New "Terminator" Trilogy Planned

Ant writes "Dark Horizons reports after much talk and posturing over the future of "The Terminator" franchise/series in recent years, something surprising has happened: The Halcyon Company has acquired the franchise rights to the popular movie series and intends to make a new trilogy that would anchor their movie company..."

Great

Another dead horse to beat.

Re:Great

Yeah, glad they didn't do that to Star Trek...

Re:Great

On the plus side, the Terminator franchise wrapped itself up pretty cleanly with T2, so if you don't like the new movies you can just ignore them. It's not like, say, the X-Men movie series, in which the first two movies set left a lot of plot threads unresolved only to be completely shit on with the third movie.

Re:Great

The Hollywood trend is to secure money by rehashing proven hits of the past

The trend of any business is to make the most of your successful products. After all, you never know when you'll need the money, your next product might bomb and cost you millions.

I don't see how film franchises are any worse than TV shows that drag on for years and years, or comics that go on for decades. Just because a film uses old characters and an old premise doesn't mean it can't be entertaining.

Re:Great

I don't see how film franchises are any worse than TV shows that drag on for years and years, or comics that go on for decades. Just because a film uses old characters and an old premise doesn't mean it can't be entertaining.

I agree. Some great films have been sequels. On the other hand TV shows that drag on for years and years (hell, many get tired after only a season or two) are indeed just as bad as many sequels. Think of how many TV shows are ruined as they run on: the characters become caricatures of their original selves, and everything has to become "more" and "better" season after season till things are bordering on the truly absurd. The same is often true for movies -- just consider the previews for the new Die Hard movie. Fresh ideas an fresh starts have a lot to offer.

Re:Great

Another dead horse to beat.

well, you think it's dead, and you pointedly turn your back on it and clasp your love interest in a long and passionate kiss that gives it just enough time to rear up on its hind legs and then start galloping toward you out of the flaming wreckage with its beady red eyes all aglow. Terminator 4: OMG PONIES

Who needs Arnold?

Start with the story of John Connor and his wife, of course, set in the future.

Re:Who needs Arnold?

FTA:

"Neither creator James Cameron or original star Arnold Schwarzenegger will be involved in the project, which picks up with John Connor in his 30s leading what's left of the human race against the machines."

Re:Who needs Arnold?

"Neither creator James Cameron or original star Arnold Schwarzenegger will be involved in the project"

I can predict the future on this one without time travel.

Re:Who needs Arnold?

I have seen the future, and it's direct to DVD

Re:Who needs Arnold?

I agree. As much as I enjoyed the original Terminator movies, the background plot of John Connor always seemed more interesting to me and I always felt a bit disappointed that it wasn't developed further. The part in T1 when Michael Biehn's character (Reese) falls asleep under the bridge and has a flashback dream was an incredibly cool sequence.

Re:Who needs Arnold?

[Spoiler alert]
Episode 4: Total Recall
After modifying part of skynet, John Connor managed to recall all robots back to HQ where he short-circuited their Sony power unit until they swell and explode. Towards the end the program managed to install itself on a retrotype animal robot.. something called the AIBO

Episode 5: Kindergarten Cop
Turns out before the Terminator was sent back in time to help young John, the old John sent another robot called the Eraser to assist toddler John in finding little Miles Bennett Dyson. The SkynetAIBO was also sent back in time and ate all of John's erasers, including the one that smells really nice. SkynetAIBO returns home sick from eating too much erasers.

Episode 6: The Last Action Hero
The future world is now finally at peace. Robots are again used as servants and slaves without soul. John refused to lead the nation of United States and settled to govern the state of CA-90210.
One day he suffers from major headache when a hotel chain heiress Barcelona Hotlin begged him to get her off her impending imprisonment due to excessive velocity transport without authorization clearance. He agreed to pardon her in exchange with sexual favor, which the SkynetAIBO secretly taped and sold all over the Interweb. SkynetAIBO becomes rich and builds a new ROBOTIC EMPIRE. (pitch to the next series of trilogy)

[/spoiler]

In soviet beowulf clusters of old people in korea

I'll be back.

