A Decade of Dreadful Microsoft Ads 220
Barence writes "PC Pro has rounded up the most howlingly awful examples of ads churned out by Microsoft over the past decade. The selection includes the cringe-worthy Gates & Seinfeld ads — where Gates looks like he’s delivering his lines with the help of a cattle prod — to the terrible Windows 7 party ads (an 'F1 key for social inadequates,' according to PC Pro), to the one that got away: an excellent in-house training video produced by The Office's Ricky Gervais."
Is that Windows 1.0 commercial real? (Score:3, Interesting)
I've seen that Windows 1.0 video before, but is that a real commercial? I don't think I have ever seen any authoritative source information included with it. It looks more like a humorous self-parody that was made much later.
On a side note: if it is real, did Balmer ever have hair?
Re:Is that Windows 1.0 commercial real? (Score:5, Funny)
But wait, there's more! If you think that one looks like a parody check out this classic DOS 5 upgrade commercial [youtube.com].
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Re:Is that Windows 1.0 commercial real? (Score:5, Funny)
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Reminds me of Don't Copy that Floppy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=up863eQKGUI [youtube.com]
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Reminds me pretty much of everything from that time. Prince of Bel Air intro [youtube.com] is quite similar in style with the DOS 5.0 commercial too.
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But have you seen Jimmy Fallon as Neil Diamond doing the Prince of Bel Air theme song?
http://warmingglow.uproxx.com/2009/11/well-played-jimmy-fallon-2 [uproxx.com]
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Probably not, since hulu expired the video.
Got another link?
Re:Is that Windows 1.0 commercial real? (Score:5, Informative)
Once it was possible for these things to leak onto the Internet, I think they quit doing them.
--Greg
Re:Is that Windows 1.0 commercial real? (Score:4, Informative)
My favorite spoof was of a VW commercial (I think?) where two guys are drove around, goofed off, picked up a couch that smelled funny, leave it by the side of the road, etc. In the spoof, Gates and Ballmer and driving around, goofing off (Gates plays with a bobblehead doll and shakes his head in the same fashion). They pick up a Sun server, thinks it smells funny, and leave it in the trash.
Hm.. guess I can see why they wouldn't want that leaked, they'd get sued.
I remember many videos that were tie-ins to movies: dance videos (Men in Black, but with different lyrics), a funny one spoofing Austin Powers with Ballmer as Dr. Evil.
Some of the fake ad/morale event/company meeting videos were really funny!
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I remember that one! Here it is [relitech.com].
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What about the 7 second ads? (Score:2)
Yes, I know Windows 7 is actually good, but the ads don't really tell us why.
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The two I've seen both talk about a feature that I assume is part of the "actually good" thing.
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Hello, I'm a Mac.
And I'm a PC.
... wait, you already know where I'm going with this.
I Really Liked the Seinfeld Ads (Score:3, Interesting)
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I agree, and they're quite different from other ads too. Seinfeld is one of my all time favorite shows, so those ads were interesting in that regard too.
Re:I Really Liked the Seinfeld Ads (Score:4, Funny)
It's funny that one person modded me Flamebait. C'mon, self-deprecating humor is refreshing for one of the world's richest and most recognized people, right? You also mean Bill Gates' last day [youtube.com] sucks too?!
And the Linux ads? (Score:4, Insightful)
Missed some bad Microsoft ads (Score:5, Funny)
They missed some hideously-bad ads for Microsoft.
My favorite "bad Microsoft ad" is a 2000 TV ad, which uses the musical theme of "Confutatis Maledictis" from Mozart's Requiem [fitug.de]. The screen says "Where do you want to go today?" while the chorus sings "Confutatis maledictis, flammis acribus addictis" ("The damned and accursed are convicted to the flames of Hell").
There's also a 2009 ad featuring a vomiting woman [guardian.co.uk].
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"Bobcat Goldthwait - a veteran of the Police Academy movies"
Well that explains the lack of humour.
Three Words (Score:2)
Shakes the Clown
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Never shake a clown. It's like getting gremlins wet. Just don't do it.
