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The PlayStation 3 Launches In the U.S. 578

Posted by Zonk
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Sony's next-gen console has officially launched in the states, complete with an NYC launch party, and a giant line in San Francisco. While many gamers went home happy, the night was not without incident. There was also some ugliness, with individuals being hired to stand in line, as was done in Japan earlier this week. Overall, though, the news is positive for the hundreds of gamers who waited through the night for their new console. "As midnight approached, the first person in line, New York native Angel Paredes, was escorted into the SonyStyle Store where he was handed the first North American PS3 by Hirai and Stringer. The console's box also included a personal autographed message from Hirai. Paredes, his voice hoarse from interviews and arms tired from repeatedly hoisting the console, was a good sport, standing still for the multitude of photographers and offering a few words for anyone who asked. The first three gamers in line were comped their PS3s. Once the media buzz died down, the rest of the attendees were ushered in to get what they had been waiting for all week. Though the consoles' next destinations were unknown — many are expected to be posted on eBay for a quick profit — the next destinations of the new PS3 owners was clear — go home and get some rest. " Any readers spend the night in lines, and want to share about it? Did you eBay the thing, or are you just taking a break from Resistance? Let us know how things went, and what the system is like.
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The PlayStation 3 Launches In the U.S.

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  • by Svippy (876087) on Friday November 17, 2006 @09:35AM (#16883456) Homepage

    Seriously, those who have the console now will probably be away for a good week, because who needs friends when you have a PS3?

  • eBay (Score:5, Informative)

    by perlionex (703104) * <joseph&ganfamily,com> on Friday November 17, 2006 @09:35AM (#16883466) Homepage
    It looks like the going rate [ebay.com] is anywhere from $3000-$5000...
    • Re:eBay (Score:5, Funny)

      by tourvil (103765) on Friday November 17, 2006 @09:47AM (#16883666)
      It gets better [ebay.com]
      • by Cerberus7 (66071)
        It's funny, the winning bidder has a score of 2, but the seller clearly states that he will only sell it to somebody with a score of at least 10, and a positive feedback percentage of 98%. Somehow, I think this auction is going to be voided and the seller is going to try again. That, or the winning bidder is a plant to force this auction to end in this manner.
        • by k_187 (61692)
          it doesn't matter, the guy selling it was bidding up the price. It got to 9 million before he outbid the last guy. Greedy sod.
        • Re:eBay (Score:5, Informative)

          by UbuntuDupe (970646) * on Friday November 17, 2006 @10:44AM (#16884648) Journal
          The buyer is probably just out to screw over scalpers by making bids they won't pay. When you exhaust all avenues stipulated on ebay for time until you have to pay vs. the relatively small penalties for canceling a bid, this could force the seller to delay selling it to a time when the hype dies down so they're paid less and have to wait longer.

          Neat strategy -- but your ebay account won't do too well.
      • by Thansal (999464)
        It was at $99,999,999 with 3 mins left

        then droped to 90 mill, and is dropping further
      • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

        by $RANDOMLUSER (804576)
        Closing price was $89,000,100.00 - that's 89 million, 100 dollars - seems perfectly reasonable...
    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      It looks like the going rate is anywhere from $3000-$5000...

      The first three gamers in line were comped their PS3s.

      now, THAT would have made for a decent profit for a week's worth of waiting in line... imagine if the first 3 people lived together and sold off 2 of them. goddamn. think of what they'd fetch for the autographed system.
    • Re: (Score:2, Redundant)

      by IdleTime (561841)
      * YAWN *

      Wake me up when PS3 Mark 3 comes out. It will have most of the bugs fixed and the price will be reasonable enough to buy it,
      • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

        by shmlco (594907)
        Speaking of yawns, did you catch the one line, "...the next destinations of the new PS3 owners was clear--go home and get some rest."

        Is that guy serious? These people stand in line for days after waiting for MONTHS for the PS3 to be released... and they finally get one... and this guy thinks that now they're going to go home and SLEEP???
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by DrXym (126579)
      It looks like the going rate is anywhere from $3000-$5000...

      Sure, there are a few idiots out there, but I expect that now the market is flooded with PS3s that the price is going to take a dump. PS3s might be in short supply but I expect that if you preordered one now (now that launch is over) that you'd probably have it before Christmas. For retail price.