Premonition.

I just had this awful premonition of a new model of Terminator...

...It can't be bargained with, can't be reasoned with, and it absolutely will not stop. Ever. Until you are dead...

"Meesa be back!"

Re:Premonition.

I know I'd go back in time prevent that movie from ever being made!

Re:Premonition.

"Meesa be back!"

I always thought I was too old to be spooked by such a simple thing as the written word but you sir have guaranteed I'll be having nightmares tonight. {shudder}

Worth going back in time to prevent:

Terminator: The Animated Series.

Re:Worth going back in time to prevent:

Oh, fuck it: Terminator: The Musical.

To be fair

He did say 'I'll be back'.

OMG is the George Lucas Effect!

Terminator IV: A new John Connor Terminator V: The Robots Strike Back Terminator VI: The Return of the Terminator

Re:OMG is the George Lucas Effect!

I know this is a joke, but still I'd bet a George Lucas style Terminator would turn out pretty awesome. The francise is coming off of a low note, ie T3, and with nothing but the future war setting left, it would look pretty sweet. All the battle sequences from episode II and III were rather spectacular in my opinion, and a future war Terminator movie done in the same style might be the kind of new direction the francise needs. It's not like there needs to be much character story, everyone's pretty much setup in their relations to the main players, and its not as if a political side story would appear in the middle an extinction war. So, that means, no romance plot, no starchy politics, and a freaking pre-destined on-the-rails plotline (thanks a lot T3.) So what's left to make the movie? SFX, explosions, creative war machines, more explosions, fancy CGI/models, and zetaflops worth of more explosions! A George Lucas style Terminator 4 would rock!

Re:OMG is the George Lucas Effect!

Slashdot V: A new hope
Slashdot VI: Death of the AC

We were all thinking it... I'm just saying it ;)

Enough

Enough with the trilogies already. why can't we have a single good movie and just let that be?

Re:Enough

Because trilogies make more money, duh.

Hollywood only cares about quality product to the extent that they need the occasional quality product in order to keep the cash pouring in.

Re:Enough

Enough with the trilogies already. why can't we have a single good movie and just let that be?

Why? What was wrong with Highlander II and Highlander III? Errr, OK, bad example. Matrix II and Matrix III?? Hmmm. Alien3 and Alien Resurection??? OK, I give up.

Re:Enough

> Why? What was wrong with Highlander II and Highlander III? Errr, OK, bad example. Matrix II and Matrix III?? Hmmm. Alien3 and Alien Resurection??? OK, I give up.

Well, IMHO, Star Wars IV was the best in that series :-)

Re:Enough

Books are the one thing I have not seen the phenomenon in however. The reason may be that there is already so much variety, and that the major book readers don't purchase such worthless media.

Hm.. I'm sorry, maybe it's because I just rolled out of bed and I'm a bit tired, but I can't tell if you're trying to be sarcastic or not... *books* don't have trilogies??? When was the last time you went to a book store my friend?

Trilogies

The advantage of a well-done trilogy is that the first film sets up certain expectations regarding characters and plot. The second film then plays with those expectations in a surprising and suspenseful way. And when the third film wraps everything up, you feel a satisfaction that can only come from having lived with the characters in your imagination for several years.

Trilogies II: Trilogier

...or at least, that's what I used to think. Then I found out that A TRILOGY KILLED MY FATHER--and it's COMING AFTER ME NEXT!!!!!

Trilogies III: Trilectric Boogoloo

Well, that was close. The trilogy that killed my father almost killed me, but fortunately, I was saved by a bunch of fuzzy, cute merchandising opportunities that had absolutely nothing to do with the tone or content of my first two posts. Whew!