Microsoft's Most Effective Ads (Score:5, Interesting)
When I play with Windows 7 and the new Office Beta, I see dozens of my pet peeves fixed, and I'll give a lot of credit to those Mac vs. PC ads. The most effective ads for Microsoft -- ever!
--Greg (In some sense of "for" of course) :-)
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a lot of it is perception
apps like Google desktop became popular so MS put the functionality in Vista. when the crap that is Google desktop slows down your PC it's OK because it's cool when Google organizes your data. when the MS indexing service did it in Vista it was crap because it was Microsoft.
same thing with Apple. when people got viruses pirating some Mac software it was their fault since p2p is dangerous. when people do the same thing on Windows it means MS sucks
i'll probably get a Mac next year jus
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same thing with Apple. when people got viruses pirating some Mac software it was their fault since p2p is dangerous. when people do the same thing on Windows it means MS sucks
You know what else is dangerous? Entering your Administrator password when installing pirated software downloaded through p2p.
Apple can't fix stupid.
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It's OK when it's You (Score:3, Insightful)
apps like Google desktop became popular so MS put the functionality in Vista. when the crap that is Google desktop slows down your PC it's OK because it's cool when Google organizes your data.
No, it was OK because I chose to install Google Desktop, or not. Indexing came enabled by default by Vista, I didn't chose to have it so much as I had to go out of the way to not have it. Yes it's simple to disable but the ease of that does not enter in the equation.
What is not, and has not ever, been OK is to have
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So you have it installed? What exact use do you get out of Google Desktop?
I ask because I remember installing it a long while ago but I didn't keep it long for whatever reason now long forgotten. I guess I'm looking for an anecdote regarding it's abilities and how they're used on a regular basis.
It's Protection! Like a Condom (Score:4, Insightful)
I set it up the first thing that pisses me off is typing in the admin password every time i install something.
And you prefer the way Microsoft does it because you.... like.... applications installed and running without your knowing? Or you are employed by an antivirus provider or something?
the way the Mac fanboys made it seem is that apple magically protected its OS without me having to do anything
UAC is not Unix-like. UAC is a wrapper around the same horrible implementation of Microsoft's security scheme. So, there is still silent escalation among other things not yet understood. Let this moment stand as the first time UAC is compared to a condom that leaks.
So, yes, there is protection. Just like a condom. You have to type in your password to take the condom off. Otherwise, you are free to use the Internets with no fears commonly associated with Microsoft's STD's.
Re:It's Protection! Like a Condom (Score:4, Insightful)
And you prefer the way Microsoft does it because you.... like.... applications installed and running without your knowing? Or you are employed by an antivirus provider or something?
Did you miss the part where he had UAC turned-on in Windows?
He's complaining that at least UAC is a simple "yes/no" permission grant, where Apple's mechanism requires you type your password. (At least that's how I read it.)
UAC is not Unix-like.
Yeah; for one thing it can automatically determine when a app needs elevation instead of Unix-like method of the app shitting all over itself, then you know to re-run it with elevation only after it fails. From my perspective, UAC is better than Unix-like implementations.
UAC is a wrapper around the same horrible implementation of Microsoft's security scheme.
How is it horrible? You can assign much finer-grained security permissions to many more objects than in Unix-like OSes. So, again, from my perspective, Microsoft's security scheme is significantly better than Unix-like implementations.
So, there is still silent escalation among other things not yet understood.
If you don't understand it, maybe you should figure it out instead of just implying that *everybody* is as ignorant as you.
There is no silent escalation-- you have to prove claims like that, you can't just write your train-of-thought directly to the screen.
So, yes, there is protection. Just like a condom. You have to type in your password to take the condom off.
If you like typing a password, you can easily set UAC to require one also. In which case, there's absolutely *no* difference whatsoever between Apple and Microsoft's implementation-- oh, except to raving fanboys like you, the Apple one is "good" and the Microsoft one is "bad".
Re:It's OK when it's You (Score:5, Informative)
um bullshit.