    • Re:eBay (Score:5, Interesting)

      by maynard (3337) <`j.maynard.gelinas' `at' `gmail.com'> on Friday November 17, 2006 @10:44AM (#16884626) Journal
      At $3000, that's about five times the retail price and significantly more than my monthly mortgage payment. Supposing I did have $3000 in surplus cash, were I to use those funds to pay down principal on my mortgage instead of buying that PS3 I would shave a bit more than a years worth of mortgage payments from the end of the loan. Thus, to pay five times retail for a toy would incur a long term loss in excess of $24,000.

      Think about that.
      • by blueZ3 (744446) on Friday November 17, 2006 @11:38AM (#16885616) Homepage
        where thinking about the longer-term consequences of your actions isn't just overlooked, it's actively ignored. If you mention "opportunity cost" to the average credit card user out there, you're going to get a look of ignorance that's almost bovine in its nescience.

        Funny thing is, I used to be in pretty much that same frame of mind until I got married. I just never thought more than a couple of months ahead... probably mostly because I got in the habit of living paycheck-to-paycheck when I was in the Army (talk about low pay!) and while I was a college student, I was just living month-to-month on my GI Bill money. My wife (who is brilliant and a 4.0 math major) started pointing out all the things that we were doing that involved long-term tradeoffs and I was totally amazed at the amount of money we were spending on "unnecessaries." Working together, we were able to get ahead of the curve and eventually, we bought both our cars for cash and our house with a nice down payment. We haven't paid interest on a credit card in about five years, and the last time I was out of work, we had enough cash to tide us over. We still spend money on "fun" stuff, but we're always careful to think about the tradeoffs so that we're making informed decisions.

        The moral of my story: if you're not a financial genius, marry someone who is :-)
        • by MS-06FZ (832329) on Friday November 17, 2006 @11:57AM (#16885952) Homepage Journal
          The moral of my story: if you're not a financial genius, marry someone who is :-)


          Certainly sounds better than my plan, of marrying a lusciously sexy girl with big tits...
        • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

          by lazyl (619939)
          we bought both our cars for cash

          Making large purchases for cash is not correct. You can invest that cash for at least 8% while most dealerships offer financing at less than 5%. Plus, over the term of the loan you'll be paying down the principal which lowers the overall interest. You lost a fair chunk of change paying with cash instead of investing.

          Thinking long term doesn't mean avoiding debt. Often taking out a loan is the best way to maximize long term income. I don't mean to embarras you; just tryi
    • are going for upwards of $700: See this example [ebay.com]

      Though most have high bidders with 0 feedback, and are probably being shilled to look like a real PS3 by price...

      tm

  • Wow (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Tadrith (557354) on Friday November 17, 2006 @09:37AM (#16883480) Homepage
    I'm watching the news right now.

    This is possibly the dumbest, saddest thing I've ever seen.
    • Re:Wow (Score:5, Funny)

      by lucabrasi999 (585141) on Friday November 17, 2006 @09:48AM (#16883676) Journal
      This is possibly the dumbest, saddest thing I've ever seen.

      You're new here, aren't you?

    • Chaos (Score:3, Interesting)

      I'm actually reasonably disturbed by the Chaos that has been created by greed ...

      In practically every interview I have seen the reporter is talking to someone who intends to sell the PS3 for massive profit; in one case a man was talking about how he was going to make $2000 in one days work. I could be wrong but it seems like the PS3 launch has brought out everyone who is desperate to make a little money regardless of the moral cost.
      • Moral cost? (Score:5, Insightful)

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 17, 2006 @10:27AM (#16884310)
        What moral cost? It's called supply and demand. It's not like this is a necessary purchase for survival.
        • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

          by vertinox (846076)
          What moral cost? It's called supply and demand. It's not like this is a necessary purchase for survival.

          Last I checked, supply and demand didn't entail fist fights, riots, and robbery.

          For all intents and purposes, these people are acting like getting the PS3 is a matter of life and death...

          Which it is not.
      • What moral cost? (Score:4, Insightful)

        by Kunta Kinte (323399) on Friday November 17, 2006 @10:30AM (#16884380) Journal

        I'm actually reasonably disturbed by the Chaos that has been created by greed ...