What I really want

Isn't more Terminator but another Alien movie based on the book that should have been Alien 3 i.e. Alien Earth Hive. That would seriously kick ass.

That would anchor their company...

.... in POO.

After repeated viewings, I'm of the opinion that Cameron's what makes the franchise. We didn't need a third movie (what the hell was up with that, anyway?) - much like we didn't need a Highlander 2 (or 3, etc).

If they're good, that's one thing - but Terminator without Cameron is like, say... The League Of Extraordinary Gentlemen without Allen Moore. Or Watchmen if it were written by Rob Liefeld.

The only upcoming "sequel" sci-fi I'm looking forward to is Babylon 5 : The Lost Tales. It's more B5, and most importantly, it's still under the control of Straczynski.

I trust in creators, not franchises.

Terminator never explored the post-nuclear world

We don't know that much about what skynet did after it took over, how the humans fought, what happened elsewhere in the world.. this is what T3 should have been, but wasn't. There's probably enough there for at least one more movie, but I don't know about three.

Will it involve Arnold?

Not for nothing, but the man is nearly 60 years old. Can you really plan any more trilogies around the guy's portrayal of an immortal android who never gets old or tired at this point?

Maybe if the last installment is a crossover with Indiana Jones, where they fight over Jello in a nursing home..

Re:Will it involve Arnold?

Which bit of "Neither creator James Cameron or original star Arnold Schwarzenegger will be involved in the project" are you struggling with?

loser movie makers can only copycat

Too few original ideas these days. Stil there are plenty of brain-dead 15-years to buy the product as we saw last week for lame three-quel comic book product.

Plot for Terminator 4

All hope for humankind is almost lost. John Connor is on the ropes, he and his band of rebels have almost been completely eliminated by the latest rev of the Terminator line, the T666. However, like a bolt from the heavens, the real saviour of the human race emerges. It is non other than Darl McBride. It turns out that SkyNet has at least 1024 instances of SCO owned IP in it's source code. Darl is able to tie SkyNet up in litigation for years, allowing Connor to regroup ....

T4

T4: The return of the return of the machines.
T5: The return of the return of the return of the machines.
T6: The return of the return of the return of the return of the machines.

I could work in Hollywood.

Re:T4

T7: Stack overflow.

Problem

Anchors drag things down, or at least keep them where they are. I think they need a better analogy. Perhaps something to do with cars...

It must be said...

I'll be back, and back, and back.

uh oh

Terminator without Arnold is like bread without butter.
The latest Terminator trilogy might anchor their movie company but the ship can still sink and come to rest beside the anchor.
I got this great idea which might help revive the trilogy: why not set the last trilogy in time before the first set of movies and ....

Wow.

I don't know, did this strike anyone else as:
"Well, we can't squeeze anything else out of this baggy wrinkled udder, sure you guys can have it." [tosses fetid movie corpse at eager lackeys.]

I hope they make it a love story chick flick

With vaguely homoerotic overtones, like Spiderman. Because Hollywood hasn't turned everything into shit just yet.

But to be fair, T-3 was pretty close to that. All that they need to do is fill the cast with whatever interchangeable hunks and chicks are in whatever is hot on the WB at that time.

Oh yeah and did I mention that Sarah Conners has to be black?

arnold?!!?

who's interested in that geriatric?!!?

a more pertinent question is...(call me a shallow geek if you wish)

...will the fit babe terminator from T3 be in it?

Spoilers

Terminator IV: A New Hope (more of a "hacker movie" like Swordfish) As human resistance slowly fails, it falls upon hackers to discover a decription code for the robots programming which happens to be: 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 Rebels win the day. Terminator V: Sony sues back (a lawyer movie) The robots sue the rebels of IP infringment. A climactic point is reached when John Connor is on the stand. The defense displays pictures of various robots (1 at a time) and asks the question, "Are these the motherf*ckers?" to which John angrily screams "YES!" Terminator VI: Return of the Sequels ...

Anchor their company?

