Hazardous Substances Found In All Headphones Tested By ToxFREE Project (theguardian.com) 95
An anonymous reader quotes a report from the Guardian: You wear them at work, you wear them at play, you wear them to relax. You may even get sweaty in them at the gym. But an investigation into headphones has found every single pair tested contained substances hazardous to human health, including chemicals that can cause cancer, neurodevelopmental problems and the feminization of males. [...] Researchers say that while individual doses from particular sources may be low, a "cocktail effect" of daily, multi-source exposure nevertheless poses potentially severe long-term risks to health. [...]
Researchers bought 81 pairs of in-ear and over-ear headphones, either on the market in the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Hungary, Slovenia and Austria, or from the online marketplaces Shein and Temu, and took them for laboratory analysis, testing for a range of harmful chemicals. "Hazardous substances were detected in every product tested," they said. Bisphenol A (BPA) appeared in 98% of samples, and its substitute, bisphenol S (BPS), was found in more than three-quarters. Synthetic chemicals used to stiffen plastic, BPA and BPS mimic the action of oestrogen inside organisms, causing a range of adverse effects including the feminization of males, early onset puberty in girls, and cancer. Previous studies have shown that bisphenols can migrate from synthetic materials into sweat, and that they can be absorbed through the skin.
"Given the prolonged skin contact associated with headphone use, dermal exposure represents a relevant pathway, and it is reasonable to assume that similar migration of BPA and its substitutes may occur from headphone components directly to the user's skin," the researchers said. Also found in the headphones tested were phthalates, potent reproductive toxins that can impair fertility; chlorinated paraffins, which have been linked to liver and kidney damage; and brominated and organophosphate flame retardants, which have similar endocrine disrupting properties to bisphenols. Most were, however, found in only trace quantities.
Researchers bought 81 pairs of in-ear and over-ear headphones, either on the market in the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Hungary, Slovenia and Austria, or from the online marketplaces Shein and Temu, and took them for laboratory analysis, testing for a range of harmful chemicals. "Hazardous substances were detected in every product tested," they said. Bisphenol A (BPA) appeared in 98% of samples, and its substitute, bisphenol S (BPS), was found in more than three-quarters. Synthetic chemicals used to stiffen plastic, BPA and BPS mimic the action of oestrogen inside organisms, causing a range of adverse effects including the feminization of males, early onset puberty in girls, and cancer. Previous studies have shown that bisphenols can migrate from synthetic materials into sweat, and that they can be absorbed through the skin.
"Given the prolonged skin contact associated with headphone use, dermal exposure represents a relevant pathway, and it is reasonable to assume that similar migration of BPA and its substitutes may occur from headphone components directly to the user's skin," the researchers said. Also found in the headphones tested were phthalates, potent reproductive toxins that can impair fertility; chlorinated paraffins, which have been linked to liver and kidney damage; and brominated and organophosphate flame retardants, which have similar endocrine disrupting properties to bisphenols. Most were, however, found in only trace quantities.
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Re: Huh (Score:4, Insightful)
Silicone doesn't have bisphenol A or similar plasticizers as far as I know.
Probably why they choose it as a base material for Subway sandwiches as well as dildos.
So, when's the audit? (Score:2)
We can start very slowly walking back the inputs which have made it more convenient for the product manufacturing companies.
It's going to take social requests for large companies, such as Kroger and other national grocers, to encourage their suppliers to reduce plastic packaging, not for pollution reason, but for for introducing chemicals into food products.
Campbell's soup Australia has information on this - https://www.campbellsanz.com/a... [campbellsanz.com]
"The Australia and New Zealand Food Standards Code does not require
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Lying sack of shit.
Apple headphones are protected by pixie dust and unicorn excrement. You must be too poor to afford them. Either that or you are a damn heterosexual.
Either way you make me sick.
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Where do you think Apple makes its products, Wonderland?
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Thankfully, the supreme court justices you are referring to have no jurisdiction over the people who did that research.
Re:Huh (Score:5, Insightful)
Would we have better luck getting rid of some of this stuff and moderating intake of foods that can disrupt hormonal balance if we let everyone know it is not good for women either? This might sound strange to say, but it is obvious that few care about what is happening to men, happening right before us.
I don't think it works that way. Medical science overwhelmingly neglects women so there's really no chance that is what would move the needle. The problem is denialism. People addicted to our modern lifestyle who cannot imagine being able to have luxuries if we make changes will resist believing anything that requires them to make any.
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Your personal attack on me tells me all I need to know about you Drinkypoo.
