Specs For the New KITT 195
An anonymous reader writes "The upcoming made-for-TV Knight Rider movie features an all-new version of the Knight Industries Two Thousand (KITT). Popular Mechanics has the 'specs' for the original Hasslehoff-mobile, as well as for the digital-effects enhanced version in the 2008 production. 'Designer Harald Belker, who has created the Batmobile for Batman and Robin and a next-gen space shuttle for Armageddon, came onboard to give the new KITT. a unique look. "The goal was to make it look more aggressive without being hokey or garish," Belker says.'"
Unoriginal made-for-TV movies... (Score:2)
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So? They had talking computers in Star Trek before that.
Possibly because it's not the universal man/machine interface panacea that the uneducated think it is.
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Not the same. Do you remember Short Circuit? Here's a little quote:
"You have to talk computer to him."
*hand raised in the air* "How robot. Me- friend."
"I said speak computer, not Apache." (Note: She means the Indian language, NOT the webserver!)
People still had to know how to speak to the computer. KITT, on the other hand, interacted as if he were human. He was aware of the situation and all of the context surrounding it and inteacted according
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It's specs for a fictional super-car! How is that not news for nerds?
Uninteresting? Perhaps. Non-nerd-news? Uh, no. This has a chick repellent factor of 9.
I'm confused? (Score:4, Funny)
Nothing, nothing at all....there's even a song! (Score:2)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykSzwYQV6PU [youtube.com]
or heck, even if you can't pick up the ladies, you can certainly get them to um...."suck up".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wn3-O17f4tg [youtube.com]
Tell me that's not awesome.
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Science Fiction vs outright fantasy (Score:5, Insightful)
Assuming constant acceleration (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Assuming constant acceleration (Score:5, Informative)
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OOps forogt a factor 2 (Score:2)
Re:OOps forogt a factor 2 (Score:4, Informative)
I was going to debunk you by quoting John Stapp [wikipedia.org] but found what I wanted at David Purley [wikipedia.org]
He survived 179 gravities.
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Then again, in Automan, I always just expected somewhere deep in my twisted childhood psyche to see the door open on some soup pour out on the group.
"Otto! What did you do?!"
Re:Assuming constant acceleration (Score:4, Insightful)
Assuming constant deceleration, you'd average 150 mph over the 12 feet. Do the calculation [google.com]: 250 g.
Another way to think about it: if you were to run that car into a solid wall at 300mph, the front might crumple 6 feet. Going from 300mph to 0 in 12 feet is about half as severe as just driving into a wall.
Or a little worse than driving straight into a wall at 200mph. Whee.
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SAVTU Equations (Score:2)
For any constant acceleration problem, one can calculate all of the following values if three of them are known:
S=distance (or displacement)
A=acceleration
V=final velocity
T=time
U=initial velocity
S: V=U+(A*T)/2
A: S=((U+V)/2)*T
V: S=U*T+(A*T^2)/2
T: V^2=U^2+2*A*S
U: S=V*T-(A*T^2)/2
Each equation is listed by which variable it does not use. So, for the KITT problem, we know V. We kno
It's possible - using a very thick concrete wall.. (Score:2)
I was hoping anyone with better physics knowledge than I would be able to calculate the impact energy. To take almost 2 tonnes of steel down from 300 mph to 0 in about 12 feet (apparently calculated as a deceleration of about 250g) means you have to get rid of a godawful amount of kinetic energy in a very short time. Hell, that's not even going to look good on FILM.. W
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Sigh.
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The car can drive itself; if there are no passengers and the car can withstand 470g, then what's the problem with braking that fast? No doubt the car brakes slower with passengers so as not to kill them.
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Yeah who am I kidding... They are gonna ignore it... It would be an interesting theft counter measure though. Bad guy stills KITT. Gets it up to 300mph. Kitt jams on the breaks. Mushy bad guy.
MG
Bad guy steals kitt. (Score:2)
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Actually... The original KITT had something called the Passive Laser Restraint System. That phrase would appear on the monitor whenever KITT went into Super Pursuit Mode. It was supposed to imply something like an intertial dampner. If you get bored, type Passive Laser Restraint into Wikipedia. (Although it won't tell you much more than I just said.)
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Fantasy (Score:2)
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You also need to ask yourself whether those extra air-foils at the back are really necessary and not simply extra drag. I don't know, but the new KITT makes me
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Surely, you're kidding.
Mazda [mazdausa.com] is owned by Ford [ford.com].
Then again, so is Jaguar, Land Rover, and Volvo.
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http://homepage.mac.com/atomicshark/08-CAMARO-FR-ATOMICSHARK.jpg [mac.com]
http://homepage.mac.com/atomicshark/08-CAMARO-BK-ATOMICSHARK.jpg [mac.com]
btw Mazda is American. and even if not would you expect Germany to not use a Porsche/Beemer?
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That Car... (Score:2, Insightful)
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It looks like a butcher job pimp-my-ride ricer toyota.