90% of all OSX software installs to the applications directory and DO NOT REQUIRE admin password for install.
the only apps that need admin acces are ones that try to install services or files to the system folder.
Did you even use a mac or are you making this stuff up? Because in the last 5 years of OSX use at home and work I have NEVER ran into what you are talking about except for highly system invasive apps.
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If you run as a user with the "Allow user to administer this computer" checked, then, yes, installations to the Applications folder don't require a password. If, on the other hand, you have an admin only account, and run as a user, then, yes, you will need the password.
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"same thing with Apple. when people got viruses pirating some Mac software it was their fault"
Or it would be, if that had ever actually happened.
"a lot of the old time Mac fanboys are noticing and complaining"
Such as?
Seriously, how did parent get modded up?
The Windows/386 Ad (Score:2)
IANAL, but after the 7min mark, is considered a crime against humanity in most civilized nations.
The Decade of Microsoft (Score:5, Informative)
Personal
XP released in 2001, is still going strong and will be for quite some time.
7 released in 2009, is going strong and has received great reviews.
Professional
Server 2003 released in 2003, is still going strong and will be for quite some time.
Server 2008 released in 2008, is going strong and has received great reviews.
There was the Vista speed bump but overall this was without a doubt a Microsoft decade.
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If the double-zeros belonged to anyone, it had to be Google. They went from nothing to a household word, and they didn't even have to advertise to do it.
--Greg
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It's still going strong not because XP is a great OS, but because there was nothing to replace it with until Windows 7 came along. If you wanted to run Windows, you had to run XP -- you had no choice.
Contrast that with Apple that's had several major OS upgrades since OS X came out.
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And also abandoned a large swath of users.
I love my mac, but I am pissed that they flipped all us PPC hardware owners the bird. Not all of us Apple users have buckets of money laying around.
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There's no compelling reason for the average user to upgrade to Snow Leopard: it adds little to Leopard. Leopard still runs on PPC and will be a great OS for years to come. Is there something that your current PPC/Leopard Mac doesn't do for you?
Also, PPC owners have known about the transition (and eventual abandonment) since 2005. They've had nearly half a decade to save up
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Maybe once SP2 happened, but the fact that the phrase "blue screen of death" is known by just about everybody is because XP started out as a crappy OS. XP also doesn't have things that other OSs have had for years, e.g., application-binary caching, symbolic links, the default user not having administrator privileges.
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Microsoft is still a very profitable behemoth, but in this decade, Windows Mobile has been seen largely as a flop and some suggest it may be dropped completely.
Microsoft paid for exclusive titles for the XBox platform like mad, which had hardware failures like mad, and the XBox division just hermorhages money left and right.
The Zune is regularly mocked as a weak immitator to the iPod (though I wish my iPhone had an OLED screen).
Microsoft lost OS market share to Apple, lost massive browser share to Firefox,
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No, it really wasn't, because the 90's were when Microsoft's dominance was on the upswing and they seemed invincible. (Windows 3.1, 95, NT4, Office 95, IE, etc). Now they're slipping on many fronts (Windows Vista, IE marketshare, Office 11, Silverlight, WMP/WMV/Zune, etc). They haven't lost yet, but only because they have so far to fall.
Seriously, the only bright spots for Microsoft this decade where they've improved over last are the Windows Server line and the XBox.
Hey come on! (Score:2, Funny)
A Decade of Dreadful Microsoft Ads (Score:2)
Ricky Gervais made two of those... (Score:4, Informative)
Both are excellent comedy imho.
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yup, my favourite bit was right at the end of the first video: "its rubbish, it doesn't work and its full of viruses". Seems they saved a bit of truth after all the funny stuff :)
Come to think of it, there was a fair bit of other things I think 'softies should consider to be truths: "keep your good ideas to yourself, make them work for you and maybe set up a rival company". That's what made the Office such good comedy, it was based so much on a solid foundation of things everyone knows.
