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Rumors Flying About New iPhone Capabilities 289

Posted by ScuttleMonkey
from the security-like-a-sieve dept.
Jumping on the completely unconfirmed rumor bandwagon, it seems that there have been photos leaked for the new iPhone, which include things like an auto-focus camera, video capture, and a compass. The photos were originally displayed (and then quickly removed) on a Chinese forum, and quickly spread to many other sites, including a complete human translation on the MacRumors forum. Looks like Apple security may have to break a few more pocket protectors to keep employees in line.
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Rumors Flying About New iPhone Capabilities

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  • by davidwr (791652) on Monday June 01, 2009 @01:22PM (#28170159) Homepage Journal

    iM waiting for the rumored iNexpensive iPhone with the new lower iPrice and no long-term iContract.

  • You mean the G1? (Score:2, Insightful)

    by CritterNYC (190163)

    "things like an auto-focus camera, video capture, and a compass"

    You mean they're gonna release a G1?

    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward

      Except the UI is going to NOT look like a 3 year old designed it.

      • by CritterNYC (190163) on Monday June 01, 2009 @01:36PM (#28170347) Homepage

        I'll give up the shiny UI for the ability to install any app I want and a hardware keyboard.

        • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

          The OS you are looking for is called Windows Mobile. Its been around a pretty long time and does not restrict anything you put on it.

          As for hardware, I am using an HTC Touch Pro on Sprint. Sprint has the cheapest, fastest internet and pretty good coverage as well. The also don't seem to mind if you tether your phone to your laptop.

          There is also several great communities of developers and users devoted to getting all you can out of windows mobile devices. Then have gotten to the point where you can down

          • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

            by sremick (91371)

            The OS you are looking for is called Windows Mobile. Its been around a pretty long time and does not restrict anything you put on it.

            As long as you don't mind running Windows on your cell phone. A lot of us have issues with it, and not just bias.

            Sprint has the cheapest, fastest internet and pretty good coverage as well.

            Cheapest. Fastest. Best. Choose 2. Oh wait, you have.

            Sprint also has like no decent (usable) coverage to speak of in my state. Unless you happen to live in a city. And this is a state where our biggest "city" is only about 200,000 people.

            • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

              by undef (682662)
              I have an HTC Pro with ATT. The hardware itself is cool.

              However, Windows Mobile is frustratingly slow, disorganized and unreliable.

              Press a softkey and you can get GUI feedback that the button was pressed without the OS or app actually taking that action. That's bad enough, but when button presses can take 1 or 2 seconds to execute because of all the bloated WM overhead, then you don't know if you need to press the button again or wait.

              If you do press it again and WM was just lagging, then you get two presse
          • Re:You mean the G1? (Score:4, Informative)

            by yodleboy (982200) on Monday June 01, 2009 @03:25PM (#28172019)
            "The OS you are looking for is called Windows Mobile. Its been around a pretty long time and does not restrict anything you put on it."

            Not always, like many other mobile features, this can and often is also disabled by the carrier. I've had HTC and moto smartphones (winMo) that flat out refuse to install apps OR require the app to have a certificate. At least with the iphone, if it's on the store, it will install and work.

            the kind of people willing to "create your own customized firmware" for a winMo phone are the kind equally comfortable jailbreaking an iphone. The average joe is NOT comfortable with either of these and for them the issue of "restriction" is largely a non issue. The kind of apps that require a hacked handset are probably not what they're looking for anyway.

            my only real gripe with the apple app model is the cost of entry for devs. I don't have mac and I'm not going to buy one just to write an app. At least on a winMo device, I was able to load up visual studio and write an app. Yes, VS costs money, but you can get cheap copies of VS all over the place. Cheaper than a mac anyway.
            • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

              by dunkelfalke (91624)

              Signing is only required for apps writing special registry keys or installing some drivers. You can easily change the security policy just by changing a registry key (nowhere near like jailbreak) and without losing warranty.

              [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\Policies\Policies]
              DWORD 00001005

              if the value of that DWORD is 0 then unsigned CABs won't install. Set the value to 16, it is a safe value which gives the unsigned CABs the normal level access. If you really trust your software, set the value to 8 (Admin right

        • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

          by recharged95 (782975)
          Just trying cupcake and honestly, once you use a keyboard, you'll never go back to a virtual keyboard. Never.
      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        by mdwh2 (535323)

        Only on an Apple article would an ad hominem get +5 insightful.

        Care to explain why the UI is better than all other phones, using evidence, reasoning, and objective examples, as opposed to ad hominems, vague subjective claims, or the "But You Just Have To Use It" claims that we typically get? Or will my honest question just be hidden by the mods so the reasonable questions don't even have to be answered?

