Transistor Radio Turns 50 175
theodp writes "Before the iPod, there was the Regency TR-1. Fifty years ago Monday, tiny Indianapolis-based I.D.E.A. partnered with TI and shook the world with the first pocket-sized AM radio, so impressing IBM chief Tom Watson that he provided a $49.95 (roughly $345 in current dollars!), four transistor TR-1 to each of his senior managers to kick-start the company's transition from valves."
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Which reminds me of the first headphone I ever used. It was a single ear-plug that plugged into one of those K-Mart black and white TVs. It was plastic, but the cord was a simple twisted deal. Not much in the way of wire protection.
God, this stuff takes me back.
Re:Picture and a bit more (Score:3, Interesting)
we wrapped copper wire around a TP roll, got a germanium diode, a copper strip, a 2,000ohm earphone and a board.
We wrapped the wire around the TP roll and shellaced it. We screwed the copper strip to the board with the other parts, wired it all up and I was listening to radio without batteries. I thought that was neater than hell (in 1966) and it really inspired me to experimenting.
When I was six, a kid gave me a transistor radio he dropped,
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we wrapped copper wire around a TP roll, got a germanium diode, a copper strip, a 2,000ohm earphone and a board.
Yep, that's pretty much like the radio I built. Unfortunately, we were so far away from the broadcasting stations that I could only pick up the feignest of signals. The electric motor kit was much more interesting, especially after my dad explained how it could work as a generator if you applied mechanical power.
Odd as it may sou
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http://www.systemrecycler.com/pocketradio/ [systemrecycler.com]
Re:Picture and a bit more (Score:3, Interesting)
Still, it's a GOOD thing to know about electronics. And it's fun too.
Here's a great site to get kids started,
http://scitoys.com/
and
http://www.ho
And of course here's how a kid can build his own radio from stuff laying around the house..
http://scitoys.com/scitoys/scitoys/radio
Re:Picture and a bit more (Score:3, Funny)
A crystal radio.
Sadly, every crystal radio I ever built only picked up WBAL [wbal.com], which turned me into a talk radio junkie at 7.
I thought the hearing aid looked remarkably modern (Score:3, Interesting)
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"Why a hearing aid?" you may ask. Interesting history there - Bell Labs, probably in view of the work done by Alexander Graham Bell with the deaf and hard of hearing, allowed transistors to be used in hearing aids without royalty payments. If you have ever seen the large B batteries once used with vacuum tubes, you will understand why the transistor was such a breakthrough in creating a wearable hearing aid.
B+, plus what? Weight! (Score:2)
Re:Picture and a bit more (Score:2, Insightful)
Well, it would probably be similar to taking an original Han Solo action figure and modding it into a new, modern Jar Jar toy. An exercise in bad judgement.
You'd be better off to sell it on ebay for $1000, and invest that money in finding either a similar but empty case to fill, or just paint a new iPod silver and do some calligraphy on it. Then pocket the change.
Transistors (Score:5, Interesting)
Pentium IV Prescott: 125 million transistors [tech-report.com]
Power4: 170 million transistors [geek.com]
So how many transistors are in the TR-1?
4
For everything else, there's vacuum tubes. (Or diodes, depending on your radio set.)
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... the number of *silicon* devices inside... (Score:2)
Paul B.
Re:Transistors (Score:2)
Of course there were some advantages to vacuum tubes. I enjoyed my bedside "All American 5" tube set. The lovely glow served as a night light and I could use it as a hand warmer when it was cold. Also, it was great fun to turn the set off and listen to the sound disappear as the tubes cooled.
(You know you are getting old when you remember the days when you had to "warm up" electro
Re:Transistors (Score:3, Informative)
Power 'handling' wont be low but power 'efficiency' will be crappy since the transistor will always be biased in its ON state. Therefore it will dissipate power even when no signal is beeing pass through. Other than that its power dissipation for a given signal will be the same as for any other amp except
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Designs started with tubes Re:Transistors (Score:2)
An easy thing to do was combine several elements into a single tube. That meant a single power-hungry filament could support two triodes and/or pentodes, and possibly also a couple
slashdotted already (Score:5, Funny)
(roughly $345 in current dollars!) (Score:5, Interesting)
Of course there were no portable headphones.