The Apple Ads Are Bad In Their Own Way (Score:3, Insightful)
Lots of people like the Apple "I'm a Mac" ads but I find them to be terrible for a different reason. I think elevating your product relative to your competitor by calling them down directly is mean-spirited and low.
To me those ads make Apple seem slimy. They are what you get when you take an American political attack ad, throw in some whimsy, and add a generous helping of conceited snobbery.
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But Apple is so clever at reversing that strategy. It is always the PC who comes to the Mac and tries to bully them saying how they are superior. The Mac takes the abuse, plays the nice guy, and comes out on top.
Even though Apple is slamming Microsoft in these ads, they play themselves off as the victim. It is the most clever mud-slinging campaign I've ever seen. It really is brilliant.
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I agree that Apple computers are over-priced. But people don't always go for the cheapest product.
Toyota sales keep rising and rising. They don't make cheap cars. In fact, their cars are often the most expensive in their respective classes. People want to pay for quality.
There is also a notion of prestige pricing, where people feel better if they pay more. A $500 purse likely isn't any better than a $50 purse, but my wife will feel better buying a $500 purse, because of prestige pricing.
With their pricing,
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The whole point of those ads is to point out the flaws in Windows that people take for granted, and say "it doesn't have to be that way".
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Ummm, might I recommend you not have kids then. Kids can and will put their hands, face, feet, or just about anything, in the wrong places.
But ya, that add was stupid.
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That is the point they are supposed to identify with PC. Then you see how he is suffering but doesn't realize it. But you being the outside person may realize that you are suffering.
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On the topic of slimy apple, I also got a piece of spam from them the day after xmas with the title "Wasn't under the tree? Get it now from the Apple Store"
You wouldn't have gotten that email unless you opted-in to receive Apple's emails. Therefore, it's not spam.
Microsoft succeeds because of "Marketing" (Score:5, Interesting)
In the early days of Linux (and still somewhat not, though less common) a common thread here on Slashdot was that Microsoft succeeded because of 'marketing'. What about dinosaurs with neckties made you want to buy Office? Or some girl projectile vomiting made you think IE was a good browser?
Microsoft succeeded by knowing that network effects are important, and making sure everyone who could possibly run their software had it, thereby locking them in for the long term. Once they had that dominance, then they could force people to do things illegally. For those that simply say 'monopoly' and do no other analysis, remember in the early days Microsoft was just one of a few companies, and only once network effects started rolling in did they achieve dominance where they could dictate.
Linux did itself no favors by screaming 'marketing' every time there was a comparison against Windows when they could have thought how to get those network effects and push out on the desktop somewhat.
Re:Microsoft succeeds because of "Marketing" (Score:5, Insightful)
As long as Linux can't run the majority of the required software and devices it won't matter how good or bad its marketing is.
Linux can't run your devices (Score:4, Informative)
I'm not sure if people realize it, but the device portion is largely taken care of.
Try upgrading to Windows 7 today, and notice that suddenly your printer or web cam no longer work, because there are no drivers, especially since OEMs are pushing x64 bit versions of Windows 7.
Conversely, Linux supports more hardware than any OS on the planet, from small embedded devices, legacy hardware, desktops, servers, tablets, phones, to super-computers.
The 2.6.33-rc1 kernel even has an OSS Nvidia driver built in now. Most Nvidia and ATI hardware should work out of the box without proprietary drivers (not that I'm opposed to proprietary drivers if they truly work better).
I find most hardware just works out of the box with no work in Linux, but I find myself hunting for drivers in Windows all the time. People are stuck in this mindset that Linux hardware support is lacking, but that just isn't the case.
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I'm writing this from my Linux machine at work. It was purchased by my office and I was told "here's your machine, enjoy". There were no considerations on "does this work" on any components. And oddly enough, everything works, just like just about every component I've used for a long time.
I upgraded two machines to Win7, and both of them had problems with the existing hardware. Two different devices where the manufacturers don't support anything higher than 32 bit Windows XP
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Linux can run the majority of hardware. in fact it runs more devices than Windows Vista or 7 can use.
