Tom Hanks Warns of an AI Version of Him Used To Promote Dental Plan (hollywoodreporter.com) 81
Tom Hanks is warning fans not to trust a video of him circulating about a dental plan. From a report: The Oscar-winning actor took to his Instagram on Sunday to give his fans a heads-up that anything they may see about him online linked to a dental plan was not actually him. "BEWARE!! There's a video out there promoting some dental plan with an AI version of me. I have nothing to do with it," Hanks wrote over a photo of a computer-generated image of him from the clip. The Asteroid City star previously opened up about the use of AI in the entertainment industry, noting it's been a long time coming and citing The Polar Express as the first time he did a movie that had a huge amount of his likeness locked into a computer.
"We saw this coming," he said on The Adam Buxton Podcast in May. "We saw that there was going to be this ability to take zeros and ones inside a computer and turn it into a face and a character. Now that has only grown a billionfold since then, and we see it everywhere." He also discussed how, with the use of AI, a version of him could continue acting, even if something were to happen to him. "I could be hit by a bus tomorrow, and that's it, but performances can go on and on and on and on," Hanks said. "Outside the understanding of AI and deepfake, there'll be nothing to tell you that it's not me and me alone. And it's going to have some degree of lifelike quality. That's certainly an artistic challenge, but it's also a legal one."
"We saw this coming," he said on The Adam Buxton Podcast in May. "We saw that there was going to be this ability to take zeros and ones inside a computer and turn it into a face and a character. Now that has only grown a billionfold since then, and we see it everywhere." He also discussed how, with the use of AI, a version of him could continue acting, even if something were to happen to him. "I could be hit by a bus tomorrow, and that's it, but performances can go on and on and on and on," Hanks said. "Outside the understanding of AI and deepfake, there'll be nothing to tell you that it's not me and me alone. And it's going to have some degree of lifelike quality. That's certainly an artistic challenge, but it's also a legal one."
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This is literally promoting the fraud.
He's literally telling you it's not him. It's the opposite of promoting the fraud, which purports to have Tom Hanks promoting a product.
Following your logic, a rape accusation is promotion of rape.
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That's why they don't want to accuse anyone from Epstein island because they don't want to promote child rape. Libs are smart that way.
I'm more lib than any lib you know and I want his entire black book investigated, and all his other known associates as well, because transparency and accountability are liberal values.
travel much? (Score:1)
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because transparency and accountability are liberal values.
I'd say these are just values. Both sides claim them and both sides fail to live up to them (just like all people.)
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I'd say a lot of people claim to be liberal or conservative that are really just greedy and authoritarian.
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"Watch out for that harmful thing that no one's actually seen until I made this statement"
This is literally promoting the fraud.
1) He didn't name the company or link to the video, really limits the exposure he gives them.
2) He did however send a clear image of the fake him, now anyone who sees the video can provide a link to the instagram post.
3) If you're a celebrity selling your image via endorsement is a really good income stream, meanwhile a fake endorsement can do serious damage to your image. Just look at all those big name celebrities who got burned with highly convincing AI versions of themselves promoting crypto and NFTs because they couldn't possibly have been stupid enough to lend their name to that crap.
Where's the beef? (Score:2)
Has anyone actually seen this video? google's not finding any matches.
This is supposed to be news for nerds, so of course we want to see this actual AI-generated video.
If this site were news for lemmings, then of course we would just accept the article as written and assume there is this evil AI-generated video that looks so natural that we would fall for it and sign up for the plan if we happened to actually see the video, so it would make total sense that it can't be found anywhere...
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I tried to find it but couldn't.
It is possible he got it taken down off all the major platforms, which someone like Hanks could likely get done.
Too bad most others would not be able to.
Re:Where's the beef? (Score:5, Informative)
This article [ts2.space] has screenshots of the ad. It's in no way a deepfake, and could in no way be mistaken for the real Tom Hanks. It's no clear if AI is actually involved either.
Streisand effect... (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Streisand effect... (Score:4, Funny)
"My name is Forrest Gum. I wish to now fix all the problems my chocolates caused your teeth."
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He can't stop people from seeing it and believing it.
However, he CAN use this public statement if he gets sued three years from now because that dental plan screwed people over somehow.
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Streisand effect to look up a specific ad?
