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Scientists Identify Vast Underground Ecosystem Containing Billions of Micro-organisms (theguardian.com) 87

The Earth is far more alive than previously thought, according to "deep life" studies that reveal a rich ecosystem beneath our feet that is almost twice the size of that found in all the world's oceans. From a report: Despite extreme heat, no light, minuscule nutrition and intense pressure, scientists estimate this subterranean biosphere is teeming with between 15bn and 23bn tonnes of micro-organisms, hundreds of times the combined weight of every human on the planet. Researchers at the Deep Carbon Observatory say the diversity of underworld species bears comparison to the Amazon or the Galapagos Islands, but unlike those places the environment is still largely pristine because people have yet to probe most of the subsurface.

"It's like finding a whole new reservoir of life on Earth," said Karen Lloyd, an associate professor at the University of Tennessee in Knoxville. "We are discovering new types of life all the time. So much of life is within the Earth rather than on top of it." The team combines 1,200 scientists from 52 countries in disciplines ranging from geology and microbiology to chemistry and physics. A year before the conclusion of their 10-year study, they will present an amalgamation of findings to date before the American Geophysical Union's annual meeting opens this week.

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Scientists Identify Vast Underground Ecosystem Containing Billions of Micro-organisms

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  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 10, 2018 @05:25PM (#57782432)

    The question now is how was this overlooked for so long? This really gives credence to the possibility of life under the surface on Mars or other planetary bodies, panspermia, all of that. Wow. Big, big big.

    • by ShanghaiBill ( 739463 ) on Monday December 10, 2018 @05:29PM (#57782466)

      The question now is how was this overlooked for so long?

      It wasn't. This has been well known for decades. This new research didn't "discover" subterranean life, they mostly just quantified and categorized it.

      • see, steve bannon was right, there is a deep staph, it surrounds us. it penetrates us. It binds the universe together. Race Bannon and Johnny quest found this a long time ago when they journeyed to the center of the earth and brought back Yoda and Hitler.

    • by hey! ( 33014 )

      When you walk through the forest, the obvious impression you'll get is that it is a phenomenon consisting principally of trees. In fact it would be more accurate to characterize a forest as a vast network of fungal mycelia in a symbiotic relationship with a superficial layer of trees. If Mark Watney's martian survival depended on some kind of tree, he'd be screwed without the fungi it depends upon.

      But to see this truer picture, you literally have to dig deeper.

      In the same vein, I once heard a talk by E.O

    • by Dunbal ( 464142 ) *
      There's liquid water on Earth. Mars' minuscule quantities of water are frozen. That makes it kind of difficult to access. If you're an organism that produces heat as a byproduct of your metabolism, then maybe you can live in little isolated pools of liquid water but then it becomes a chicken or egg situation. Likewise since Mars does have at least a partially molten core one would expect it to get warmer the further down you go. But then you have to wonder if frozen water could penetrate that deep.
    • Thomas Gold [wikipedia.org] and Russian researchers before him were looking at this back in the 1950's. He wrote a book The Deep Hot Biosphere [springer.com]. One might suppose that the strident opponents of the theory (and Gold) have died or retired so science can now progress in this area.

  • by rsilvergun ( 571051 ) on Monday December 10, 2018 @05:25PM (#57782436)
    get out of my sock draw. If this keeps up I'm going to wash the damn things.
  • by ebcdic ( 39948 ) on Monday December 10, 2018 @05:36PM (#57782520)

    There are billions of micro-organisms in a pot of yogurt. Did you mean billions of species, or billions of tons?

    • by tsqr ( 808554 )

      There are billions of micro-organisms in a pot of yogurt. Did you mean billions of species, or billions of tons?

      I assume you're addressing the difference between the title of TFS (billions of organisms and the content of TFS ("billions of tonnes"). I guess they should have cited the conversion factor.

      One source [stackexchange.com] I found says, "The human body has 10^13 human cells and hosts 9x10^13 bacterial cells." and "mass of bacterial cells in one human body = (0.95×10^15 * 9x10^13) kg = 0.0855 kg = 86 g". So, 1 gram of bacterial cells comprises 9 * 10^13 cells / 86, or 1,058,823,529,412. A metric ton (tonne) is a million gram

  • There is a big difference between "Billions of Micro-organisms" which is a few grams and "Billions of tonnes of Micro-organisms" from the summary.

