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None of the sites I use
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A few of the sites I use
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Most of the sites I use
  12672 votes / 37%
All of the sites I use
  7469 votes / 22%
What is SOPA/PIPA?
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Hey I think Wikipedia's busted...
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  • Don't complain about lack of options. You've got to pick a few when you do multiple choice. Those are the breaks.
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  • What about... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by ZeroZen (136166) on Wednesday January 18, 2012 @10:29AM (#38737554)

    SLASHDOT?

    What the hell guys? Do we not care about these bills to even change the color scheme?

    • by jcombel (1557059)

      i haven't been reading slashdot consistently forever, but i've never known the site at large to get behind a cause

      around here, editorializing is for timothy's article summaries, only BOOM

      • Re: (Score:2, Funny)

        by Anonymous Coward

        Except for OMG ponies pink.

        • by RobotRunAmok (595286) on Wednesday January 18, 2012 @11:16AM (#38738172)

          Change the Colors, yeah man, that'll show 'em!!

          See, I was just gonna wear a mauve ribbon on my lapel to show my support, like I do with all my other colored ribbons for breast cancer, gay rights, animal rights, missing soldiers, missing children, aborted children, aborted animals, and gays with breast cancer, but, YOU! you have a much better idea: change the color of a website! Brilliant!

          Fight The Power! No Justice No Peace! The Revolution Begins Here! (And it's a lovely shade of teal!)

    • Re:What about... (Score:4, Insightful)

      by pclminion (145572) on Wednesday January 18, 2012 @01:25PM (#38739712)
      Taking down Slashdot to protest SOPA would be a bit of pointless preaching to the choir, don't you think? That said, if it went down it's not like I'd have a heart attack.
    • Are you kidding? This is a golden opportunity to win back some market share from reddit!

    • My wife just called and told me that /. was honoring the blackout by not posting any new stories today.

      It's really kind of sad that I could spend hours on /. today and not even notice that it was "blacked out"....

  • Censored (Score:5, Informative)

    by lexa1979 (2020026) on Wednesday January 18, 2012 @10:30AM (#38737562)
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  • Missing Option: (Score:5, Insightful)

    by MadMoses (151207) on Wednesday January 18, 2012 @10:35AM (#38737644) Homepage

    SOPA/PIPA Would Directly Affect... ... the whole internet.

    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      by Anonymous Coward

      That is the problem I am having with the poll.
      * Technically: Every Website.
      * If draconically abused: Near every website.
      * If abused as often as DMCA on Youtube: Eh, a noticeable amount. Enough to be annoying, but not broken. At first.
      * If used as rampant as ICE domain seizures currently are: None.
      * If used as it is claimed by supports: None.

      Realistically, SOPA/PIPA won't practically affect me. However, I don't like the trend. I know the hidden infrastructure will be groaning/weakened from this. I know

      • by gnick (1211984)

        That is the problem I am having with the poll.
        * Technically: Every Website.

        Not every website. Just those that are indexed by search engines. Or registered under DNS. Or accessible over the Internet. So, the sites that I create on my laptop disconnected from the network (should be) safe for now.

        This should only affect the web sites that are accessible to more than one person. Or we can just adjust our browsing habits so that we avoid all search engines or pages with external links. Easy!

    • by ArsonSmith (13997)

      that would be option 4 for you then.

      • by MadMoses (151207)

        that would be option 4 for you then.
        But it goes beyond that. It's probably not going to affect all the sites I'm using, but which sites it will affect is not the point.

        The point is that it installs a censorship system on the internet.

    • So, all of the sites you use.
    • by g0bshiTe (596213)
      I'd actually be interested to see how many sites this would affect.
    • by artor3 (1344997)

      Don't exaggerate. I'm sure certain [riaa.com] reputable [nbc.com] websites [fox.com] would be completely fine.

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by Chrisq (894406)

      SOPA/PIPA Would Directly Affect... ... the whole internet.

      No - darknets and peer to peer would be unaffected. Ironically these are mostly used by blatant copyright infringers, the one the bill is designed to stop

  • by idbeholda (2405958) on Wednesday January 18, 2012 @10:45AM (#38737788) Journal
    Hit the "stop" button on your browser before the page loads. Gotta love the magic of javascript.
  • by g0bshiTe (596213) on Wednesday January 18, 2012 @10:49AM (#38737854)
    For SOPA, but it's just giving me a crap page about open and free internets.
  • Wikipedia? (Score:3, Interesting)

    by The Grim Reefer (1162755) on Wednesday January 18, 2012 @10:56AM (#38737936)
    Has Wikipedia changed their mind about the blackout? On the main English page it states at the top, "The English Wikipedia is currently locked for the SOPA/PIPA blackout". However searches appear to be working as of 9:45 am EST.
    • Re:Wikipedia? (Score:4, Informative)

      by pele1410 (1224132) on Wednesday January 18, 2012 @10:59AM (#38737960)
      Are you running NoScript? They're using javascript to display the blackout. I missed it too for a good hour.
      • by MoonBuggy (611105)

        I don't know if they thought this far into it, but I'd assume that the overlap between NoScript users and those informed enough to understand SOPA already is near 100%.