As in drag it to the bottom of the sea and prevent it from moving forward?

Dark Horse Terminator Comics were good

It would be good if they mined the old Terminator comics put out by Dark Horse. They were set in the future, following the rag-tag human resistance as they tried to survive and fight back, dealing with the creeping paranoia that some of their number are secretly Terminators out to destroy them from within. I'd appreciate bringing the series back to its creepier roots.

Where is the new SciFi?

Fuck, this is dreary. Even if it isn't that good can we have some new Sci-Fi?

Something that isn't a "franchise". Some that is not Star Wars? Or Star Trek

Or whatever it is Hollywood has already made dozens of movies of?

Fuck ANY thing without a number at the end!

Lame

they should of sticked to the comic strip where it takes off in the future and the last attack on skynet and not start another bullshit movie where you knw the end because DUUUHH they need to make it to the time machine.

For this work i would start exactly when they sent connor through the time machine and realize that the future has not changed and then go from there.

They should let Peter Jackson make every scfi-fi and fantsay movies for the next decade, make it a law, at least we'll get good casting and good storyline

I'd pay to see...

Terminator vs. Jar Jar.

What a stupid idea

Personally, I love the first two. They're impressive, action-packed, and scary. I never even bothered to see the third one because it looked like it was going to suck right out of the gate. Turns out I was right.

The problem with T3 and any future project is that they're doing it for the bucks, not because there's any story worth telling. When it's about the money, the entire project will be permeated with a workman-like attitude. "Hey, don't complain, you're getting paid." "It doesn't have to get good, it just has to be finished." "Why invest any of myself in this? Nobody cares anyway."

So anything the studios put out will suck, suck, suck. But there's a theoretical question, is there anything left to explore in the Terminator universe? To that I would have to say yes: the machine war. They already did time travel in the first two movies. Doing it again in the third was a stupid and hackneyed idea. So, what stories are there to tell in the future? This guy has some ideas.

http://www.goingfaster.com/term2029/contents.html [goingfaster.com]

His birth of skynet story here is suitably terrifying and well-written. You could just imagine what something like this would look like on film.

http://www.goingfaster.com/term2029/skynet.html [goingfaster.com]

Any future Terminator storyline should discard T3, start with a new numbering scheme, and go with all new characters. The Machine War. The rise of the human resistence. The eventual defeat of Skynet. Not even a hint of time travel until the end of the third movie where John Connor leads the assault on the Skynet time portal. Use some CGI to make a new actor's face look like Kyle Reese from the first film. They enter the portal room. The instruments say that something has already gone back. Kyle strips down and goes through the portal. Connor orders the device reset for another transfer. "Wait, we're still here, aren't we? Didn't Kyle save you?" "Yeah, but Skynet sent two back. Prep the T800 we captured." Why only send one each time? Why not send more soldiers? They have the facility, they could send back an army. "Because only four were ever sent back in time, one human, three terminators. It worked out well enough for us then, I see no reason to risk changing things now."

Bah. The new Terminators are going to suck shit through a straw.

Suggested Titles

Okay, so we've already got -
- The Terminator
- Terminator 2: Judgement Day
- Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines

Followed by -
- Terminator 4: Inescapable Truth
- Terminator 5: ?????
- Terminator 6: Profit!*


* The working title for "Terminator 6: Profit!" is "Please, oh please, watch this movie." I can't wait for some asshat to start with the whole "social contract" crap and how we, the good little consumers, have an obligation to go to the theaters and finance whatever garbage they're shoveling this week. Think of the children of the executive producer!

Halcyon? Don't they mean Haylon?

I mean they must be sniffing some sort of gas to think that anything coming out will be blockbusters.

But then again it doesn't have to be fantastic or great or even mediocre to be a success. It just has to perform well enough to turn a profit. And that is good for them.

Hmmm...lemme have a sniff at that gas, too.

tell it from the point of view of sensenet

sensenet becoming self aware is what sets the whole shebang off in the first place right? that's always been the most interesting aspect of the story to me. why not tell the story from the point of view of the AI?

