Microsoft's Edge Browser Now Generally Available For iOS, Android (zdnet.com) 140
An anonymous reader shares a report: Microsoft announced in October previews of new Edge browser apps for iOS and Android. On November 30, Microsoft officials are announcing that these apps are no longer in preview and are generally available for users in select markets. By making Edge apps available on non-Windows operating systems, Microsoft is hoping to do more than give Windows 10 users who use Edge a more convenient way to sync their bookmarks, tabs, etc., across devices. Microsoft also is doing this to improve its "Continue on PC" feature that it's been touting for Windows 10. With "Continue on PC," users will be able to share a web site, app, photo, and other information from their phones to their Windows 10 PCs in a faster and more seamless way. Microsoft is looking to Continue on PC to help keep Windows PCs relevant in a world where more and more computing is done on mobile devices.
Fuck off M$!!! (Score:3, Funny)
I could also smear turds all over my phone. No thanks, Micro$hit.
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Why would we want it? (Score:5, Funny)
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> What are the problems with Edge, exactly other than issues that one might have with the maker of it?
Not that I'm suggesting that's not a good enough reason for someone who is negatively predisposed towards Microsoft to be opposed to its use, but I'm wondering if there are actual qualitatively measurable factors involved, or if this perspective only arises on account of a subjective bias against the company
Re:Why would we want it? (Score:5, Insightful)
having a terrible track record of making secure designs, let alone secure implementations, and then often languishing efforts on fixes. All of that is a security nightmare.
So it’s right at home on 99% of Android phones then?
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So I explicitly ask for the issue of how untrustworthy Microsoft might be perceived to be to the issue of not wanting to use Edge and all you give are reasons that are based only on the company and its history, not Edge itself.
You even go so far as to suggest that my remarks about having such predisposition are probably good enough to have such a bias should be discounted as non-sequitur while showing that to be exactly the reason that you are so inclined.
If you use one web browser and it's good enough
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Hello, not the original poster, but I am a web developer.
MS made it a core mission to break web standards being set up. This resulted in me and others having to write all sorts of silly work around code just for when someone would visit the site with IE. It was a nightmare, MS owes me serveral thousand dollars of man hours spent because of their shennanigans.
Microsoft will not be forgiven anytime soon for that shit. It was rough on all of us and it caused cracks and breaks in what was becoming the first
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Your comment addresses Microsoft, IE, and MS's past behavior.... but does not even *attempt* to address any inadequacies that one might find with Edge. It's fair to avoid someone or something if they've been untrustworthy in the past, but that was not the point of my question. I was asking what's wrong with Edge, specifically, that makes it objectively inferior to alternatives... and nobody who has responded to me, including yourself, has done that... everyone is too busy spending their comment ranting
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Yes, actually... that is actually a very good reason to avoid it on those platforms. Although unless one is using those platforms, I am skeptical that is the reason they would want to avoid it.
There very well could be other technical reasons that Edge is inferior to other browsers, but I find it interesting that many people are too focused on hating on Microsoft to even pay attention to even try and figure out what those reasons might be. My objection is against the lack of objectivity that such commen
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Perhaps you missed the preface immediately before the text that you quoted:
But more to the point:
Given the known benefits of open source, an argument could be made that's actually a good reason too.
Anyways, My objection to the so-called mindless
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I was upset that people are dumping on Edge because of grievances against Microsoft when I explicitly mentioned right from the very beginning that I wanted to exclude such biases from consideration.
Call me pedantic, but when I ask a question about XYZ stating at the very beginning that I already know about ABC and want a list of any other issues, and everybody that initially responds only gives me more of ABC, I can get a little ornery about the matter.
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False analogy. Edge is created by Microsoft, not the other way around. Your metaphor for my initial question seems to effectively liken Hitler to Edge and the Holocaust to Microsoft, which is like saying that the Holocaust caused Hitler.
Assuming that you meant it the other way around, the Holocaust was bad regardless of who initiated it, and there are plenty of bad things that Hitler did anyways... these are all quite obvious.
Edge is something happening *today*. And as the saying goes, even a broke
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I have no idea, since I've never used it. It also doesn't matter. It could be the most fantastic browser in the history of browsers, but the fact that it comes from Microsoft means that it can't be trusted.
Edge is Windows exclusive (Score:2)
On desktop, Edge is exclusive to Windows.
My laptop runs Debian 9 "Stretch". Compared to the Firefox ESR that I currently use or the Chromium that I use for a few sites that don't run well in Firefox ESR (such as Discordapp.com), Edge would cost more, as I'd have to buy a Windows license, and it would use a lot more RAM, as I'd have to run Windows in a virtual machine.
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Thank god that features no one asked for and are probably broken out of the box anyway have finally arrived.
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A few months before someone has an exploit? You are very optimistic. How about weeks or days?
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"Hey Firefox and Chrome, maybe get better and stop using up all my damn memory or I'm going to start using Microsoft again! Stop laughing, I'm serious! It's already on my computer, it would be so easy!
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Hate to break it to you but Edge on Android is essentially a skin of Chrome with a Microsoft interface.
I personally have no problems with Firefox and with extensions (uBlock) primarily has been my default browser.
In other news... (Score:3)
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Thing is on iOS they don't allow other rendering engines for browsers. You have safari and webview jammed in a container labeled firefox or edge or whatever as your options.
Not to mention webview is slower than safari and doesn't support content blockers (unless they are build in to the app). I don't know why these keep getting released, but I expect it's just to claim market share.
It's close enough (Score:2)
EdgeHTML aims for compatibility with WebKit anyway so it might as well just use WebKit.