        How is reselling a PS3 greed? To label this greed you need to know what financial situation these people are in.

        Are they standing in line to afford a luxury item or is this a rare opportunity to make 2 months rent in a day?

        Ticket/Event/Product Scalping [wikipedia.org] ( reselling ) is not always illegal and many legitimate business do it. Tickmaster at least at one point aunctioned tickets to popular events.

        Finally, who is being hurt by the PS3 resellers? The gamers who have to wait an extra week to get their hands on a PS3?

        • by HappySqurriel (1010623) on Friday November 17, 2006 @10:42AM (#16884592)
          I'm actually reasonably disturbed by the Chaos that has been created by greed ...

          How is reselling a PS3 greed? To label this greed you need to know what financial situation these people are in.

          Are they standing in line to afford a luxury item or is this a rare opportunity to make 2 months rent in a day?

          Ticket/Event/Product Scalping ( reselling ) is not always illegal and many legitimate business do it. Tickmaster at least at one point aunctioned tickets to popular events.

          Finally, who is being hurt by the PS3 resellers? The gamers who have to wait an extra week to get their hands on a PS3?


          I (personally) see nothing wrong with the act of scalping a product in order to make a decent profit; I do however see a problem with trampling people to get a product in order to sell it online for a decent profit. Regardless of whether your use of your windfall is a noble cause or not, when you callously disregard the wellbeing of your fellow person in order to make the money it becomes an immoral act.
      • Re:Chaos (Score:5, Insightful)

        by vertinox (846076) on Friday November 17, 2006 @10:39AM (#16884512)
        In practically every interview I have seen the reporter is talking to someone who intends to sell the PS3 for massive profit; in one case a man was talking about how he was going to make $2000 in one days work.

        I was discussing this last night with a former manager of a Gamestop. We came to the conclusion that only people that were buying PS3s now were going to sell it on Ebay.

        But the amount of people willing to pay more than $1,000 is very small. So a handful of people will make money, but since Ebay is being flooded with PS3s there is a high chance that many of these Ebayers are going to be sorely disappointed.

        Secondly... Most of those $9,000 bids are just fake bids of people who have no intention of actually buying it.
    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      by DrXym (126579)
      I'm watching the news right now. This is possibly the dumbest, saddest thing I've ever seen.

      It is dumb and sad but even sadder is that every console needs guinea pigs to queue up for the new console in order to generate the hype needed to claim a successful launch.

      Personally I'd love a PS3 but I don't see what the attraction is of owning one when there are only a dozen or so games, you're queueing all night to get one and there is a real possibility that it might flawed / broken and you have no way to

  • I'm sick and tired of getting everything six months to one year after the USA and Japan. And Sony has been known to delay its product launches for months in markets like India. This encourages a perverted black market, where you get the PS3 within for obscene amounts of money. What's the problem with a simultaneous worldwide launch policy? You prevent black marketeering that way.
    • Manufacturing issues, and in case of sony also a cost issue, the costs are so high that they cannot even push a high number of those machines into the markets in one region. Besides that everything has to be manufactured in certain areas due to cost reasons as well (and environmental reasons, it is cheaper to simply dump the toxic waste into the next lake instead of adding a chemical fab to the original fab to remove the waste from the cycle before it hits nature) Those places although quite big are limited
    • by chrismcdirty (677039) on Friday November 17, 2006 @09:51AM (#16883712) Homepage
      If Sony really cared about black marketeering, they would have launched with ample supplies. I believe a blogger for Kotaku said he talked to 100 people in lines, and only 1 said he was going to keep it to play. They love the black market sales because that increases hype for the system. People see that it's going for $3,000 on ebay, and they think that it must be worth it.
      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        by DrXym (126579)
        People see that it's going for $3,000 on ebay, and they think that it must be worth it.

        Well if people are bidding $3000 on it then clearly it is worth it to them. Suckers they may be but you can't blame Sony if people are stupid enough to pay that much.

        Having said that, it wouldn't surprise me if the alleged shortages of PS3s are somewhat manipulated to amp up the hysteria for launch. All those recent news stories about boxes being cut from 400,000 to 250,000. It wouldn't surprise me if Sony held back s

  • well, I figured he must be big geek, and therefore have a Slashdot log in.