Why T3 Sucked

A public service announcement.

http://www.goingfaster.com/term2029/t3review.html [goingfaster.com]

A review of

T3: Rise of the Machines

or the alternate title

"T3: WE REWROTE T2: JUDGMENT DAY AND TRIED TO SLIP IT PAST THE FANS FOR MORE OF THEIR MONEY"

Déjà vu is a funny feeling you get when you think that you have done or seen something before. Well, when I bought the T3 DVD and watched it for the first time I had a real case of déjà vu. Even though this was the first time that I had ever seen T3:ROTM, I knew that I had seen this movie before. Now, where was it that I had seen T3:ROTM before?

Hmmmm.

(insert sound of me snapping my fingers)

That's right! it was the Summer of 1991 and the movie was called Terminator 2: Judgment Day way back then.

T3 is a lampoon of T2, and a very bad one at that. From cheesy acting to laughable holes in both logic and plot, T3 fails as anything other than maybe a demo for some well done FX eye candy. The bad news is that it is official, it is canon, and it effectively beheads and neuters the first two movies in one fell swoop at the same time. T3 should be a lesson to all other film-makers of how not to make a movie using a vastly popular franchise. Big money and big star power couldn't save this stinker...

Let's recap the plot to T3:ROTM. SKYNET's attempt to kill Sarah Connor in 1984 fails. SKYNET then sends back through time an advanced prototype terminator to kill John Connor when he's older. The Resistance manages to send back a reprogrammed Terminator to protect John Connor. A chase ensues with the prototype Terminator pursuing John Connor while the reprogrammed Terminator protects him. A climatic battle between the two Terminators in the end results in the destruction of the prototype as well as the noble, self sacrifice of the guardian Terminator.

Notice any similarities there between T2 and T3? Sure you did because T3 is just T2 with more eye candy and a lot weaker plot. T3 could easily be considered a rejected script for T2: Judgment Day. At any rate, the abortion that is T3 should never have seen the light of day. There are numerous loop holes in the logic of T3 and several things that just really stood out as dumb. Let's review those now.

(Dumb)- the advanced prototype Terminator arrives back in modern day LA and immediately grabs a flashy, high dollar sports car then proceeds to drive like a maniac thus attracting all manner of public as well as law enforcement attention. The Terminator then proceeds to drive around and terminate people without any real regard for stealth. Sure, LA is a big, crazy place, but the amount of bosomy blondes in really tight red dress suits driving around at 90mph in a convertible Lexus and randomly capping people at burger stands can't be more than a hand full at any given time. Also, as a police officer, I know that when the officer pulled over the Lexus, he would have called in the make, model, and tag. Other officers would have been en route to back up the officer who stopped the Lexus, especially if it failed to yield to blue lights or he had to chase it a short bit. Once they arrived, or the dead officer failed to call in within two minutes (dispatch would check on his status often, especially on a traffic stop), other officers across the city would be on the look out or in pursuit of the Lexus. At least in T2:JD, the T1000 was smart enough to mimic a police officer, take the patrol unit, and access the LAPD central computer system in its quest to find John Connor.

(Dumb)- if the T-X can produce weapons out of its body, why does it need a Glock to carry out its mission? When it pulled up to the drive-thru at the burger joint to kill the first victim on its termination list, it would have made more sense if it had simply created a finger spike and run it through the eye socket of the kid at the window, like the T1000 did with the security guard at the insane asylum in T2. Tha

Why?

The terminator franchise is pretty much dead. It might be popular enough for a comic book or two, or maybe a game, but it's gonna take more money than it's worth in advertising to get people excited about movies again.

Oh come on, it can be done right!