Dont believe me? I've got 5 scanners that are not Vista or 7 compatible, yet hey work perfectly under linux.
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Marketing is more than advertising, which is just a sub-set of marketing. Marketing is also about closing sales and landing exclusive contracts. Microsoft did a great job of positioning themselves in their respective markets and strong-arming the competition.
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The network effect was critical, but they got that going through marketing. They spent years strapping rockets to pigs in order to capture the network effect. By the time /. started, they were well into enjoying that network effect that marketing (and a number of unethical business practices) helped them to establish.
Linux, having no marketing budget has had to go with guerrilla marketing. All things considered, it's done quite well for itself, it just hasn't cracked the desktop yet.
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a shorter list -- how about good advertising? (Score:4, Interesting)
I like informative advertising -- here's the products, here's the pricing. Grocery store inserts in the paper are very useful advertising. This also extends to informing people about a product. "Did you know this was available? Now you do and know where to get it if you want it." Direct, honest, acceptable. Persuasive advertising makes me see red, the stuff that's trying to create demand for a product. You're trying to create an emotional response in me, you're trying to use sex, vanity, greed, and jealousy to make me buy your shit? Unacceptable. And when you get some fucking corporate behemoth like an insurance company put out a little heartwarming mini-story and try to link their brand with that emotional response, that blatant kind of manipulation makes me want to start supporting capital punishment.
The funny thing about advertising is that the numbers are so soft. How do you judge the effectiveness of a marketing campaign? How can Coke tell if the billboard down the street is doing anything to keep their brand going? I really wonder that when I see billboards advertising stuff like a CNN show or a local comic with a limited engagement. How can they possibly measure the effectiveness of that ad? At least on the web there's a chance of measuring the clickthroughs though that does nothing to show the people who remembered the url and typed it in directly later. There's really no hard, scientific way to measure this shit. If a product does well, do you credit the quality of the product or the advertising? There's too many variables.
I suppose dog and pony shows can convince idiot IT directors to make expensive decisions. "Let's go with this vendor. They put out a nicer lunch spread than the other one." But is that always effective? I can't think of a Microsoft ad that informed me of anything useful. All the vague, emotional appeals they make could apply just as easily to the current product or the one that came before. There isn't a single Microsoft product I look forward to using, I simply use them because they're what everyone else is using and there's not much choice. It'd be like the fucking water company advertising to get people to drink more water -- haven't got much of a choice there, bub. Exchange 2007? No compelling need to upgrade. We'll do it when we have to, probably when we're ready to upgrade the mail server. There's no compelling need. Server 2008? No need. Windows 7? When we upgrade or desktops. Maybe when XP EOL's but everything works well enough for now. Office 2007? Yay, you get a million rows in Excel but pay for it with ribbons.
I guess that explains Microsoft's advertising problem. If you need their products, you already have them. The only reason to upgrade from XP will be when it's EOL'd with no more security patches and all your new desktops are coming with W7 licenses. 64-bit support and tons of ram? The average worker still doesn't need it. Those who do can run XP 64. When there's no good bullet points to sell on, all you've got left are vague emotional appeals.
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The iPhone ads that show a specific feature are textbook examples of great ads.
Not everyone was in the smartphone market. They didn't think they needed one. Apple runs an ad and shows you what the iPhone can do for you in simple terms. It doesn't get any more basic or effective than that.
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Except the airport weather one was retarded.
There's one fucking brilliant Microsoft ad... (Score:2, Interesting)
There's at least one awesome microsoft ad:
Life is short [youtube.com]
Brilliant enough to excuse all the others, really.
MS's in-house/expo shorts consistently excellent (Score:4, Interesting)
For years I have been surprised by MS's inability to create a decent ad. Having been to a handful of MS conferences over the years, I have also noted that the warm-up videos are also first rate, so obviously there are people at MS who "get it" and can oversee the commission of decent advertising.
I was recently puzzled by Microsoft's "Laptop Hunter" ads, and really, MS's failure to push what was a really effective ad. They've been smarting for years for from the Mac-PC ads, and they've finally got something that hits the competition similarly below the belt (advertising press reported Apple execs were pissed). MS essentially completes the ad run and then shelves the campaign.