    On the other hand, he's probably too busy playing with his new toy.
  • by volpone (551472) on Friday November 17, 2006 @09:37AM (#16883498)
    And that's not an exaggeration. When they came out to announce that they only had 30 PS3s, people went nuts. Trashing stuff, punching random people, it was crazy. They had to call a bunch of cops to get things under control.

    It Is Just A Fucking Game, Damn It! I wish everyone would grow the fuck up.

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by freeweed (309734)
      You never had this sort of nonsense when it was just us nerds playing video games.

      Damn you Sony for introducing gaming to the beer-drinking, fist-throwing, truck-driving masses!
  • PS3 Related Crime (Score:5, Informative)

    by eldavojohn (898314) * <eldavojohn@nOsPam.gmail.com> on Friday November 17, 2006 @09:38AM (#16883506) Journal
    Yep, it sure is great that the PS3 is out. The account on Kotaku listed in the summary is nothing, however. No one lost a PS3 (which are selling on eBay for several thousand [ebay.com] even after launch). For those of you interested in criminal activity, Engadget has an amusing collection of articles [engadget.com]:
    • Drive bys with BB guns [engadget.com] in Kentucky.
    • A riot for spots in line [engadget.com] in Burbank.
    • Read [sega.com] - 10 to 12 people robbed in PS3 line (dubious, but possible). [Via Digg [digg.com]]
    • Read [cbs2.com] - Sheriffs shut down another California store for rowdy behavior.
    • Read [playboy.com] - Police break up NY SonyStyle store fight.
    • Read [todaystmj4.com] - Brawl breaks out at another Wally when manager plays musical PlayStation chairs. Seriously, what an idiot. [Thanks Kyle D. [kyledrake.com]]
    • Read [cheapassgamer.com] - Shots were apparently fired at a Texas Wally. Pics here [photobucket.com] and here [photobucket.com] of the 5-0. [Thanks, Jason]
    • Read [ktvz.com] - Two armed, masked robbers overtook a customer in Springfield. [Thanks, Jason]
    • Watch [youtube.com] - North Fresno / Merced had stampede-riot insanity. [Thanks, Jonathan]
    And they even have a link to our very own lovable Senator Jonathon Edwards [prnewswire.com] contacting Wal-Mart for one PS3.

    It's clear that some people are just so into the giving spirit that they will do anything for the perfect gift.
    • by 0rbit4l (669001)
      And they even have a link to our very own lovable Senator Jonathon Edwards [prnewswire.com] contacting Wal-Mart for one PS3.
      No, you have a link to a carefully spun press-release by a multinational corporation that's tired of being criticised for its anti-worker policies. It's not nearly as fun to put out a (factual) press release about a staffer working independently to try to do something nice for his boss.
  • by Vengeance (46019) on Friday November 17, 2006 @09:39AM (#16883518)
    But with the prices I'm hearing on Ebay, I'm beginning to wish I had. A night on a long line isn't too bad if you're pulling in four to eight grand profit.

  • The WalMart in my city received all of 6 PS3s. I didn't go to the launch (can't afford it, want a Wii not a PS3, etc) but I have friends who work there. The 6 people waited all the way from noon until 8am. The same WalMart claims to have 50 Wiis.
    • by mgblst (80109)
      For the prices they are selling for on ebay, you can't afford not to get a PS3. I am beginning to think that these people who are waiting in lines are the true smart guys. $1300 profit at least, for a days work. Not bad. I wonder if anyone who actually waited in line will be playing the thing.
  • Ugliness (Score:5, Insightful)

    by kevin_conaway (585204) on Friday November 17, 2006 @09:41AM (#16883566) Homepage
    There was also some ugliness, with individuals being hired to stand in line, as was done in Japan earlier this week

    Why is that ugly? Seems like capitalism at its finest. If someone is willing to pay for a service and someone is willing to perform that service, whats ugly about that?

    Lazy maybe, but hardly ugly

    I don't really follow games, what are the most anticipated titles besides the generic football games?

