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Intel Releases Mashups for the Masses
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News_and_info writes "Intel has released an online tool called Mash Maker with the intent of allowing anyone to create mashups. They offer some training on how to use it, but the tool is fairly easy to use out of the gate. I see it more as a rudimentary semantic browser. From the article: 'Mashups have still not really penetrated the mainstream. My mother is not using mashup sites, and she is definitely not creating them. Even if there was a mashup out there that did exactly what she wanted, the chances are that she wouldn't know it existed, and would be confused by it if she tried to use it ... With Mash Maker, mashups are part of the normal browsing experience. As you browse the web, the Mash Maker toolbar displays buttons representing mashups that Mash Maker thinks you might want to apply to your current page.'"
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more info in the summary (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:more info in the summary (Score:5, Funny)
(Last Journal: Thursday February 17 2005, @12:20PM)
Re:more info in the summary (Score:5, Informative)
Short version: Site A has a service, and an API to access that service. Site B has another service with its own API. Some guy comes in, grabs the two services and mashes them up into one piece. Wikipedia has an article on the subject, and suggests mapping Craiglist listings on a Google Maps map as an example of a mashup.
REALLY Short version: Imagine the stuff you do with the standard *NIX toolchain and pipes. Now apply the concept to the web.
Re:more info in the summary (Score:5, Insightful)
What's REALLY needed (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:What's REALLY needed (Score:5, Funny)
Re:What's REALLY needed (Score:5, Funny)
Don't tase me, bro!
What's a "mashup"? (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:What's a "mashup"? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:What's a "mashup"? (Score:5, Informative)
The dude behind this (Rob Ennals) worked for SCO after training in a lab funded by Microsoft. http://berkeley.intel-research.net/rennals/ [intel-research.net]
Abusable? (Score:2, Insightful)
Joyous Day! (Score:5, Funny)
Mashups are... (Score:5, Informative)
(http://snoozing.wordpress.com/)
Re:Mashups are... (Score:4, Funny)
This is useful because you don't get excess cheeto dust in your keyboard by having to type in multiple URLs.
Re:Mashups are... (Score:5, Insightful)
(http://slashdot.org/)
"a Mashup is used in order to make a certain source of information exponentially more useful", translation: "complete bullshit; a nearly nonsensical term made up by some 14 year-old with a hard-on for MySpace".
I sure hope these Mashups will be all Web 2.0, and lets not forget to crowdsource some folksonomies, too.
I've noticed... (Score:4, Informative)
Businesspeople have taken to using the phrases,
The problem is, none of them seem to know what either of the above actually mean...
Re:Mashups are... (Score:4, Funny)
http://www.dilbert.com/comics/dilbert/archive/dilbert-20070909.html [dilbert.com]
The "2.0" ness escapes more than newbies. (Score:5, Interesting)
More power to those out there that edit wikis religiously, blog daily, use and create mashups, get their news through an RSS reader, can name their favorite 10 podcasts, share their Google calendars with their friends, have a FlickR and Delicious account, use 100 firefox plugins, and have an application-loaded Facebook among their many social networking sites - these can be some great tools with great utility to people.
But for some reason, this newfangled web doesn't seem to appeal to me, my friends, or anyone I know. I'm a Computer Science Masters student, and my friends work in industry. Am I backwards? Antiquated? Should I be mashing it up? I do it like I have for years - an xterm, an email app, an IM app, and a tabbed-to-the-hilt browser.
Re:The "2.0" ness escapes more than newbies. (Score:5, Insightful)
(http://www.watters.ws/)
Re:The "2.0" ness escapes more than newbies. (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:The "2.0" ness escapes more than newbies. (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:The "2.0" ness escapes more than newbies. (Score:4, Insightful)
Social networking sites are starting to grow on me, but only a tiny bit. I do love podcasts, because ever since I was a child I thought TV with commercials, no pause/record/playback, and on someone else's schedule was folly. Some people call them podcasts, I just call them radio: now I listen to my radio/tv from a menu (the menu on my iPod) instead of from a guide (the TV Guide).
RSS feeds are pretty sweet but frankly not sweet enough for me to go out and discover on my own, so I appreciate ones that come to me for free (specifically, Firefox's RSS news link). My calendar hangs on my wall, and I find that more convenient than any computer calendar I've ever found, but that's probably because I'm a simple guy and don't need to schedule more than a couple things on any given day, at most. I can understand the benefit of a Google Calendar to people who are very busy and need to coordinate with lots of other people. Also, for egoists.
Same with Flickr. I love my digicam but I don't have much of a compulsion to show my pics to the rest of the world. They're on my own site, they're not hidden or anything, but I don't need to share them actively.
I never got into chat either. I've used it as a tool and it's okay, but I much prefer email because it is non-live. I like audio chat when it works with something else I'm doing. For instance, when I play card games online (I like euchre), I can audio chat with the other participants, and that improves the experience.
