Airbnb's Naba Banerjee Reduced Partying By 55% In Two Years (cnbc.com) 71
Hayden Field writes via CNBC: Naba Banerjee is a proud party pooper. As the person in charge of Airbnb's worldwide ban on parties, she's spent more than three years figuring out how to battle party "collusion" by users, flag "repeat party houses" and, most of all, design an anti-party AI system with enough training data to halt high-risk reservations before the offender even gets to the checkout page. It's been a bit like a game of whack-a-mole: Whenever Banerjee's algorithms flag some concerns, new ones pop up.
Airbnb defines a party as a gathering that occurs at an Airbnb listing and "causes significant disruption to neighbors and the surrounding community," according to a company rep. To determine violations, the company considers whether the gathering is an open-invite one, and whether it involves excessive noise, trash, visitors, parking issues for neighbors, and other factors. Banerjee joined the company's trust and safety team in May 2020 and now runs that group. In her short time at the company, she's overseen a ban on high-risk reservations by users under age 25, a pilot program for anti-party AI in Australia, heightened defenses on holiday weekends, a host insurance policy worth millions of dollars, and this summer, a global rollout of Airbnb's reservation screening system.
Some measures have worked better than others, but the company says party reports dropped 55% between August 2020 and August 2022 -- and since the worldwide launch of Banerjee's system in May, more than 320,000 guests have been blocked or redirected from booking attempts on Airbnb. Overall, the company's business is getting stronger as the post-pandemic travel boom starts to fade. Last month, the company reported earnings that beat analysts' expectations on earnings per share and revenue, with the latter growing 18% year over year, despite fewer-than-expected numbers of nights and experiences booked via the platform.
Airbnb defines a party as a gathering that occurs at an Airbnb listing and "causes significant disruption to neighbors and the surrounding community," according to a company rep. To determine violations, the company considers whether the gathering is an open-invite one, and whether it involves excessive noise, trash, visitors, parking issues for neighbors, and other factors. Banerjee joined the company's trust and safety team in May 2020 and now runs that group. In her short time at the company, she's overseen a ban on high-risk reservations by users under age 25, a pilot program for anti-party AI in Australia, heightened defenses on holiday weekends, a host insurance policy worth millions of dollars, and this summer, a global rollout of Airbnb's reservation screening system.
Some measures have worked better than others, but the company says party reports dropped 55% between August 2020 and August 2022 -- and since the worldwide launch of Banerjee's system in May, more than 320,000 guests have been blocked or redirected from booking attempts on Airbnb. Overall, the company's business is getting stronger as the post-pandemic travel boom starts to fade. Last month, the company reported earnings that beat analysts' expectations on earnings per share and revenue, with the latter growing 18% year over year, despite fewer-than-expected numbers of nights and experiences booked via the platform.
Re:I am sure it will work! (Score:5, Interesting)
I have an Airbnb. Rather than saying "No parties", I say "$1000 fee for parties" in the terms. I only had one party since I added the fee, and they agreed to pay $500 after I threatened to appeal it to Airbnb. They woulda lost, since I had plenty of photos for evidence, and the party fee was clearly stated in the terms they agreed to.
Re:I am sure it will work! (Score:4, Interesting)
I have an Airbnb. Rather than saying "No parties", I say "$1000 fee for parties" in the terms.
So basically you're screwing your neighbours if the price is right? Lovely.
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He said "Here's $1000 reasons why no parties allowed". By putting a price on it, the party costs $1000 instead of costing "lol oops, want to see if you can prove any damages in court?".
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I think he's talking shit. The sheer number of different things he claims to be involved with is ridiculous.
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I have an Airbnb. Rather than saying "No parties", I say "$1000 fee for parties" in the terms. I only had one party since I added the fee, and they agreed to pay $500 after I threatened to appeal it to Airbnb. They woulda lost, since I had plenty of photos for evidence, and the party fee was clearly stated in the terms they agreed to.
The problem with that is:
1. In many countries it's not enforceable or so difficult to enforce that it's effectively not.
2. It will be abused, property owners will claim you had a party when you didn't and the T&Cs will put the onus on you to prove it.
Also 3. You can easily do more than US$1000 to a property with a slightly rambunctious party, let alone an actual wild one. Just breaking one fire door can easily eat more than a thousand bucks.
The problem is your neighbors (Score:2)
People often start fights & bring guns to events like that. Nobody wants that in their neighborhood.
