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Comment: Re:This is a grant proposal (Score 1) 184

by buddyglass (#43723319) Attached to: Has Supercomputing Hit a Brick Wall?
If you look at his presentation, he mentions that the current top performer is 17.6 PFLOPs. The list is from November 2012. 1000 / 17.6 is a factor of 56.8. Moore's law predicts a 2x performance improvement every 1.5 years. 56.8 log 2 = 5.83. 5.83 = 1.5 years = 8.7 years. November 2012 + 8.7 years = mid-2021.

Comment: Re:guessing it's more complex than that (Score 1) 665

by buddyglass (#43714043) Attached to: How Colleges Are Pushing Out the Poor To Court the Rich
Often this is because state legislatures exercise tight control on "tuition" but not "fees". btw, It's not deceptive to give "tuition and fees" figures (sans room & board) as long as they're clear about what the number means. Most of them are. Also, the original poster to whom I was replying (ButchDeLoria, who introduced the $20k figure) specifically said "excluding supplies, housing and additional fees". My strong suspicion is that he's mistaken.

Comment: Re:guessing it's more complex than that (Score 1) 665

by buddyglass (#43714013) Attached to: How Colleges Are Pushing Out the Poor To Court the Rich
This is approximately what you'd expect given the following assumptions:

1. All else being equal, there's a positive correlation between general intelligence and ability to get into Harvard.
2. All else being equal, there's a positive correlation between general intelligence and household income.
3. Intelligence is, at least to some degree, heritable.

In other words, if your parents are wealthy then they're more likely to be "smart" and if your parents are "smart" you're correspondingly more likely to be "smart" yourself, meaning you have a leg up on the race to get into an elite school.

We might also add the following:

1. Having parents with a certain style of parenting (supportive, stable, stressing educational achievement, etc.) correlates with the sort of academic achievement that gets one into Harvard.
2. One is predisposed to use the same type of parenting style used by one's parents did and to stress the same things one's parents stressed. If your parents were abusive or negligent then you're more likely to be an abusive or negligent parent. If your parents stressed education then you're more likely to stress education as a parent. If your parents read to you as a child then you're more likely to read to your own children. Etc.

Comment: Re:guessing it's more complex than that (Score 1) 665

by buddyglass (#43709241) Attached to: How Colleges Are Pushing Out the Poor To Court the Rich
Are you including room and board in that $20,000 figure? Because the original poster claimed his nephew was paying $20k/year excluding "supplies, housing and additional fees". For Oklahoma State I used this estimator to calculate tuition and fees for 30 credit hours (i.e. two semesters) of 100% engineering courses, which carry the highest per-credit-hour fee. Result: $9,229.

Comment: Re:guessing it's more complex than that (Score 1) 665

by buddyglass (#43709187) Attached to: How Colleges Are Pushing Out the Poor To Court the Rich
Much of it goes to need-based financial aid. You raise the stick price so that those who can afford to pay more do, then turn around and take some portion of that extra money and use it to defray the costs of those who can't. See this piece from NPR on sticker price vs. actual price paid. Inflation-adjusted net price has gone up by about 30% for public schools and 22% for private schools over the past 15 years. That's obviously a growth rate that exceeds inflation, but it's a good sight less than the growth in sticker price over that same period.

Comment: Re:guessing it's more complex than that (Score 1) 665

by buddyglass (#43709141) Attached to: How Colleges Are Pushing Out the Poor To Court the Rich

assuming virtue is not correlated with parental income

Who said they're admitting kids based on "virtue"? They're admitting them based on expected future performance. In fact, I suspect they've had to lower standards for the sub-65k crowd just to juice the number to 20%. I agree with you, btw, that "virtue" (e.g. kindness, honesty, etc.) isn't correlated with household income.

Comment: Re:guessing it's more complex than that (Score 5, Informative) 665

by buddyglass (#43705541) Attached to: How Colleges Are Pushing Out the Poor To Court the Rich
Which state? And what percentage of their students pay full sticker price? (Hint: probably only the wealthy ones.)

For fun, here's a list of top public universities and their in-state costs (from US News):

1. UC-Berkeley, $11,767
2. UCLA, $12,692
3. UVA, $12,006
4. Michigan, $13,437
5. UNC, $7,694
6. Wm. and Mary, $13,570
7. Georgia Tech, $10,098
8. UC-Davis, $13,877
9. UC-San Diego, $12,128
10. UC-Santa Barbara, $13,671
11. Wisconsin, $10,384
12. UC-Irvine, $14,090
13. Penn State, $16,444
14. Illinois, $14,428
15. UT-Austin, $9,792
16. Washington, $10,574
17. Florida, $5,656
18. Ohio State, $10,037
19. Maryland, $8,908
20. Pitt, $16,590

So which state's two major state universities are both $20k+?

Comment: Re:guessing it's more complex than that (Score 3, Informative) 665

by buddyglass (#43705067) Attached to: How Colleges Are Pushing Out the Poor To Court the Rich
They (elite schools) seem to be locating and successfully recruiting the lion's share of low-income high-ability students. At least if this article is to be believed:

Low-income high-achieving students at these schools have close to 100 percent odds of attending an Ivy League school or other highly selective college...

"These schools" are "from 15 large metropolitan areas. These areas often have highly regarded public high schools, such as in New York City or in the Washington, D.C., area." It's the 30% of low-income high-ability students outside those metro areas that aren't heading to elite universities. Harvard also claims that 20% of its class falls under the $65k/year threshold and therefore pays nothing.

I'm definitely not in Omaha!

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