Web 2.0 stuff is pretty compelling. Google Maps is the bomb (true that, double true). I appreciate the more complex and compelling interfaces offered on the web today. There was a time in 2000, 2001 and thereabouts where companies were putting all kinds of applications on the web, but the web wasn't up to the task, so we were all doing things on the web that we should have been doing on desktop apps. Now things are a lot better. My bank's website has animated windows that fade in and out and overlap, and it's an interface just about as compelling as any desktop app I've used.
This is trite and perhaps obvious, but one thing the internet is fantastically perfect for is... porn. My god, what if we all still had to go out and walk to a porno theatre to see stag films? That would be terrible.
Re:The "2.0" ness escapes more than newbies. (Score:5, Insightful)
(http://klenwell.net/ | Last Journal: Thursday February 08 2007, @12:41PM)
I hear you. I actually had an idea the other day that I thought would be perfect for Yahoo Pipes. The thing was, the web page that was the source for the key data to be mashed-up, though a classic HTML data table, didn't offer an RSS feed. And Pipes doesn't seem to offer even the most basic page scraping utility. (If it does, I couldn't find it.)
After playing around with Yahoo Pipes for a half-hour trying to make it work, I realized that with my knowledge of PHP, I could do this just as easily on my own. And have much more control over the process and end product.
The conclusion I came to: anyone who is capable of imaginatively using these tools is probably more than capable of just rolling their own mashup using open-source scripting tools. I don't imagine most ordinary users are going to be able to create anything more inventive than a regurgitated RSS feed.
Please correct me if I'm wrong. Anyone have any interesting examples of something produced with this kind of pre-packaged mashup tool?
Will it blend? (Score:1)
Firefox only (Score:5, Interesting)
(http://www.animats.com)
Note that it's Firefox-only. No Internet Explorer support.
Intel has lately started to move into Microsoft's space. Microsoft used to object when Intel did much with software on mainstream platforms, and Intel used to back off. Intel isn't backing off any more. Interesting.
Re:Firefox only (Score:4, Funny)
(http://www.game-point.net/ | Last Journal: Monday November 14 2005, @09:19AM)
WTF is a mashup? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:WTF is a mashup? (Score:5, Funny)
(http://horsies.co.uk/)
I smell synergy.
the truth is (Score:5, Insightful)
The name alone implies that it's some sort of hap-hazardly created frankenstein stuff that 10 year olds create.
The name does not indicate at all, in any way what a mashup is or does.
It just sounds stupid and totally un-professional.
No, I'm not trolling, this isn't flamebait, I'm giving MY take on it from the perspective of someone near 50 years old.
Why not call this stuff, what ever it is, by a name that gives people a sense of what it's about?
what the hell ?!? (Score:2)
(http://www.webgeekworld.com/ | Last Journal: Thursday April 27 2006, @07:47AM)
your mother's mashup with what tools ? and intel ? what kind of slashdot pos is this ?
dont play games with
Mashup security (Score:1)
Advice to users, stay away from mashups unless you trust its makers ensure third party content is 100% safe.
If you do end up using a mashup site, make sure that you observe all safe browsing tips, especially logging out of you web mail/banking services before entering.
buzzzzzz wordsssss (Score:1)
Coincidentally, the day the computers can read what we're looking at and know us well enough to offer an even remotely successful guess at what comes next will be the day the computer decides it doesn't need me anymore. And I think we all know what happens when the computers decide they don't need us anymore.
And while I still have a bad attitude, I'll add that I'm getting tired of kids thinking they "made something". Listen, kid, did you actually make ANYTHING on that page? Besides the poorly written prose reflecting on whether or not Vanilla Ice really can dance better than any Kidd or Play, your page mostly looks like a combination of non-anti-aliased animated gifs that clash with your background and a few youtube videos that you didn't write, film, produce, rip, or even upload yourself, and only 50/50 chance you even found it yourself. Well job, newb, well job. Nevermind that you contributed maybe a fraction of a fraction of a percent of the total time it took to create that page.
Sorry for the ot in the third p, I'm still a little upset after being eye-raped by some myspace pages at work last week and then being told mine sucks because it's too plain. Heh, elegant simplicity, young padawan. Wisdom comes from typing less and reading more.
They did the mash... (Score:5, Funny)
The website mash
It was a network smash!
Chris Mattern
We did it! (Score:5, Funny)
Mashup: Opentable and Zagat (Score:1)
(Last Journal: Tuesday July 31, @12:20AM)
I get the sense that if there is a large population of people who desire a site with a common set of features from two different sites one of those sites would simply add them on their own. Otherwise a third party would wind up simply ripping off the other's content.
