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I would draw the line at cloning...

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Extinct species (no raptors)
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Livestock
  507 votes / 1%
Pets
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Human organs
  2196 votes / 5%
Human embryos
  3689 votes / 9%
Whole body clones (evil or otherwise)
  4211 votes / 11%
Crazy hybrid clones
  4280 votes / 11%
No limits, pass the popcorn
  20537 votes / 54%
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I would draw the line at cloning...

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  • Cowboy Neal (Score:5, Funny)

    by danbert8 (1024253) on Friday February 11, 2011 @10:40AM (#35173878)

    It's bad enough having one around...

  • by mangu (126918) on Friday February 11, 2011 @10:43AM (#35173922)

    If there's one thing where cloning is justified, it's with human organs. Transplants from other people are a crude stopgap solution until we are able to clone replacements from our own cells.

    • Start? It's already happening. Not really cloning, but we can now grow some organs from existing tissue. There have been successful trials with grown bladders already.
    • by scsirob (246572) on Tuesday February 15, 2011 @08:18AM (#35208230)

      This will not be a popular opinion but I think we should stop trying to fix every defect in human bodies and trying to extend life indefinitely.
      Our planet isn't able to host more people. Why not concentrate on improving the quality of life and make sure it ends gracefully?

  • I have to deal with too many end-users as it is. We don't need more...

  • by OhHellWithIt (756826) * on Friday February 11, 2011 @11:06AM (#35174264) Journal
    . . . and especially the raptors!
    • Actually, don't use Jurassic Park as your basis for real-life Velociraptors [wikipedia.org] They were about two or three times the actual size and the tail was much too small. Finally, the real raptors were covered in feathers.
      • He didn't specify which raptors, so we still have options [wikipedia.org] that would be to the right scale. And since the feathers don't do anything about the claws and the teeth, I think they only make the things uglier. My big problem with the JP portrayal is how aggressive they were, since you don't see that kind of behavior much in the wild. But hey, only one way to find out, right?

    • by geekoid (135745)

      yeah, like there is any species we could re-extinct if we need to.

  • by mug funky (910186)

    it's just like having a twin. i see no problems.

    now... exact cloning (with memory etc) and teleportation i have metaphysical issues with. like what happens to the soul if there is one?

    • by Chrisq (894406)

      it's just like having a twin. i see no problems.

      now... exact cloning (with memory etc) and teleportation i have metaphysical issues with. like what happens to the soul if there is one?

      Do you really want to know [milkandcookies.com]?

    • Nothing to worry about.

      Gen 1:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

      God takes care of the soul part for you at birth. It's His own contribution to the process.

      That's why the arguments against abortion don't work when you really study the Bible. At best, the only comment the O.T. makes about it was that if two people were fighting and injured a pregnant woman so that she miscarried, the husband of the woman coul

    • by Wyatt Earp (1029)

      Memories are the soul.

      Look at Farscape when John cloned perfectly, the two are the same person.

      • by Elbereth (58257)

        You are not seriously using a show with puppets as evidence for an argument, are you?

    • by IrquiM (471313)
      Only one way to find out! For science!
    • by AGMW (594303)

      it's just like having a twin. i see no problems.

      now... exact cloning (with memory etc) and teleportation i have metaphysical issues with. like what happens to the soul if there is one?

      Luckily, the soul is a human fabricated concept, but if it weren't then we already live with people who, by the soul definition, only have (presumably?) half a soul because identical twins are one fertilised egg (which must, by any definition, be the 'start of life' and therefore the 'start of soul') separated into two distinct embryos. Unless one twin gets the soul and the other is soul-less? I guess we'd have to ask for a set of opinions on that from the various soul believing religions?

      • by Grishnakh (216268)
        <i>Unless one twin gets the soul and the other is soul-less?</i>

        That's exactly what happens. Where do you think the "evil twin" comes from?
  • If I draw the line at cloning organs, is the cloning or raptors included or excluded?
  • Clone 'em All (Score:4, Insightful)

    by BJ_Covert_Action (1499847) on Friday February 11, 2011 @11:25AM (#35174560) Homepage Journal
    And let God sort 'em out!

    But seriously, I want a pet griffin and a pet triceratops with eagle wings. If genetic engineers can give me a steady supply of those, I don't give a damn about what happens in the rest of the cloning world. =)
  • Voted "no limits" (Score:5, Insightful)

    by GameboyRMH (1153867) <gameboyrmh@[ ]il.com ['gma' in gap]> on Friday February 11, 2011 @11:53AM (#35175026) Journal

    I would say serious ethical issues should be raised at whole body clones / crazy hybrids, but I'm not going to draw a hard limit on any of those.

  • But that people like popcorn.
  • I would love to see cloning taken to the extent that Varely rights about in Ophiuchi Hotline [wikipedia.org]. But I would like to see it stop before we get to the point of experiencing Lucas's Clone Wars.
  • Cloning whole humans to harvest their organs in a deliberately inefficient manner.

  • by Phoenix666 (184391) on Friday February 11, 2011 @01:19PM (#35176440)

    I draw the line there. It should be written into the UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights: "No mother-in-laws can be cloned."

  • Cell phones.
  • by MightyMartian (840721) on Friday February 11, 2011 @01:28PM (#35176540) Journal

    Hey! And we've flown in, at great expense, (triple scale, no less, ladies and gentlemen),
    Steve Gad's clone to play the out-chorus on this song...lies really outa-site, in spite of
    thefact that the click track is totally irrelevant to what he's doing now. I in listening to
    the click, yes I'm suffering with the click track right now...this guy is totally out of sync with it,
    but what the fuck. Ed Mann will call him up later, show him the sign. Okay Vinnie, where
    is five?

