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Drought in Taiwan Pits Chip Makers Against Farmers (nytimes.com) 50

smooth wombat writes: Chuang Cheng-deng's modest rice farm is a stone's throw from the nerve center of Taiwan's computer chip industry, whose products power a huge share of the world's iPhones and other gadgets. This year, Mr. Chuang is paying the price for his high-tech neighbors' economic importance. Gripped by drought and scrambling to save water for homes and factories, Taiwan has shut off irrigation across tens of thousands of acres of farmland. The authorities are compensating growers for the lost income. But Mr. Chuang, 55, worries that the thwarted harvest will drive customers to seek out other suppliers, which could mean years of depressed earnings. "The government is using money to seal farmers' mouths shut," he said, surveying his parched brown fields.

Officials are calling the drought Taiwan's worst in more than half a century. And it is exposing the enormous challenges involved in hosting the island's semiconductor industry, which is an increasingly indispensable node in the global supply chains for smartphones, cars and other keystones of modern life. Chip makers use lots of water to clean their factories and wafers, the thin slices of silicon that form the basis of the chips. And with worldwide semiconductor supplies already strained by surging demand for electronics, the added uncertainty about Taiwan's water supply is not likely to ease concerns about the tech world's reliance on the island and on one chip maker in particular: Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company.

More than 90 percent of the worldâ(TM)s manufacturing capacity for the most advanced chips is in Taiwan and run by TSMC, which makes chips for Apple, Intel and other big names. The company said last week that it would invest $100 billion over the next three years to increase capacity, which will likely further strengthen its commanding presence in the market. TSMC says the drought has not affected its production so far. But with Taiwan's rainfall becoming no more predictable even as its tech industry grows, the island is having to go to greater and greater lengths to keep the water flowing. In recent months, the government has flown planes and burned chemicals to seed the clouds above reservoirs. It has built a seawater desalination plant in Hsinchu, home to TSMC's headquarters, and a pipeline connecting the city with the rainier north. It has ordered industries to cut use. In some places it has reduced water pressure and begun shutting off supplies for two days each week. Some companies, including TSMC, have hauled in truckloads of water from other areas.

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  • Since they made so much money from wasting silicon production on mining asics and gpus which could have been reduced to save water, they should be liable for paying for extra water imports. Or will they be selling bottled water as NFTs?
    • by mysidia ( 191772 ) on Friday April 09, 2021 @02:35PM (#61256352)

      Since they made so much money from wasting silicon production on mining asics

      Actually, they're not wasting that silicon as they aren't throwing it away -- Smartphone manufacturers, on the other hand, are far more wasteful with their product lifecycles of "2 years of updates, then it's EOL trash, and throw it away".

      Only the buyer of the product gets to determine whether it was a waste or not, anyways.

      • because the ASICs are basically useless for anything but Crypto mining, and Crypto mining adds no value to human civilization. It's being used for money laundering, purchasing illegal drugs and as a speculative tool in "Greater Fool" investment schemes.

        It's not even useful as a means of escaping the problems with fiat currencies, since it's so easy to do currency manipulation on crypto currencies as to make them useless.

        Crypto is one of the worst things to happen to human civilization since mechaniz
        • by Guspaz ( 556486 )

          There aren't any significant amounts of crypto ASICs being made at the moment, though that's largely because fabs like TSMC view them as non-recurring customers and are assigning them very low priority at a time when their capacity is far below demand.

    • The chip fab should use sea water instead of fresh water. They have to do expensive filtering anyway, it would be a tiny extra cost. And their used water can be used for irrigation. The contamination is at the parts per million level, already better than drinking water standards.
  • by Ostracus ( 1354233 ) on Friday April 09, 2021 @02:43PM (#61256366) Journal

    Somewhere, somewhere in all this story should be the one about recycling water.

    • Somewhere, somewhere in all this story should be the one about recycling water.

      Recycling only makes sense if the cost of recycling water is lower than the cost of reducing waste.

      Since the biggest waste is growing subsidized rice, the cost of reducing waste is less than zero. Ending the waste will actually save money.

      • by ffkom ( 3519199 )
        Also, desalination of ocean water might be significantly more expensive than just catching falling rain, but it is not like outlandish expensive, relative to the prices of micro chips.
        • Also, desalination of ocean water might be significantly more expensive than just catching falling rain, but it is not like outlandish expensive, relative to the prices of micro chips.

          The cost needs to be compared to the bottom of the market, not the top.

          Is desalination of ocean water a cost-effective way to flood a rice paddy?

      • by hey! ( 33014 )

        Whether it's waste is a value judgment. Many countries, including the US, subsidize food for national security concerns. Granted, these concerns aren't always entirely rational (the US is a case in point) but in the case of *Taiwan*, feeling uncertain about food imports is at least understandable.