Lack of elegance (Score:3, Insightful)
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Impossible Tech (Score:5, Insightful)
For the love of all things Holy, can we please stop making shows with impossible (or at least highly improbable) technology? KITT was really fun in the 80's, primarily because of a misconception about AI. It was felt at the time by the public (and to a lesser degree by actual AI researchers) that the only thing holding a computer back from sentience was enough computing power. 20+ years of research has since disavowed us of that notion.
Otherwise the original show was reasonably good about keeping the tech on the level. KITT was powered by Gas Turbines (good!), had laser weaponry (okay), was capable of computer graphics (actually, that's almost amusingly primitive at this point), and had an ultra-strong "Molecular Bonded Shell". (Unlikely, but at least within the realm of possibility.)
The show tried doing the "ridiculous tech-thing of the week" when they brought on the April character, but that didn't go over all that well. Eventually they dropped it and got back to showing solutions that didn't involve Deus-Ex Machina plot devices.
While I understand the need for suspending disbelieve, I just can't help but think that it would make a more enjoyable show if they simply tried to ground and enhance what was already presented in the original show. Updated with modern communications technology, satellite data, reconnaissance methods (could you see KITT launching UAVs?
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Since most computers these days are eminently hackable internet connected windows boxes, I reckon the can hack almost any system bit is feasible.
Certainly more so than it was 20 years ago.
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While I understand the need for suspending disbelieve, I just can't help but think that it would make a more enjoyable show if they simply tried to ground and enhance what was already presented in the original show. Updated with modern communications technology, satellite data, reconnaissance methods (could you see KITT launching UAVs? :P), eves dropping tech, weapons technology, and computer control, KITT could be pretty damn cool without crossing the line into unbelievable territory. Which would, of course, force the writers to write rather than relying on the gadget of the moment. ;-)
I think they tried that... Team Knight Rider [wikipedia.org] perhaps. I only watched a couple of episodes but I seem to remember automobiles that could morph into cycles or some nonsense. It only lasted a season.
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Otherwise the original show was reasonably good about keeping the tech on the level. KITT was powered by Gas Turbines (good!), had laser weaponry (okay), was capable of computer graphics (actually, that's almost amusingly primitive at this point), and had an ultra-strong "Molecular Bonded Shell". (Unlikely, but at least within the realm of possibility.)
Yeah - it was especially believable how KITT could control other cars and electronics by sending commands to them through the ether.
Viper anyone? (Score:2)
The TV show Viper did it 10 years ago: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtJLlQYs1rY [youtube.com]. In some ways it was better than Knight Rider, but not without it's own rediculous technologies. Transformer style "morphing", EMP guns, harpoon cables fired from little gun pods on the sides able to suspend a musclecar without breaking etc. But no 0-60 in 0.2 seconds, and no talking car. Which is a bit of a shame, KITT was always the best part of Knight Rider IMO.
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Atleast pick an original car... (Score:2)
Now we get a remake of Knight Rider, and they pick the same car.
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My guess is that the rights for the new Knight Rider were bought by Ford so it had to be a current production model car. It's sad, I really like the old Pontiac Trans-Am. It lent a air of 80's cool, like the
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Must be boatload... (Score:3, Informative)
Anyway, in the 90s, also, Ford essentially bought out Knight Rider anyway (after my consultation with Wikipedia). In 1997, a show called Team Knight Rider made a brief appearance with a whole set of Ford vehicles.
After the 1991 flop (which GM was still involved with), the 1997 flop, you'd think Ford/NBC would be able to guess that 10 ye
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Maybe I'm just a little bitter 'cause I'm not a fan of the new Mustang, but it's appearance didn't seem necessary in the film at all.
How long will it take... (Score:3, Funny)
KITT is a Cylon! (Score:2)
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http://www.pvponline.com/2007/01/24/turbo-boost/ [pvponline.com]
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Ok, my bad, I clicked the link but I was extremely puzzled for a few minutes trying to figure out why someone named the site Galactic Abbs dot com... the page was clearly dedicated to Battlestar Galactica and I was imagining some fan with a fixation on sexy (male?) abdominal muscles of actors on the show.
It was a creepy minute or two, half afraid of what answers I might find on the front page of the site.
And on that note, here are a couple (current and former) genuine website addresses:
Who [whorepresents.com]
Terrible Choice of Base Car (Score:2)
A modern Corvette [chevrolet.com] would make so much more sense. Of course there are cooler, more exotic choices, but I think to be most consistent with the original series, it should be a GM car that's relatively common. And the Corvette has a similar body style to the 80's Trans Am.
What makes most sense.. (Score:2)
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Well then, it this case it was Ford.
Years ago I read that Ford has a majority stake in the 3rd largest marketing firm in the country (but I can never remember the name of it), which explains why Mustangs appear in everything. Is there any other explanation why a performance car based on a platform that debuted in 1978 could survive the next 26 years on its own merits? (Yes, I know the 1994 Mustang was "all new", which structurally amounted to a new roofline, increased length and width, and crossmembers a
No! You are all wrong! It should be BMW! M3! (Score:2)
No no no! No Corvette! No Mustang! Those are just all-american-lazy-fat-ass-comes-with-soda-cup-holder excuses for a car. No! Trans-Am was a real car! You need a real bad ass car for Knight Rider! And when you want bad ass car the only choice is black BMW M3, CLS preferably. And you know what... you need a real man to drive that car, you need David Hasselhoff to play the part of Michael Knight not some lame excuse for a man.
