothing in it for them. Despite the price, they are basically buying this at junk prices. I think that they are mostly buying staff because they want to put AI features in their printers and make them even more annoying than they already are. The joke is on them though, because most the ones who actually know anything will probably bail immediately anyway.
    • by Gilmoure ( 18428 )

      Maybe HP can offer them a subscription service so that HP doesn't throw bricks at their houses?

  • Not that they should shut down the service, whatever. But they should be releasing enough keys or whatever that you can use it for something else, with your own server or someone else's.

    • by ukoda ( 537183 )
      That would make sense if there was a lot of them still in active use. However in this case I think it would be cheaper for HP to simply pay a full refund to anyone who asks and whose details matches an active user profile. Actually users should be able to ask for the refund using the AI Pin itself.
  • after Feb 28th.
    Man, I will be the coolest guy in the office, showing off my battery meter feature to everyone.

  • Not that this is any surprise. But the morons that bought these are priceless.

  • Are the once proud, honest HP trying to redeem themselves?

    Oh no, they're being cunts again.

    Don't buy HP, don't let your friends buy HP, don't let your boss buy HP.

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