        • by pele1410 (1224132)
          Well the idea isn't to completely kill of their site, merely to direct attention to the issues. They even explain how to bypass the blackout in their FAQ.
      • Are you running NoScript? They're using javascript to display the blackout. I missed it too for a good hour.

        Yes, it's NoScript. I never think to look at that when something works.

  • by Greyfox (87712) on Wednesday January 18, 2012 @11:17AM (#38738190) Homepage Journal
    Seeing as how it would pretty much destroy the Internet as we know it. Copyright owners have already been shown to abuse the DMCA to suppress speech that they don't agree with, taking down fair use works, parodies and even works that they don't even own the copyright to. Under SOPA, any asshole with an axe to grind will be able to take a site off the Internet with no questions asked. In a world where even telling someone where to find something becomes illegal, do you think there will be anything left?
    • by g0bshiTe (596213)
      At least I can still get away with thought crimes.
      • by kesuki (321456)

        that reminds me of the twilightzone episode where the guy throws a coin on edge, and can read peoples minds, and in doing so, knows that a reliable employee had thought of robbing the bank but never goes through with it. just cause a guy has crime on his mind doesn't make them a real criminal.

    • Under SOPA, any asshole with an axe to grind will be able to take a site off the Internet with no questions asked.

      Umm, no.

      Actually,any asshole with an axe to grind AND A COURT ORDER will be able to take a site off the internet, assuming the defendant named in the Court Order doesn't contest the action, that the action would be technically feasible, and that the action wouldn't cost too much for the ISP/whatever.

      Of course, once the ISP has removed the site, it could be reopened immediately under another

      • by Baloroth (2370816) on Wednesday January 18, 2012 @02:47PM (#38740616)
        Actually, no. SOPA allows rights-holders to directly request ad networks and payment facilitators to suspend services to a website until and unless they file a counter notification. They can also request takedowns from search engines, or for that matter request the search engine itself be taken down (since it assists in infringement). Certain parts require court orders, but not all of them. PIPA was actually written to require court orders for rights-holders, but not SOPA. Source: Wikipedia [wikipedia.org] (that page should be working. If it isn't just shut off Javascript for Wikipedia, you don't really need it there anyways).
      • by kesuki (321456)

        in practice dns blocking breaks nearly every ip stack. why? simple anyone who won't got to court (foreigners) are required to have a blacklist on the dns servers in the usa against any foreign entity dns that 'shares links to copyrighted material' so every p2p user downloads peerblock as a blacklist of all american dns servers. which breaks the internet at its very core. so for an example user joe blow downloads a file from a network stream using vnc then sends it via webmail and the echelon scanner detects

        • in practice dns blocking breaks nearly every ip stack. why? simple anyone who won't got to court (foreigners) are required to have a blacklist on the dns servers in the usa against any foreign entity dns that 'shares links to copyrighted material'

          Please quote the relevant text of the Bill.

          Far as I can see, until and unless a Court Order is made, American DNS servers aren't required to do anything.

          Once the Court Order is made, the following requirements exist for a service provider (note that there are dif

  • by linebackn (131821) on Wednesday January 18, 2012 @11:24AM (#38738256)

    As I understand it, even if they drop the DNS blocking provision, it still provides the power to block funding to sites. This can often effectively have the same result.

    A bigger, more subtle problem is that it may create a "chilling" effect towards any site that could even imaginably potentially be hit by SOPA. Why would you risk doing business with someone that could have have their funding sources pulled? I think this is the critical bit for Open Source projects.