Another mashup platform also released this week (Score:1)
(http://www.eturner.net/)
cock-ups and mashups (Score:1)
(http://www.saysomethingcryptic.com/)
I had to look the word up. I was pretty sure this wasn't about combining two different artists' songs into one funky unit.
Mash Maker thinks (Score:1)
(http://jaap.info.tm/)
Web 2.0 = Who To Follow? (Score:1)
(http://last.fm/user/nitroadict)
This Web 2.0 "hype" is largely a phantom, imo, and this Intel release re-confirms it for me. Web 2.0 only escapes the realm of vaporware in the sense that applications and uses are actually created under this hype, yet it all seems pretty shallow considering how not only more than one person on this page has admitted it ( I could easily ask a bunch of friends both living on the internet and not). The only time I seem to really notice the hype, honestly, is when calling it by the accepted name: Web 2.0 lol. While all of these things are being developed, most of it isn't being taken seriously (MySpace the most blatant example, but honestly, any site with a design like that is just going to fall flat of the finish line; would it kill them to have some negative space on that site, or maybe kill some of the seizure inducing themes who seem to really like clashing bright colors & 120 videos on one page).
I wouldn't call it all a waste; eventually the fallout of this almost imaginary Web 2.0 hype will be more useful as experience from trying to make such things work: Yahoo Pipes versus efficient knowledge of PHP, older designs that work well, manage a decent amount of both functional CSS and media and DO NOT BREAK vs. newer, unproven designs involving ad hock amounts of AJAX, CSS 2.Fail, experimental CSS 3, not entirely understood uses of Rails, etc. I mean, Pets.com failed for reasons (like many a dotcom); many of this stuff will to for similar reasons under different as well as similar circumstances.
All in all, I'm beginning to actually see, however, useful things develop amid this Web 2.0 business, mainly because it's beginning to look like it's going to start to die down soon, specifically:
Admitelly, I'm not a programmer just yet, but I find it excellent that I can somehow get my foot in (hopefully) in learning the concepts of actual programming with stuff I already know (HTML Mason being the best as HTML is dead simple, so I'd imagine picking up on some of Perl in context would help ease the stigma of learning how to use a programming language). Web 2.0 sites , specifically about CSS 2.0, I've found for the most part useful when they are A. Not repeating the same things, which is a rare that they don't and B. Are not spouting pro-CSS only zealot B.S. about how tables only "data" when by definition, everything you put on a webpage is "data" LoL!
CMS I also find a very good consequence of Web 2.0, as it's helping me get my grounding in finally managing a comic navigation system for a future project and learning some minor but nonetheless PHP along the way. In theory, it should help keep me active, just like this whole Web 2.0 thing is really all in theory. In theory, I could easily put up my entire daily life on LiveJournal, Facebook, etc. etc. But if I sign up for those things, I do not use them any where near to the extent others may imagine others, or myself imagined, using them. Personal barriers became established, the "trendy" feeling went away, friends just keep sending the same fucking mindless bulletins via myspace, spam fills the youetube inbox, etc. etc. I
Mashups? (Score:2)
(http://kradeleet.com/)
Email issues (Score:2)
(http://kradeleet.com/)
stanford also has a tool for mashups for everyone (Score:1)
Source-code examples of APIs enable developers to quickly gain a gestalt understanding of a librarys functionality, and they support organically creating applications by incrementally modifying a functional starting point. As an increasing number of web sites provide APIs, significant latent value lies in connecting the complementary representations between site and service in essence, enabling sites themselves to be the example corpus. We introduce d.mix, a tool for creating web mashups that leverages this site-to-service correspondence. With d.mix, users browse annotated web sites and select elements to sample. d.mixs sampling mechanism generates the underlying service calls that yield those elements. This code can be edited, executed, and shared in d.mixs wiki-based hosting environment. This sampling approach leverages pre-existing web sites as example sets and supports fluid composition and modification of examples. An initial study with eight participants found d.mix to enable rapid experimentation, and suggested avenues for improving its annotation mechanism.
mashup to me means.. (Score:1)
I shall now refuse to sublimate the word 'mashup' to this web thingie and shall from here forth be unnamed.
Best uses are BEHIND the firewall (Score:2)
I have server logs, databases, wikis, sysedge data, snmp information, ticketing system information, and I have to visit 20 different web pages a day to get all my information. Now, mash THAT INFORMATION up and give it to me in one page, without too much programming, and you have something useful.
Mash Maker (Score:1)
Mashup (Score:1)
YahooPipes offered this almost a year ago. Better. (Score:2)
What Mashups are: (Score:2)
Hope that helps.
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Not necessarily stupid (Score:3, Informative)
(http://lee-phillips.org/)
It had better be good... (Score:1)
Re:Legal issue.... (Score:4, Funny)
(http://www.neverwhen.net/)
Re:Legal issue.... (Score:1)
(http://www.plainfast.com/)