GoPro Slashes 15% of Workforce, Shuts Down Entertainment Division (variety.com) 94
GoPro has announced that it will lay off more than 200 employees and freeze hiring, amounting to a reduction of about 15% of its workforce. As part of the restructuring, the company is also shutting down its entertainment division. In addition, the company said president Tony Bates will be leaving the company. From a report on Variety: Also Wednesday, GoPro also said Black Friday camera unit sales were up more than 35% year-over-year at leading U.S. retailers. GoPro said its Hero5 Black camera has been the best-selling digital-imaging device in the U.S. since it launched Oct. 2, citing NPD Group data. GoPro shares climbed more than 4% in premarket trading Wednesday on the news. The move appears to spell the end of the struggling company's ambitions to branch out beyond device sales into the entertainment biz, which had included plans to produce original shows. The GoPro entertainment unit has been led by Ocean MacAdams, who previously held programming posts at MTV, Warner Music Group, and the Madison Square Garden Co., after Zander Lurie left in January to become CEO of SurveyMonkey. The division at one point had about 200 staffers, including Bill McCullough, who produced award-winning sports documentaries for HBO, and Joe Lynch, who previously led Time Inc.'s live-streaming initiatives.
Possible solution (Score:5, Funny)
Sell GoPros to the low-blood-in-the-brain pot smokers from the previous article, who will make crazier videos and in turn promote the GoPro brand? /be a hero
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The problem is the price. $400 (or more) for a sport camera is a bit pricey for many people, including me. Although some models are cheaper than that, most are too much $$$.
I have a GearPro that I bought for less than half the price of a GoPro, and mine works great. It is mounted to my bicycle helmet that I wear while commuting to work on my bike. The video quality is amazing.
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You make videos of your commute to work??
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This is what's wrong with millennials.
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This is what's wrong with millennials.
Fuck you and your ignorant assumptions.
I'm 50, and the only reason I make videos of my commute to work is to have video evidence when some a-hole is paying more attention to their phone than to the road. The 2nd day of using the GearPro, someone almost ran into me because they ran a stop sign. Unfortunately, I was still learning how to mount the device so it gets good video, and my video of the incident only showed the road in front of me because the camera was pointed too far down.
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The 2nd day of using the GearPro, I almost ran into someone because I wasn't paying attention to the road because I was fiddling with my camera like a moron.
Fixed that for you.
The 2nd day of posting on /. I spelled, "Go", incorrectly because I was more concerned with posting as AC than looking at my fucking keyboard. Moron.
Fixed that for you.
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Hell yea. I do the same for my motorcycle trips to work and back and general running around. Some dill-hole pulling in front of you or running you down can do a he-said/she-said unless you have video proof.
[John]
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Great Idea.
I had a motorcycle accident in 2013, and since I was recording all my commuting I had a video proof. Insurence guy saw the video, and found the car driver at fault (it was very clear).
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You make videos of your commute to work??
I do. I use a $39 dashcam that I bought on Amazon. If I am in an accident, and it is the other driver's fault, I will have a record of exactly what happened. If it is my fault, I can quickly detach the camera from my windshield and hide it in the glove compartment.
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You make videos of your commute to work??
I do. I use a $39 dashcam that I bought on Amazon. If I am in an accident, and it is the other driver's fault, I will have a record of exactly what happened. If it is my fault, I can quickly detach the camera from my windshield and hide it in the glove compartment.
I do. I use a $39 dashcam that I bought on Amazon. If I am in an accident, and it is the other driver's fault, I will have a record of exactly what happened. If it is my fault, I can quickly detach the camera from my windshield and throw it into the other person's car so they get the ticket.
FIFY
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Those are very helpful with insurance companies when someone crashes into you.
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I got my Silver as a Peer Award from work or I wouldn't have purchased one. Same with the 42" TV. Too bad they killed those awards. Next year I was hunting for a car :D
[John]
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I get a $25 gift card to BiLo each year.
Pigs (Score:2)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]
Who needs a homing beacon to find it again ?
Just ask the pigs from the pig-pen where it fell...
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The price might have been sustainable if equally good or even better models from other manufacturers didn't cost a fraction as much. The reality is that such cameras are practically commodity items now. Billions of cheap phones with 1080p cameras have made the sensors and optics extremely cheap.
They remind me a lot of TomTom. When sat nav was relatively new TomTom units were expensive but worth it. Now even a basic unit is adequate, but not as good as the phone you already own, and indeed the TomTom app is
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Now even a basic unit is adequate, but not as good as the phone you already own, and indeed the TomTom app is pretty cheap.
I've not used a TomTom in years, but my memory was it sucked much less than my phone. I think they have much better GPS antennas, and possibly more power hungry but better gps chips.