        • Many countries, including the US, subsidize food for national security concerns.

          The US subsidizes agriculture for political reasons.

          Presidential campaigns start in Iowa.

          • by hey! ( 33014 )

            I wouldn't argue with that. But Taiwan's security concerns are more genuine.

          • If a job isn't worth paying a living wage (without subsidies) then it's a burden on your country and should go away.
          • by stikves ( 127823 )

            Actually farm subsidies - in general - are because the food is *too cheap*. We artificially increase the price of food so that the remaining 1% working on agriculture can sustain themselves. (Not talking about the mega-farms here. Go talk to a small local farmer in California and see how much they can make).

            But... we also do subsidize the wrong behavior. All those corn syrup came because we did not allow importing sugar (tariffs, ahem). That part is not defendable.

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    • That's where TSMC is located. TSMC is basically the largest chip manufacturer in the world (or close to it).

    • Does Taiwan have the secret recipe and wonâ(TM)t let anyone see it?

      Yes. TSMC knows how to make 5 nm ICs. They are working on 3 nm.

      How they do it is a trade secret.

      The only other company in the world that comes close is Samsung in Korea. But Samsung does not have the yields or capacity of TSMC.

      The solution to the water problem is to stop subsidizing water-wasting crops. By far, the biggest problem is rice. The farmers should shift to less thirsty and more profitable crops like fruit and vegetables. Taiwan can import rice from Thailand or Vietnam.

      • Re:Why Taiwan? (Score:5, Informative)

        by Jarik C-Bol ( 894741 ) on Friday April 09, 2021 @03:20PM (#61256490)
        Rice does not actually need to be grown in water like the stereotypical depiction of the “rice paddy”. It is not an aquatic plant, it is a land grass that simply tolerates submersion well. The water is used as a weed control, as most pest weeds will not grow in flooded conditions. Depending on the cultivar and conditions, Upland rice yields are 50% to 200% paddy rice yields. Of course, it has its own challenges, weeds and blast fungus, and cultivars are being developed to address these. Interesting reading out there on the subject.
        • It is true that rice does not need to be submerged. But the cultivars grown in Taiwan are paddy-based, and the hilly terrain does not favor upland rice.

          Economically, it makes no sense for Taiwan to grow so much rice, even without water scarcity. The subsidized cost is way above the import price. Thailand and Vietnam have big surpluses, partially because of their own idiotic subsidy schemes.

          Taiwan's "food security" issue is better addressed with a six-month stockpile than with subsidies.

          • No. Any island nation should maintain food production capacity that can feed their population, at least to the point that a major global disaster or war won't make them starve to death.

      • The solution to the water problem is to stop subsidizing water-wasting crops. By far, the biggest problem is rice. The farmers should shift to less thirsty and more profitable crops like fruit and vegetables. Taiwan can import rice from Thailand or Vietnam.

        Rule 1: NEVER do things that make your staple grain an IMPORT!!!

        Trust me, it's a bad idea in the long run. And the short run....

      • Re:Why Taiwan? (Score:4, Informative)

        by Sleeping Kirby ( 919817 ) on Friday April 09, 2021 @10:00PM (#61257422)

        The solution to the water problem is to stop subsidizing water-wasting crops. By far, the biggest problem is rice. The farmers should shift to less thirsty and more profitable crops like fruit and vegetables. Taiwan can import rice from Thailand or Vietnam.

        Hey, Taiwanese in Taiwan here. The problem isn't subsidization. I'm not even sure they're being subsidized for growing a specific crop. The problem is more nuanced than that. Rice is part of our daily diet, from the rice bowl dishes to popped rice to rice noodles, etc. Also, no one here buys rice (generalized statement, not absolute statement) from thailand or vietnam because it's just not as good. It would be like telling all of america to stop eating beef in all together and, instead, replace it with chicken. I know it's hard to imagine, but even I, who lives in Taipei, has met the rice grower that I buy my rice from from Tai Dong. Much of our economy, especially food, is very very local. This is part of why, even when China bans imports of pineapples or international travel and trade is restricted, we can carry on with a good amount of resiliency.

        Besides, it's not an all or nothing thing. Average complaints in mandarin often gets translated to sound harsher than it is in english. The statement from the farmer isn't a warning or a prediction, but a worry. There's nothing to say that this will make all farmers quit farming tomorrow. There's nothing to say people will switch to foreign rice at all (I know I won't.). The government has made good strides here to help them out recently (within the last 2~3 decades). Local promotion, special health insurance, banks and credit unions, specialized tax codes, etc. And despite what the article said, there have been some young people that decided to do farming instead of a white collar job because it is their passion and more personally satisfying. From tea leaves to fruits to, yes, rice and wheat. So it's less like "government bad, farmers good." It's more like "these are the procedures that helped in the past but hurting now. What can be changed or how can we look at a problem differently to make a better outcome?" Because, in the end, both chip making and farmers are important. Either can't survive without the other.

