Haha so what they're subsidized. So are Ford, Chrysler/Dodge, and Chevy.

Just like everything else from USA, it's meant to kill domestic manufacturers and make the world reliant on USA and subject to the whims of the GOP.

It's not in the interest of anyone living outside of USA to buy these cars. USA doesn't care about you. The GOP doesn't care about you. It doesn't care about making a good product. They only want your money. The GOP is perfectly happy to lie, cheat, steal, and fuck over your country to make money, obtain, and hold power.

I have an EV. I spend way less on electricity to charge it than I did with gas in my old ICE car 2 years ago.

Show me where any of the people killed by ICE threatened the lives of the officers involved... I'll wait...

Umm have you not been paying attention? ICE has been grabbing travelers for no reason and depriving them of their freedom for weeks or months before being released without charges. This article is from almost a year ago and it has only gotten worse since then. https://www.usatoday.com/story...

Ah, so you just use paper maps on your current trips?

In my case, I did the 1500 miles in 2 days (so 2 days out, then 2 days back), sleeping at a hotel halfway through. I found stopping to charge coincided well with when I needed a bio-break or snack/meal, so would stop, charge, stretch my legs, and take care of whatever needed to be taken care of. Depending on the amount to charge and quality of the charger, stops took between 10-30 mins. Compared to my past trips in an ICE, I somehow felt less drained at the end of the day, maybe because I was stretching my legs more often.

The best way to figure out how a road trip would look is to use https://abetterrouteplanner.co... This is what I used before getting the EV to plan all the various trips I thought I'd want to do and see if they were possible. It'll tell you where to stop for each charge and for how long. It works best if you can choose a car so it knows your charging and discharge rates. Currently, the Hyundai and Kia EVs have some of the best charging speeds (at least in the US), so choosing an Ioniq 5 or EV6 would give you an idea on the faster side of things.

My car was leased for $6k (total cost) for 2 years, plus I got 2 years of free fast charging on one of the major charging networks. Though I only used that free charging on the road trips... 99% of the time I've charged at home which has averaged $20/month. So I'd say my TCO for this vehicle has been very good.

Your second reason is invalid and shows you do not actually have any experience with EVs but just parrot talking points. I've gone on two long road trips (3000+ miles each) in the last 6 months with my EV and had zero problems charging or finding chargers. And this is through states like Nebraska, Texas, Louisiana, Iowa, etc. You can get pretty much anywhere in the US with an EV these days.

I leased an EV 2 years ago. 99% of the time, it is charged at home and has been completely sufficient for all my daily trips plus longer trips to/from the airport (60ish miles each way). I have also taken the EV on two long road trips (3000+ miles round trip each) with absolutely zero issues charging or finding charging infrastructure. After driving this car, I have zero desire to ever get an ICE vehicle again.

The thing is, a gas station in the middle of nowhere is going to have to be more expensive considering they will have to run the fuel trucks to get that much gas there.

Tell that to the people in Norway where EV adoption is through the roof...

Guess you've never heard of human trafficking.

Calories in vs calories out is a total oversimplification. Its like the 'assume a spherical cow' meme in physics.

Sure, technically calories in/out is how it works, but there's no way for an average person to calculate that. Calories in will vary based on the person's gut biome, composition of the food, insulin response, and a ton of other things. Likewise with calories out... metabolisms are constantly changing and will adjust based on an increase or decrease in calories. Plus, the mechanisms of how the body signals fat cells to store fat is extremely variable based on hormones, genetic makeup, and other factors. Finally, the number of fat cells in a body varies by person -- generally the amount is constant after adolescence and it is only the size of fat cells that changes with any significant weight loss.

Classic conservative playbook... starve government entities of funding and then complain that they don't work well.

The Trump administration doesn't agree with you. They are forcing old, outdated, or broken coal plants to stay open, seemingly to please the coal industry: https://www.nytimes.com/2026/0...