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HBO Exec Proposes DRM Name Change

Posted by Zonk on Thu May 10, 2007 02:07 PM
from the that's-all-that's-in-the-way dept.
surfingmarmot writes "An HBO executive has figured out the problem with DRM acceptance — it's the name. HBO's chief technology officer Bob Zitter now wants to refer to the technology as Digital Consumer Enablement. Because, you see, DRM actually helps consumers by getting more content into their hands. The company already has HD movies on demand ready to go, but is delaying them because of ownership concerns. Says Zitter, 'Digital Consumer Enablement would more accurately describe technology that allows consumers "to use content in ways they haven't before," such as enjoying TV shows and movies on portable video players like iPods. "I don't want to use the term DRM any longer," said Zitter, who added that content-protection technology could enable various new applications for cable operators.'"
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  • Freakanomics (Score:5, Insightful)

    "[I asked my tech people, and they said that] theoretically those analog outputs could be disabled, forcing consumers to use a secure digital connection to watch HD content. [Then they tried to convince me that such measures were mostly token measures, but I ignored them.] A lack of copy protection is holding HBO back from making its own content available in high-definition through its popular HBO On Demand platform, [because I didn't take the time to listen to my technologists. I decided that the real problem was the name, not that the technology was backed by poor use of legal constructs.]"

    I'm still waiting to see how long it takes these people to realize that they're actually driving piracy with every day they wait. They should consider the data gathered in the "freakanomics" research [freakonomics.com]. The data clearly shows that most people are honest, and those that aren't simply aren't. If you offer up content at a fair price, the majority of users will purchase that content rather than resorting to illegal or immoral means to obtain it. Meanwhile, the DRM restrictions will do little to stop those looking for a free ride. They're not going to pay for it in the first place, so why worry about it now? If they can't get past your DRM scheme (not likely), they'll rip it from the DVDs or HD-DVDs.

    The software industry had to learn the same thing many years ago. Copy protection annoyed the paying users while doing little to stop the pirates. Why can't anyone get that lesson through their head?
    • Re:Freakanomics (Score:5, Insightful)

      by tringstad (168599) on Thursday May 10 2007, @02:13PM (#19072489)
      The software industry had to learn the same thing many years ago.

      As far as I can tell, the software industry to this day has never learned this.

      -Tommy

      [ Parent ]
        • Re:Freakanomics (Score:5, Insightful)

          by Aladrin (926209) on Thursday May 10 2007, @03:05PM (#19073545)
          "No one ships defective media on purpose"

          Yes they do. Check a little further into CD protection schemes. That's exactly what they do.

          Instead of the words in the manual, they now have the software check online to see if it's valid.

          Software DRM has changed considerably over the last 20 years, but it still exists.
          [ Parent ]
          • Re:Freakanomics (Score:5, Interesting)

            by imidan (559239) on Thursday May 10 2007, @05:36PM (#19075981)

            Yeah, what is the deal with that? Why do I have to have the CD in to play? Given the right software, which anyone can get, the CD is trivially easy to copy to my hard drive. Or I can download a no-CD crack off the Internet. Why do they make this little hoop for me to jump through? Look, I bought the game. I have the sales receipt and everything!

            My theory is that the people who make DRM technologies are kind of like telephone sanitizers. We've just been paying them for so long that if we suddenly give up on this utterly wasteful technology, then we'll be stuck with a lot of out-of-work DRM people, and they'll be meddling in the kitchen cupboards, rearranging them so we can never find anything anymore.

            [ Parent ]
        • Re:Freakanomics (Score:5, Interesting)

          by HAKdragon (193605) <hakdragonNO@SPAMgmail.com> on Thursday May 10 2007, @03:08PM (#19073603)
          Actually, a number of PC games do rely on "bad data" on the discs to avoid being copied casually. Software, such as Alcohol 120% and Daemon's (sp?) Tools have methods of getting around these various protections.
          [ Parent ]
        • Re:Freakanomics (Score:5, Interesting)

          by geekoid (135745) <dadinportland@yaho o . com> on Thursday May 10 2007, @03:30PM (#19073999) Homepage Journal
          " No one ships defective media on purpose and the way that licensing is implemented isn't just amateur hour anymore."

          yeah..that';s why it takes moments after release for there to be a crack.
          I have downloaded a no CD crack for every game. Yeah I bought the game, I just want to play it without hearing the cd whine up and down and cause a stutter in the game.