    • "Why is that ugly? Seems like capitalism at its finest." Since when are "capitalism at its finest" and "ugly" mutually exclusive?
      • "Why is that ugly? Seems like capitalism at its finest." Since when are "capitalism at its finest" and "ugly" mutually exclusive?

        Fair enough. I still stand by my claim for this instance

    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      by FooAtWFU (699187)
      Reminds me of the late Milton Friedman.
      "A major source of objection to a free economy is precisely that it ... gives people what they want instead of what a particular group thinks they ought to want. Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself."
      It's pathetic, but it's freedom.
    • Re:Ugliness (Score:5, Insightful)

      by squiggleslash (241428) on Friday November 17, 2006 @10:34AM (#16884448) Homepage Journal
      Why is that ugly? Seems like capitalism at its finest.

      You do know your rebuttle has absolutely nothing to do with the comment you're responding to. Capitalism is not considered, by the majority of people I know, to be a superb thing of beauty that is beyond ugliness. Quite the reverse indeed.

      Greed and excessive, gratuitous, shows of wealth are rarely beautiful. Show me a hundred thousand people with jobs because someone was able to invest in a new technology, and I'll agree that's capitalism at its finest. Show me people paying to get an advantage in a line for an already over-priced luxury item, and you'll be showing me capitalism at its most facile.

    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      by SoapDish (971052)
      While capitalism can be ugly, I don't think this practice is as bad as the reselling that's going on.

      The people who are hiring are purchasing a luxury service, it's like buying a preorder. The people that stand in line make a little money for standing somewhere. The cost to get the system is only increased for the person buying the system.

      In reselling the system, the same thing is essentially happening, except someone on his own commission profits by taking the opportunity to purchase the system away from s
    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      by RoLi (141856)
      Seems like capitalism at its finest.

      Actually stores with scarce products and looong lines in front of them is communism at it's finest.

      Well, only that it was bread instaed of Playstations people where linnig up to....

  • by Lumpy (12016) on Friday November 17, 2006 @09:42AM (#16883582) Homepage
    So does this mean I need to bring a baseball bat with me to buy my Wii tommorow at Target?
  • by MK_CSGuy (953563)
    Yes, it does run Linux. From Engadget [engadget.com]:
    Yes, according to Sony you can install any PowerPC-capable Linux build. Yellow Dog Linux [engadget.com], however, is the most prominently supported distro announced to date.
  • by shirizaki (994008) on Friday November 17, 2006 @09:43AM (#16883606)
    3 S's, and the main reason why i didn't stand out in the farking cold. Kudos to those people who stand out in the cold like that. Whether you're reselling it for profit or playing in your pajamas, those people either have no lives or are dedicated to playing the newest first.

    Otherwise, i still think the PS3 is a great buy if you're into the whole high def DVD thing: by the time you buy a 360 and the HD-DVD add on you're better off buying a PS3 if you want high def.

    Personally, I'm waiting for 2 reasons:

    1) First batch hardware from Sony is almost always shoddy.

    2) Metal Gear Solid.

    When the system actually has over 1 million units produced and the bugs are worked out, then the real battle starts. Not having as many exclusives (Assassins Creed, Grand Theft Auto) might bring the PS3 to a real head on fight with X360.

    Of course I couldn't live without the PS3 and call myself a gamer, so I will own one exentually. It's just a matter of getting quality releases.

    I've enjoyed this LOLer coaster of a ride: Hirai's and Kutaragi's comments, shortages, BD v. Hd disc battles, lack of rumble. *sniff* I'm so sad to see it go.

    Alwell, it's on to the PS4, Xbox 720, and the Nintendo Ballz!
    • by jotok (728554)
      Of course I couldn't live without the PS3 and call myself a gamer, so I will own one exentually. It's just a matter of getting quality releases.

      It's one thing to enjoy games, but...no offense, this "Of course I just had to get one" line sounds childish.
  • Now, I'm a lifer. I'll own a console for a single game or two if necessary (e.g. I'm buying a Wii for Zelda and Smash Bros. I bought a Gamecube for much the same reason).

    I even camped out with my friend to buy a PS2 so we could play Tekken. Another great game.

    As far as I can tell the PS3's launch titles are pretty bad. There's a Madden with pretty graphics along with a handful of other anticlimactic sports titles... There's Call of Duty 3 (....)...