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The point here is that commodity products, even with significant functional downsides will beat more expensive specialty products most of the time.
Yes, TomToms have a better GPS chip and antenna. But the smart phone works pretty well. Yes, GoPros can survive reentry from orbit but if you're just skateboarding you don't need that sort of build quality.
GoPro lost it's niche and then was unable to push the technology (4K, 5K video, decent battery). Wild expansion into everybody else's niche probably sounded
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I admittedly don't have a huge sample size, but just based on a couple of examples, entering addresses in standalone GPS units always seemed way more difficult than on a phone..
e.g. you can't enter 1234 Whichever Road, Wherever City
you have to enter each specific thing individually, with a bad touch keyboard, possibly in a different order on different brands' devices.
I know they often made/make the same kind of complaints about in car nav on the CNET On Cars video podcasts.
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GoPro is an overly-priced digital video recorder. What made it become a successful product is that it includes a waterproof acrylic case
No what made it a successful product was that when it launched it was entirely in a niche with no other cameras in such a small form factor with such a high quality.
The problem is the wider industry has caught up. Even only 2 generations ago the Hero 3 was leaps and bounds ahead of the competition in terms of image quality and capabilities. But unfortunately for them that too has eroded.
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GoPro took advantage of technological advancements shrinking the size of a quality video camera to something the size of a webcam, ditching videotape in favor of flash cards. That reduced the size of the waterproof housing needed, allowing them to make the whole thing for a few hundr
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And rightly so (Score:4, Interesting)
GoPro equipment is madly expensive. You can buy a knockoff such as an SJCAM with similar capabilities for a small fraction of the price. If you buy GoPro, you're paying out the ass for the name.
I got one as a gift, back when "action cameras" were a new thing and I was still rigging up conventional digital cameras, and it failed for no apparent reason a couple years ago (my best guess is maybe heat from the sun killed it, although it didn't have any telltale LCD rainbowing). I already had a lot of gen1 GoPro accessories so I bought one used to replace it, but next time I have to replace or upgrade I'm going to go with a knockoff.
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The knockoffs always lag behind in features, if you want those bleeding-edge features you'll have to shell out the big bucks. Modern action cams are all ridiculously overpowered for non-professional use anyway IMO. I still record my videos in 720p.
The SJCAM 5000X Elite is the closest to the Hero5 Black - SJCAM's cameras seem to be pretty reliable, some friends have had good luck with them, and that's what I'll probably go to next (they use the same mounts as a GoPro so I won't have to change those). If it b
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Problem is the knockoffs don't seem to match GoPro in my experiences.
SJCAM's newest SJ6 Legend can only do 60Hz at 1080p, 30fps at 2560x1440 and for the 4K mode it says 24Hz but then also says (Interpolated) which probably means it's something more like 15Hz and being motion interpolated to a higher output rate like a TV can interpolate a 24 or 30Hz signal to 120Hz.
A GoPro can do 240Hz 720p, 120Hz 1080p, 60Hz at 2704x1524 (2.7K) and true 30Hz at 4K.
An action cam at least for me should be able to do high fra
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My image quality requirements are admittedly not very high, my 1st-gen GoPro is still doing everything I need in that area. The features I'd like and don't have are things like remote computer control and live streaming, running on external power and maybe H.265 support.
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The problem here is: how many people really care about having those high-end specs, and are willing to pay $$$$ for them? Sure, if you're a professional skier or whatever, you'll want the Rolls-Royce of action cameras, but if you're just a weekend warrior who wants to record his bike ride, a knockoff for a fraction of the price is going to be all you really want or need. It sounds like this company massively overestimated their potential customer base and expanded too much, and are now finding out that hi
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Well GoPro does sell a $199 model. Perhaps they need a $99 model as well?
Why can't they be like Canon, or Nikon, or Sony, etc. These companies sell cheap point and shoot cameras to the average masses, but they still continuously research and make new full-frame DSLR models as well for those who want quality.
I downhill ski, water ski, scuba dive, hike, mountain bike, etc and I love going back and editing my videos later and I find the high frame rate and super clear 4K recordings I get from my GoPro let me
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Well GoPro does sell a $199 model. Perhaps they need a $99 model as well?
You got it in one. In the little square form factor, with 1080p60 as the maximum recording quality, and with video passthru for FPV. One camera to rule all other cheap cameras. They'd outsell hotcakes ten to one.
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The Hero is listing at $130 on Amazon.
I don't want a Hero, I want a smaller and lighter cam. If I thought it would work worth a piss I'd use a BitEye (even though it only has 1080p30) but the reviews are quite uneven, and I'd like something with some accessory support. I'm willing to make a gimbal body for the BitEye, but I just don't think it's worth the effort.
