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Comment Re:zealots ^2 (Score 1) 248

Please allow me to revise my response to:
"The Ice Age question was a potential concern for an indefinite future of unknown timing. Again this uncertainty was a driver for initial funding on major climate science."

-- Yes, the climate cycles that lead to ice ages in the past and would have normally caused their return was being studied, But the timescales were in the tens of thousands of years, and once the impact of humanity in greenhouse gases, deforestation, etc, was taken into account it completely swamped the natural cycles.

Whether the next ice age would have come in five or ten thousand years without human intervention is an interesting but purely academic question. Global warming is a problem for our children, not the next millennium.

Comment Re:zealots ^2 (Score 1) 248

"you obviously weren't there in my grad school. The Ice Age question was a potential concern for an indefinite future of unknown timing. Again this uncertainty was a driver for initial funding on major climate science."
Give a citation, not an anecdote with not one verifiable fact.

"There is an element of changing perspectives, and repeating fashions here."
The "changing perspective" is that what was highly speculative in the 70s is now based on incontrovertible peer-reviewed evidence collected over decades by thousands of scientists. Yet you argue that uncited statements made by unnamed people 50 years ago invalidates any research presented since.

"And you slightly demonstrate my thesis of angry dissonant crowds "
You called people who disagree with you "zealots" while those who do agree with you are "realists". Then you tut tut at people getting annoyed at your labels. Sorry, arrogant hypocrites do make me angry. It's a character flaw, I admit.

Comment Re:zealots ^2 (Score 1) 248

First you say: "Angry CAGW zealots meet climate realists"
Ten you hypocritically complain: "simple denigration of oppositional views and their holders is not going to be effective"

"I have a much harder science background"... in climate science? I studied physics and computer science. And I know enough to know what I'm not an expert in.

Also, the repeated talking point "the principal criticism of CO2 was its likely lack of adequate effect to prevent an Ice Age" is a complete fabrication by denialists, based on a few Sunday supplement stories, not peer-reviewed scientific articles. And that was 50 years ago. We have collected a bit more data since then.

Cite real sources or STFU.
 

Comment Re:Awesome! (Score 1) 208

"look for them here in earth. Use them to sieve the thousands of stories about aliens"

That truly would be a complete waste of money.
All these loonie stories kidnapping, anal probes, etc, etc, is why serious SETI gets treated as a joke.

Anyway,it's been done.
The answer is 99% proven nothing happened, 1% unknown.

Use your brain. If aliens are visiting us with such frequency, WHERE IS THE PHYSICAL EVIDENCE?
Any artefact made off-earth will have a different isotopic ratio, even if we don't know what it is.
Where is one drop of alien sweat with their DNA or equivalent?

Comment Re:Futile search? (Score 1) 208

"If the search for extraterrestrial life leads to that life deciding to destroy all life on earth, would it
still be a "good investment" ?"

The proposed plan is for listening only, not broadcasting a "here we are" signal,.

If there are indeed malignant and hostile aliens who extermiante every other species that pops up, it would be even more important to know all we can about them.

Comment Re:Why isn't sandboxing standard practice? (Score 4, Insightful) 25

People have been asking that FOR 20 FUCKING YEARS
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http://www.f-secure.com/v-desc...
Virus:W32/Concept
Virus:W97M/Concept also known as Word Prank Macro or WW6Macro - is a macro virus which has been written with the Microsoft Word v6.x macro language. It has been reported in several countries, and seems to have no trouble propagating in the wild.

WM/Concept used to be extremely widespread during 1995-1997.
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I remember back in 2000, my boss asking "How do I run this "I Love You" macro someone sent me?"

Word macros were cool and useful, until Microsoft decided it was clever to embed them in the document.

And they did the same fucking thing with "Windows Media"
And USB autoexec

Always prioritising some gimmicky shit that allowed advertisers to push crap over security, and allowed any asshole to take over your PC by getting you to open a document or media file.
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