Your abject hypocrisy in telling me not to "play the "I didn't say that" game and then following it by attributing to me something which I did not say is fucking pathetic. I quoted the important parts for you and you still couldn't figure out what was wrong with you, because you're in denial about your inability to remember what you're saying and remain consistent for more than a paragraph. You forgot what your argument even was right in the middle of it but you still want to tell me about me? You're a sorr
Re: Huh (Score:3, Insightful)
I didnâ(TM)t see all this rage when woman were called women, but the meaning was âoea being that cooks, keeps the house, gives birth to babies, feeds the family, obeys her husband, is a sex hole and so on.â
I feel you agree that it was a much better definition.
Well, as long as your wife agrees with that, I have no say in it.
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I didnâ(TM)t see all this rage when woman were called women, but the meaning was âoea being that cooks, keeps the house, gives birth to babies, feeds the family, obeys her husband, is a sex hole and so on.â
I feel you agree that it was a much better definition.
Well, as long as your wife agrees with that, I have no say in it.
Funny you should ask. My wife finds "birthing person" exceptionally offensive and making women appear to have only one reason to exist.
Her logic? A woman can do anything that she is capable of. That women have the same intellectual capacity as men, but their biology makes them in general smaller and less strong physically than men. "Birthing person" is exactly that a human being whose purpose in life is giving birth. Nothing more.
And just for the record, my wife was a Vice President in her company, pa
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I think you didn't understand what I meant. It was not about your wife agreeing to birthing person. It was about her agreeing to a being that cooks, keeps the house, gives birth to babies, feeds the family, obeys her husband, is a sex hole and so on. And, from what you say about her, she doesn't. And, in this case, I'm happy to feel that you are OK with it.
In my everyday life, I don't see feminism stating that all men are evil or that all men are rapists. This is reserved to the most radical factions inside
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In my everyday life, I don't see feminism stating that all men are evil or that all men are rapists.
I don't exactly see that, but today I did see a woman posting (on bsky) about how she's done with men until we collectively get our shit together, which is not how genders work. But it's her sexuality, she can run it however she wants.
Re: Huh (Score:4, Insightful)
I totally expected that wall of text to end with a link to fark/politics.
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I totally expected that wall of text to end with a link to fark/politics.
I totally expected that pointless reply to end with a link to r/Feminism Anyhow, you show your intellect, with the modern person's inability to concentrate for more than 5 seconds. Congratulate yourself for fighting the war of who could care less.
3 insightful - sometimes Slashdot seems to be devolving.
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BPA is a monomer/precursor for most polycarbonates. It remains in trace quantities in the finished product. It isn't going away any time soon. Your definition of sex is clearly the only one possible, so all those people that feel alienated in their bodies should just suck it up and accept that their lives will always be unfulfilled.
First thing - I fully support that adults should be Abel to make decisions about transitioning if they desire. It is their bodies, their choices. The extent to which I accept is infinite. any and all things they wish to do to their bodies - I fully support that.
On the other hand, a child who cannot give consent to sex should not be able to give consent to remove their sexual organs. If you have a problem with that - not my problem.
Just a question. Have you never ever once in your life questioned you
Re: Huh (Score:2)
Tested on frogs first :)
old dog whistle (Score:3)
That phrase is a tired old trope and a dog whistle for those looking for the groupthink when it comes to social roles. The reality of gender was always much more complex than those with an agenda on either side of the issue of gender politics.
When one even tries to work out what "feminization of males" even means. It doesn't take long to stumble onto gems like:
Among the characteristics associated with masculinity are self-reliant, defends own beliefs, aggressive, acts as a leader. Among characteristics on the feminine side are these: yielding, helpful, sensitive to the needs of others, and gentle.
Certainly if these characterizations were strictly true between the genders, we would as rationale beings only allow men to work in the military unde
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You get shocks in your ear from headphones? That's weird AF, I've had a lot of headphones, most of them were crap, and none of them ever did that to me even once. Maybe stop plugging them into the mains?
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I am guessing here, but seems plausible.
Or don't buy that genuine panaphonics hi-fi amp from Ebay...
This is bullshit! (Score:2)
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This is Bullshit! The dose is the poison. And the dose is too low.
The clickbait is the poison.
Fucking hell do I hate it when people never consider root cause. It allows poison makers to thrive.
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Yes we used to think that. Now we know that there are many chemicals that at low does accumulate in the body to detrimental affect. For example, PFAS chemicals and also the chemicals mentioned in the study: BPA and BPS.
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Actually, they did not even seem to have measured the dose you get. Obviously, the assumption of it being too low to have any real effect is a valid one, but the laziness in this "investigation" is stunning. Sounds like they just scraped off a bit, threw it into a gas-chromatograph, looked up what they found and called it a day.
silicone socks (Score:2)
All of the high-end earbuds and lots of the low-end ones have silicone ear pieces. Some of them are even uncolored.