Ok, perhaps, but with specific intention of *never* getting any of the advertisers product. Reverse Streisand effect?
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I've seen both of them in person. Edge to Trump, the dude has serious charisma and knows how to work a crowd. Biden hasn't ever been a very good retail politician, long before dementia was an issue. He goes off saying things about himself that are demonstrably, provably false on stage, it's pretty much his trademark.
It's both their trademarks [newsnationnow.com], but you only remember that one of them does it. Why is that?
Re:And what about Biden videos? (Score:5, Informative)
Biden, on the other hand, might say he was present at a dangerous location he was nowhere near like Afghanistan, Iraq or ground zero in NYC, lie about where he was actually from, or take credit for some foreign politician's speech. All documented stuff.
https://www.sj-r.com/story/opi... [sj-r.com]
https://www.theguardian.com/us... [theguardian.com]
https://qz.com/1355725/omarosa... [qz.com]
https://www.theatlantic.com/he... [theatlantic.com]
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/16... [cnn.com]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
Look pal, I'm right there with you on Biden, the problem is you're in denial about Trump. That reveals your promotion of a partisan agenda. Your willful ignorance doesn't change all the times Trump did exactly the same shit Biden does.
Trump IS better at manipulating a crowd than Biden. Biden rambles thinking his stories are interesting to other people as he vainly tries to follow his own thread. But Trump can't actually speak worth a fuck, all he does is repeat words that people react to. That is very savvy, it's a skill he's obviously been practicing since childhood (when his father was using his name on financial frauds, and no doubt teaching him how clever it was to defraud) and it clearly works very well on a lot of people who aren't too smart. But when you look at a transcript of what he said, it's just word salad [yahoo.com]. Trump isn't delivering a narrative. He's just pushing buttons. He's got no cogency, only saliency.
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Biden said in a speech that he was there the day after, really it was a week after and was probably an innocent mistake not brought about by dementia. Trump claimed to have evidence that the noise from windmills caused cancer. The list goes on and on and is so bizarre.
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All politician lie constantly. We just attriubte a possitive reason to the reason the politician we agree with.
That said, you can count on the non-fox media fact checking Trump a lot more than you can count on them fact checking Biden.
Re:And what about Biden videos? (Score:4, Informative)
Just last week Trump was ranting that Biden would start world war two. Not three, two.
Re:And what about Biden videos? (Score:5, Informative)
Let us not forget how wind turbines are killing whales [theguardian.com] en masse. Or how George Washington and company captured British airports [time.com]. Or how we have to protect the inventor of the wheel [youtube.com].
Re:And what about Biden videos? (Score:4, Informative)
I've seen both of them in person. Edge to Trump, the dude has serious charisma and knows how to work a crowd.
He has charisma, but he also has a limit. He can work up the crowd with a short bit, but over an entire speech the rambling tends to get old. There's numerous accounts of people getting bored during his speeches to the extent that his security needs to stop the crowd from leaving [yahoo.com].
Biden hasn't ever been a very good retail politician
Ok, first, "retail politician" is a comparison to working retail, making one sale at a time. It's about persuading small groups of people and it's exactly Biden's strength. He's a nice personable guy.
Trump is exceptional for being the opposite of a retail politician. He doesn't go around shaking hands and chatting with locals or the donors, he's all about big rallies and speeches to dominate the media.
, long before dementia was an issue. He goes off saying things about himself that are demonstrably, provably false on stage, it's pretty much his trademark.
I've seen no real evidence that Biden has dementia. He's slowing down a bit, and yes that a serious concern, but I don't see dementia. Some folks decline quickly, others remain fairly sharp into their 90s.
And honestly, Biden's not Trump, there's a lot of people close to Biden that know the consequences of losing the next election and their loyalty is to the country and party, not Biden. If they thought he had early stage dementia they wouldn't let him run again because they know a decline mid-campaign could easily lead to a Trump win.
As for Biden saying things that are "demonstrably, provably false on stage, it's pretty much his trademark." I assume you mean gaffs. And yeah, that's his trademark going back decades but it's not a big deal because they know his positions.
And at this point I'm also assuming you're a full-blown Trump supporter trying to act impartial because you're trying to hang dishonesty on Biden when Trump is absolutely infamous for how much he lies.