For whatever reason, MS's advertising mentality is just not aggressive and cutthroat.
Re:MS's in-house/expo shorts consistently excellen (Score:2)
The laptop hunter ads were the first Microsoft ads that seemed to be on par with Apple's in terms of attack strength, but I don't think they resonated. It made me feel like I was forced to buy Microsoft products because they were a monopoly. It was really a reminder of the lock they have on the market for me.
Apple's ads try to make it "fun" to own a Mac. In my opinion, Microsoft needs to focus on what you can do with Windows. Apple does not do that beyond their iStuff. Push Office. Bring back Windows
Re:MS's in-house/expo shorts consistently excellen (Score:3, Insightful)
If Apple's execs were pissed, they were pissed all the way to the bank because Apple had unit sales growth during the laptop hunters run.
Meanwhile, the pc makers showed declines except in the netbook sector. Microsoft's gross revenues take a hit when a netbook is bought as opposed to a laptop. (Not that every netbook sold is a laptop not sold, but Microsoft, in order to fight off the Linux threat in the netbook market, discounted OEM Windows heavily and I wouldn't be surprised if, to break even, Microsoft n
That's why the Hunter commercials did not help (Score:2)
Meanwhile, the pc makers showed declines except in the netbook sector. Microsoft's gross revenues take a hit when a netbook is bought as opposed to a laptop.
And this is exactly why the Hunter commericals did not help anything and were shelved. Because you had two reactions from customers:
1) I'll shop around like they did on the ads. Look! Cheap netbook!
2) I'll shop around like they did on the ads. This Apple laptop is more expensive, but it sure feels nicer to use...
When you're essentially the default
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I was recently puzzled by Microsoft's "Laptop Hunter" ads, and really, MS's failure to push what was a really effective ad.
What? An ad that effectively said, "Our OS is so bad, we'll pay you to buy hardware that has it on it?" Wow, if that is what passes for an effective ad in the minds of MS boosters, I'd hate to see an ineffective one.
Start Me Up (Score:2)
The new ads with kids saying "I'm a PC" are their best ads in a long time, but those are clearly derivative.
Was the last good Microsoft ad campaign the "Start Me Up" ads when Windows 95 launched?
I'm not much of an Apple fan, but damn they know how to advertise.
I liked the Gates Seinfeld ads (Score:2)
My favorite Microsoft ad (Score:2)
Where's the Zune Penis Ad? (Score:2)
I mean, doesn't a walking penis receiving an eyeball from a farting eyeball creature just make you want to rush out and buy a Zune? [vimeo.com]
What? It doesn't?
Philistine.
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Why did you post this link? That ad was troubling on so many levels.
customers, customers, customers .... (Score:2)
Re:Gates and Seinfeld? (Score:4, Interesting)
Point being, they need to think beyond the boundaries of Redmond. Just because a manager approves one of their adverts doesn't mean the public will...
Songsmith?!? (Score:3, Informative)
Delusional (Score:2)
Regarding the current ads of people thinking this feature and that feature was their idea...
What company really wants to have clearly delusional people as their spokesmen?
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Re:Delusional (Score:4, Funny)
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14th time is the charm?
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Every time I see one of those ads I get the urge to cross out the word "idea" and write in "fault".
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You're not the only guy. I thought those ads had an offbeat sort of charm. Better still, they had the potential to stake out brand territory for Microsoft where Apple would have a tough time attacking them - where Apple would have to tread carefully in order to avoid looking "uncool" or like they don't get the humour.
I think Microsoft gave up on that series far, far too early. Branding takes time. Changing course for a huge brand behemoth like Microsoft takes even more time.
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The ads weren't really branding anything but Bill Gates and Jerry Seinfeld.
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No, not really. Most people wouldn't have a clue who he is. You don't interact with enough plebes if you think his face is iconic.
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No, not really. Most people wouldn't have a clue who he is. You don't interact with enough plebes if you think his face is iconic.