    • I didn't even know that there still are phones without video capture. Pretty much all phones here have one cam. Some have two (for video chat).

      How much would you pay, If I'd send you one of these, from over here: http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=hp&hl=en&js=n&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.xonio.com%2Fbestenlisten%2FBestenliste-Handys--index%2Findex%2Fid%2F598%2F&sl=de&tl=en&history_state0= [google.com] (autotranslated)

  • Chances are.. (Score:2, Insightful)

    Apple themselves leaked the pictures, after all they are the masters of "media" manipulation.

    After all's said & done; it's just made the front page of /. :-)
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by alvinrod (889928)

      Why the hell would Apple leak it when it can just as easily make the front page of Slashdot next week when they show off the new features at WWDC. More than likely this is mostly crap designed to drive up page hits for some goon's blog or third rate website. Apple has no real reason to release this information before they actually want to do so.

      Hell, I could easily go grab some crap digital camera and take a picture with it that looks slightly better than a current generation iPhone and then watch as the tr

    • Given that it's in Chinese, how do we know this isn't one of the Dozen iPhone clones running around? Most look pretty dang close (The Chinese Cloners really need to hire a UI guy to get all their MP5 players sorted out).

    • I hate to say this, but the front page of /. has not been a good indicator of business success. If it was, then Linux would be King of the Desktop OS, and the EU would be preparing antitrust litigation against RedHat.

      However, I do agree with your main point. I wouldn't be surprised if this was their way of marketing the new product. How much is it costing them? About $0?
      • :-) That was my intended point, $0. Some of the best value "Marketing" known to man; get the chattering classes talking about something, ostensibly from a third party and denied strenuously by the principal. Nice.

        Now go back up the thread and read some of the utter tripe posted about page hits blah, blah, Apple wouldn't, blah, blah, Apple this, Apple that, integrity. Tosh.

        If there's one thing I've learned in my half century on this planet: Corporations do nothing that's remotely altruistic.

        My next le
  • Repurchase apps? (Score:2, Informative)

    by hansamurai (907719)

    The new software also supposedly makes you re-buy apps that you've already purchased, just so they can allow multiple accounts on one phone (have people really asked for this?).

    http://www.pcworld.com/article/165834/apple_thwarts_app_piracy_ahead_of_iphone_30_release.html [pcworld.com]

    • Re:Repurchase apps? (Score:5, Informative)

      by Bartab (233395) on Monday June 01, 2009 @01:43PM (#28170421)

      Read the article you quote. Which says that Apple will require people to rebuy in order to REDOWNLOAD, and only if you're downloading from a phone. It does not require a re-purchase just for the new phone.

      This requirement, btw, is because otherwise people will be able to purchase on one account, pass that account around and every person would be able to download to their phone.

    • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

      by Anonymous Coward

      You have to repurchase if you want to download them over 3g. If you sync with itunes, you can re-download them all you want.

    • Re: (Score:2, Flamebait)

      The new software also supposedly makes you re-buy apps that you've already purchased, just so they can allow multiple accounts on one phone (have people really asked for this?).

      Average people did not ask for this. It was the nerds on the internet on tech sites that made the most noise. You can thank the nerd for making everyone's life more complicated from now on. Way to go guys. Thanks for ruining it for everyone.

  • Humans? (Score:2, Funny)

    by tx413 (1243778)
    "... including a complete human translation on the MacRumors forum" What are you saying about the Chinese?
    • "... including a complete human translation on the MacRumors forum" What are you saying about the Chinese?

      Didn't you see the last few episodes from BSG? They are obviously descended from the Sharon units. /SARC

      Seriously, though I think the submitter just a thoughtless idiot rather than being intentionally racist.

      • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

        Seriously, though I think the submitter just a thoughtless idiot rather than being intentionally racist.

        He was being neither. "Human translation" is just saying that the translation that was posted to the MacRumors forum wasn't a machine translation from a site like Babelfish. Sheesh.

      • I think the submitter meant that they had an actual human do the translation, as opposed to babelfish. Wasn't what I jumped to first, either.

  • by dkleinsc (563838) on Monday June 01, 2009 @01:31PM (#28170273) Homepage

    I also heard somewhere that the new iPhone will come with a free puppy. It will also water my lawn, clean my house, and walk the puppy for me.

    Can I join a PR agency now?

    • by Lumpy (12016)

      No because you did not mention how the WM based phones kill puppies and will pee on your lawn creating brown spots.