          [ Parent ]
          • Re:Freakanomics (Score:5, Informative)

            by Rei (128717) on Thursday May 10 2007, @05:02PM (#19075477) Homepage
            Well, in my (admittedly very limited) cracking experience, it's not that hard.

            1) Decompile the code into assembly.
            2) Search for usage of a string that you expect to be near the validity check you're hoping to remove.
            3) Find any conditional jumps in the current block of code (following branches as you come to them).
            4) Invert them.
            5) Try the program out and see if you get past. If you do, you're done. If not, continue on.
            6) Find all callers of the piece of code you're looking at.
            7) For each of them, go back to step #3 and repeat the process.

            You can also do variants like adding your own jumps in or replacing existing jumps with nops.
            [ Parent ]
            • Re:Freakanomics (Score:5, Interesting)

              by Opportunist (166417) on Friday May 11 2007, @06:51AM (#19080989)
              It ain't that easy anymore.

              Many programs today start running CRCs of themselves to disable exactly this practice (i.e. making a conditional jump unconditional or inverting it, which used to create the funny side effect of the game only running without the CD inserted, but not when it was present :)), they just set a variable and test it a long time later to thwart simple approaches like your step 2, or they use code altering techniques, execute code out of data segments or even the stack (and now try to convince Vista that this is a good idea...).

              Cracking games was a fun pastime in the 80s and 90s, with people competing who can do it first. Someone who cannot be me (of course not, I'd never ever do anything illegal) holds a personal record of just under 10 minutes, including the disassembly process (which took quite a while in the old days). But that changed big time with the advent of "professional" (read: done for profit, not done with a lot of knowledge) copy protection mechanisms.

              If the computer content industry really wants to find out who cracks their games, all they gotta do is take a close look at the times when people take days off. Whenever a new version of a copy protection program comes out, I bet a lot of very good people take a day or two off. :)
              [ Parent ]
          • Re:Freakanomics (Score:5, Funny)

            by Rei (128717) on Thursday May 10 2007, @05:27PM (#19075833) Homepage
            DRM is alive and well in software.

            No it's not! Remember, it's "Digital Consumer Enablement" now!

            I, for one, welcome this change. Nothing makes the public dislike something faster than giving it an Orwellian, "War-Is-Peace" type name. I mean, picture these name changes:

            SUV: "Environment Enhancing Vehicle"
            Semi-Automatic Rifle: "Bloodshed Prevention Device"
            Watching paint dry: "Paint's Amazing Adventure!"
            Shooting fish in a barrel: "Experts-only Marksmanship Challenge"
            Zombie invasion: "Undead Welcoming Party"
            Invading Iraq to pursue your hairbrained geopolitical theories at the expense of the local population: "Freedom"
            [ Parent ]
            • Re:Freakanomics (Score:5, Insightful)

              by InvalidError (771317) on Thursday May 10 2007, @06:37PM (#19076663)
              Digital Rights Management was deemed a misnomer by educated people, is getting increasing heat from the general public and is now getting called "Digital Restrictions Management"

              To "dispose" of the heat, the MAFIAA decides to rename it Digital Consumer Enablement... I'll write it off as "Digital Consumer Extortion" in my book as I expect every control-freak measures to be implemented in the name of DCA to be at least as potentially restrictive and encumbering as anything else that got introduced in the name of DRM.