Re: silicone socks (Score:3)
I though this was going to be a fleshlight related comment.
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Fleshlight patent describes the main squish material as 90-94% mineral oil plasticizer. US5807360A [google.com]
I was at a university lecture where someone from the Fleshlight distributor was invited to speak.
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Device for discreet sperm collection
[...]
2. The device of claim 1, wherein said elastomeric gel is formed from a mixture of plasticizing oil and a block copolymer selected from styrene ethylene butylene styrene block copolymers and styrene ethylene propylene styrene block copolymers.
3. The device of claim 2, wherein said elastomeric gel is formed from a mixture of 5-9% by weight of said block copolymer and 90-94% by weight of said plasticizing oil, and trace amounts of pigments and fillers.
4. The device of claim 1, wherein said device has the appearance of a flashlight.
It's discreet because no one will notice a guy fucking a flashlight!
Re: silicone socks (Score:2)
Also I'm not getting rid of my cupcake pan.
Do not eat the headphones, (Score:5, Insightful)
Do not eat the headphones,
Do not grind the headphones into a fine powder and the inhale it.
Do not put powdered headphones into jockstrap.
Got it. Sounds like every other Safety Data Sheet. (Formerly material data safety sheet, or MSDS).
Re: Do not eat the headphones, (Score:2)
Do not put them on your skin either. As you can absorb BPA. Maybe not that quickly with your hands or ears. Probably don't put ear buds in your nose or your butt.
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That really is the question. Or rather how much you get that way is the question. And how dangerous that would be. But this "investigation" does not seem to have an answer.
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Yep. Short version: Doing stupid things may be hazardous to your health.
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The skin is an organ, and absorbs a surprising amount of whatever it comes into contact with.
Wouldn't be quite so glib.
Maybe this is low-risk, or maybe it's delivering concerning compounds into our bodies. Maybe would be good to know.
Like a shadow ban but for real life (Score:3)
Maybe there are just as many "soy boys" as always but people have secretly ostricized you and you haven't noticed.
In other news... (Score:5, Interesting)
All headphones likely also contain "chemicals known to the State of California to cause cancer, birth anomalies, or other reproductive harm."
Maybe there's actually an issue here. But a group calling itself the "ToxFREE Project" strikes me as to be far more like the State of California and its Proposition 65 warnings than an objective observer.
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Funny thing, the same warning is on some toasted seaweed that I like. But you should limit these to one pack per day anyways due to Iodine content. And then the other stuff really is just background noise.
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Thanks for continuing to demonstrate your stupidity. It is nice that some things are reliable in an ever-changing world.
Prolonged headphone use? (Score:4, Interesting)
These chemicals are present in many stiff plastics. Most stiff plastics do *NOT* touch your body. In fact headphone manufacturers go out of their way to make sure stiff plastics don't touch your body because when they do they are uncomfortable.
Tell me what chemicals are in the fake pleather cover of the ear foam, or the headband foam. Everything else is irrelevant.
*This post brought to you by the dose of chemicals picked up from the plastic stiffener used in my keyboard*.
Re:Prolonged headphone use? (Score:5, Interesting)
Tell me what chemicals are in the fake pleather cover of the ear foam, or the headband foam. Everything else is irrelevant.
Generally, the softer the plastic, the more plasticizers have been added. Plasticizers are usually the chemicals of concern, because they are often endocrine disrupters.
I'm pretty sure these plasticizers routinely leach out of headphone pads because the pads on every pair of headphones I've owned over the past 40 years has gotten brittle and disintegrated after a few years of use.
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Indeed. Other common chemicals of concern involve fire and UV resistance. Some plastics are just naturally soft, but some grades of them are produced with additives.
I have Sennheiser HD420s, they have a soft plastic short plush covering which I bet is releasing all kinds of plasticizers.
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Mine crumbled too. I got some foams for another model and cut them down to fit, I forget which though. What I really need is to find another cord before I finally manage to murder this one, I've run it over with my chair a whole bunch of times and they must have made it out of black box material.
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Generally, the softer the plastic, the more plasticizers have been added. Plasticizers are usually the chemicals of concern, because they are often endocrine disrupters.
While you may be right, it's worth mentioning that you are off topic. The study specifically looked at BPA which is the antithesis of soft plastics, as it is effectively a hardening compound in production of various plastics. Do the pleather earpads contain plasticizer? Maybe, but that's not what was tested for, and not what the article is talking about.
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Not 100% true. From the Wikipiedia article on BPA:
PVC can contain BPA and its derivatives through multiple routes. BPA is sometimes used as an antioxidant in phthalates, which are extensively used as plasticizers for PVC.