Just saying.
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It was about the same size as a normal watch, however.
Some $%!$% broke the band a year or two later. Dono what happened to it after that...
Re:(roughly $345 in current dollars!) (Score:2, Funny)
Yup. And the transistor radio won't really be popular either until it supports Ogg Vorbis.
Fantastic! I just used my transistor radio. (Score:2, Interesting)
They are ubiquitous in our lives now, and it's hard to imagine a world without miniturized electronics.
How business has changed (Score:4, Interesting)
Nowadays, it's more like the patent was filed 5 years ago out of thin air, first public announcement was 24 months ago. Product is sold with some bugs and patches/fixes/recalls were made in the following 24 months.
And look at the patent (Score:2)
Re:How business has changed (Score:2)
Whether blacks are mentally inferior to whites is a seperate question from which "race" has (or at that time had) a greater birthrate. Of course being good at electronics doesn't necessarily have anything to do with whether or not he was right
50 years? (Score:3, Funny)
50 [virgin] years? (Score:5, Funny)
And are still virgins?
Re:50 [virgin] years? (Score:2)
Be careful about what you ask for...you'll get a much shorter list if you just asked for the ones who aren't virgins.
Re:50 years? (Score:2)
Not me... but (Score:2)
Too old to be a "boomer", too young to be "gen X"...
Re:50 years? (Score:2)
None of us. We're all over on Geezerdot.
Re:50 years? (Score:2)
Soldered a six-transister radio from a correspondence electronics course in the late 60s. Still have it.
I'm steenking close! (Score:2)
It's not really odd to me that most folks have no clue what a vacuum tube is. It's a bit odd that most folks have no clue what a transistor is. Society has changed as much as technology over the last 50 years, at least in the USA.
50 years ago, almost everyone knew what a tube was, whether they cared or not (and most cared to some degree).[0] Today most people know what a computer or iPod is, whether they care or not, but an
Inflation (Score:5, Insightful)
Wow. What struck me most about that article is how much inflation there's been in 50 years. Thats 700%! I don't know about you, but to me that's just insane.
Re:Inflation (Score:4, Informative)
Especially considering more than half of that inflation occurred between 1970 and 1983.
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345/49.95 = 6.9 (= 590% inflation)
power(6.9,1/50) = 1.04 (= 4% inflation).
4% inflation is not such a big deal.
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GNP (Gross national product) measures the amount of output produced by all people/firms/capital from a nation, regardless of where that input is located; a Korean car plant in Kentucky counts for Korea's GNP, not the USA's. So, in a sense, the GDP doesn't measure national wealth, but output produced within a particular country.
Re:Inflation (Score:2)
Inflation doesn't happen because joe farmer wants more for his corn, and therefor the blacksmith charges more. No, it happens because more money is printed and it trickles out. Why was there no depressions or inflation before the federal reserve system?
Our money is worthless, it's entire value is based on the th
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Inflation happens because people are always trying to get the upper hand, even Farmer Joe, AND because more money is being printed. When more money is printed for no reason, hyperinflation occurs (Think Russia in 1996 or the former Weimar Republic).
And yes, all money is just scraps of paper or chunks of minerals. I never said otherwise. Infla
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If you don't mind the download, www.suprnova.org, look for a file by the name of "good ones".
Other measures (Score:2)
CPI: $342
GDP Deflator: $286
Unskilled Wage: $494
GDP Per Capita: $810
GDP: $1440
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Be thankful that you didn't live in Hungary in 1946. They had 41,900,000,000,000,000% inflation [wikipedia.org] in the month of July alone.
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rj
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Wow, 40 years ago 6 and 8 transisters (Score:4, Interesting)
And I think the IC's I was working on 35 years ago were produced from one inch wafers and were one transister or diode per chip which were mounted in an IC to replace a vacuum tube or valve based circuit.