And back to dementia, I was honestly trying to figure out if Trump had dementia back in 2016, and I wasn't the only one [theguardian.com]. My conclusion, it was impossible to tell if Trump was losing his mind since he never really used it in the first place.
And yeah, Trump isn't far behind Biden in age and he's definitely [cnn.com] showing signs of confusion [youtube.com].
Personally, I still don't know if Trump has dementia, but if he did I doubt there's anyone in his circle that could reign him in. As for health in general, Biden's a few years older but a hell of a lot healthier, I expect Trump's funeral to come first.
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As for Biden saying things that are "demonstrably, provably false on stage, it's pretty much his trademark." I assume you mean gaffs. And yeah, that's his trademark going back decades but it's not a big deal because they know his positions.
And at this point I'm also assuming you're a full-blown Trump supporter trying to act impartial because you're trying to hang dishonesty on Biden when Trump is absolutely infamous for how much he lies
I can see how you would think this since you attribute Biden lies as gafts and Trump lies as lies.
Re: And what about Biden videos? (Score:1)
Joe Rogan's been trying to sell me supplements (Score:2)
What I really like though are the ones that aren't done with AI, but are done up like those old Weird Al interviews from "Al TV" specials on MTV back in the day. Where they cut back and forth from Rogan and the scammer making it look like he's praising the scammer's product.
Not sure what I did to make YouTube think I trust Joe Rogan's opinion, but whatever it was I feel like my intelligence is being insulted.
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Google is probably using Facebook logic to target ads at you. It sees that you said Joe Rogan more than a few times so it gave you a relatively high score on the Joe Rogan keyword. Except with Facebook you only have to say the name once to summon it.
Which is the real Tom Hanks? (Score:2)
"AI Tom Hanks" didn't really happen (Score:2)
But was the only excuse Rita Wilson could come up with quickly when Tom caught her in bed with a guy that vaguely resembled him.
Psst, wanna deal on a root canal? (Score:2)
Dentistry and orthopedics have a heavy licensing requirement. It's not usually the kind of industry that would engage below the belt because losing your license is career death.
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Dentistry and orthopedics have a heavy licensing requirement. It's not usually the kind of industry that would engage below the belt because losing your license is career death.
The item in question is about dental insurance, somewhat less regulated than actual medical care.
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The item in question is about dental insurance, somewhat less regulated than actual medical care.
Yes and no. Insurance has their own regulations especially health insurance. I suspect any plan using underhanded tactics like unauthorized celebrity representations may skirting other regulations like it is not actually insurance at all but claims to be.
This might be a good thing (Score:2)
Celebrity endorsements are mostly useless
Yes, it's plausible that a famous race driver might have some useful insight about a sports car, but an actor adds nothing to understanding of a dental plan, even if the ad is real
Maybe when we are flooded by fake celebrity ads, admongers will stop using them
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Oh of course. It is a "Well if X thinks Y is good then since I trust X, because I like their movies, then I must be able to trust Y!"
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As if you need real celebrities anymore, now that we have YouTube influenza.
Old Problem (Score:1)
If I remember correctly Back In The 90s (TM) on The Simpsons when Krusty The Klown became an edgy comedian for one episode he bemoaned that the late Vincent Price had his likeness appearing in adverts, warning of The Horrors Of An Unclean Bowl.
As I see it: the technological problem of a familiar face losing agency in what they say and do not say in broadcasts to those who recognise them has been accumulating for some time. I seem to remember one of the Beastie Boys also putting it in a contract or will that
Lisa Needs Braces (Score:4, Funny)
The future of personalized ads? (Score:2)
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This is something I never quite grasped: Why should I buy something that some actor, musician or athlete I like to watch endorses? So $football_star likes $food. Ok. So? What does this tell me about that food? That I become like $football_star if I eat it? That would be silly to expect or assume. That I should eat it because he likes it? He wouldn't even know that I eat it, so why would he care?
I mean, if some world-class runner endorses sport shoes, I can at least say "ok, it's maybe a product he uses, and
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I don't trust people, I go by expertise. Preferably with a proof attached.
Does anybody know? (Score:2)
If the video makes no use of the name of Hanks, and it's simply a cartoonish person with a likeness to Mr.Hanks, can you sue about it, or is basically grey zone?
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Imagine a political party would push a cartoon character that looks like the candidate of the other party that makes him look like a totally dishonest buffoon.