Ask 10 random people to name a few of the richest people on the planet.
Bill Gates' name will be mentioned, and most people certainly know what he looks like. They also know - even if only in broad terms - that he made his money off of software. Lots of people still think he's in charge of Microsoft, and it's only the geekier folks that know he stepped down a while back.
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I must be the only guy in the world that actually thought those were kinda funny.
If you pay millions of dollars to hire the guy behind what is often hailed as the best situation comedy in the history of TV, then people will expect that the result to be more than just "kinda funny".
If they had done these ads with some unknown comic, then the expectations bar would have been much lower, and the ads might have worked for what they were.
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.. or people would had understood them even less. Now there at least was a known character and he fit in to the style.
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... and he fit in to the style.
What style is that? Stupid?
Thank you, thank you... I'll be here to heckle all night. Try the veal!
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When you look at Seinfeld... and then you compare the post-Seinfeld work of the actors against, say, Curb Your Enthusiasm, it seems clear where the humor came from. Collaboration IS extremely important (good actors are creative people too and do a lot more than just recite a pre-written script for the camera), but I think people gave more credit than was due to Jerry Seinfeld for the show's success, and not enough to Larry David.
Jerry's stand-up is pretty funny though.
Re:Gates and Seinfeld? (Score:4, Interesting)
I remember watching a roast of Jerry Stiller (Ben Stillers dad, the obnoxious loud father of George Costanza on Seinfeld) and Jason Alexander was MC'ing the deal. When asked where Michael Richards and Julia Louis-Dreyfus were and why they weren't there for the roast, Jason's only reply was (and I paraphrase):
They're resting. Their shoulders are sore after holding Jerry Seinfeld up for so many years.
While I really enjoyed Seinfeld as a show, I can't say that I found Jerry Seinfeld himself all that funny. It really was the writing/ideas (no doubt mostly from Larry David) and his supporting cast that gave the show most of its humour.
~jaraxle
Re:Hurray! Propaganda! (Score:4, Insightful)
Also, advertising by its nature is going to be about what makes your product either unique or better than competing products. You can't tell people what makes your product unique or better unless you contrast it with other products. Even if you don't mention the other product, the contrast is implicit. For instance, "Macs hardly ever crash and require virtually no configuration by the user" doesn't have any meaning without context, and the assumed context is that the listener has used Windows and had a blue screen or two and got lost in configuration screens. I'm sure you'd complain about implicit comparison ads like that, just as you do about the explicit comparisons.
It's not about bashing the other guy. It's about communicating to your audience what it is that makes your product their best choice in a way that they will remember. The "I'm a Mac / and I'm a PC" ads are effective at that. The Gates/Seinfeld ads are good for the latter but I don't think they communicated anything about the product. Microsoft could have learned from the dot-com era Superbowl ads to have avoided that mistake.
It's possible to find an ad that is effective without making any explicit or implicit comparisons to other products. The "Make 7-Up Yours" ads did that just fine, as do many food ads because the market is swamped with different products and you can't say yours is better than each of the others and state reasons for that conclusion, but you can remind people of your product enough to make their mouth water for a taste. But, for products where there is a limited number of competitors and you have objective reasons to say why yours is better than any of theirs, a comparison comes up in every effective ad.
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You mean Blipverts [wikipedia.org].
But those things kill people.
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There are two main purposes to advertising - to create awareness and to generate trial.
These ads we're talking about clearly did the former among us and among the folks who create these stores that make it to Slashdot. For a large proportion of this site's users, Microsoft's ads in particular utterly failed in that second, more important purpose: they didn't get many of us to actually deliberately go out and *try* their products.
The same holds true for the vast majority of commercials on TV and ads on the
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I may be wrong, but I don't even remember MS having TV ads before the incomprehensible Seinfeld ads. (print ads I've seen all over the place, but I've never paid much attention to them) Lately I've seen a lot of of MS TV ads, but they don't inspire me ("I asked them to make Windows easier" WTF is that s
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I LOVE it!