But that's progress. Now you can have a 3 Ghz pentium that will put out as much heat as that old vacuum tube based technology ever could.
I thought the TR-1 had 3 transistors (Score:2)
You go first (Score:2)
$345! (Score:5, Insightful)
-russ
Re:$345! (Score:3, Funny)
A lot!
Re:$345! (Score:2, Informative)
You have missed the point. The submitter wants to underscore the similarity with the IPod by showing that even their prices are similar once you adjust for inflation.
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But
-russ
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-russ
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I can attest to that.. (Score:2, Interesting)
It had antiskip on the cd player version of the shockwave, and it was so cool. This was when I was back in elementary school, and I wanted one so badly.
I thought to myself, wow that thing was huge, how did we ever use tapes! and I looked around and saw all the people with ipods or other mp3 players on the bus. Even mini-disc players are way to ou
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I drooled over them.
Now Walmart has them for less than $20.
And for all you non-Brits out there... (Score:5, Informative)
And I, for one, want to welcome the arrival of our new iPod Overlords!
-Ocelot Wreak.
Wow talk about Memories. (Score:5, Interesting)
If I remember right his had 9 transistors. At that time when you bought one it would tell you how many transistors it had. The more transistors the better the "quality" and the higher the price. 9 was pretty much top of the line for portables.
The Sony's where considered cheap and low quality. (and they fell apart so very easy.) If you wanted a good one there was only one way to go. RCA. Though the people from Phillips and GE had their contenders.
The RCA's had honestly better quality speakers etc so there was a difference in quality (over the cheap Japanese imports). His also took a single 9 volt battery and a small V/U meter to tell you signal strength. Even heard my first Beatles tune on it.
Fake transistors (Score:5, Interesting)
I remember the prestige accorded to the transistor count in those early radios; it was bragging rights for us kids on the playground to have the radio with the higher count. Trouble was, the manufacturers caught on to this early and soldered in fake parts to raise their total. I remember a picture in an electronics mag showing the bottom of the printed circuit board in one radio, showing all three leads of each of a couple of the transistors soldered together in as one big connected blob.
Re:Wow talk about Memories. (Score:2)
In SAT terms, Transistors : radio = jewels : watch
rj
My radio is better cause it has more transistors! (Score:5, Interesting)
I wish I had specific references of this, but it was a practice by some portable radio manufacturers to add extra transistors just so they could market as being a *12 transistor* radio. I've seen a couple of these where they only used two poles directly from the battery i.e. as diodes. I've seen one case where they just added extra ones before the speaker which did reduce over all sound quality. Sorta like they added an extra unnessicary smoke stack to the Titanic, cause more is better.
Re:My radio is better cause it has more transistor (Score:2)
Re:My radio is better cause it has more transistor (Score:2)
Oh yeah? Well, my Pentium IV has *100 million* transistors! How do ya like that, huh? huh?! - Sadly, this appears to be Intel's marketing strategy these days.
Good thing radio makers weren't competing on frequencies - "My radio goes up to 300 Mhz!" "Oh yeah? Mine goes to 350!". We'd have ended up in the terahertz range by now. At least the 4th stack on the Titanic served some purpose -
Grandpa's Walkman (Score:5, Interesting)
Going transistor improved battery life and permitted smaller size. Due to the smaller size and early speaker technology, the early transistor radios were known for their tin sound. They mostly sounded like a set of headphones on a desk. Earphones (mono in the ear) were common as was simply holding the radio up to the ear like a cell phone.
Being an early geek in those days meant taking apart some of the early transistor radios. (grade shool age) Deceptive marketing was common. Just like the standards for car audio watts (RMS, Peak, per channel, all channels together, un distorted, 10% distortion, max power at any distortion etc..).
Transistor count was the big seller.. The more the better. I remember taking apart a 9 transistor radio only to discover that only 3 of the transistors were used. 3 of them had all three leads stuck in the same hole. 3 of them were used as diodes with two leads in one hole and the other lead in another hole. It was a simple regenerative reciever, not a superhetrodyne with some semblance of fideliety.