A $100 camera with one lens setting and no high speed recording in the body of gopro's smaller $200 camera would be ideal, but it has to have the CVBS passthrough that camera is missing
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very high resolutions on tiny screens: utter nonsense! Fucking millennials!
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Sure, if you're a professional skier or whatever, you'll want the Rolls-Royce of action cameras, but if you're just a weekend warrior who wants to record his bike ride, a knockoff for a fraction of the price is going to be all you really want or need.
A weekend warrior who spent $3,500 on a carbon fiber bicycle or set of skis might be convinced otherwise.
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GoPro equipment is madly expensive.
Yes quality costs money. Show us a current camera with side by side comparison of similar video quality and features for a lower price. You can argue that people don't need 4k video at 60fps but that's changing the argument to suit your conclusion.
my best guess is maybe heat from the sun killed it
That's actually interesting since my GoPro has survived several heat related events which I thought would kill it. The worst of which was an starved fire training exercise where you sit in a shipping container and start a large fire on one side. When the air runs
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GoPro equipment is madly expensive. (snip)
Mine was more like "Mildly annoyed". Or maybe, "A bit put off"
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Good (Score:4, Interesting)
Now if they just change the terms of service that the license that the user grants to GoPro is just for their site and that any content uploaded by the user will not be used anywhere else without the express written permission from the user, would give them a perpetual low cost advertising medium.
Most people producing video have the occasional lucky shot that attracts attention but the people who take the time to edit and tell a story are not likely to post it on a site where the terms of service allows them to monetize the video any way and anywhere they choose.
Almost.... (Score:3)
Well, except for the iPhone.
And the Samsung Galaxy line...
And probably the Pixel.
But if we exclude multi-function imaging devices....
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Phones are not imaging devices and their cameras suck donkey balls.
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Yeah, GoPro (Score:5, Interesting)
Got one as a present. Videos look nice butc I learn that;
Getting quality footage is hard and gets in the way of the activity.
I'm not a cameraman and should never quit my day job to become one.
There's always some fucking annoying mount to get, fix, attach or remove.
Batties, storage and lens dirty are always an issue.
There's far better options online and most people would not care much to see yours because "awesome" stuff is like garbage these days.
There's a fuckton of shit to do with the money a GoPro is sold for these days.
I am not a hero and neither is 99.999% of people.
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Burma Shave.
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The drone is good and a good variation on their action camera line. The issue that it is is that the new DJI is so much better.
Well, that and the Karma had a nasty habit of loosing power and falling out of the sky.
From an optics point of view, the newer DJI's don;t have anything like the lens distortion a GoPro has. Assuming that the Karma was a near perfect beast, the DJI competitor, the Mavic, has the latest in DJI optics and the image is great.
Plus there is the cost: the Mavic is about the same price as the Karma was - but with the Karma you still needed to buy a GoPro if you didn't already have one. The Mavic has the camera i
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Hah, I love the GoPro video from my dog's back!
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That's why exists cinema/photography courses, you know...
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Getting quality footage is hard and gets in the way of the activity.
You're doing it wrong, and if an accessory or strap or anything is even remotely difficult to use, you're doing that wrong too.
There's far better options online
Oh?
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If you're buying something like a GoPro in hopes of shooting quality video and becoming in Internet star, then yeah there's a 99.999% chance you're going to be disappointed.
But if you're buying it to record family outings and personal events for senti
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While I do agree it's important to note that the only reason we're taking pictures and recording everything is because in past decades it was much harder.
Once upon a time to take a picture the entire family would line-up and dress for the "special occasion". A picture used to be special, a short film as well but that's not the case any more. Now we have a state that there's so much data that we're bound to disregard most of it.
Imagine 5 generations ahead where we have tens of thousands of pictures and s
Sometimes a company does one thing well. (Score:2)
When a company does one thing really, really well, they should probably stick to that. GoPros really are the best action cameras around. That's what they're known for. If the company owner wanted to start a side business creating original entertainment content that's fine, but it shouldn't have been under the GoPro name, or connected directly to the company.
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Pretty much, yep.
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> GoPros really are the best action cameras around.
No, they're really not, that's their marketing department. You probably weren't around for FocusGate, when they shipped out tons of 3+'s that had serious focusing issues and refused to admit to it for the longest time.
Will anyone record the meeting? (Score:5, Funny)
Apple future (Score:1)
Positive spin (Score:2)
I love how GoPro keeps trying to put a positive spin to it.... of course, those statements were made for shareholders.
"GoPro also said Black Friday camera unit sales were up more than 35% year-over-year at leading U.S. retailers"
Up more than 35% on Black Friday and in the year they finally released a new line after two years... that's little to nothing. Last year they had no new products to show, and the hype was already dead... I'd say a 35% increase from last year is still a defeat - GoPro Hero 5 launch d
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