              I hate those moronic execs who try to convince the general public that the likes of DRM allows people to do stuff people could not already do... the only thing DRM enables is taking the willing consumers' wallets to the cleaners without said consumers being able to do anything about it when they hit a DRM brick wall they did not see coming.
              [ Parent ]
    • Re:Freakanomics (Score:5, Funny)

      by aichpvee (631243) on Thursday May 10 2007, @02:16PM (#19072543) Journal
      I'm not going to call it piracy anymore. I prefer Consumer Choice Enablement. CCE allows consumers (not customers, since you won't be paying for the service) to enjoy content not only in ways they haven't before, such as on portable video players like the iAudio A2, but at a more reasonable price than they have been offered in the past. This is also a win-win situation for the content creators as it alleviates all packaging and most distribution costs, as well as providing excellent word-of-mouth advertising for FREE!
      [ Parent ]
      • Re:Freakanomics (Score:5, Insightful)

        by bobcat7677 (561727) on Thursday May 10 2007, @02:46PM (#19073207) Homepage
        Parent should have been modded insightful...not funny. Fight fire with fire.
        [ Parent ]
      • Re:Freakanomics (Score:5, Insightful)

        by Cadallin (863437) on Thursday May 10 2007, @02:58PM (#19073419)
        How about Personal Choice Enablement? I am not a customer. I am not a "consumer." I am not a "citizen." I am a person. It is personhood that comes first. All else is predicate upon personhood, and its about damn time somebody reminded these dehumanizing fuckers about that.

        Otherwise I agree completely and in a serious fashion with your premise.

        [ Parent ]
    • Re:Freakanomics (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Propagandhi (570791) on Thursday May 10 2007, @02:21PM (#19072679) Journal

      Why can't anyone get that lesson through their head?

      This baffles me more than it should, I guess. The idea that there should be some invisible barrier between me and the 1's and 0's in my computer's memory (solid state or otherwise) is insane. This shit honestly needs to be explained, slowly and forcefully, to the higher ups that keep greenlighting this shit.
      [ Parent ]
    • Re:Freakanomics (Score:5, Insightful)

      by TheMeuge (645043) on Thursday May 10 2007, @02:22PM (#19072729) Homepage
      The answer to your question is simple - it's greed. Unadulterated, foaming-at-the-mouth greed.

      The media executives have for so long held onto their positions of power, privilege and wealth, that they have lost any notions of reality. As far as they are concerned, they are gods, and the consumers are the worshipers.

      When they get a whiff of even a minute challenge to this doctrine, they are engulfed in rage, because it is something they cannot control, regardless of how much money they throw at the issue. After all, as far as they're concerned, the consumers are the commodity - they own your eyes, and sell them as they please (not quite that simple in the case of HBO, but you get the idea). So they get angrier and angrier, until this rage spills over as utter stupidity.

      P.S. They might as well call executions a "happy express to heaven".
      [ Parent ]
      • Re:Freakanomics (Score:5, Interesting)

        by SadGeekHermit (1077125) on Thursday May 10 2007, @02:40PM (#19073087)
        I recently got a bill from Time Warner Cable for 160.00. 140 of it was for cable, internet, and etc. 22 was for Girls Gone Wild and something even dirtier. Of course, I have no problem with THAT, heh heh...

        But jeez, 140 bucks for TV???

        I called them and cancelled everything except my broadband internet connection. My monthly bill went from 144 bucks to 44 bucks. I saved a hundred bucks a month by dropping cable television!

        The girl on the line sounded positively HURT by this. She asked me "But why do you want to cancel TV?" I told her it just wasn't interesting and she said "oh" in a quiet voice.

        I felt at that moment as if I'd just dumped a sweet, loving girlfriend and broken her heart. It was a bizarre thing.

        It didn't stop me from saving a hundred bucks, though! Woo HOO! That's two cases of beer a week!

        YouTube and AtomFilms are better anyway...

