Argentina Will Use AI To 'Predict Future Crimes' (theguardian.com) 52
Argentina's security forces have announced plans to use AI to "predict future crimes" in a move experts have warned could threaten citizens' rights. From a report: The country's far-right president Javier Milei this week created the Artificial Intelligence Applied to Security Unit, which the legislation says will use "machine-learning algorithms to analyse historical crime data to predict future crimes." It is also expected to deploy facial recognition software to identify "wanted persons," patrol social media, and analyse real-time security camera footage to detect suspicious activities.
While the ministry of security has said the new unit will help to "detect potential threats, identify movements of criminal groups or anticipate disturbances," the Minority Report-esque resolution has sent alarm bells ringing among human rights organisations. Experts fear that certain groups of society could be overly scrutinised by the technology, and have also raised concerns over who -- and how many security forces -- will be able to access the information.
While the ministry of security has said the new unit will help to "detect potential threats, identify movements of criminal groups or anticipate disturbances," the Minority Report-esque resolution has sent alarm bells ringing among human rights organisations. Experts fear that certain groups of society could be overly scrutinised by the technology, and have also raised concerns over who -- and how many security forces -- will be able to access the information.
This just ends up targeting minorties (Score:3)
You can't solve crime with anything but taking care of people. It's always cheaper to be a good person.
I already wrote the algo for politicians. (Score:1)
If citizen = elected official
then future crime is yes
Re: I already wrote the algo for politicians. (Score:1)
Need 25 year trial run with politicans, judeges, . (Score:2)
Need a 25 year predictive policing run covering politicians, judges, bureaucrats, ... showing the following before being used for the general public policing.
- What is predicted?
- When is it predicted?
- What percent of predicted crimes actually happen?
- What percent of predicted crimes which actually happen result in an arrest?
- What percent of predicted crimes which actually happen result in an arrest, result in a trial?
- What percent of predicted crimes which actually happen, result in an arrest, result i
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And if it were right, why did you vote for them in the first place? Democracy is the guarantee that you get the government you deserve.
Found the toady. (Score:1)
How does it taste licking those boots publicly?
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Re: This just ends up targeting minorties (Score:3)
"Ok. Turn 'er on! Let's see it warn of future crimes!"
"Bzzzbbb...bzzzrt! Warning! Politician will exchange kickback for regulation hampering competition of cronies. Warning!
Politician will vote for massive spending so crony can get a piece of it. Warning! Politician will vote for massive spending so child can get cushy, no-show job out of it. Warning! Poli(click)
"Turn that damned thing off."
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Hint: It's a random label one sticks to persons with a different opinion.
North Korea? Who says? (Score:2)
We know extremely little about what actually happens in that Stalinist work camp, but it's safe to assume that anything the NK government says about its levels of crime is purely for propaganda purposes. Certainly reading the stories of escaped refugees, it seems clear that many are forced to steal to survive.
Re: This just ends up targeting minorties (Score:1)
Fact-checking Communists (Score:2)
Citation needed.
Citation needed.
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Argentina at the moment is leaning towards the far right end of that spectrum with "anarcho-capitalist" (Dr Evil sarcastic air quotes) Javier Milei.
I don't know about Argentina specifically, but in a lot of South American nations it's the indigenous populations (descendants
Argentina will use... (Score:2)
...current AI, which is not fit for purpose, to cause pain for law abiding citizens while having no effect on crime
the far left (Score:1)
"The country's far-right president"
now, if you go to the guardian, and search for "venezuela" you'll see Maduro being called a "Leader" but no other adjectives.
Fucking clowns.
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The Guardian calls Maduro "authoritarian" https://www.theguardian.com/wo... [theguardian.com] It also says Venezuelans hate Maduro https://www.theguardian.com/co... [theguardian.com]
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Those articles are from 2020 and 2019 respectively.
Go look at what they're calling him now.
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Authoritarian? Socialist? Leftist? Kidnapper [cnn.com]? Liar? "It's going to fall. It's going to fall. This regime is going to fall!" [npr.org]?
Considering Maduro has still not released a single count of the votes from any polling location, that's all you need to know.