    Gran Turismo HD will be out before New Year's, and Meta
  • SixAxis (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Constantine XVI (880691) <trash@eighty+slashdot.gmail@com> on Friday November 17, 2006 @09:47AM (#16883664)
    My biggest problem with the PS3 isin't the $600 price tag. It isin't the forced Blu-ray player. It's the SixAxis. From what I've read, the SixAxis sounds like what happened when Sony looked at the DualShock and figured out you couldn't put any more buttons on it. It just acts like another analog stick (Resistance, Project8, Warhawk), or more buttons (Madden, Resistance). All it seems to do is just make games MORE complex. And no, I'm not a total Nintendo fanboy (playing outrun2 on xbox 1 right now, addicted)
    • Come on (Score:3, Insightful)

      by SuperKendall (25149)
      How is tilting a controller to fly "more complex"

      I do that already anyway! Now I just won't have to use the thumb stick as well.
  • by darkchubs (814225) on Friday November 17, 2006 @09:49AM (#16883690)
    Canada ... usually .... well at least when the 360 was like that.. Ottawa had a surplus. IM going up there this afternoon for the weekend. if they have em my e-bay id is.. :)
  • by realinvalidname (529939) on Friday November 17, 2006 @09:50AM (#16883702) Homepage

    Associated Press (CNN [cnn.com], Yahoo [yahoo.com]), is reporting that masked, armed thugs robbed people waiting in line at a Putnam, Connecticut Wal-Mart for PS3, and shot one person who wouldn't hand over their money.

    Penny Arcade has pretty much nailed [penny-arcade.com] the idiocy of this launch, as usual.

    • shot one person who wouldn't hand over their money.

      You can have my PS3 when you pry it from my cold, dead hands.
    • by Guppy06 (410832) on Friday November 17, 2006 @10:58AM (#16884896)
      "and shot one person who wouldn't hand over their money."

      And all the people behind the shooting victim worked hard to contain their glee at being able to move up a spot, no doubt.

      Seriously, the only people who own a PS3 right now are those who literally have more money than brains. I don't know if this is a sign of the susceptability of young people to marketing/groupthink or what, but there is no rational reason to put up with this nonsense for something that will likely continue to be manufactured and sold for years ("one night only," maybe, but not the launch of a flagship product). If nothing else, the high price of the console is is made all the more unaffordable due to the missed hours of work spent standing in line.

      Here's a litmus test: is standing in line for a PS3 something you would be proud to tell your children about a decade from now?
  • by mihalis (28146) on Friday November 17, 2006 @09:55AM (#16883804) Homepage

    My wife works in the Sony building, so I strolled past it last night.

    One one side of the Sony building were the dedicated or avaricious would-be-purchasers waiting to buy at midnight, but on the other side of the building there were externally visible screens showing PS3 games being played by people in one of the Sony stores. A preview reel looked awesome, but was simply a video of lots of game clips. The only games I saw being played were : some kind of off-road racing game and Madden 2007. Neither would blow my mind if I saw them on my PS2. There was little to no sign of mindboggling performance, in fact the off-road racing game seemed a bit slow.

    I'm a big fan of PS2, having completed several games, but I'm going to wait for my PS3 until a) I can buy one for normal retail price without hassle and b) I see the mind-blowing graphics we're all expecting

    No, I can't get one any earlier because I know an employee. In fact they haven't heard whether there will be any available for staff at all. There might be a raffle for 3, something like that.

  • by Sodade (650466) on Friday November 17, 2006 @09:56AM (#16883812)
    It seems to me that geeks would rather play on a PC, where you can hack the game if you don't like it. What is the allure of consoles? I don't get it. I bought an Xbox, but I never play games on the thing - I'd rather be on a PC.
    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      Can't speak for anyone else, but I find absolutely zero innovation in PC games. It's the same genres (FPS, RTS, MMORPG), over and over again, with different licenses or sequel numbers. You'd think with no barriers to entry, no Sony tax, etc., that you'd see more innovation in PC games, but it just doesn't exist: the Katamari Damacys and Guitar Heros of the world show up first, and only, on consoles.