        [ Parent ]
        • Re:Freakanomics (Score:5, Interesting)

          by zero_offset (200586) on Thursday May 10 2007, @03:17PM (#19073753) Homepage
          Those people who take your service cancellation requests make commissions from convincing you to keep your service. I'm thinking there's a pretty good chance she saw "SadGeekHermit habitually orders PPV softcore pseudo-porn" and concluded the sad-dumped-girlfriend voice might open you up for a discussion where she could set the hooks.

          On a side note: what are you drinking? I would hope $100 would get you four cases. My "default" beer is Sam Adams and it runs about $25 for a case, when you can find it by the case, and most people consider it expensive. (In reality MY cost is much less since I now buy kegs, but in terms of cost by the case...)

          [ Parent ]
      • Re:Freakanomics (Score:5, Insightful)

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 10 2007, @02:46PM (#19073213)

        The answer to your question is simple - it's greed. Unadulterated, foaming-at-the-mouth greed.
        Good to see that media execs and geeks have something in common. The greed works both ways, media companies want money, geeks want movies/music/etc. Both sides are willing to do whatever it takes to get what they want, and there is a vicious circle each trying to outdo the other technologically or through the legal system.
        If you want to break the circle, just don't consume. It's not like what the media companies are putting out is a necessity for life.
        [ Parent ]
    • It's not buggery (Score:5, Funny)

      by spun (1352) <loverevolutionary@NOSpam.yahoo.com> on Thursday May 10 2007, @02:29PM (#19072879) Journal
      It's an internal colon massage! Now bend over...
      [ Parent ]
  • how about... (Score:5, Funny)

    by smitty97 (995791) on Thursday May 10 2007, @02:09PM (#19072401)
    Consumer Rights Access Program
  • Marketing over content (Score:5, Informative)

    by JustNiz (692889) on Thursday May 10 2007, @02:09PM (#19072409)
    A turd by any other name is still a turd.
  • Why not call it... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by swimboy (30943) on Thursday May 10 2007, @02:10PM (#19072423)
    doubleplusgood warmfuzzy protection for all your digital lifestyles!
  • Okay, It's just a term (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Stanistani (808333) on Thursday May 10 2007, @02:11PM (#19072455) Homepage Journal
    Next task:

    Redefine 'rape' as 'enthusiastic love-making.'
  • by sdo1 (213835) on Thursday May 10 2007, @02:12PM (#19072469) Journal
    DRM = Digitally Restricted Media
    DCE = Digitally Constrained Entertainment

    A turd by any other name would still smell as foul... er, or something like that.

    -S
  • Translating service. (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Applekid (993327) on Thursday May 10 2007, @02:12PM (#19072481)
    'Digital Consumer Enablement would more efficiently confuse consumers "to prevent the use of content in ways they haven't before," such as enjoying TV shows time shifted to when they want and movies on portable video players like iPods where they can see them more than once. "I don't want to use the term DRM any longer," said Zitter, "even my Grandma knows by now that DRM is bad, so obviously we have to change the name of it."'
  • by Weaselmancer (533834) on Thursday May 10 2007, @02:13PM (#19072499)

    A bouquet of "fully organic fecal aroma enhancers". Don't worry - they're just like roses.

  • Suddenly I feel enabled! (Score:4, Insightful)

    by paladinwannabe2 (889776) on Thursday May 10 2007, @02:14PM (#19072513)
    Earlier this week I got to have fun with a game I legally purchased -twice- despite being unable to find my CD. After downloading the iso and using Daemon Tools, I was 'Enabled' to play my game again! Yes sir, I was certainly using my content in ways I hadn't used it before!
  • Enablement? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by TheRaven64 (641858) on Thursday May 10 2007, @02:14PM (#19072515) Homepage Journal
    Perhaps he could give me a single concrete example of something that I can do with 'enabled' media that I could not do with the same media with the DRM/DCE removed.
      • That's the fundamental conflict (Score:5, Insightful)

        by mbessey (304651) on Thursday May 10 2007, @02:45PM (#19073189) Homepage Journal
        The reason we have DRM is that the media companies don't think that their interests are aligned with those of the consumer. The hell of it is that most of the time, there's no conflict. If HBO makes DRM-free video available on-demand, most of their existing customers would use it just about how you'd expect. They'd occasionally pay whatever nominal fee, and watch that episode of the Sopranos that they missed last week, and everybody will be happy. HBO gets another revenue stream, and the customers get improved ease-of-use.

