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The 110 Million Dollar Button

Posted by Zonk on Fri Nov 23, 2007 08:29 AM
from the that's-a-big-twinkie dept.
Reservoir Hill writes "The 'I'm Feeling Lucky' button on Google's search page may cost the company up to $110 million in lost ad revenue every year according to a report on American Public Media's Marketplace. Tom Chavez says that since the company makes money selling ads on its search results page, the 1% of users who use the 'I'm Feeling Lucky' button never see Google's ads - the button automatically directs them to their first search result. So why does Google keep the button? Marisa Mayer, Google's vice president responsible for everything on the search page, says that 'it's possible just to become too dry, too corporate, too much about making money' and the 'I'm Feeling Lucky,' button reminds you that 'people here have personality.' Web usability expert Jacob Nielsen says the whimsy serves another business purpose: 'Oh we're just two kind of grad students hanging out and having a beer and having a grand old time,' not you know, 'We are 16,000 people working on undermining your privacy.'"

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  • Small change (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Finallyjoined!!! (1158431) on Friday November 23, @08:32AM (#21453237)
    Has anyone here ever used the "I'm feeling lucky" button. I think I did once in 1999. Usually it's the second or third result that's the most relevant.
    • Re:Small change (Score:5, Informative)

      by mastershake_phd (1050150) on Friday November 23, @08:36AM (#21453261) Homepage
      Has anyone here ever used the "I'm feeling lucky" button. I think I did once in 1999. Usually it's the second or third result that's the most relevant.
       
      Never have, but if you type a phrase into the address bar in Firefox it does the same thing.
      [ Parent ]
    • Re:Small change (Score:5, Informative)

      by bahstid (927038) on Friday November 23, @08:52AM (#21453357)
      I think I use it almost all the time recently - in recent firefox versions I just type what I want in the address bar and it seems to get me where I want, or for more complex things I end up with a more usual search page. For example entering "slashdot wiki" in the address bar takes me to the wikipedia entry about slashdot [wikipedia.org] but "110 million slashdot" gives me a normal, as if using the search bar result with this discussion as top link. Best feature ever.
      [ Parent ]
        • Re:Small change (Score:5, Informative)

          by RalphSleigh (899929) on Friday November 23, @09:45AM (#21453739) Homepage
          One can also type "wp slashdot" in the address bar to preform a wikipedia search. This is default behaviour for firefox.
          [ Parent ]
          • Re:Small change (Score:5, Informative)

            wp... or virtually anything you want. You just have to get to any search form, right click on its input box and select "Add search keyword" (I use Spanish FF, YMMV). Then it asks you for a name, a keyword, and the folder to save the "bookmark". I have wpe for Spanish Wikipedia, urban for urbandictionary, imdb for... imdb, and so on.
            [ Parent ]
          • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

            This is default behaviour for firefox.

            Not here it's not (Windows XP, Firefox 2.0.0.9, both installed fresh about 2 weeks ago). It just goes to Google search for 'wp slashdot'.

    • The best use for "I'm feeling lucky" is when you already know the first result will be the most accurate. For example, searching Wikipedia for a topic. Open google, type "wikipedia slashdot", press tab twice and hit enter and you are instantly at the corre
    • Re:Small change (Score:5, Funny)

      by abscissa (136568) on Friday November 23, @09:20AM (#21453547)
      I never got lucky by pushing a button. Unless "pushing a button" is used metaphorically to include phrases such as "I love you," "you are so beautiful," "just one more drink" etc.
      [ Parent ]
    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      I do. There are certain searches, like search for PuTTY, for which I know it definitely does find what I want.
  • Or.... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by niceone (992278) * on Friday November 23, @08:33AM (#21453239) Journal
    They know that the first result is pretty unlikely to be what you want, so you'll have to come back and do a real search anyway...
  • That's silly. (Score:3, Insightful)

    by JackHoffman (1033824) on Friday November 23, @08:33AM (#21453243)
    Have they accounted for the image benefit of the "I'm feeling lucky" button? Would Google have as many users for normal searches if that button were not there? Accounting will make everything look bad if you tell them to.
    • RTFS (Score:3, Informative)

      This exact point was made in the story's summary:

      Marisa Mayer, Google's vice president responsible for everything on the search page, says that 'it's possible just to become too dry, too corporate, too much about making money' and the 'I'm Feeling Lucky,' button reminds you that 'people here have personality.' Web usability expert Jacob Nielsen says the whimsy serves another business purpose: 'Oh we're just two kind of grad students hanging out and having a beer and having a grand old time,' not you know, 'We are 16,000 people working on undermining your privacy.'"
      • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

        On the other hand, 90% of the sites that came up in my test of "feeling lucky" had Google Ads anyway.
  • $40 Million Dollar Logo (Score:5, Funny)

    by neoform (551705) <ian@newsique.com> on Friday November 23, @08:36AM (#21453253) Homepage
    I bet their logo is too rainbow colored too, must offend homophobes into using a more straight looking site like yahoo. I bet they're losing at least $40 million as a result.
  • It's a subliminal suggestion (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Thanshin (1188877) on Friday November 23, @08:36AM (#21453257)
    Every time you open the page Google tell you, you're feeling lucky.