  • No real choice (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Zedrick (764028) on Friday February 11, 2011 @01:33PM (#35176634)
    I took "No limits, pass the popcorn", not because that's what I actually want but because that's how it's gonna be. If people (corporations) can make money off [whatever], they will. It doesn't matter what moral objections we might have right now, our morals and laws can and will be adjusted.
    • by blair1q (305137)

      Corporations could make money off grinding you up for cattle feed. Or grinding up cattle spines for cattle feed, like they did until a couple of years ago when we manned-up and passed a law to prevent the spread of the mad-cow.

      The law is tougher than corporations. Don't be afraid to use it. And make it bloody expensive for the corporations to get their way about it. Just throwing your vote to them because you think it's inevitable means you're probably not even worth grinding up for cattle feed.

  • Is having sex with your own clone considered INCEST or MASTURBATION?
  • by Locke2005 (849178) on Friday February 11, 2011 @02:01PM (#35177144)
    I like to do what I'm told, and lately a lot of people have been telling me to "Go fuck yourself!"
    • by Hojima (1228978)

      Actually, if you are a male, I think you can replace your Y chromosome with your existing X to make a female version of yourself. And I would have to say that I think the female version of myself would have a nice ass if it takes after me.

  • by petes_PoV (912422) on Friday February 11, 2011 @02:57PM (#35178182)
    Once the technology exists to perform one kind of cloning, all the others will arise, somewhere for some price. Let's see how well crime-scene DNA testing works then.
  • Missing Options (Score:3, Interesting)

    by jdigriz (676802) on Friday February 11, 2011 @04:16PM (#35179552)
    I draw the lines at enslaving full human clones, lobotomizing them, or denying them human rights. Deliberately creating anencephalic clones for spare parts is fine. Creating chimaeras or hybrid clones is ok, I guess, but weird. In most cases there's no real point to that. Do we really want to create a race of mermen who can breathe through gills? Why? We have robots who don't need to breathe at all and don't demand rights or paychecks (yet). Other than that I'd be fine with cloning if only the techniques were more efficient. 4000 failures to one clone does not seem like a mature process to me. And we don't really need more people on this planet, so it's doubly inefficient.
    • Other than that I'd be fine with cloning if only the techniques were more efficient.

      Yeah, I never know how to respond to IRL politcal polls about cloning. "Do you support cloning?" Well, no. The techniques are horribly immature and dangerous. Thalidomide mkII. But that doesn't mean I find cloning itself unethical. Just doing it on humans before it even reliably works on animals.

  • by multimediavt (965608) on Friday February 11, 2011 @04:22PM (#35179622)

    I think genetic manipulation and cloning are the next crowning achievement of human evolution, given that we took ourselves out of the natural path of evolution when we started making fire for ourselves. Will cloning be used for unethical, immoral purposes? Of course! Name one tech that hasn't been. Will the benefits far outweigh the negatives? History will tell, but I firmly believe so. If we can't overcome the environmental challenges of manned interstellar travel through science (including bioscience) we're doomed to a rather short life span as a species.

    GO CLONING!

    • I am waiting for a desktop Genetic Engineering to take off.
      I am guessing there will be DIY kits for sale on ThinkGeek within 20 years.
  • ... you insensitive clone!
  • Alright. I voted no limits.

    Now, when do I get my harem of blue haired anime catgirls?

  • Who here would consider cloning themselves instead of getting married?
  • by flogger (524072) <non@nonegiven> on Friday February 11, 2011 @07:14PM (#35181690) Journal
    Some credit this to asimov... Sing it to "Home on the range."

    O give me a clone of my own flesh and bone,
    With its Y chromosome changed to X.
    And when it is grown, then my own little clone
    Will be of the opposite sex.

    Chorus:
    Clone, clone of my own,
    With its Y chromosome changed to X
    And when I'm alone with my own little clone
    We'll both think of nothing but sex.

    O give me a clone, hear my sorrowful moan,
    Just a clone that is wholly my own.
    And if it's an X of the feminine sex,
    Oh what fun we will have when we're prone.

    (Chorus)

    My heart's not of stone, as I've frequently shown
    When alone with my dear little X
    And after we've dined, I am sure we will find
    Better incest than Oedipus Rex.

    (Chorus)

    Why should such sex vex, or disturb or perplex.
    Or induce a disparaging tone?
    After all, don't you see, since we're both of us me.
    When we're making love, I'm alone.

    (Chorus)

    And after I'm done, she will still have her fun,
    For I'll clone myself twice ere I die.
    And this time without fail, they'll be both of them male,
    And they'll each ravish her by-and-by.
  • doesn't draw lines .... he clones them!
  • by blair1q (305137) on Friday February 11, 2011 @08:24PM (#35182330) Journal

    If cloning an army of yourself is legal and accepted, then we'll end up with armies of Rupert Murdochs, not Mahatma Gandhis.

    Think about it.

  • by CrazyJim1 (809850) on Saturday February 12, 2011 @01:54AM (#35183874) Journal
    The Clone Wars should be stopped.
  • by Just Brew It! (636086) on Saturday February 12, 2011 @11:50AM (#35186474)
    ...at Sarah Palin!

The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth. -- Niels Bohr

 



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