        On the other hand, you know that *somebody* will set up their PC with a cablecard (or whatever) and just start downloading everything they can get and then uploading it to the internet where non-subscribers can get it for free.

        HBO is understandably worried that if their most popular content is available for free, some customers will stop paying for it. Based on prior experience with people "pirating" cable, I can't say that they're wrong. People used to regularly break into our cable company's distribution boxes and strip off the notch filters back in the days of analog cable, and there's a brisk business out there on the internet for devices to help people to cheat cable & satellite TV channel restrictions.

        I'd like to believe that DRM-free media will eventually win out, because it's so much more convenient for everybody involved, from the producers, to the consumer electronics industry, to the end-user. Unfortunately, there's some anecdotal evidence from the recent experiences of the music industry that the existence of DRM-free digital coipies of content just leads to rampant copying, and that does have some negative effect on sales. The music industry went digital without an effective DRM system in place, and now they're stuck with it - you can't stop making CDs, or nobody would buy your music.

        That's a "mistake" video companies are eager not to repeat.
        [ Parent ]
  • Makes as much sense... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by bearinboots (743355) on Thursday May 10 2007, @02:15PM (#19072527)

    ... as Windows Genuine Advantage.

    Put a positive spin on the name and you can fool anyone!

  • Renaming fun (Score:5, Funny)

    by dissy (172727) on Thursday May 10 2007, @02:16PM (#19072555)
    I can't agree more!

    I no longer want anyone to call it 'copyright violation', but instead lets call it 'early retirement to the public domain'
  • Yeah, right. (Score:5, Funny)

    by rob1980 (941751) on Thursday May 10 2007, @02:16PM (#19072571)
    Just because "baking brownies" is a euphemism for "taking a shit" doesn't mean it's going to smell any better.
  • by cHALiTO (101461) <elchalo@@@gmail...com> on Thursday May 10 2007, @02:17PM (#19072593) Homepage
    I'm tired of this SHIT.

    Wake me up when they're ready to actually SELL me a record or a movie. I don't want no 'license' to listen/watch something or any shit of the sort. I want to OWN a COPY. Copyright says I can't redistribute copies. Fine. But I want MINE to be MY OWN, and do with it whatever the fuck I want.

    They can't have their cake and eat it too... and if they can.. well, they shouldn't.
  • Sadly, correct (Score:5, Insightful)

    by happyfrogcow (708359) on Thursday May 10 2007, @02:17PM (#19072595)
    He's sadly correct that successfull deployment of DRM is only a good marketting campaign away.

  • Let's play the name game (Score:5, Insightful)

    by suv4x4 (956391) on Thursday May 10 2007, @02:19PM (#19072649)
    Those people will never get it. The name doesn't matter. What's so sinister about "Digital Rights Management"? It sounds pretty nice to me. The bad connotations aren't coming from the name, it's the essence of what DRM is.

    People keep thinking that the order and choice of letters is all it takes to turn something bad into something great.

    This has been happening also in the way people have called people with mental handicaps throughout the years, and the constant "reinvention" of the terms, to keep the names less insulting:

    -----

    Socially responsible guy: We shouldn't call them "idiots" anymore. That's insulting. We'll call it people with mental retardation: retards.
    General public: Yea, that is a nice neutral name, no bad connotations.

    One year later:

    General public: My brother is a damn retard, I hate him.
    Socially responsible guy: That's insulting. We shouldn't call them retards anymore. We'll call them people with "slow mental development". Slow people.
    General public: Yea, that's neutral and nice. Cool.

    One year later:

    General public: My neighbour is "slow" or something. Huhuhu.
    Socially responsible guy: We shouldn't call them "slow", that's insulting. Well call them "people with special education needs". Special people.