    They'd add a button for "I'm feeling smart" or "I'm feeling sexy" if they found a way of justifying such a button's presence.
    • by Slashidiot (1179447) on Friday November 23, @08:53AM (#21453365) Journal
      Well, sometimes you just feel lucky. It's fine to have a button to share it with google. Everytime I feel lucky, I go to google and press the button, I'm not searching for anything, I'm just feeling lucky.

      Luckily, they don't have the "I'm feeling bored to death", otherwise i would spend too much time there.
      [ Parent ]
  • Reason? (Score:3, Interesting)

    by SharpFang (651121) on Friday November 23, @08:38AM (#21453269) Homepage Journal
    Google easily found out that one hardly ever uses the button. They removed it. Then users began complaining, where did it go?
    Users don't use it, but they simply feel happier, more secure, having it around.

    Personally I'm missing the "I feel lucky" capability from Firefox search bar. Say, enter a text - a partial URL, a set of 100% sure keywords etc and press shift-enter, or shift-click the magnifying glass. Quite often I KNOW the result will be first, sometimes because I used this search before, sometimes because there's no way anything else could have beaten it. Sometimes I don't remember if the domain was com, org, us, de, net, eu, etc.
      • Re: (Score:2)

        Only if it finds that unlikely to be a valid URL. If it's my URL with an error, it will just go to the error page.
  • Doesn't really cost them that much. (Score:5, Insightful)

    by WibbleOnMars (1129233) on Friday November 23, @08:42AM (#21453307)
    Nah, it doesn't cost them anything like that. That's probably what it would cost if every one of those "feeling lucky" people had instead clicked on an ad, but let's be honest here, that would never have happened.

    Those people who use it are
    (a) people who already know that the result they want is the first one and wouldn't click anything else anyway.
    (b) people doing silly google-hacks, like "miserable failure", or whatever.
    (c) people who will come back any use google's regular search anyway for more results once they've seen the "lucky" one.

    For all these people, using the "feeling lucky" button isn't stopping them clicking on any ads, because they wouldn't click them anyway. In fact, it is actually likely to be adding to their brand awareness of google, and thus making them more likely to come back to google for other searches where they might click on ads.

    So yes, it might lose them a *few* ad clicks on the *actual* search involved, but long term, those people will be back and will click on other ads. Google isn't losing anything from this.
  • AJAX (Score:5, Interesting)

    by nmg196 (184961) * on Friday November 23, @08:43AM (#21453311)
    I've always thought they should add some AJAX so that you know where this button will take you before you actually click it.

    eg if you type in "oxford" the button should change to say "Take me to www.ox.ac.uk"
    • Re:AJAX (Score:4, Funny)

      by WoLpH (699064) on Friday November 23, @09:58AM (#21453845)
      Wouldn't that invalidate the "lucky" part of "I'm feeling lucky"? How is it "feeling lucky" if you know where you're going?
      [ Parent ]
      • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

        They seem to handle it pretty well in Google Suggest:

        http://www.google.com/webhp?complete=1&hl=en [google.com]
      • Re: (Score:2)

        You mean performing actual analysis of your search input every every time you type "f", "o", "r", "d"?
        Plenty of interfaces do this. It's likely they wait for a short pause between letters, just to save totally irrelevant searches.

        For example, I use the Flock browser. If you type into the search bar, it updates a drop-down list with results from Yahoo as y
  • see... (Score:4, Funny)

    by Floritard (1058660) on Friday November 23, @08:52AM (#21453363)

    'We are 16,000 people working on undermining your privacy.'
    And here I thought they were just datamining your privacy.

    And my capcha was confide, spooky...
  • Out of all the people that use that button, they probably already knew the first search result anyway, and wouldn't have even bothered to look at the ad on the first page. If anything, it saves Google on bandwidth (not that I think they have a problem with
  • It's branding. (Score:5, Insightful)

    by slim (1652) <john@ h a r t n u p . net> on Friday November 23, @08:56AM (#21453383) Homepage
    The phrase "I'm feeling lucky" is part of the Google brand, as has been since their search engine was incepted.

    Notice the phrase is also prominent (and useful!) in Picasa.