This is followed by several other uses of BPA in PVC.
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You're making assumptions for your leap of logic. BPA is largely used in rigid plastics in consumer headphones. While you're right they can be used as additives to plasticisers in flexible things like PVC, the fake leather pads that touch your head and cover your ears -the soft things- are not made from PVC, but rather PU. PVC, regardless of how much plasticiser you throw at it isn't very comfortable. It will typically be used on hard wearing / commercial pleather like on an office chair.
Sidenote PU also br
Good opportunity for an entrepreneur. (Score:2)
Start making nice kid leather ear pads for over the ear headphones.
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Re: Good opportunity for an entrepreneur. (Score:2)
Urine and brains.
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What chemicals are in your leather?
Depends on how it was tanned. Vegetable tanning is a thing.
Re: Good opportunity for an entrepreneur. (Score:3)
Ought to be pretty easy to start a cottage business on Etsy doing that.
Most of the earpads of over the ear headphones I have use a type of vegetable protein leather. It tends to fall apart after a few years but the major brands have a lot of third party producers.
Silicone (Score:3)
It's not as nice but I found silicone works best for the noise canceling sony... Aliexpress sells them. It lasts forever and can be cleaned. Normal headphones are best with cotton covers sold for pilots who have long days with headphones on; those need washing but handle moisture/humidity well.
Leather is like the silicone but hard to clean or look clean, is stiffer, just about as hot it won't last nearly as long. - I doubt most leather pads are thick enough to last much longer than the cotton ones.
Can we stop posting these "freak out" articles (Score:2)
Unless they can quantity the effects and actually say what happens if I wear these? There are many chemicals that are detectable but don't have much of an affect.
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The thing is, modern gas-chromatographs can detect stuff in doses so extremely tiny that you can find all sorts of stuff that does not belong. But at these low concentrations, almost nothing of it matters.
I ignore any article that pontificates about "harmful chemicals" without discussing actual dosage and derived risks with actual numbers.
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Yeah, you can easily detect ppt but does that mean anything? Not for most chemicals.
Takeaway: Don't eat headphones (Score:5, Informative)
Most of these harmful compounds are harmful if you *eat* them, not if you *touch* them. They are undesirable for use in microwave ovens because the heat can cause some of the chemicals to leech into the food they contain. But at room temperature, the chemicals almost entirely remain in the plastic.
If these researchers want to raise the alarm, they need to do some measurements of how much of these chemicals can be absorbed through the skin. Just the presence of the chemicals is not enough to raise concern.
Re: Takeaway: Don't eat headphones (Score:2)
Mostly correct, but over time the body oil from your ears, hair, and skin tend to soften up plastics and make any non-polar chemicals much easier to transfer and absorb.
As someone with oily skin and hair, I know it can happen more quickly than you might imagine. In my first car, the paint on the door where I rested my arm became soft and pliable after only a couple years, and I didn't drive much.
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It's possible that oil could cause chemicals to leech from the plastic into your skin. But is this actually demonstrated by research, or just supposed?
Your car's arm rest might be soft and pliable just due to the repeated pressure from your elbow, it might have nothing to do with oils, and that softness may or may not lead to chemicals leeching.
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There was a study posted here on Slashdot a year or two ago about how significant amounts of bisphenol A are absorbed through the skin from holding receipt paper.
It sounds like the BPA on receipt paper is a surface coating, whereas in plastics it's distributed evenly throughout the material. So to guess, it probably transfers more easily off the receipt paper than hard plastic. But getting through the skin doesn't seem to be a problem.
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significant amounts of bisphenol A are absorbed through the skin from holding receipt paper.
Not a problem. All of my transactions are cash, no reciepts, no taxes paid. If the state comes after me, I'll have them charged with trying to poison me.
I can play a libertarian on TV (Score:1)
I don't use cash because it is printed by an illegitimate organization that uses violence to enforce it's laws. (all governments)
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I assume you also stay off the roads and avoid using any and all government-provided services as well. And you're not connected to your local government-owned utilities either.
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I don't use cash either. But only because my wife already went through my pockets.
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Toxicity is a matter of concentration. Studies have shown that the *primary* source of BPA in the body is through ingestion. It's not clear yet if receipt paper or contact with plastics, result in enough chemical exposure to rise to the level of toxicity in the body.
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Well played
Concerning, but ... (Score:1)
it is reasonable to assume that similar migration of BPA
Are you sure? Is it reasonable to assume when it is just skin contact? Unlike food, most people don't insert headphones in any cavities that have mucous membrane.
Yes, they are usually made out of plastic (Score:2)
How did you know?
More concerned about recipts (Score:3)
Another bs research article (Score:2)