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Plenty of photos?! How?
That's nice now go away (Score:5, Interesting)
What they're doing is or at least used to be until they started lobbying very illegal. We have zoning regulations for a reason.
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It devours housing resources
Obvious solution: Construct more housing.
We have zoning regulations for a reason.
That reason is mostly to keep low-income people out of "nice" neighborhoods by separating jobs from housing. If you have to drive everywhere, then you can't live there if you can't afford a car.
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It devours housing resources
Obvious solution: Construct more housing.
We have zoning regulations for a reason.
That reason is mostly to keep low-income people out of "nice" neighborhoods by separating jobs from housing. If you have to drive everywhere, then you can't live there if you can't afford a car.
Constructing more housing is -not- the solution. In the US, there are already more houses than homeless people. https://checkyourfact.com/2019... [checkyourfact.com] Reading elsewhere, it seems that the issue is that the empty houses are not in the places people want/need to live... I know I don't want to live in the outlying areas of east Austin, but that's where the sweetish spot of affordability/distance to the factory I work at is. No telecommute for me! Not sure what the ultimate solution would be. A nationwide plan to
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Re:That's nice now go away (Score:5, Insightful)
They're priced identically to real hotel rooms too, except, hotels don't give you a list of check-out chores. They have housekeeping for that. No hotel has ever demanded I strip beds and toss linens into the washing machine.
I think you're trivializing some of the benefits that come with an AirBnB. A hotel room will give you a room with one or two beds. If you're two couples trying to get away and have a good time, a hotel room is an awful setting. A two bedroom AirBnB with a common area is the perfect place for a few people to mingle without having to spend an exorbitant amount of money in restaurants or bars (where they can't even talk to each other) if they're getting together for a mini vacation in another town. What you have to realize is that one size (hotels) don't fit all.
Re: That's nice now go away (Score:2, Informative)
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A hotel room will give you a room with one or two beds.
You clearly don't look around for hotels much. Major chains have a large variety of options including separate bedrooms, kitchens, furnished apartments, and they aren't much more expensive than shitty AirBnBs after you take into account the endless list of fees that get lumped on top the the listing when you try and book.
And that's before you even bother to look at condos or other non-AirBnB short term rental options which exist.
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Condo/house style rooms from major hotel chains are rare as hen's teeth, and if you find a two-bedroom suite with a kitchenette, it's likely to be priced in the stratosphere if its even available.
Some resort areas have literal rental condos (like at a ski resort), but without using a third party service they're tough to come by in non-resort areas.
Some of the extended stay type hotels come kind of close -- I stayed at one recently, but its too open floor plan even if its just one couple staying there. The
You know they have larger Hotel rooms right? (Score:2)
I suppose if you've got 11 kids you might have problems, but if you have 11 kids, well, you have problems.
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The "investors" could be regular people who own an extra apartment, I think it is not right to restrict their right of use over their properties like that, if they don't cause a nuisance, just on principle. That apartment could be the result of years of hard work. Just build more & build smarter. Don't blame people who worked hard to buy something and then use their properties.
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The usage you desire is perfectly served by getting a suite, or by getting two adjacent hotel rooms and opening the door between them. I have attended so many room parties at furry conventions that were held in two adjacent rooms or in a suite.
You can also do things like go out to a park and chill together.
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What a myth. (Score:3, Informative)
>> It's blatantly illegal in most US cities
Land of the free.
What a myth.
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YEAH! Our land of the free should have no rules whatsoever!
Had a great AirBnB in Prague (Score:2)
Great apartment; good price, good location (easy tram ride to city centre). Owners ran a greasy spoon cafe downstairs.
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Market forces I suppose.
40% of homeless work full time (Score:2)
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A proper market for labour is not allowed to occur ever. Corporate profits might suffer.
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Airbnb is terrible for everyone except a handful of people getting rich off it.
Horsepucky, we have a cottage in the foothills of the Cascade Mountains, and for the last four years we've been renting it out through Airbnb when we're not using it. I have to admit that it's nice to have other people paying most of the mortgage most months.
We've had a few issues with parties over the years, but whatever Ms. Banerjee is doing seems to be working. This is the first summer without even a bridal shower (what is i
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Just pointing out that your "everyone" is incorrect, for us and for tens of thousands of other non-corporation people.