They could do this in a form of a Lord of the Rings trilogy. Give it a title of Terminator: Future Wars, place the storyline in 20xx, and intertwine the storyline with the first three movies. Don't you want to see how the partisans broke in to the Skynet compound and sent Kyle trough time, demolishing tons of killing machines in the process? Wouldn't you like to witness how the first terminators were caught and reprogrammed? If they do it right, it has the potential to become all sorts of awesome.

I thought they already made the Terminator sequel.

Terminator vs Robocop!

Okay, they aren't really sequels, but they are very watchable amateur mashups.

Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86ltDTU1R8A [youtube.com]

Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_sSsJBFvR0 [youtube.com]

BAD IDEA

Just like Spiderman 3 it is going to suck. I think they should just leave it alone. Terminator 3 was a ok movie compare to the first 2 so I am not looking forward to how bad they are going to make T4 look.

As long as we're making sequels

K-Pax II: Invasion

"More humans... please... the first one was... delicious...."

That's not the worst part.

The deal includes the right to produce any future "Terminator" projects in any format (film, TV, etc.). It also includes all future merchandising and licensing rights, and certain rights to the upcoming TV series "The Sarah Connor Chronicles."

The title of that show alone does not bode well for what's left of this franchise. Please, for the love of god, just leave it up to Cameron and the comic-book writers; they seem to have a decent grasp on this stuff and know how to make a buck without being laughed at.

For all the cries of redundancy...

This could actually be something if they got the right people involved. The thing to remember is that scifi in general, and the Terminator series particularly, only works as a background to a great central human story. T2 was basically an unnecessary retread of T1 story-wise. What made it great was Cameron's superb screen-writing. One has plenty of material to work with here if they had the talent to put together a good screenplay and get a good director. You basically have a war movie, but with lasers and fucking robots! What isn't cool about that? Most of the sets would take place in veritable junkyards at night so it isn't as though the sets need to cost much. Hell you could fly to Iraq and shoot in the "greenzone" for pennies. Just kidding, but nevertheless that frees up more money for the CG robots. And one could buy up the rights to use Arnie's likeness and do a CG T-800 in the movie. It is said that the first Terminators had rubber skins, a perfect excuse if the effect doesn't necessarily look too convincing, although after seeing Golum and Davy Jones I'm not too sure it couldn't be pulled off anymore. It's a robot, it doesn't require emotive facial expressions.

In a perfect world I'd have Paul Verhoeven direct the first one as a straight up action movie. Then get Spielberg to direct the second as a "war is hell" dark piece. Say what you will about his catalog but no one does war movies like that man. Reanimate Stanley Kubrick to do the third and leave us with a delicious, morally ambiguous climax. All that said, I have no doubt they'll completely fuck up the movie. And the last two will be straight to video if anything.

Why so down on T3?

I don't get it... I guess I was the only one that liked T3... not the best of the series, in fact, it'd be #3 on my list, but still... I loved the ending, which really had that "oh shit, we're screwed" feeling that I love in movies (the end of Colossus for example). I thought John Connor was infinitely more likable than in T2 (could be because the actor playing him was a lot more likable IMO than in T2)... sure, could have done without the female Terminator, but hell, why not? What better way to kill a bunch of defiant men than fool them with a hot babe? No question SHE'D be able to get a lot closer than the Arnold model would!

Then again, I'm one of only three people on the face of the planet that thought Event Horizon kicked all sorts of ass, so I know, I have no credibility to begin with... but come on, you can't tell me the transmission they received didn't freak you out, and come on, a guy willingly sacrificing himself to an eternity in Hell for the sake of like 2 of his remaining crew? Has there EVER been a bigger hero?!?

I'm going back under my rock now.

If you don't want more crap from Hollywood...

If you don't want more crap like this from Hollywood, then don't go see it. Don't buy a ticket, don't buy the DVD, and whatever you do, don't buy the expanded trilogy DVD set with added features.

Despite all your whining you're going to go see it, you spineless nerd. Admit it.

I can see it now

We'll have the new release, then a remastered release in which the Terminator doesn't fire first.