Re:the far left (Score:4, Informative)
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I'm curious, you're not arguing for or against the proposed AI system. You're not arguing that Milei isn't far-right, you're simply complaining that a newspaper said he was far-right and failed to point out some other random leader in an article you found wasn't far-left ?
So it's basically stamping your feet and saying it's not fair, is that about it ? Fucking christ that's sad.
For what it's worth here's an article from 30 minutes ago https://www.theguardian.com/wo... [theguardian.com]
that calls Maduro 'authoritarian',
Future Crimes (Score:2)
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Political opposition leaders, and critical journalists will certainly be very high in that list of "certain groups"
Minority Report got it wrong. (Score:5, Funny)
They predicted humans would still have jobs in 2054.
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The film or the book? They are very different.
Re: Minority Report got it wrong. (Score:2)
I meant the film. Having precogs be living beings.
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I meant the film. Having precogs be living beings.
They were living beings in the book too - just "slightly" more mutant that the film
Re: Minority Report got it wrong. (Score:2)
Whatever. I haven't read the book. Some people act like the two are different enough they aren't even the same really, seems to be a theme with many sci-fi/fantasy adaptations to film. There's going to be some small audience who isn't satisfied unless the book to essentially used as the script.
Re: Minority Report got it wrong. (Score:2)
Like kroger's self-checkout "suspicious" alerts (Score:2)
When I go to Kroger and use their self-checkout stands, they always flag me as doing something suspicious if I'm wearing a jacket with black sleeves. Wonder why? It literally shows the item being tracked, with a target box, scanned and placed in the bagging area, but it's suspicious for some reason. I just can't wrap my head around what would be so suspicious about black sleeves. Why would black arms be suspicious?
Prediction vs Verification (Score:3)
Others have pointed out the similarities with the plot of Minority Report (either the book or the film, which are quite different).
On the other hand, when it comes to deciding where to send limited policing capacity, AI may help, and probably can help. But when it comes
to actually determining whether or not a crime has been committed, or will be committed, AI has no place.
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On the other hand, when it comes to deciding where to send limited policing capacity, AI may help, and probably can help.
when biased data is input, what could possibly go wrong?
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On the other hand, when it comes to deciding where to send limited policing capacity, AI may help, and probably can help.
Some counties in Florida tried that. All that ended up happening is that they harassed the poorer citizens with minor administrative violations (grass a 1/4 inch too high etc) until the poor were arrested or the poor moved out of the county. That sounds less than ideal... or maybe not so bad after all... depends on your point of view I suppose.
Minority Repoirt (Score:2)
Also, 100% chance this will be used for political purposes.
Seriously? That Stupid (Score:2)
I would like to think they would not be that stupid but clearly I am wrong
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The devil is in the detail (Score:2)
There's a lot of useful information held on crime databases: what is the most common time of crimes, who are the age group most likely to be doing it, what social activities reduce crime, where are stolen vehicles most often dropped off and repeat victimisation. For example, a lot of house burglaries turn out to be kids on the way back from school whereas shed thefts are overnight. What vehicles are being stolen - and which aren't? If a crime hits a target and they get away with it, they're likely to hit th
good luck with that (Score:2)
yeah, Argentina isn't exactly a hotbed of AI research, somebody must have sold Mille a bill of goods. I'm lucky if Gemini or ChatGPT can actually give me a correct answer that they haven't stolen from Reddit.
Canada Is Way Ahead (Score:1)
This is the first time that Iâ(TM)m aware of future crimes outside of Sci-fi. Itâ(TM)s a great time to be Canadian and Iâ(TM)m pissed that Argentina is getting all the glory for something we started working on a while ago.
does not add up (Score:1)
This kinda does not add up with the most libertarian head of state in my memory of recent world history.
sounds like somebody watched Minority Report ... (Score:2)
"far right" (Score:1)
Stonks must go up (Score:2)
Lobbyists are pushing governments around the world to set-up AI data-centers. What will they be used for, no one knows. The only thing we know is that Nvidia will make a fuck ton of money selling over-priced GPUs.