In marketing, not much has changed in the years.
My old printer claims X number of pages ink yeild for it's color cartrige at 15% page coverage. The new printer claims it does more pages with it's high yeild cartrige. In the fine print it does 1.5X more pages but at 5% coverage. In my book, that's less yeild. The new cartrige is over twice the price. Carts refrenced are the HP 23 and the HP 78. I can get two of the former for about $45 or one of the latter for $52. Needless to say, my old printer is the primary color printer, not the new one. Thanks to the truth in advertising, they do specify how the page yeild was calculated, but they have gone a long way to imply comparing page count of these two cartridges is accurate, when it is deceptive. Do you want the 600 page count cartrige or the 900 page count one? Come on guys. point out the 600 count is with 15% coverage and the 900 count is with 5% coverage. (page counts rounded off for example. See HP's website for stated page yeild claims.
Cargo Cult Science (Score:2)
Neat photos in this guy's auction... (Score:4, Interesting)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item =2269893061 [ebay.com]
Who knows how long the photos will stay up, but if you do a completed-items search on "Regency TR-1" you'll find several other examples.
I wonder how much a MINT!! RARE!!11! NWE IN BOX L@@K!! iPod will fetch in 2054?
Re:Neat photos in this guy's auction... (Score:2)
The definitive review of transistor radios. (Score:4, Interesting)
He writes of his drawer-full of cheap Japanese knockoffs that worked for a few days, then began to each emit a strange and unique sound - his fond reminiscing about 'Old Squeem' still makes me laugh.
Tubes vs Transister (Score:3, Interesting)
An added benefit, it's very easy to build a simple tube amp or pre-amp.
Tubes were replaced with Transisters, but there is still a place in todays world for tubes.
I'm just building my first 300b monoblocks. I look forward to smashing my current future shop transister gear out of the way.
Transistor Timeline (Score:2, Informative)
'Transistorized! The History of the Invention of the Transisor' [pbs.org].
Amazing picture of a very early transistor... (Score:5, Informative)
Transistor inventors Shockley, Bardeen and Brattain were awarded a Nobel prize for their work in 1956. It's amazing how something so primitive went on to revolutionize the electronics industry.
Maybe older? (Score:2)
Re:Maybe older? (Score:2)
Do you mean the x20? the 20 watt PWM amplifier that could only supply 10 watts? Or the six transister radio that had only three transistors, but used them all twice?
I personally made thousands of both these things in the summer of 1966 (to the sound of the Isley Brothers "unchained melody" and any amount of Everly Brothers tracks. I also made a modified version of the radio that acted as a transmitter (for bugging).
Don't you mean 57 years?! (Score:2)
You Can't Buy One (Score:3, Informative)
You Also Can't Buy A Portable Satellite Radio (Score:2)
Soap box radio (Score:2)
Say what??? (Score:2)
I'm not sure what you're trying to say here; portable music was huge fairly quickly. It was even big before the transistor radio. My parents had a portable, RCA, tube, AM radio (width and height of a school lunchbox, maybe 2 inches (5 cm) deep) from when they were dating. That puts it at late 40s or earl
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Re:International Boiling Machines. (Score:5, Informative)
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Re:International Boiling Machines. (Score:2, Funny)
You've never seen an IBM 3081 [ibm.com]. Dual CPUs and water cooled and the one I used in '93 had an uptime of 13 years.
Re:The first transistor radio (Score:2)
I believe the article menations the first pocket-sized transistor radio - not the first transistor radio in general.
-Em
Re:"Valves" in Radios (Score:5, Informative)
Because in much of the USA in those days, drugstores were among the few stores permitted to do business on Sunday.
Seven-Elevens had tube testers as late as the mid-Seventies.
rj
Re:"Valves" in Radios (Score:2)
I remember those! Our neighborhood 7/11 still had a tube tester until the very early eighties when they replaced it with video game machines (Space Invaders and Pac Man, I think). God, do I feel old now...