  • by t0qer ( 230538 ) on Monday December 10, 2018 @05:41PM (#57782570) Homepage Journal

    Would be neat if we found the same thing on Mars.

    • Re:Mars (Score:4, Insightful)

      by quenda ( 644621 ) on Monday December 10, 2018 @07:44PM (#57783224)

      Would be neat if we found the same thing on Mars.

      And not entirely surprising if they turn out to be related.
      Large impacts such as the dino-killer asteroid would have sent large many tonnes of life-bearing rock all over the solar system, including to Europa.

      If we do find such life deep under Mars, one question will be which came first.

    • by Tablizer ( 95088 )

      Would be neat if we found the same thing on Mars.

      Turns out we kind of did; the probes we sent were perhaps not sterilized well enough. [nbcnews.com]

  • Maybe this is where oil comes from?
    • by Anonymous Coward

      Nope. Oil is too concentrated a source of carbon. And many of these organisms are living in igneous rock, which is notoriously bereft of oil. It's possible that some oil deposits were modified by these organisms, but the carbon came from surface sediments.

    • The first thought that occurred to me as well. Until now, the debate has been about abiogenic [wikipedia.org] vs
      fossil [energyeducation.ca] origin of oil. But now, questions can be raised about surface vs subsurface biology. Like you, I was taught in school that coal comes from ancient forests of ferns and oil from ancient algae, but how did all that carbon arrive on the surface in the first place?

      • by Memnos ( 937795 )

        Surface-dwelling plants get their carbon from the air (CO2).

        • Right. There is about 4 orders of magnitude more carbon in the crust than the atmosphere, and maybe 1-2 orders of magnitude less biomass in the crust. It seems like a significant amount of potential methane production to me.

      • by dryeo ( 100693 )

        but how did all that carbon arrive on the surface in the first place?

        Volcanoes, they put out CO2 and there used to be a lot more. To give an idea of how much can be out gassed over billions of years on an Earth sized planet, look at Venus.
        The difference is that the Earth has multiple ways of sequestering carbon, plants, silicate weathering are the main two, along with tectonic plates getting sucked back into the mantle along with all the coal, oil, limestone etc.

  • the diversity of underworld species bears comparison to the Amazon or the Galapagos Islands, but unlike those places the environment is still largely pristine because people have yet to probe most of the subsurface.

    As long as there are no exploitable resources it should be fine. But if someone discovers something useful or that can be sold, it won't take long before we humans manage to lay waste to most of it. Sadly that seems to be the way we operate as a species. We've just gotten very efficient at it as we advance.

    • As long as there are no exploitable resources it should be fine. But if someone discovers something useful or that can be sold, it won't take long before we humans manage to lay waste to most of it. Sadly that seems to be the way we operate as a species. We've just gotten very efficient at it as we advance.

      Agreed. +1

  • by cybersquid ( 24605 ) on Monday December 10, 2018 @06:23PM (#57782784) Homepage
    This sounds a lot like Thomas Gold's [wikipedia.org] Deep Hot Biosphere [wikipedia.org] theory.
    • by Hamfist ( 311248 )

      You beat me to the post!

      So while some of the oilfields may be decomposed dinosaurs, it's looking much more likely that Gold was right and hydrocarbons are the output of actual organisms. Wild stuff.

    • We have a big thick coal band from the Carboniferous period. We have oil wells found where ancient shallow seas did once reside.

      So while I would not conclude Gold is entirely wrong, we need an explanation for why the oil and coal is not found in a very different pattern from the observed real world, in order to accept Gold's theory.

      FYI: I think the idea that life was first created in warm porous rocks (and/or similar) to be likely true.

  • scientists estimate this subterranean biosphere is teeming with [living biomass] hundreds of times the combined weight of every human on the planet.

    We must compete with the mass of this life or be overwhelmed. We can make more humans, or eat more pizza and burgers. I have more experience with the second.

  • DIdn't the Russians find out about this when digging a super deep hole? I read about that years ago.
  • Relocation (Score:4, Funny)

    by angularbanjo ( 1521611 ) on Tuesday December 11, 2018 @02:06AM (#57784450)
    âoeDespite extreme heat, no light, minuscule nutrition and intense pressure...â So Amazon are moving their warehouses underground?

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