Here is my weird idea... (c)

Why not have a new trilogy and the start of the trilogy will show John Connor, not long after the last movie, gathering the remaining people of Earth together to form a fighting force against SKYNET. It will also show the rapid progression of SKYNET and the Terminator series of robots from the basics of the last movie towards what we saw in Terminator 1. The end of new movie 1 (NM1) would be a defeat by the humans against a plant creating machines that also gives us a hint that SKYNET is going to repeat what we know - build a time machine. This movie also gives us a chance to get to know John better, his wife, and his generals.

New movie 2 (NM2) will be the heart of the war, the massive fighting between Terminators and Hunter-Killers and the human resistance and the trials to find the time machine. You can flesh out some characters a little more, kill off a couple we have gotten to know, while infiltrating the time machine base and sending Reese back because it must be done - there was no time (no pun intended) to change reality.

New movie 3 (NM3) is where John, who still has all the knowledge of what's going to happen from his mother, decides to change reality with the hope that people might learn from the past. They (the human resistance) gain control of the time machine and send back information in the form of John Connor's son and a protector - a female terminator who doesn't know she is one (sort of replicant like). They appear right in the middle of a UN session and Connor's son begins giving the members the rundown of what has happened, what could happen, and what is happening right that moment. In the middle of this televised speech, a badass Terminator appears in the middle of the UN and begins killing all the delegates - live on TV. John's son and his protector manage to stop the rampaging Terminator at the cost of their own lives. Thus proving what they said was true. This gives impetus to where the people rise up against machines and begin destroying them all over the earth. Fade out and come back to the earth 20 years later and what do we find? A decimated population, roaming gangs, and a hunter-gatherer society with some agrarian enclaves - in other words, degeneration on the same order as if SKYNET had won, except some people are still alive and technology has faded into the background. In essence creating a semi-luddite paradise.

Of course, you could always pan to some remote farmhouse with solar panels on the roof and a couple of eggbeater windmills providing power to the banks of computers where a small group of people are working on something furiously. The camera pans around the rooms of the house and we see they're communicating with other technologically inclined people around the globe trying to recreate a world wide linked computer network. The last few frames would be focused on a monitor where you would see Skynet Global Network System: Ready To Initiate... blinking on the screen. Fade out to groans of the multitude of fans.

They are going to call it:

The Govenator: Rise of Taxes.

the wachowskis already did it

"which picks up with John Connor in his 30s leading what's left of the human race against the machines." Read: The Matrix.

How much?

How much screen time will be devoted to Kristanna Loken's ass in these new films? I don't care how much the rest of it sucks.

John Cameron's high concept for brand new sequel

Terminator and humans on a ship battle a creature that has acid for blood and uses humans as hosts for breeding. Carnage ensues in ship corridors and machinery rooms until the ship hits an iceberg and sinks. After Terminator sinks in ocean, in surprise ending, sole survivor is blowing on whistle for help when alien bursts from her chest. Series potential.

terminator begins?

I. Terminator Begins: From the transistor to the killing to the semi-liquid killing machine. a true (imaginative) story.
sqrt(I). Terminator's Family: Watch him have robo-sex and teach his siblings how to kill a human in one blow.
ln(I). Terminators in their natural surroundings - a documentary by bbc. O_o

Special effect people

Does anyone else out there agree that T2 had way more realistic and better affects then T3 I do and i think if they are gonna make another one they should take more then 2 days to make it and not shred it up like Bambi 4.

Re:You know what would kick ass?

Terminator vs Predator

And then the Aliens show up.

And in the sequel, humans start mutating and get superpowers!

Re:trilogies smilogies...

You mean it will be made after all ? omg http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=%22titanic+ too%22+%22missed+the+iceberg%22&btnG=Search&meta= [google.co.uk]

Re:TV series - Oh, they have

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sarah_Connor_Chro nicles [wikipedia.org]

The series will be linked to the movies, according to the entry.