And sure, we could do it in a manner that is less efficient, gets fewer customers, has no protections (for us or for guests), no filtering of clients, and then we could figure out the tax implications (or, more likely, pay the fines when we did it wrong) and all the banking. I'm not a webmaster or a marketer, and starting from scratch with no experience in the hospitality industry is pretty
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We used to use webpages and telephone calls for such things.
You have clearly zero experience with short term rentals saying. No trust me you want a middle man. You don't want to dealing bounced checks and the like. You don't want phone calls asking when the last time you had the property swept for evil spirits was..
Before AirBnB you just paid some short term property management company that generally took a much larger cut.
Let's be honest here too, if the hospitality industry can be "destroyed" by what are effectively 'gig-workers' like the taxi industry seems to
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AirBnd and VRBO are shitty middlemen. They just connect people and offer some financial guarantees (which are necess
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Airbnb is terrible for everyone except a handful of people getting rich off it.
And the people doing the renting, otherwise they wouldn't be doing it. I go on getaways with my friends 2-3 times a year and we always get an AirBnB in hot spots outside Chicago in Michigan or Wisconsin. We rent a house, go out for the day and enjoy the town, go to a restaurant and eat, and come back to the place and drink into the wee hours of the morning, chatting and having a good time. It doesn't hurt anybody, and we wouldn't be able to spend a night or two together was it not for AirBnB. We'd have
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Airbnb is terrible for everyone except a handful of people getting rich off it. It devours housing resources and converts them into short term rental hotels making Airbnb the largest hotelier in the country without ever actually owning any hotels. It contributes to housing shortages and drives up pricing while chasing out useful people from your community. And it leads to urban sprawl and worse traffic jams because instead of all your tourists being in a hotel district they're now spread all over your city driving in rental cars to get wherever they were going.
What they're doing is or at least used to be until they started lobbying very illegal. We have zoning regulations for a reason.
TBF, AirBNB isn't a hotelier, it's a booking agent same as Expedia or Priceline. They don't own any of the stock they sell either.
If people are buying up property exclusively for short term lets, AirBNB isn't at fault here as they'll just move onto the next platform (including Expedia/Priceline) if you punish AirBNB for it. You need to, erm... actually enforce those zoning laws you said are there for a reason. However in the US this means punishing rich white businessmen and that is, as far as I can tell
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LOL
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Not really. An Airbnb collapse won't fix America's housing shortage. [vox.com] It's just a convenient scapegoat because of the other problems it causes.
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The Future of Default Behavior. (Score:2)
"To determine violations, the company considers whether the gathering is an open-invite one..."
Can afford to come out of pocket thousands on credit to rent a home large enough to hold the balls it takes to host an open-invite party in a home you don't even own...
"...more than 320,000 guests have been blocked or redirected from booking attempts on Airbnb.."
Seems more and more are proving why being respectful or even slightly trusting by default, is a futile effort.
Family Guy summed up AirBnB perfectly (Score:3)
AirBnB... What are you doing?? It's your house! [youtube.com]
Umm. Great job I guess? (Score:5, Insightful)
> the company says party reports dropped 55% between August 2020 and August 2022
So we're just going to completely ignore that fact that time period included a global pandemic with lockdowns and bans on gatherings? I mean did this bitch start Covid-19 herself just to improve her numbers?
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This is the first summer in four years that we haven't been stuck with an unexpected party, whatever Ms. Banerjee is doing seems to be working for us.
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No, her AI did.
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So we're just going to completely ignore that fact that time period included a global pandemic with lockdowns and bans on gatherings?
Why wouldn't we? I mean most people did. Just because something was banned doesn't mean it wasn't done. In some cases it even resulted in the stepping down of the prime minister of a country with 67million population.
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These metrics sound facetious (Score:3)
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AirPnP solution needed! (Score:2)
Time for another startup - Air Party Places or similar.
Partying away seems to be a real need, thus there must be money made by it.
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That is what spring break hotels are for?
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People rent out AirBnB for parties because it's a cheap rate to pay for an event center where they can have a knock-down late night party. They can make money at the door ($20, $50, whatever per person), at their improvised bar (no liquor taxes or liquor licenses), and potentially as a cut of the illicit dealer's take. It's a lucrative hustle.
Try to find somewhere to do that without paying thousands up front, often with extensive cleaning and damage contract clauses. You won't.
Off the list (Score:1)
She reduced partying 55% in two years?
She's off my party list.
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He'll fight for your right (Score:2)
to not party.