You think that would be considered a grey zone?
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Here, check out this story from 1993:
https://www.chicagotribune.com... [chicagotribune.com]
Faulty premise (Score:1)
Maybe it's just me - I avoid almost all forms of entertainment. I don't watch movies these days -
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I never got why actors and entertainers were considered sources of information or important opinions. Based on my experience they did all they could in school to avoid things like science and such yet they come forward as having something important to say about science, health, economics, etc. Their only qualification is entertaining. If they want to comment on tuning a guitar or studying scripts then I'll listen.
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You mean like Dolph Lundgren who has a Master's in Chemical Engineering [snopes.com] and received a Fulbright Scholarship? Or did you mean Danica McKellar and her theorem? Here's a list of actors [wikipedia.org], composers, athletes, and others who have advanced degrees. Look over the list and let us know why these people with advanced deg
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I am sure you can cherry pick actors who have degrees, the point is they are not any more qualified than a random person on the street to give an opinion, and given they are often paid to give that opinion, it means that opinion logically should mean less than some random person. Hell I wouldn't trust a doctor to give me advice on a medication, if I suspected they where receiving a kickback for recommending that medication.
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Because idolatry is alive and well, while actual information is hard to come by.
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I never got why actors and entertainers were considered sources of information or important opinions.
Sometimes they may have important opinions. For example, James Cameron was interviewed extensively about the Titanic sub disaster recently. While people may know him as a Hollywood producer and filmmaker, he has extensive experience with deep sea submersibles including piloting the record holder Deepsea Challenger [wikipedia.org] for the deepest dive.
Based on my experience they did all they could in school to avoid things like science and such yet they come forward as having something important to say about science, health, economics, etc. Their only qualification is entertaining. If they want to comment on tuning a guitar or studying scripts then I'll listen.
I would say to figure out their qualifications first before you assume they have none. Some of them do have qualifications. Some do not. Actress Mayim Balik used her backgroun
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Not liking comic books is a bad decision. It's deciding based on the media rather than on the contents.
(OTOH, I tend to avoid things that require JavaScript, but that's based on not trusting that the libraries they depend on haven't been maliciously updated. If that's a bad decision, please explain why.)
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I should clarify: I hate the whole subject matter. I don't like anything fantasy or fiction whatsoever.
It's a question of attack surface. JS (or WASM) is no more or less secure than programming languages X, Y, or Z. It's about what can be done. Also - I have 3 browsers installed in my phone for different "partitions" of my online life. In practice it works
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But not all comic books are fiction or fantasy. Did you ever encounter "The Cartoon History of the Universe"? (There are others, but that's the one I found best.)
Dental Plan! (Score:4, Funny)
But Lisa needs braces.
haha tom hanks wanks (Score:2)
I treat advice from the AI Tom Hanks same as the real Tom Hanks.
Why would I pay attention anyways? (Score:2)
Is Tom Hanks an authority on dental care?
I've never really understood why celebrity endorsements are considered credible. I don't know, Hanks isn't young any more so maybe he knows something about keeping his teeth healthy. OTOH, entertainment stars seem to do lots of things (like bleaching their teeth) which look good on screen but aren't great for long term health.
I'm going to continue using AdBlock and paying for commercial free streaming so I don't have sit through this nonsense. Now get off my lawn!
How long now? (Score:2)
How long before people are getting convicted of serious crimes because the AI version of themselves confessed on tape? Or because the defendant's face was successfully Deepfaked onto a real video of the crime?
Or people getting exonerated from crimes they did commit, because a true video record is successfully argued to create reasonable doubt since it could have been AI?
Countermeasures are going to be needed, and, as yet, I have absolutely no idea what they might look like, nor how well they might work.
Purple eyes (Score:2)
Mandate that all artificially created renderings of people must contain either purple or black eyes indicating that they are not real. Tom hanks with purple eyes.
Robot Insurance. (Score:2)
So Tom Selleck... (Score:1)
...isn't really selling reverse mortgages?
Is it really him? (Score:1)
I mean, it can be really difficult to deal with this kind of abuse if there is no clear statement that this is "the celebrity". I am not sure Tom Hanks had copyrighted his look...
Even if it was Tom Hanks... (Score:2)
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Except Troy McLure. "You may remember me from ..."