  • Now my goal is obvious - to be more excited about the new iPhone than the Chinese! Thank you Apple for the fake leak to help me gauge my interest!
  • by Full Meat (681492) on Monday June 01, 2009 @01:48PM (#28170503)
    Mr Gadget points out that Gizmodo's report on these new screenshots are actually screenshots from months ago of iPhone 3.0 OS running on an ordinary iPhone 3G. http://www.mrgadget.com.au/gadget/2009/gizmodo-gets-it-wrong-just-iphone-30-os-screen-grabs/ [mrgadget.com.au]
  • New casing? New UI? (Score:4, Informative)

    by sootman (158191) on Monday June 01, 2009 @02:11PM (#28170751) Homepage Journal

    Will it look like an ancient Palm, with a black-and-white screen, a writing area, and only a dozen apps on the homescreen?

    SLASHDOT, FFS, GET SOME NEW ICONS!

    And WTF is up with the MacBook icon on this iPhone story? [slashdot.org] I guess I need to change my request to "new and accurate icons."

    • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

      SLASHDOT, FFS, GET SOME NEW ICONS!

      (QD slaps sootman)

      Get a grip, man! It's tradition. Without tradition we are nothing! Do you undertsand!? NOTHING!! ARGH!!!!!

      (QD slaps self)

  • Verizon? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by the-matt-mobile (621817) on Monday June 01, 2009 @02:20PM (#28170875)

    Being available for Verizon is the only iPhone feature I'm looking for. No chance I'm going with AT&T - period. Maybe I'm the only one that feels this way, or maybe the lure of the iPhone is enough for other people to make the switch. Meh.

  • Those pictures are just from an iPhone running OS 3.0, they were taken by a Chinese blogger demonstrating 3.0's capabilities. According to this site: http://www.mrgadget.com.au/gadget/2009/gizmodo-gets-it-wrong-just-iphone-30-os-screen-grabs/ [mrgadget.com.au] the blogger says (in Chinese) that the pictures were taken of an iPhone 3G with iPhone OS 3.0. This is why you shouldn't spread rumour...
  • by SocietyoftheFist (316444) * on Monday June 01, 2009 @02:29PM (#28171027)

    Do cars shipped to China have trip, km and other english words on the dash instead of the equivalent Chinese? The reasons for the fuzzy photos don't wash as the photographer brandished the phone in public in a car. Seems to me better photos could have been taken easily.

  • Will it finally have buttons? ^^

    (On the back, side, top or bottom does not count. Non-tactile does not count too.)

    • (On the back, side, top or bottom does not count. Non-tactile does not count too.

      What are you, a lawyer? It's like the subtext at the bottom of a contest that disqualifies anyone who could actually enter... you are basically asking "Does it have buttons* * = all possible buttons excluded from answer".

      The real answer of course, is it has infinite buttons since on-screen buttons are perfectly usable. The answer you might possible accept is one, since there's a button on the front, which means you are s

  • which include things like an auto-focus camera, video capture, and a compass

    an android phone? Sounds like the G1 spec sheet.

  • The rumor I heard flying is that the new iPhone can, in fact, fly. It's a full levitation device and can allow a 250 pound man to hover. The TV ads will feature Criss Angel.

    I read it on Crazy Apple Rumors so I know it must be true. It transforms into a bisexual ninja sexbot that serves pudding and other snacks on demand. It will telepathically extract that hot new tune stuck in your head to use as a ring tone.

    If you order one now, the man, the legend, the *god*, Phil Schiller himself will deliver it to your

  • New Shiny ! (Score:2, Insightful)

    by daveime (1253762)

    The iPhone version 3 is finally getting all the stuff that other cellphones have had for 10 years ? And people will still blindly pay through the nose for these "exclusive features" ?

    Not sure about the compass though, I'd have preferred a pair of nail clippers, a corkscrew / bottle opener, and a pair of scissors ... wait, we're talking about a Swiss Army Knife right ?

    We can only hope that the iPhone version 4 will at least upgrade the camera to 1.3 megapix.

    *ducks*

  • by metamatic (202216) on Monday June 01, 2009 @03:17PM (#28171869) Homepage Journal

    You know what would be awesome new features?

    The ability to run whatever software I want, and the ability to operate on whatever phone network I want.

  • by DorkRawk (719109) on Monday June 01, 2009 @04:08PM (#28172705) Homepage
    You're right, Apple should have probably learned their lesson about taking their time and getting features correct rather than trying to have the most features on the block after the whole iPod thing blew up in their faces. "No wireless. Less space than a Nomad. Lame." (2001)

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