    One year later:

    General public: My new coworker is "special". Huhuu, get it? "Special". Hehehe.

    ----------

    Basically you can change a name any times you want. Bad fame will come to haunt you never mind how hard you try.
  • Call it what it is... (Score:5, Funny)

    by FellowConspirator (882908) on Thursday May 10 2007, @02:20PM (#19072659)
    The technology is a Fair Use Circumvention Kit, consisting of equal parts technology, marketing, and industry-written legislation.

    The term Fair Use Circumvention Kit is not only much more descriptive of the true nature of the beast, the acronym is also easy to remember, catchy, and equally descriptive.
  • Obligatory Futurama (Score:5, Funny)

    by richdun (672214) on Thursday May 10 2007, @02:21PM (#19072683)

    Slurm Queen: As for you, you will be submerged in Royal Slurm which, in a matter of minutes, will transform you into a Slurm Queen like myself.

    Small Glurmo #1: But, Your Highness, she's a commoner. Her Slurm will taste foul.

    Slurm Queen: Yes! Which is why we'll market it as New Slurm. Then, when everyone hates it, we'll bring back Slurm Classic, and make billions!

    (thanks to The Neutral Planet [geocities.com])

  • Excellent Idea! (Score:5, Funny)

    by Greyfox (87712) on Thursday May 10 2007, @02:23PM (#19072739) Homepage
    I propose "Herpes".

    Yeah I would rip that song from the CD to my ipod but the herpes kept me from doing it.

    Yeah I would post that clip from Colbert on Youtube but... you know... the herpes...

    That'd be awesome!

    • Re: H.E.R.P.E.S. (Score:5, Funny)

      by fred fleenblat (463628) on Thursday May 10 2007, @04:44PM (#19075159) Homepage
      * Highly Effective Restriction of Personal Entertainment Systems
      * Had Ecstasy, Resigned to Pretty Excruciating Software
      * Hamstrung Electronic Reuse Platform--Extra Stupid
      * Half-assed Extra Rotten Playing Encryption Setup
      * Helps Evil Recording People Eat Sushi
      [ Parent ]
  • Great quote (Score:5, Insightful)

    by gr8_phk (621180) on Thursday May 10 2007, @02:33PM (#19072963)

    HBO's big concern is the analog hole--in essence the gap in DRM that lets consumers capture the unencrypted analog signal from an HD signal. He, apparently, would like to plug the hole, but can't due to meddlesome laws.

    That would be the meddlesome laws of physics right?
  • Rightsizing (Score:4, Funny)

    by toriver (11308) on Thursday May 10 2007, @02:38PM (#19073053)
    This is a suit doing the same eupheismology as when the negatively laden "downsizing" (which was still better than "decimating" I guess) was turned into "rightsizing". These days the negatively laden "offshoring" has also been substituted by "rightshoring".

    So they need to come up with a term that starts with "right". "Rightlocking" sounds about right since you're locked to the industry's restrictions.

    So: "Rightlocking". Remember, you read it first on /.
  • That's funny (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Control Group (105494) on Thursday May 10 2007, @02:44PM (#19073155) Homepage
    I also don't want to use "DRM" any more.

    I suspect he and I disagree on ways and means, though.
  • I've heard this one... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by argent (18001) <peter&slashdot,2006,taronga,com> on Thursday May 10 2007, @04:31PM (#19075013) Homepage Journal
    An old fellow is talking to his grand-daughter as he works in the garden, and he keeps talking about he manure he's spreading on the flowerbeds. The bothers the girl's mother and she asks her husband "I hope your father washes his hands before he comes in... and why can't he call it 'fertilizer' like polite folks"? He replies, "honey, it took us 30 years to get him to call it 'manure'".

    Look, folks, you got people to quit calling it "Copy Protection" because people got tired of the smell. Now it seems like it smells just as bad when you call it "Digital Rights Management". Calling it empowered this or enabled that isn't going to make it smell any better.