  • by travdaddy (527149) <travo@linuxDEGASmail.org minus painter> on Wednesday January 18, 2012 @11:43AM (#38738476)
    I think this is our version of the blackout... only post stories about SOPA! Well played, Slashdot, well played.
  • by buddyglass (925859)
    Honestly, I don't think their passage would significantly impact my internet experience. That's not to say they're a good thing, or that they wouldn't affect other peoples' experiences, but I find it hard to get very animated about SOPA/PIPA when...you know...we're imprisoning people indefinitely without trial and assassinating our own citizens. Those are a big deal. SOPA/PIPA? meh.
  • Police state (Score:5, Informative)

    by Urban Nightmare (147344) on Wednesday January 18, 2012 @12:28PM (#38739054)

    As a non US citizen I see what's happening there and wow is all I can say. I haven't seen a more power hungry, police state in the making, country since WWII. I don't think your general population has ever been dumber on whats actually happening there. All they want to see is the glitz and glamour. Hell they can't even be bothered to know who's running for office and what they stand for. Watch your news and they always have some fluff piece/you tube video/this star is in trouble with the law again right after they have info about the latest Republican convention. It's like wow we just made them think for 30 seconds so we better dumb this news cast down. Can't have ratings fall.

    You guys need to get a grip on reality before it's to late. Ops it already is.

    Urban Nightmare
    Living the dream...

    • by Baloroth (2370816)
      1)Invoked Godwin's law (in typical hyperbolic fashion)
      2)Extremely poor grammar
      3)Stereotypes an entire population based on the actions of a few of it's leaders
      4)A spelling mistake (only 1 that I saw, surprisingly)

      Yep, it's a troll.
      • by idontgno (624372)

        See? In a perfect world, SOPA/PIPA could be a powerful tool against trollery.

        Unfortunately, the trolls are actually calling the shots, so that's not gonna happen. Besides, one man's troll is another man's freedom troll, and it's a poor troll gun that can only shoot one kind of troll.

        It made more sense in my head. Sorry.

  • by Tom (822) on Wednesday January 18, 2012 @01:05PM (#38739472) Homepage Journal

    As much as I despise this latest proof of corruption and stupidity, claiming that the Internet will die is overzealous. It won't - the same powers have an interest in not killing it.

    It will change the Internet, and may even turn it into something else than what it is now. But I'm not so sure that doing the same propaganda only in reverse is the right thing to do. What happens if SOPA gets passed and the Internet does not cease to exist? People will not listen to us the next time.

    It is horrible, but it isn't the end.

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by abroadwin (1273704)
      Will the internet die? No. Will the internet as you know it die? Possibly. It's kind of like saying that censoring speech won't kill spoken communication. You're right about that... but it changes it significantly for the worse and gives those in power the ability to arbitrarily decide what can and can't be online. Similarly, it's like saying "oh, the Great Firewall in China isn't going to kill the internet! It will be FINE!". The end of the internet? No. A good thing? Definitely not.
    • Re:yes and no... (Score:4, Insightful)

      by gestalt_n_pepper (991155) on Wednesday January 18, 2012 @04:16PM (#38741330)

      No, the internet won't die. It will become a corporate/government-controllled walled garden. Think Compuserve with a bit more content, if you can pay for it, that is. The government/corporations that own the media companies, can't, for the moment, control the messages read on the internet. Truth still lives there, on blog sites like zerohedge.com, theoildrum.com, nakedcapitalism.com and the like. This legislation would change that, and make all websites about as informative and useful as fox's local evening TV news, or Yahoo's front page.

  • What do you mean "would"?

    By causing enough discontent that wikipedia and other sites are down/changed in opposition to it, I think the correct wording is:

    "SOPA/PIPA Already Has Directly Affected..."

  • by Kethinov (636034) on Wednesday January 18, 2012 @03:01PM (#38740758) Homepage Journal

    Google posted some rhetoric that says: "End Piracy, Not Liberty" https://www.google.com/landing/takeaction/ [google.com]

    A lot of SOPA critics make similar arguments, but I don't buy it.

    How do you stop piracy without Orwellian bullshit like internet censorship, deep packet inspection, etc? The only way to completely eradicate piracy is to install a surveillance state as terrifying as 1984's.

    So, given that, how exactly do we end piracy without ending liberty?

    • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 18, 2012 @03:15PM (#38740860)

      Remove the reasons that people pirate. The easier it is to obtain a legal version of something, the fewer people will pirate it. The more convenient it is to make use of a legal version of something, the fewer people will pirate it.

    • by tsa (15680)

      Why end piracy? The war on piracy is lost, just like the war on drugs and terrorism. Live with it and optimize your sales some other way.

    • by funkatron (912521)
      There is one way to end piracy without ending liberty. That is to acknowledge that the term piracy is a result of a choice of values and then to select better values which recognise the fact that there is, in fact, no problem.
  • I don't know that! When Wikipedia is off, my IQ drops 20 points (was about to link xkcd, but apparently not possible due to SOPA).
  • SOPA/PIPA already had a major impact: for the first time in 11+ years http://zombo.com/ [zombo.com] has been updated.

The number of computer scientists in a room is inversely proportional to the number of bugs in their code.

 



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