    • by drinkypoo (153816) <martin.espinoza@gmail.com> on Friday November 17, 2006 @11:24AM (#16885366) Homepage Journal

      I got tired of spending the big bucks to maintain a killer PC. Soon I will build a fairly pissed off PC but I'm not spending my money on graphics hardware but on memory and storage because I want to be doing 3d modeling/rendering and video editing. It's nice to have a kick-ass 3D card for your 3d work, but frankly it is not a necessity and a $100 card today beats the living shit out of the sexiest stuff from back in the day - which has always been true but the point is that today even a pile of crap computer is pretty badass.

      But the point is that if I buy a game console, it's cheap, it's replaceable, it's portable, it has good controllers, and there's a huge library of games that I know will work. No fucking with my video drivers. No updating DirectMedia so that I can have out-of-sync streaming video behind my characters in Final Fantasy VII. (Which I do have for both PS1 and PC.) And so on.

      I mean, Mechwarrior III can't seem to properly draw its interface on the last system I had, running Windows XP... old games have "issues" working. Update DirectX to play a new game, and the old games don't work.

      To hell with it. I'll play console games. It does mean I won't be playing first person shooters (I don't believe in playing them without KB+Mouse) but I can live without that. If nothing else it'll probably stop me from burning out my adrenal gland prematurely.

    • Few reasons (Score:3, Insightful)

      by Sycraft-fu (314770)
      1) PC gaming is expensive. As expensive as $600 sounds for a console, consider that once you've spent it, that's it for hardware. You never need to buy any upgrades save for things like more controllers and such. However with a computer, it's a continuous thing. Graphics cards move at a frantic pace. I bought a $300 graphics card about a year ago, and I'm looking at doing the same thing again now that the DirectX 10 cards are rolling out.

      2) It's more effort. A console game just works. It has to, there's onl
  • Seriously. (Score:4, Insightful)

    by MeanderingMind (884641) on Friday November 17, 2006 @09:56AM (#16883816) Homepage Journal
    The PS3 is neat. The Wii is neat. These people are insane.

    1) It's a video game console, not a cure for cancer. You don't need to get worked up over it.

    2) This isn't the only chance you'll have to get one. If it is, you really don't want one anyway.

    3) If you seriously didn't think you could be in the "I waited days in line for this and got nothing" group you need several reality checks.

    Frankly, I'm scared that I'm going to walk to my car with my brand new Wii and some nut with a gun is going to try and take it from me. These morons seem desperate enough that they'll actually shoot me for it.
    • by danpsmith (922127) on Friday November 17, 2006 @10:59AM (#16884926)
      3) If you seriously didn't think you could be in the "I waited days in line for this and got nothing" group you need several reality checks.

      Don't worry, you are preaching to the choir here, most people here are used to waiting for years and still getting none.

  • by thesolo (131008) <slap@fighttheriaa.org> on Friday November 17, 2006 @09:56AM (#16883822) Homepage
    From the Ledger-Enquirer [ledger-enquirer.com] article about the Dentist trying to buy 15 PSPs:

    "I only want one, but I know there's other people that are going to want them, too," said Williams, who has a 7-year-old son..."You're using your money and authority to pay people for what you want, and that's wrong."

    Wait, using money to pay people is wrong now?! Thank you Cindy Williams of Columbus, Ohio for setting us all straight! I know I'll never make that mistake again. By the way, Cindy, can you further explain what authority a dentist has? I mean, unless he commandeered the store, I'm not really sure what authority he abused.

    People with a lot of money can almost always get what they want. It might be unfair, but that's capitalism; deal with it.
  • Now something about this really puts a smile on my face, and I could care less about gaming.
  • by Chanc_Gorkon (94133) <gorkon&gmail,com> on Friday November 17, 2006 @10:05AM (#16883950)
    I understand why the things are limited, but I don't have to like it. What I want to know is, why release these damn things in the busiest season? The only reason I come up with is everyone wants their little Johnny to have that PS3 xmas or to sell them on eBay plus the fact that alot of people in this country lose their heads all in the name of the almighty money spending holiday called Christmas.

    I want a Wii on Sunday, but I'll wait until March. By then, the hype is wore off and a few more games are out.