'Microsoft has stated that "any Edge-WebKit differences are bugs that we’re interested in fixing."'
https://blogs.windows.com/msed... [windows.com]
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The deprecated UIWebView is slower but WKWebView uses the same Nitro javascript engine as Safari.
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Why don't you quit trolling [slashdot.org] this story, AC.
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Sorry, I don't work for Mozilla but I do know that a proper software complaint should include some specifics like what version you're using, on what hardware, what site(s) you see this problem. If all you're going to do is whine without providing any evidence then you're just trolling as far as I'm concerned.
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I have been using FF Beta on Android since it's been available. No issues here.
I don't think I've ever used Chrome on Android. Google already tracks all the apps I use, I don't need them tracking my web browsing history, too.
Why FF is my favorite Android browser (Score:2)
I don't know their motive, but from a user point of view, the reason FireFox is the best mainstream browser for Android, is that it can run all the usual extensions (except for some recent API changes). So there's no ads and a lot of the slow-down-your-computer-by-running-lots-of-weird-javascript goes away.
That said, the API change has been a little rough and I've lost a few other non ad/privacy related extensions that I like, but maybe they'll
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Yeah right.
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I find FF on Android slow too.
Maybe it because it needs to contact DoubleClick first:
https://reports.exodus-privacy... [eu.org]
Adblock (Score:2)
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Why bother when you have Bing ads? :P
Lack of extensions cripples Edge from the start (Score:2)
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Did you bother looking at the extensions? LastPast, uBlock, pocket....a bunch of other stuff that people use I guess.....They have all the stuff people actually care about and keep the hakz0r crap out of the store.
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For subjective definitiions of "all devices", I suppose.
Where I work, all the developer workstations are Unix-based desktops (usually Linux, but some FreeBSD).
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He meant “all devices that matter.”
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Yeah, I know what he meant.
The ones "that matter" is what is subjective.
M$ +5 Insightful (Score:1)
I didn't RTFS after "MICRO$HIT" because everything they do is bad and wrong, now mod me up for my insightfulness.
uhmm..... yeah.... (Score:1)
The Stampede Begins! (Score:1)
Take My Money Now Microsoft!!!! (Score:2)
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I use Edge for logging onto Facebook. That is to say, I hardly ever use Edge. But sticking my vestigial Facebook account on Edge quarantines the whole mess off on an obscure area of my PC.
Is that a warning or advertisement? (Score:2)
Remember, Microsoft browsers are the number one browsers used to download other browsers.
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Downloading other browsers is the only thing they're useful for.
Great news! (Score:4, Funny)
That's like announcing popcorn that causes ungovernable episodes of explosive diarrhea will be available at all your local supermarkets.
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Well, it wouldn't be the first time [wikipedia.org] such a product was so easily found.
Really? (Score:4, Insightful)
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Microsoft has done so many terrible things in the 1990s and 2000s that they deserve at least twenty years more of MS bashing. You are probably too young to have lived through that hellish period.
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Gotta love all the "No Micro$hit stuff on my phone" crowd. None of them mentioned any problems with the browser itself, but let's bash Microsoft because we are in neckbeardia (Slashdot) and therefore it's the cool thing to do.
It's not cool. It's the least that MS deserves, after decades of abuse and obnoxiousness.
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one word.....uBlock Origin....its there, its fully supported.
Re: Really? (Score:2)
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let's bash Microsoft because we are in neckbeardia (Slashdot) and therefore it's the cool thing to do.
It's not that it's "the cool thing to do". It's that the history of abuse coming from Microsoft is so long and bad that avoidance is the only rational stance to take.
If someone punches you every time you see them, it's not remotely irrational to expect that the next time you see them, they're going to punch you.
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It gets better with every 6 month release. the Fall Creators Update was almost usable! :)
I think the main problem is the release cycle. Few are interested in the Insider program and to gain any traction they need more regular updates. Whereas Firefox and Chrome users see an update every 6 weeks.
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There's this really cool new browser that has both of those features on Android, you should try it. It's got kind of a funny name though, I don't know if it'll ever get popular. It's called "Firefox".
Thanks, MS (Score:2)
Awesome! (Score:2)
Screw that (Score:2)
I want IE 6 on my Android .
It would help my massochism porn fetish great perfect right there in bed
Crack open the sparkling wine (Score:2)
No Thanks (Score:2)
Edge still isn't as functional (or stable) as either Firefox nor Chrome on the Desktop, although it does have a few interesting ideas/implementations.
On Android I already have Firefox Nightly (some addons available), Firefox Focus (built-in ad & tracker blocking), Chrome Canary and Chrome.
It's well worth your time to install at least one additional browser, so that Android will give you a choice of how to open a given external URI every time.
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How is it unstable?
I use it every day on my Windows 10 device and have no issues at all.
Also, Edge on iPhone and Android is just a wraper of features around the native HTML/JS engines on the devices.
ok I guess.... (Score:2)
If you're using Edge, this is good news.
But, why are you using Edge?
Windows 10 S (Score:2)
why are you using Edge?
I personally am not. But the following applies to another class of users:
Windows 10 S blocks installation of applications from outside the Windows Store. The Windows Store Policies ban web browsers other than EdgeHTML wrappers. Therefore, for a user of a PC that came with Windows 10 S, installing another browser costs $50 for the upgrade from Windows 10 S to Windows 10 Pro.
Is the iOS version still just a front end (Score:2)
Who in their right mind (Score:1)
I just have one question... (Score:2)
Why?
Yay! (Score:1)