        And, I hate to say this, but articles from NYT about taiwan needs to be taken with a grain of salt. They've written stories about taiwan with a wide amount of inaccuracies before. They've also written stories about china that fully lean into their propaganda. For one thing a lot of the farms here use natural pesticide methods so I'm not sure if the quote from the story is accurate. The other is that one of the most established departments in the best university of Taiwan is the agriculture department. Agriculture importance has a long history here. It won't just go away overnight.

    • Actually yes. And Intel would really like the recipe and the chefs but can't seem to replicate it. The chip industry I'd estimate is the most demanding manufacturing industry in the world.
      • And the government of the country of Taiwan know their military support from USA is more dependable if they have something the USA needs.
        • by ghoul ( 157158 )
          They already have something America needs - a cause which lets the US military justify billions in spending in Asia.
    • by jythie ( 914043 )
      Making chips requires chip manufacturing facilities,which are in taiwan.
  • among ourselves and do something about these constant droughts. Of course thanks to politics and propaganda half the world isn't even allowed to talk about them.
    • Over a long enough time period everywhere on the planet will eventually have a drought. You can't continually have above average anything.

      Also, who isn't allowed to talk about this? Presumably neither of us are in the half of the world that can't since we're talking about it right here. Further, what the hell do you propose we do in order to "do something" about the problem? Droughts will occur naturally irrespective of climate change, and if you think humans will ever magically agree to how the weather
      • by Jzanu ( 668651 )
        Notice that your first point negates the rest of your dollop, "over a long enough time period". We're not talking millennia here, or even centuries, but months, years, and decades -- significantly shorter time periods. Scale matters. Crops and even businesses require seasonal stability at minimum. That is what is disrupted by global warming, to the point that its influence is documented by the increased frequency of self-preservation mandated population shifts called migration, and observed in the competiti
  • Until more fabricators come online elsewhere, it seems logical to pay off the farmers, import food which is pretty much grown everywhere, and make chips with the water.

    • I was lucky enough to take a university course on global water issues fairly recently. It was fascinating. My take-away was that agriculture was pretty much the worst use of water from an economic perspective. From a sustainability perspective irrigation was also one of the worst uses of water as the water used in irrigation can mostly be used only once (most is lost to evaporation, run-off, or seepage below the reach of plant roots). Worse, irrigation leads to a build up of salts in the soil. On the other

    • Pay the farmers. Farmers yields will be poorer regardless. Chips can increase price help subsidize. When rain picks up go back to farming. In meantime need to not bankrupt the farmers.
    • Can't the farmers use the waste water from the chip fab for irrigation? It's ultra pure water with trace elements.
  • The China Threat (Score:5, Insightful)

    by labnet ( 457441 ) on Friday April 09, 2021 @04:17PM (#61256684)

    TSMC controls about 50% of the die market and the majority of the advanced node 7nm and 5nm. Intel has only just got 10nm working after many years of trying.
    If China moves against Taiwan, say goodbye to your latest iPhones and AMD processors.

    Yes TSMC is now building a tier one plant in the USA, but there will remain significant global capacity in Taiwan and China that will have a massive impact on global supply chains if war breaks out.

    At least COVID has served as an early warning to the fragility of having China as such a critical part of global manufacturing.

  • The water used for this manufacturing process doesn't (as far as I know) disappear, so is there any reason why it couldn't be used to water the crop after it's been used to cool the machine or whatever it's doing inside of the factory?

    • Plants don't like scalding water. Nor do aquatic animals. You need to meter it out into the local water system slowly enough not to kill everything. In a drought, there's less cool water available for this.

      • You do it the other way around (likely trace heavy metals in the factory waste). The factory treats the water anyway, so not a huge issue for them, maybe just an extra pre-treatment step.

      • A simple series of ponds solves that issue. Could even look like rice paddies.
  • Still growing rice in dirt? Thats the problem.
  • The fabs could easily use recycled water, or even salt water for their needs, since they are treating it anyway. Strange this is such a problem.

    Also strange that there aren’t more major chip fabs elsewhere... but hey.

  • I've visited Taiwan several times on business. The country lacks even a purified water infrastructure for human consumption of water. One dare not drink what comes out of a hotel faucet or run the risk of obtaining diarrhea. It's similar to Mexico.

    Bottled water or boiled water only in Taiwan.

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