    The point is, losing it would be a big change to the brand, like making Coke cans with no red on them.
  • Who actually uses that button? I can say that most of my searches, I don't end up going to the first result. If I were to use that button, odds are that I would get to the page, determine it's not what I want... click back, then click the regular search bu
  • Her name's spelled Marissa, not Marisa.
  • french military victories (Score:3, Funny)

    by Krneki (1192201) on Friday November 23, @09:07AM (#21453459)
    How can you forget the french military victories in "I'm Feeling Lucky" ?
  • Needs more risk (Score:5, Funny)

    by WombatDeath (681651) on Friday November 23, @09:11AM (#21453493)
    It's not really a huge gamble that the first result will be relevant. "I feel a vague sense of mild positivity" is probably more appropriate.

    In order to generate a real, winner-takes-all atmosphere of living on the edge, an element of risk should be introduced. For instance, a 60% chance of going to the first search result, a 30% chance of going to tubgirl, a 9% chance of having your identity stolen and a 1% chance of having bomb-making instructions downloaded to your machine and a tip-off email sent to the relevant authorities.
  • Googlewhack Spam (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Dynamoo (527749) * on Friday November 23, @09:17AM (#21453531) Homepage
    One good reason to remove the "I'm feeling lucky" feature would be Googlewhack Spam [symantec.com]. Spammers create a page with a unique phrase on it, and then send out spam with the special "I'm feeling lucky" URL, e.g. the URL http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&c2coff=1&safe=off&q=coelacanth+sharpener&btnG=Search&btnI= [google.com] actually takes you to Dave Gorman [davegorman.com]. Spammers send out emails with the Google URL in which actually redirects to the spammer site - this helps to foil spam filters and also causes problems for spam reporting tools which misidentify the spammer as Google.


    It can be pretty easy to foil, as this post [shoemoney.com] on Shoemoney demonstrates.

    And yes, you too can have fun in /. with Google queries for goatse.cx, tubgirl and 2girls1cup.

  • heh? (Score:3, Interesting)

    by someone1234 (830754) on Friday November 23, @09:19AM (#21453543)
    I never click on any ads, so Google should forbid me to use its search engine?
  • Maybe it's because I'm a control freak or because I'm a pessimist or something else, but I've never used the Lucky Button. I'd love to see a psychological profile of the people who use the Lucky Button regularly.

    Someone, quick, call Jakob Nielsen! We need
  • usa-what? (Score:2, Insightful)

    Ahhh Jakob, lol. Web usability evangelist is more like it. "I'm feeling lucky" (as some have mentioned) is sometimes actually a pretty nice shortcut, it's also a fun way to spend an evening. I never would have discovered there was a band called "Johnny
  • How long (Score:3, Insightful)

    by hcdejong (561314) <h.c.de.jong@xmsn e t . nl> on Friday November 23, @09:25AM (#21453583)
    until moneygrubbing investors pressure Google into ditching the button?

    The 'maximize profit at the expense of everything including customer experience' really gets to me sometimes.
  • What Jacob Nielsen said (Score:5, Funny)

    by tie_guy_matt (176397) on Friday November 23, @09:28AM (#21453605)
    Hold on a minute. So is he saying that they put the "I'm feeling lucky" feature in just so we don't notice that google is really "16,000 people working on undermining your privacy?" So they make us think they are "just two kind of grad students hanging out and having a beer and having a grand old time" so we don't notice that the true purpose of google is to undermine our privacy?

    Time to put on the tin foil hat -- I am on to you now google! You just made my list!
  • solution! (Score:3, Funny)

    by yakumo.unr (833476) on Friday November 23, @09:31AM (#21453637) Homepage
    Next they'll replace it with "I'm feeling gullible" and make sure it only ever links through to a page that already contains Google ads ;o)
  • Privacy? (Score:3, Informative)

    by Dirtside (91468) on Friday November 23, @09:49AM (#21453773) Homepage Journal

    'Oh we're just two kind of grad students hanging out and having a beer and having a grand old time,' not you know, 'We are 16,000 people working on undermining your privacy.'"

    Undermining my privacy? The only information Google is able to get abut me is what I do online -- and not much of that. I wipe cookies once in a while, and that's the only reliable way they have to track me on other sites. Take off the tinfoil hat, Nielsen.

    Of course, to throw them off the scent, I randomly view Oprah's website, NASCAR videos, and horse porn once in a while.
  • Tough Job (Score:5, Funny)

    by PinkyDead (862370) on Friday November 23, @10:22AM (#21454009)

    Marisa Mayer, Google's vice president responsible for everything on the search page
    "1 input box, check. 2 buttons, check. 6 links check and 1 image, check. Right, I'm off home."
    • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

      The calculation is probably pretty simple: 1% of people click that button results in 1% of 10 billion US$ revenue. This assumes only that almost all the 10 billion revenue is made with search ads (which is not true), but otherwise is a fair assumption. -B
    • Re: (Score:2)

      Easy. It's really a 1500 MW Google Heavy-Duty Supercolliding Superbutton.