Actually I'm little disappointed that they haven't recruited Hasselhoff to do the m
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(This post is off to a bad start)
* Domino from Team Knight rider was a Mustang
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* The car in Knight Rider 2010 was a Mustang
So it's not like there isn't a history of the franchise using Mustangs...
Not garish at all... (Score:2)
A Mustang? awwww... (Score:5, Funny)
1980s marketing memories (Score:2)
1. Before Knightrider came on the air they advertised a 800 number you could call to get the specs of the KITT compared to the Dukes of Hazzard General Lee. Even as a pre-teen I thought it was rather stupid to promote a fictional car as being superior to another semi-fictional car.
2. This used 5 years down the road as a creative use for 800 numbers.
But I regret not picking up copies of the this advert... it would have likely been e-bay able when Hasslehoff's popularity was tops in Ge
"without being hokey or garish" (Score:2)
Sucks (Score:2)
The "Pimp my Ride" guys do better.
New car for what? (Score:2)
The rest was just fine, just have the
All aboard the failboat (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:All aboard the failboat (Score:4, Interesting)
My knee-jerk reaction is to say the designer should be fired, but according to the article it is admitted this was "because of the Ford connection" and apparently the designer was specifically ordered to use this model car and that "Maintaining as much of [this model] as possible was important". Whoever handed down the order to shoehorn this model car in as KITT needs to be fired. But no... he probably got a big cash bonus instead for bringing in big bucks from Ford Marketing to turn this onto a MOVIE-LENGTH-COMMERCIAL for the Next New Product. This goes beyond even the most grotesque level of product placement. This is one big two hour hypefomercial.
P.S.
According to Google I appear to have coined a new word.
Hypefomercial: noun. Etymology: hype+infomercial.
A television program that is an extended advertisement designed to manufacture "coolness" and social buzz for a product, in contrast to infomercials which are usually built around product discussion and demonstration.
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Huzzah! to your wordsmithery, sir. If I should happen to remember that word, I have a feeling I'll have enough use for it to become annoying. hypefomercial.
Thats just horrid (Score:2)
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Oh god, those dumb wheels. (Score:2)
What's with those super-thin tires with the rims an inch and a half from the tarmac? --I strongly suspect those things were designed to fail above legal driving speeds. I saw one of those dumb O.J. type car chases caught on camera and the stolen vehicle had that same style of wheel. You know, 'fast and gangsta cool'. --At one point when the wily bandit rounded a corner at a slightly less than legal speed, the car leaned, the rubber comp
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I think that the update of Galactica is parallel to the maturing of TV audiences across all ages. Television is a great medium for campy adventure shows, but as is has grown in popularity, the viewers have (generally) demanded more. Almost all shows from the 50's through the 80's were highly camp-filled love fests, and the darker, grittier shows such as those
For one: Stop advertising for Ford! (Score:2)
And secondly:
"Designer Harald Belker, who has created the Batmobile for Batman and Robin and a next-gen space shuttle for Armageddon, came onboard to give the new KITT. a unique look."
Say no more. It'll suck.
I'm dissapointed (Score:2)
disputed specs on the original kitt (Score:2)
How many times did we watch Michael video conference with Devon?
10 miles Range 20 miles
I have no idea what they are talking about here. Do they mean in "super pursuit mode" or just ordinary driving? 10 mile range sounds kinda silly.
No Keyless Entry and Ignition Yes
How many times did Michael run up to kitt to meet him in a hurry, where kitt power slid to a stop and swung th door open? That's about as 'keyless entry' as it gets.
No 360-Degree Video Su
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KITT is a Cylon (Score:3, Insightful)
I read the article, but I didn't see any mention of KITT's Cylon "eye". There's a little gap there, but not sure if that's supposed to be the "eye". I am a child of the '80s, I did watch the show (sometimes), and this can't really be Knight Rider if KITT isn't a Cylon.
An even more annoying voice (Score:2)
Knight Boat (Score:2)
"Or an inlet."
Re:Hasslehoff (Score:5, Funny)
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But this is just another NBC anti-war propaganda show. Never mind the car, the new "Hoff" is going to be a "Jaded" Iraq war Army Ranger Who lost his entire battalion in Iraq. Funny, I never heard anything on the news about an entire battalion being lost in Iraq at any time during this war. I guess NBC has high hopes eh?
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Second, the wheels on the Ford suck... They should at least be aerodynamic and functional like KITT's. Not, sticking out 3 inches from the fender well and low profile. Seriously, what happened to all the aerodynamic wheel designs on the market???
Finally, I predict flop due to the crappy car... The only thing that could save it now is Will Smith becoming the new Knight Rider. If you are going to be disruptive wit
Re:OMG! G-Forces! (Score:4, Interesting)
Here ya go, Anglophile car geeks
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You should watch Jeremy review the F-150 then :)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=EZ21P6fFSuo [youtube.com]Hollywood Ideas. (Score:2)
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