  • If the games actually move on the auction sites at $2500, that might be a pretty good return.
  • If thats not sitting ducks for crooks, I dont know what is. Maybe the rich suburban teens have "daddy's credit card", but a lot of them dont have high credit lines and carry cash.
  • by inca34 (954872) on Friday November 17, 2006 @10:24AM (#16884274) Journal
    I was first in line at a local Target. It started around 330pm Wednesday and filled up by 6pm, and since I got to run the line the way I wanted I still got to go to work and others got to take miderms, go to class, etc. Even so, it was stressful to deal with the hordes of people so desperate that, if provoked, would forcefully take someone's place. The potential for profit drove most of the idiocy. Also, everyone in the line was there to make a profit except for possibly myself--I haven't decided yet.

    The worst part of it was dealing with the corporate nature of Target. The employees were fine and enthusiastic, but the corporate policies were inane. For instance, no tents while they're open (8am to 10pm) with the lows being ~34F and soaking wet. Along with that, no official rules for the line from Target (read this as ass covering) so no waiting inside and no official list guaranteed even after the known slots had been filled--meaning you have to aggressively yet legally assert your place in line with an onslaught of douchebags trying to take your spot when you get up to take a piss.

    Would I do it again? Probably not. Am I glad to have a PS3, HELL YES! After work today is going to be insane!
    • by Guppy06 (410832) on Friday November 17, 2006 @11:04AM (#16885026)
      "The employees were fine and enthusiastic, but the corporate policies were inane. For instance, no tents while they're open"

      "Inane?" They're a retail store, not a campground! If anything, you should just be happy that you were allowed to loiter outside the store to begin with, as your presence no doubt had an intimidating effect on the store's more legitimate customers. The people in the lines I saw differed from the people I see on streetcorners holding their cardboard signs only by degree.

      "Along with that, no official rules for the line from Target (read this as ass covering) "

      No, read it as "Not their fucking job."

      "After work today is going to be insane!"

      And after Monday? After next week? Next month? Next year? Will the insanity you participated in still have been worth it once the novelty has worn off?

      Here's a question: of all the people who stood in line for a PS3 in the US, how many voted ten days ago?
      • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

        by kniLnamiJ-neB (754894)
        no doubt had an intimidating effect
        Intimidating? I laughed at the campers in our town. We had the heaviest rain we've had in 3 months on Wednesday night... roads were flooded and the Wally's parking lot was a small pond. Hope they *really* enjoy their games...
  • A sad day. (Score:5, Funny)

    by Maajid (922035) on Friday November 17, 2006 @10:40AM (#16884554)
    We gather here today to mourn the tragic death of Common Sense . . .
  • by Nom du Keyboard (633989) on Friday November 17, 2006 @10:56AM (#16884872)
    Clearly a lot of people with more Dollars than Sense.

    (Hint: Most people have more Cents than Dollars. Usually 100X more.)

  • I'll bet (Score:5, Funny)

    by Enry (630) <(enry) (at) (wayga.net)> on Friday November 17, 2006 @11:20AM (#16885298) Journal
    ..the same people standing in line for a week to get a PS3 can't find the time to vote. If you did, good for you.
  • by MaWeiTao (908546) on Friday November 17, 2006 @12:04PM (#16886090)
    Retailers should be held responsible for their disorganization and ineptitude. Any store that required a police presence should be forced to pay for those services and should be fined for causing a public disturbance. That's essentially what they've done.

    They should have either forced these people to go home or they should have kept things organized. When you've got a crowd of people with such misplaced priorities waiting so long it's inevitable there will be problems. If the store manager didn't have enough sense to prepare the responsibility for whatever problems ensue falls squarely on his shoulders. The tax payers certainly shouldn't be forced to pay to restore order at these stores.
  • by 192939495969798999 (58312) <infoNO@SPAMdevinmoore.com> on Friday November 17, 2006 @01:29PM (#16887718) Homepage Journal
    A PS3 costs around $600 for the good one, way more on eBay apparently. So why not just buy a full-on PC? Correct me if I'm wrong, but are there any highly-desired games exclusive to the PS3, that wouldn't be available as PC games? You can get similar controllers, etc. Power-wise, you can certainly have a system that rivals a PS3 for that money, plus it will do real email with a full-size keyboard, and all the other stuff a PC does.

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